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00:00 (upbeat music)
00:02 - It's based on a late work by John Le Carre,
00:10 titled "The Pigeon Tunnel."
00:13 And it is maybe, I was going to say
00:17 one of my favorite Le Carre books,
00:20 but maybe it's my favorite Le Carre books.
00:24 I actually love it.
00:27 And it's pure delight to be able to turn it into a movie.
00:32 - Our dad was a huge fan of "Fog of War," yes.
00:35 And I mean, always, you know,
00:38 he was always giving us required watching
00:41 and required reading.
00:42 And I think this was something that he both,
00:47 you know, admired and to a certain extent,
00:50 hoped that one day he would be able to emulate
00:53 in terms of the sort of the intensity of it.
00:55 - Yeah, and I think he was conscious
00:58 of having a great conversation late in life.
01:03 He was conscious of time passing,
01:05 I don't think necessarily of his mortality,
01:07 but of his legacy.
01:09 And I think he both sort of consciously and unconsciously
01:13 really identified Errol as someone
01:16 that he could entrust that conversation
01:19 and that narrative and that life to.
01:21 - He was very, very selective, yes.
01:23 I mean, I think, you know, by and large,
01:28 when he wrote a book, he did an interview.
01:31 But he wrote 30 books,
01:33 so there are quite a few interviews out there.
01:35 - Yeah, I would say he was not reclusive with people, right?
01:41 That he was a very connected person,
01:44 not overly social, but very with people.
01:48 He really loved people and interacting with people.
01:50 - And he loved to entertain, too.
01:52 And I think you see some of that in the film.
01:55 I hope you see some of that in the film.
01:56 - But I think he was selective in his conversations
01:59 within a media sense.
02:01 He wanted to really connect through that process
02:06 with readership in the world in an interesting way.
02:10 - David Cornwell was a documentarian.
02:15 Every single book involved scrupulous research.
02:19 He would go to the places that he was writing about.
02:22 He would meet the people.
02:24 He would become involved in various shapes and forms
02:29 with the people he was writing about.
02:31 It wasn't a kind of hands-off writing exercise.
02:35 It was something very different.
02:41 And if he applied that technique to me, I'm quite flattered.
02:45 It's a lovely thing.
02:46 - I think this is a, it's, for both of them,
02:49 but also for Errol, a very personal, very beautiful journey.
02:54 And I think it's, you know, I'd say a conversation
02:58 about truth and history in really interesting ways.
03:03 And I think that resonates through the film.
03:07 - Part of what he talks about in the film
03:09 is this blurred line between himself and his father,
03:13 which is always there in one form or another.
03:17 And I think that's a very interesting thing
03:20 to see in the film.
03:21 I really like this one moment in the film
03:27 where he talks about George Smiley,
03:29 his principal character, as being the father he never had.
03:34 But Smiley was also an alter ego for Jean Le Carre himself.
03:39 And I think you run into difficulty
03:45 in the way that he's portrayed himself.
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04:14 - I think about him often.
04:15 I like the guy.
04:17 I enjoy talking to him.
04:19 It's one of the great pleasures of my life.
04:22 I'm working on a drama,
04:26 a feature based on a character,
04:29 a mass murderer that I interviewed many, many years ago,
04:34 Ed Gein.
04:37 And I have another movie which we've shot
04:41 and we've been editing about the separations
04:45 on the border by the Trump administration.
04:48 And I think I have several other things too.
04:52 So you're right.
04:54 I'm not able to sort of contain myself.
04:59 (dramatic music)
05:02 [Music]