allHogs.com editor Kent Smith and reporter Daniel Shi dive deep into Saturday's upcoming match-up between the Arkansas Razorbacks and Texas A&M Aggies at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.
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00:00 Good morning everybody and welcome to a, shall we say, toasty North Texas.
00:05 I'm Kent Smith and along here with Daniel Sheet, we are both part of the All Hogs dot
00:13 com family.
00:14 A little bit of the Fan Nation and Sports Illustrated family out there.
00:19 We're here in North Texas in Frisco today, this morning, getting ready to tell you all
00:25 about the Arkansas Razorbacks, the Texas A&M Aggies.
00:28 We are right next door to the Dallas Cowboys headquarters known as The Star.
00:32 We were just over there getting ready to film, but the wind here has gotten to be a little
00:36 too much and to be honest, the party music that is going on around here got to be a little
00:41 loud too.
00:42 So we are here inside the hotel.
00:45 There are plenty of Aggies out front.
00:46 I thought I saw a few Razorback fans out there.
00:49 The drinks have apparently been flowing and the midnight noise is quite loud.
00:55 So here we are, getting ready for the big game.
00:58 We have some news that broke, at least that's what Daniel is telling me.
01:03 We had some news that came down earlier today as everyone was doing their travels.
01:07 So Daniel, what's the news, things out there for the Razorback fans that they might want
01:12 to know?
01:13 Well, Rocket Sanders was on the SiriusXM College Football Radio show today and said that he
01:17 was ready to go.
01:19 Sam Pittman's tune has already changed from weeks past.
01:23 He has been very pessimistic in Rocket Sanders' ability to play, but this week we've seen
01:30 a little bit of a change and he's more optimistic that he'll at least have some kind of role
01:35 against Texas A&M.
01:36 Well, I'm going to take one of those "I'll believe it when I see it" approaches.
01:41 I've had players come to me several times, I can remember specifically Gabe Koppel a
01:46 while back when he was with the Rangers.
01:48 They'd come and said he was good to go and he was actually several weeks out and he had
01:53 to go to rehab and things like that.
01:54 So until we see players on the field, until Rocket Sanders is out there, he's taking a
02:00 handoff, just go ahead and assume he's not going to be there.
02:04 It's going to be a Rashad Dabinian kind of day and that's not the worst thing.
02:07 That's not the worst thing at all.
02:08 Dabinian looked great last week.
02:10 If you get Rocket out there, that's a bonus, but man, he has really stepped up lately.
02:14 Right, and of course, AJ Green was kind of the main guy the previous two weeks when Rocket
02:20 Sanders was out and he filled in quite nicely.
02:23 And as long as the offensive line continues to improve for Arkansas as it did against
02:27 LSU, then they should be at least in solid shape with or without Rocket.
02:31 Alright, so that kind of brings me to a question that I've been thinking about and I'd like
02:35 to hear your thoughts on.
02:38 The offensive line, they looked a lot better last week, but are they that improved or is
02:45 that just kind of a one game thing?
02:47 Was it an LSU thing?
02:48 What's going on there?
02:49 Well, they got Devon Manuel back along the offensive line.
02:53 That'll really help them out and kind of just give them an extra body to be able to rotate
02:58 in and out.
02:59 That's something that Sam Pippen's been saying over and over at press conferences, whenever
03:03 myself and other members of the media have brought up problems along the offensive line.
03:08 It's that he's really hoped that Devon Manuel can kind of come in and solve those problems.
03:13 Now they still have a lot of kind of pre-staff penalties in the game against LSU that was
03:19 kind of bailed out by just kind of KJ Jefferson's ability to, you know, when they get behind
03:25 the sticks to kind of get them out of sticky situations.
03:28 They are getting slightly better, but then again it's kind of more of a product of how
03:34 bad they were the first two weeks rather than how good they looked last week.
03:38 But they are on the way up.
03:40 Well, I guess Arkansas Twitter will let us know if they have any more of those problems
03:47 with getting penalties on the snaps and things like that.
03:50 One thing we do have is we have a pretty big siding of Lukasz last week.
04:02 We knew he was going to be a big weapon and he's definitely turned into probably an even
04:07 bigger weapon than a lot of people thought he would.
04:08 I got to see him in Spring Ball and was really impressed with what we saw out of him, his
04:14 ability to adjust in the routes.
04:15 I don't know why I had some concern whether he would bulk up enough to be able to handle
04:19 the blocking duties that come with that.
04:22 But he's created some mismatches.
04:24 You can't really get away with putting a linebacker on him.
04:29 He's a little too big to be honest to put someone deep in the secondary on him.
04:34 So he creates a mismatch problem.
04:37 But one of the things that I mentioned last week was it seemed like he had an invisibility
04:42 cloak on.
04:43 LSU never could seem to find him.
04:45 He kept disappearing.
04:46 He's not disappearing this week.
04:48 That's not happening.
04:50 And for all the pass catchers and all the problems that we've seen adjusting to this
04:55 Danny Nose offense, Luke Haas has been the one guy that you haven't had to worry about
05:00 adjusting to the Danny Nose offense.
05:02 And he's really been needed given the fact that there are really only two other receivers
05:06 that KJ Jefferson can go to.
05:07 Obviously Andrew Armstrong and Isaac Teslop, both of them have turned in solid performances.
05:13 But again, we continue to see Isaiah Cetanian not seeing the field and Tyrone Brodin who
05:19 finally last week starts to see a little bit more of an extended role.
05:25 Well, one person we didn't see last week that I think a lot of people were disappointed
05:29 we didn't see was Cetanian on the offensive side.
05:35 I think a lot of people wanted to see him go up against the LSU defense.
05:40 Let's see if we could turn it into a track meet.
05:44 Also those jet sweeps, a lot of people wanted to see some of those go to him and see what
05:48 he could do with the ball.
05:50 That didn't happen.
05:51 Of course we had heard some of the discussions about he's got to get better at blocking and
05:55 we know how a lot of people reacted to that.
05:58 You really want to attract superstar blocking when his main goal is to blow by people.
06:05 What are the odds that this week we get to see Cetanian in that role?
06:10 I think that it has to be more, he can't play not find an offensive snap at all.
06:16 You didn't recruit probably one of the fastest players in the country to come here and return
06:20 puns for you to be quite frank.
06:23 Honestly this is a time when there are only four games into the season but they really
06:28 need to figure out how to best use the weapons that they do have.
06:33 This is KJ Jefferson's most likely his last year so in order to use all the pieces that
06:39 you have you have to use the pieces in a way that makes sense for this offense.
06:45 Isaiah Cetanian's speed has certainly been something that's not been used properly through
06:49 the first part of the season.
06:52 Which by the way I want to address something here.
06:56 You know as a journalist I try to be as unbiased as possible but I saw a story and I think
07:02 it was on Saturday Down South I can't remember someone was re-ranking the SEC quarterbacks
07:07 based on what happened last week and I forget who it was but he moved Jefferson down after
07:15 his performance against LSU.
07:17 Guess Jefferson had the one interception.
07:20 You can't count that last one.
07:21 If they were figuring the last interception in that play shouldn't even have been called.
07:26 That was one of those where I was going ok let's put Cetanian on the field.
07:30 Let's throw a mid-range pass to him and let's just see if he can break it.
07:34 Because Jefferson obviously wasn't going to hurl one all the way down into the end zone.
07:40 But to mark him down, to downgrade him after that performance, Arkansas is not in that
07:46 game without KJ Jefferson.
07:51 At the end of the game they went the entire second half and nobody punted.
07:55 They had all those scores that took place.
07:59 It was easy for Daniels because Arkansas had gotten tired.
08:02 He had receivers running open.
08:04 So yeah he's throwing to wide open receivers and they're scoring touchdowns.
08:08 Jefferson is overcoming, they were still struggling a little bit in the running game, they did
08:12 kind of get that going a little bit, but he's overcoming penalty after penalty after penalty
08:17 after penalty at the worst times.
08:20 He's overcoming getting just beat to death back there and he still found a way to make
08:25 it happen.
08:26 I almost thought he almost outperformed Daniels just because he had to overcome so much more.
08:34 Daniels didn't have as much to overcome in that game.
08:36 So to see his performance, because that was one of those, we talk about a superman performance,
08:42 he put the team on his back.
08:43 He did.
08:44 And to downgrade him for that performance, that makes no sense to me.
08:48 I don't understand that.
08:51 They jumped Spencer Ragler up above him.
08:53 I don't know.
08:54 KJ's not getting respect.
08:56 I don't know what it's going to take to get respect.
08:59 I guess, well I'll tell you what, he needed people to not get in motion from the half
09:04 yard line so they could score a touchdown and win the game.
09:07 That's what he needed.
09:08 Right, and it's a scary thought where this team would be without KJ Jefferson's legs.
09:12 If you really think, I guess, ultra pessimistically, there is a scenario, a world in where without
09:18 KJ Jefferson's legs, who knows how that Kent State game would have turned out.
09:22 So KJ Jefferson definitely, and LSU I think sort of punctuated that on a national stage,
09:28 that he is kind of definitely not the problem on this team.
09:32 And it's definitely even covering up some of the other deficiencies that they have on
09:36 offense.
09:37 You know, I will say, I don't know, I've watched the game back so many times and I
09:44 can't figure out, yes, the defense did start to get tired.
09:49 I think some of it may have been, you know, you have some great receivers over there on
09:55 LSU and they started figuring out ways to get them matched up on some younger guys who,
09:59 you know, that's, you're not, I heard someone say, you weren't playing SEC receivers, you
10:05 were playing pro receivers.
10:07 And when you take some guys who are, you know, it's their first year back there and they're
10:12 trying to figure stuff out, that's a tough spot to figure it out in.
10:16 It's going to be a tough spot to figure it out this week.
10:19 You know, there's a lot of five stars over there on A&M.
10:23 We've watched recruiting class after recruiting class after recruiting class come through.
10:28 Boy, you wish, you wish Bobby Petrino had stayed at UNLV because those five star receivers
10:36 and running backs and linemen and defensive linemen, all those guys didn't matter because
10:42 Jimbo Fisher, you had Jimbo Fisher over there and as long as Jimbo Fisher was on the sideline
10:48 calling the plays and kind of really, really having his hand in everything, that talent
10:54 wasn't getting realized.
10:55 Bobby Petrino's over there now.
10:58 We saw when they played Southeast Missouri State last year, he can take the least of
11:01 talent and just run right through Arkansas and just about any other team.
11:06 And now he's got five star talent to do it with.
11:08 And suddenly with Petrino there, you're seeing all that elite talent be put to proper use.
11:13 All right, Britton Zimmerman, who's the Aggie reporter over at Houston Chronicle, said that
11:19 this is probably the most talent that Bobby Petrino has had to work with in his entire
11:24 coaching career.
11:25 And another advantage I think Texas A&M has is a guy like Anaya Smith, who's been there
11:30 for so long in an Aggie uniform and has worked with Max Johnson, played in last year's Southwest
11:36 Classic against Arkansas and had a pretty good game.
11:40 That's a certain sense of familiarity that KJ Jefferson doesn't have with any of his
11:45 receivers right now.
11:47 Yeah, that's the one thing.
11:50 Last year it was Max Johnson who ends up technically beating Arkansas.
11:55 We all know why Arkansas lost that game last year.
11:58 You got the freak play that happened, Jefferson diving into the end zone, the ball pops out,
12:05 ends up in Chappell's hands.
12:08 Chappell ends up handing it off to another guy and touchdown.
12:12 And not only was the game over at that point, the season was basically over.
12:17 Pittman talked during SEC media days about how they went in that locker room, they were
12:21 ahead and they felt like they were down like 15 points because of just how much that sucked
12:26 the wind out of everything.
12:27 But it sucked the wind out of the whole season.
12:31 They still had a chance at the end with the field goal kick that if we're in a college
12:36 stadium it counts.
12:39 We're not though.
12:40 You know where you're playing the game and just kind of had one of those little moments,
12:45 those Arkansas-Texas A&M moments that happened and they didn't get the win.
12:49 And honestly, the season was kind of a wrap after that.
12:54 We didn't see that team again until Kansas.
12:57 Probably the oldest game.
12:59 Well yeah, I don't know if that was Arkansas as much as it was Lane Kiffin.
13:07 Lane Kiffin was a game planner.
13:08 Lane Kiffin was shopping for homes in Auburn.
13:10 Okay, let's just be honest.
13:13 So yeah, Kansas was the one time that I remember after that that they really game planned for
13:21 Arkansas and we saw something even after all those guys left.
13:23 But boy it took the wind out of them.
13:27 And that's the thing I was looking at.
13:29 I was looking back and over the past decade, after the A&M game, three times Arkansas has
13:40 won after that.
13:41 And they only won once.
13:43 Meaning they lost to Texas A&M because that's what they do.
13:48 And they won one game after that and then went back to losing.
13:52 They had more years where they lost like seven games in a row.
13:56 I think there were like two or three years where they lost seven games in a row or they
13:59 would lose four in a row.
14:00 It's not necessarily the A&M game, it's what happens in all the games after.
14:05 They just cannot get anything going after that.
14:07 It just kills them.
14:09 And really this game is going to come down to three things.
14:13 They're relatively simple, but you have to be good, you have to be lucky, and you have
14:17 to be smart.
14:18 And Arkansas really didn't do any of those things very well in last year's game.
14:24 Obviously in hindsight KJ probably shouldn't have stretched the ball 100% over the goal
14:30 line, but that's just kind of how those things go.
14:32 No one would have known that he would have handed the ball off if it was a fumble and
14:36 99 yards and those kinds of things.
14:39 But that's kind of the same thing that Sam Pittman is looking for this year.
14:43 This is a team that's struggled with penalties in back-to-back weeks and we'll kind of see
14:48 where they are come game time on that front.
14:51 Yeah, I think that's one thing fans want to see.
14:54 They want to see, hey, can these guys...
14:57 One it's going to help that it's a divided stadium.
15:01 It's not going to be like being at LSU, but still it really hasn't mattered where they
15:06 played.
15:07 They really want to see, can people who line up on the line, whether it be receivers, tight
15:13 ends, linemen, whoever, can they look down the line and see whether the ball is going
15:18 to move?
15:20 Can they do that?
15:21 Regardless of whether guys are jumping back and forth in front of you and all this stuff,
15:24 how hard the counts are and everything, is the ball moving?
15:28 And that's one thing that fans are just banging their heads against the wall about because
15:33 you listed those things.
15:35 You listed those three things and right now, throughout the season, I don't know that Arkansas
15:40 has had any of those three things so far.
15:42 No, that's where we are at 2-2.
15:44 There's also, and one more point I'd add to that is the added emphasis of getting in the
15:48 play call a little bit faster.
15:50 I think that kind of comes with the territory of trying to learn how Danny Nose operates
15:55 and how he calls plays and those kinds of things.
15:57 We saw Arkansas really burn all three of their timeouts before we got into the latter stages
16:03 of the fourth quarter, which really came back and hurt them and limited what they could
16:08 do in their attempts to make a comeback.
16:10 So Sam Pittman has talked about the added emphasis of making sure that the play call
16:15 gets in faster and that KJ understands certain situations where they probably better off
16:21 just taking the delay game instead of burning another timeout.
16:25 Well one thing I'd be curious to see, KJ's been there for three years.
16:29 I know he's new to the Enos offense, I get that.
16:33 He's someone that you trust.
16:36 You get down to ten seconds, what's the harm in just having him call a play and go ahead
16:43 and run in if they don't have the play in within ten seconds?
16:46 Because you're either going to burn a timeout or you're going to lose yards.
16:50 So if he calls a play and at least gets two or three yards out of it, that's better than
16:55 a penalty or burning timeouts.
16:57 So why not give him the shot?
16:59 Why not let him, he's looking at the defense, he's out there with it.
17:04 Give him a chance to, if they can't get the play in in time, let him make the call.
17:08 He's the captain, they trust him, at least the players do, hopefully the coaches do.
17:13 And let's see, that's one way to avoid some of these situations they've gotten into.
17:19 And that's one of, at least the SEC and national narrative around KJ Jefferson, that on top
17:25 of all of his physical talents and physical attributes, that he is somebody that has more
17:31 SEC experience than just about any other quarterback in the conference.
17:34 So why not use that to your advantage?
17:37 I will say one thing that I was impressed with against LSU, and this goes back to, did
17:45 the story a while back during the basketball season where KJ just kind of quietly slipped
17:49 away to California and you saw these videos of him working on his footwork out there.
17:54 Well there were times, quite a bit actually, where the pressure came and a lot of times
18:00 in past years, KJ would have just tucked it and ran and just been like, forget it.
18:05 But he used that footwork, it looked like a carbon copy of him shuffling through the
18:09 sand, shuffled up in the pocket, found a wide open guy, usually Andrew Armstrong, because
18:15 Armstrong went the great route.
18:17 Which by the way, that first interception, I don't know, unless I hear from Pittman otherwise,
18:22 I've watched that back, that looked like that was a bad route, that didn't look like that
18:25 was on Jefferson.
18:26 Because you've got a guy who's running, it looks like he's running a sloppy route and
18:30 he kind of drifts about three yards deeper than he should have if he cuts that route
18:34 hard across, and it looked like that was where Jefferson was throwing it, he hits him in
18:38 the numbers.
18:39 Instead, he drifts, which happens sometimes, and gets picked.
18:45 And that happens, you've got to be crisp on your routes.
18:48 And maybe Pittman says otherwise, and we don't know how the play is designed, but I've watched
18:54 Armstrong run that same route like 20 times, and it's a hard cut, and Jefferson's really
18:59 comfortable hitting him with it, and when you have guys running routes like that, you
19:05 don't get a lot of interceptions.
19:06 For the most part, at this point, KJ has kind of earned the benefit of the doubt that a
19:10 play like that happens.
19:11 When he just throws the ball and the defender is right there to pick it off, KJ usually
19:18 at this point has gotten the benefit of the doubt.
19:22 So defensively, who's going to stand out today?
19:27 I think the line really has to get to Max Johnson.
19:31 Max Johnson is one of those guys, he's probably a little bit more mobile than Conor Wegman,
19:35 at least that's what it looked like in the Auburn game.
19:37 Auburn's offense, or sorry, A&M's offense really struggled in the first half against
19:42 Auburn.
19:43 As soon as Max Johnson comes into the game, he kind of used his mobility and led two touchdown
19:49 drives and really nailed that win home for the Aggies.
19:52 So I think the line with Kevie Rose taking on a bigger role and your normal starters
19:59 kind of really going after, they only sacked Jaden Daniels once, which was a big problem,
20:05 and so they're really going to have to get home, especially with some of the deficiencies
20:08 in the secondary.
20:10 If Arkansas wins today, what happened?
20:16 I think that, first of all, the law of averages in terms of luck kind of evens out, right?
20:22 After many, many years, I think Arkansas fans have been waiting for a long time for something
20:27 in the latter moments of the fourth quarter to go their way.
20:31 I think obviously KJ and Rocket, if he's able to play, will have a big role in driving the
20:38 ball down the field and the secondary to kind of hold their own and at least be able to
20:44 generate a critical stop at some point to kind of give KJ some much-deserved breathing
20:51 space.
20:52 I'm going to say if they end up winning, you're going to be talking about Dwight McLaughlin,
20:59 Nudy.
21:00 I always feel a little awkward saying that one.
21:03 And Hudson Clark.
21:06 I think if they win, you're going to be talking about those two names tomorrow because the
21:10 only way they pull this one out is they've got to have some big stops over there on the
21:15 defensive side and the secondary, they've got to come up with, they've got to force
21:19 a fumble, they've got to come up with an interception or whatever.
21:22 They need somebody to run one back.
21:24 And Jaheim Singletary has to have a much better performance than he did against LSU.
21:29 Those three can hold their own.
21:31 Front seven should do their part.
21:33 Alright, Arkansas loses.
21:37 What happened?
21:39 Probably more of the same old, same old.
21:41 Hopefully it doesn't come down to yet another missed kick.
21:45 But I think it's really going to be the deficiencies along the offensive line.
21:51 This probably, even with having faced LSU, is the deepest front that they've faced up
21:57 until this point.
21:59 This A&M team came in with seven sacks against Auburn.
22:03 Now granted, Auburn's offense wasn't exactly the greatest endorsement of an SEC offense,
22:10 but this is a very deep front with five-star recruits everywhere and an offensive line
22:17 that's struggled.
22:19 I'm going to say penalties are going to be a big deal if they lose.
22:23 And I'm going to say you didn't get the opportunity to really capitalize on what is a superior
22:29 special teams unit.
22:30 That's the one area that every time Arkansas goes into a game, I feel like they have the
22:36 deciding advantage and it's not even close.
22:40 There's games where teams go into games and they say, "Hey, yeah, we're pretty good on
22:44 special teams."
22:46 Arkansas goes into games thinking, "My special teams is about to run you over."
22:51 Meaning they're going to put points on the board somehow, they're going to flip a field
22:54 somehow.
22:55 I know people give Max Fletcher a hard time sometimes, but when he gets a hold of one,
23:02 he gets a hold of one.
23:04 And we all know what Cam Little can do, we've seen what Satania can do.
23:09 There's so many ways they can impact the game in a big way, and that's going to have to
23:12 happen for Arkansas to come away with a win.
23:15 If Arkansas wins, man, it's still top the next couple weeks.
23:20 It's looking more and more like you built some confidence, maybe you could get Alabama.
23:25 Who knows with Ole Miss, I don't know who that team was, they ran out there last week.
23:30 I texted Andy Hodges at one point during that game, I was like, "Is Jackson Dart intentionally
23:36 throwing this game?"
23:37 Because he was playing so bad, so very not like him.
23:42 It made no sense.
23:43 And of course, they were playing Alabama, weird things happening against Alabama, I
23:47 don't know how they...
23:49 They shouldn't have won that game, they should have lost by a lot.
23:53 But those things happen, so maybe some things break Arkansas's way.
23:56 Maybe for once they beat A&M and the streak ends against Alabama and they...
24:02 Ole Miss is really the team that we saw last week.
24:05 Maybe Jackson Dart, maybe by the time they get to Arkansas they're rotating quarterbacks
24:08 around, who knows?
24:10 We'll see.
24:11 But it'll be interesting.
24:14 It's always a unique, crazy game, it's always a good time down in Arlington.
24:22 I know this game, even if the contract weren't up, by going to the new group that we're going
24:31 to have in the SEC, the big advantage of that game was for Arkansas and Texas A&M to be
24:40 able to tell recruits, "Hey, you're going to get a chance, especially here in the Dallas-Fort
24:45 Worth area, your mom's going to get a chance to just drive down the road and watch you
24:48 play."
24:50 But now you've got UT Austin, the Longhorns, you've got OU up in Norman.
24:56 From here, it's a two to three hour drive down to Austin, it's a two hour drive up to
25:03 Norman.
25:04 You don't really have to have this game anymore for that.
25:07 So for that reason it would have gone way back to home and home.
25:10 But as frustrating as it's been to Razorback fans, it's been a lot of fun.
25:15 It's created a lot of drama.
25:17 It's been a unique atmosphere and I know a lot of people are ready to see it go, but
25:22 it has its place in time.
25:24 Sure does.
25:25 How many times, how many players get to say that they get to play in front of an NFL stadium?
25:31 Not all these players end up going pro.
25:34 There really is a lot more capacity and it is really a unique atmosphere that's different
25:39 than what you would get at Reynolds for as good as it is down in Fayetteville.
25:43 And for a lot of these kids, it's a homecoming.
25:44 I don't know if a lot of people realize this, especially if you're a 6A team, that's where
25:50 you play a lot of your playoff games.
25:51 They play neutral sites in Texas, so if you're on a lot of these programs that these teams
25:56 are recruiting from, you're playing a lot of your games there, so it feels like home.
26:00 It's a unique experience for you that you don't get anywhere else.
26:05 And it's a drawing tool.
26:08 But it's understandable.
26:10 I was at that A&M game when they played in Fayetteville.
26:13 It was a really cool atmosphere.
26:16 Looking forward to going down to College Station because if you've been among the A&M fans
26:20 at all, and we sat right in the middle up in 2013, that was my first experience.
26:28 There's some unique people.
26:31 I was really thrown off back then.
26:34 They were in year two of the SEC and they were still chanting about the University of
26:37 Texas.
26:38 They were chanting them all the way back into the league.
26:41 They never gave up on chanting.
26:43 They're playing Arkansas and they're chanting about the Oak Longhorns.
26:45 That just blew my mind and all the weird little things they do.
26:49 They're different.
26:50 Spend some time with them.
26:53 You'll know what we're talking about.
26:56 But it'll be interesting to go down to Kyle Field and watch that thing sway back and forth
27:00 and everything.
27:01 We'll see.
27:02 We'll see how it goes.
27:04 But Arkansas needs to close this out with a couple of wins to get the series back on
27:11 track.
27:12 It used to be a given that Arkansas was going to beat A&M.
27:13 Now it's the other way.
27:15 So let's see.
27:16 We'll find out.
27:17 I guess the rest of you at home, you'll find out here in the next couple of hours or minutes
27:22 or whatever it's going to be for you.
27:24 We'll see you at the end of the game.
27:25 Okay.
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