Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 12th September 2023 - video Dailymotion

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Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 12th September 2023

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00:01:10 I was expecting it to rain.

00:01:11 I mean we had so much trust but what happened?

00:01:15 I mean I couldn't understand.

00:01:17 The condition was not bad for him.

00:01:19 And you could only get two wickets.

00:01:21 And no one had thought about Kuldeep.

00:01:24 No.

00:01:25 This person will get five wickets.

00:01:26 I know why he was doubtful.

00:01:28 Because in 2019 he outed Babar Azam.

00:01:31 After that he went out.

00:01:33 He had injuries.

00:01:35 But then he went for NCA.

00:01:36 He got a 2.0 version of him and he was exceptional.

00:01:39 He was chosen instead of Ashwin.

00:01:41 He was chosen instead of Akshar.

00:01:43 So there was something.

00:01:44 But...

00:01:45 But...

00:01:46 Virat will not go for any event.

00:01:48 But when he will face Pakistan...

00:01:50 And let's create new shots.

00:01:52 Last time there was a match where you saw him hit a six on Haris Rauf.

00:01:56 Now he hit a six on the last ball.

00:01:58 It was amazing.

00:02:00 The world's number one bowling attack.

00:02:02 The opponent team makes a run.

00:02:04 355.

00:02:06 We get the target at 356.

00:02:07 And all this is happening during the rain.

00:02:08 But who asked for this reserve day?

00:02:11 Actually the thing is...

00:02:12 We will talk about this.

00:02:13 There are many other things that we will talk about.

00:02:15 Winning or losing a match doesn't matter.

00:02:17 The intent matters.

00:02:18 The way you go.

00:02:19 Top stories.

00:02:20 In the Asia Cup, India defeated Pakistan with 228 runs.

00:02:32 In the pursuit of 357 runs, Pakistan was able to score only 128 runs.

00:02:37 The injuries saved Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf's wicket.

00:02:40 India is the president of the country.

00:02:46 The Minister of Justice says that the election date is given by the Election Commission.

00:02:50 Whether anyone wants it or not, elections will take place.

00:02:52 No one can stop it.

00:02:53 Even Bilawal said so.

00:02:54 So what happened?

00:03:04 We will talk about the topic we discussed in the intro.

00:03:09 We will talk openly.

00:03:10 We will talk openly.

00:03:11 But first of all, let me tell you that there is another big issue in our country.

00:03:16 That is, when will the elections take place?

00:03:18 No one knows when it will happen.

00:03:20 Although the SMB has been informed.

00:03:22 The constitution says that the elections will be held on the 9th of November.

00:03:26 Remember this.

00:03:27 But no one knows the date.

00:03:29 Now, just two or three days ago, news started coming that the president of the country,

00:03:34 who has fulfilled his own constitutional term,

00:03:36 but of course, the electoral college will not be there yet, he will continue.

00:03:39 So he can announce the date of the election at any time.

00:03:42 Yes.

00:03:43 Now, in this announcement, all the news was there.

00:03:45 Yesterday, the Prime Minister met him too.

00:03:47 So he has also given his opinion.

00:03:50 And he says that it is the right of the Election Commission.

00:03:52 Now, of course, we have talked about this in detail.

00:03:54 We have discussed this in various places.

00:03:59 Article 48 says that the President has the right to give the date of the elections under the Pakistan Mirror.

00:04:06 But then it comes to the point that the Election Act says that the Election Commission can give it.

00:04:13 Now, we have also talked about the fact that the Pakistan Mirror has the right to give the date of the elections.

00:04:18 The answer given by the Election Commission to the President of Pakistan, in which he said that we will give the date,

00:04:24 he said that you can give the date in that case, when there is voting on the unconfidentiality,

00:04:30 and despite that, no result has come out, no one is getting a clear majority,

00:04:34 and it is completely empty, no one is able to become the Prime Minister,

00:04:37 in that case, you can announce this, this is your right, and he is referring to Article 58.

00:04:42 But anyway, let's tell you about the meeting that was held.

00:04:48 It has been said that the Minister of Law has adopted the opinion that the Election Commission has the right to give the date of the elections.

00:04:52 The President was also given a reference to the amendment to the Election Act.

00:04:56 And it is also said that if the President gives the date of the elections, the Election Commission will revoke it.

00:05:02 The Chairman of the People's Party says that whether someone wants it or not, elections will take place,

00:05:07 and no one can stop it, whether it is in Navi Rose or in Soros, the People's Party is ready,

00:05:13 and for 70 years, now you look at this sentence, for 70 years, we have been seeing these faces,

00:05:17 Bilawal has also become tired, he is saying that we have been seeing these faces for 70 years,

00:05:21 now someone else should be given a chance, and this is now written on the wall.

00:05:25 Did he just talk outside of the party?

00:05:27 Now we will have to ask him.

00:05:29 He is saying that it is written on the wall that the next government will be of the People's Party.

00:05:33 So you have seen what is happening.

00:05:37 Now it is obvious that new faces should come, if new faces come, then maybe they will come with fresh ideas.

00:05:43 So I think this was the position of Bilawal Bhutto Zardari.

00:05:46 Is Mr. Bilal calling himself a new face?

00:05:48 Obviously.

00:05:49 He has not become a Prime Minister, he has become a Foreign Minister.

00:05:51 He has become a Foreign Minister and anyway he is new in parliamentary politics.

00:05:55 I mean he is in his 30s, so comparatively, he has become a new face.

00:06:01 So now let's see what happens, new faces should come, those who may not have got a chance before.

00:06:07 So what can we do in this regard, let's see.

00:06:11 Okay, let's talk about India in the last few days.

00:06:13 Obviously, there are still big news and issues going on in this regard.

00:06:17 That G20 meeting, which was hosted for the first time by India, and they made a lot of preparations for it.

00:06:23 The leaders of the G20 countries arrived there, we saw the US President, he also arrived there.

00:06:29 Saudi Arabia also arrived there, Muhammad Bin Salman, the leaders of the UAE also arrived there.

00:06:34 So there they made some arrangements, they made a lot of preparations, they set up a lot.

00:06:40 But where the meeting was being held, if we talk about Delhi, they made it a sub jail for people.

00:06:48 That means people were not allowed to roam freely, at the timings.

00:06:52 They tried to camouflage it, they tried to hide the biggest slum in the world on their poverty.

00:06:59 How? Let's show you.

00:07:01 Okay, it is true that Modi's lie has come out openly, but still the G20 meeting is being held there.

00:07:08 Pakistan also needs to lobby like this so that the international powers listen to us.

00:07:14 Otherwise, where there is economic benefit, there are also sympathies for you.

00:07:19 Because at this time, the trade has supremacy, your economic relations have supremacy over everything else.

00:07:27 Exactly, and the way you trade, the nature of your relations becomes different.

00:07:32 Then when we say, look at what is happening with Muslims in India, look at Muslims in Kashmir,

00:07:39 which is also happening, which is being reported correctly, but we say that the world is silent.

00:07:44 The world is silent because their business interests are there.

00:07:49 Yes, absolutely. You see the size of their trade. Let's talk about the numbers.

00:07:53 Those numbers matter a lot. And it is obvious that we need to work a little more on this.

00:07:58 Okay, what else do we need to work on? That is, sir, all of us, yours, mine, know each other.

00:08:04 I was thinking that I will switch to hockey tomorrow.

00:08:07 Ashfaq, I was thinking yesterday that whose idea it was to keep a reserve day.

00:08:11 PCB had said that a reserve day should be kept.

00:08:14 Why was it kept? Why was it not kept in the first match?

00:08:16 When they made 350, they made 260, it is not a reserve day.

00:08:20 When they made 350, it is a reserve day. Why? Why did they give them a chance?

00:08:24 And a one-day match should be a one-day match. It should not be a Mohit match in two days.

00:08:30 It is supposed to be a one-day match. Now, what all did not happen in this?

00:08:33 Okay, we performed badly. We failed in every department, whether it is fielding, bowling, or batting.

00:08:38 But, the match frustrated us and our mood.

00:08:44 We did not know whether the match would happen or not.

00:08:47 But, there is one thing. Listen to me.

00:08:49 In Delhi Mohalla's cricket, in college cricket, we always had this complaint that the opposing team used to bring big boys.

00:08:59 Now, look at these big boys. How?

00:09:03 Rohit Sharma has many double centuries. Shubman Gill has many double centuries.

00:09:08 The other two players, Ishan Kishan has also many double centuries.

00:09:13 Then, Virat Kohli, KL Rahul, all of them are seasoned players.

00:09:19 Our players are not that seasoned. Still, they went to compete.

00:09:23 But, when you are a big player, you perform in big matches.

00:09:27 So, he did.

00:09:28 What were the big players of your team doing?

00:09:30 This question arises. When you won the first toss, you were still questioning this decision.

00:09:37 Why did you decide to field?

00:09:38 Why did you take this chance? Because we have always performed well.

00:09:41 Why did you throw a loose ball against India?

00:09:45 You should have batted first.

00:09:46 And when there was pressure, you could not perform.

00:09:48 Our bowlers were also swinging.

00:09:51 But, the way we were fielding, we dropped two catches in the beginning.

00:09:54 Shaheen Shah, in which his finger was also injured, that was also a drop chance.

00:09:59 Then, Shubman Gill got a chance in between the first and second slip.

00:10:02 These are the chances that we capitalize on.

00:10:05 Then, Yadav. I am happy that there is another Yadav from India who made India proud.

00:10:13 We have one.

00:10:14 Gulboshan Yadav.

00:10:15 The second one is there. He is performing.

00:10:17 But, Gulboshan Yadav did not make India proud.

00:10:24 He may not be proud. I was just being sarcastic.

00:10:27 But, we will show you how we will show you how we will show you.

00:10:32 Shaheen Shafri.

00:10:35 He came and scored a six. Allah Allah. Khair Salah.

00:10:38 Okay?

00:10:39 Other than that, there was no other batter.

00:10:41 The way Iftikhar sir got out.

00:10:43 These are the ones who hit sixes to Wahab Riaz.

00:10:46 Our batsmen were also injured.

00:10:48 They were not batsmen.

00:10:50 Haris Raufort and Naseem Shah.

00:10:51 They could have added something.

00:10:53 You could have scored 250.

00:10:55 You could have made a match.

00:10:57 Shahid Ashmi is with us.

00:10:58 Shahid sir, I don't feel like it.

00:11:00 I am feeling so sad.

00:11:01 I was waiting for this match.

00:11:03 This match was going to end.

00:11:05 It took two days.

00:11:06 It rained.

00:11:07 We were hoping for rain.

00:11:09 We prayed that it would rain.

00:11:11 But, it did not rain.

00:11:12 After that, what our team did.

00:11:14 Shahid sir, what was this?

00:11:16 Bowling, fielding, batting.

00:11:17 Why was it?

00:11:18 All the departments failed.

00:11:20 It was a very bad day.

00:11:22 And, it was a very bad performance.

00:11:24 Mayush Kund is a small word.

00:11:26 But, what can we say?

00:11:28 Pakistan's game is like this.

00:11:30 Pakistan lost 124 runs in the first match of the Champions Trophy on 4th June 2017.

00:11:38 That was the biggest target.

00:11:40 It was the heaviest defeat.

00:11:42 But, after 14 days, on 18th June 2017, Pakistan lost India by 180 runs and won the Champions Trophy.

00:11:51 So, Shahid sir, there is a big difference in your team.

00:11:55 You have to forget that it was a bad day, a bad dream, a bad performance.

00:11:59 But, of course, the fans are very disappointed.

00:12:02 They are very sad that India lost such a big defeat.

00:12:06 228 runs is a very big margin.

00:12:09 Okay, Shahid sir, I wanted to know one thing.

00:12:11 Let's talk about our batting.

00:12:12 In the beginning, any team and the way Jaspreet Bumrah and Siraj were bowling, it was difficult for any team.

00:12:20 I didn't blame Imam for losing because he got an exceptional ball.

00:12:25 It was an unplayable delivery.

00:12:27 But, after that, the way our other team bowled, I thought that they might start performing after playing all the balls.

00:12:35 But, they couldn't do it.

00:12:36 The way Iftikhar bowled, it was like you hit a six on a half-tracker and it didn't go in.

00:12:42 Then, Shadab played a nothing shot.

00:12:44 The way we lost, take Rizwan for example, Babar also got a good ball.

00:12:50 What happened to us?

00:12:52 They took advantage of the conditions.

00:12:55 The conditions and the pitch demanded that you throw it back of the length.

00:13:01 Don't throw it too far, but throw it back of the length.

00:13:04 You were getting a swing and a seam.

00:13:08 Bumrah bowled very well.

00:13:10 Kuldeep Yadav bowled very well.

00:13:12 It's a big problem for Pakistan.

00:13:14 The left arm, wrist, spinners, which he serves on both sides.

00:13:18 His faster run is very good.

00:13:20 Pakistan is facing a problem with this.

00:13:22 Kuldeep Yadav has already troubled Pakistan and Babar Azam.

00:13:26 But, Pakistan didn't bat well.

00:13:30 The way you said Iftikhar, Fakhar, Rizwan, Babar Azam.

00:13:36 They were playing in a strange style.

00:13:38 In a 50-over match, you got all-out in 32 overs.

00:13:42 You did so badly in your net run rate.

00:13:44 If it rains in the match between Pakistan and Sri Lanka,

00:13:48 Sri Lanka will reach the final with a better net run rate.

00:13:52 So, there was no planning in batting.

00:13:54 You should have seen that if the wickets were falling,

00:13:57 you should have broken the rule of wickets falling.

00:13:59 You should have batted a little longer.

00:14:01 You should have batted at least 50 overs.

00:14:03 You should have reached at least 200 runs, not 120.

00:14:07 So that your net run rate doesn't get so bad as it did in the 185th run.

00:14:11 Shahid sir, I agree that our batting didn't go well.

00:14:15 And, obviously, the rain that kept falling in the last two days,

00:14:19 should we look at that as well?

00:14:21 Because when they were batting, the conditions were not good for them as well.

00:14:24 But, they made so many runs.

00:14:26 They made a mountain of runs.

00:14:28 What will you say about our bowling?

00:14:30 In these conditions, did we make so many runs?

00:14:33 You did very badly in bowling.

00:14:34 Our captain did very badly in captaining.

00:14:36 Because, it often happens that the captain,

00:14:38 by reading the condition wrongly,

00:14:40 or by reading the team management wrongly,

00:14:42 makes a wrong decision on the toss.

00:14:44 But, your bowlers prove that wrong decision right as well.

00:14:48 If they bowl well, they take wickets.

00:14:50 They try to take wickets.

00:14:52 You bowled very badly.

00:14:54 When the second day came,

00:14:56 it felt like Babar Azam is trying to make 50 overs.

00:15:00 Don't make it out.

00:15:02 He didn't take a single slip.

00:15:04 He made 209 runs in 25 overs.

00:15:06 Like Kohli was batting,

00:15:08 he could have been out on the start run.

00:15:10 Naseem Shah didn't try to catch him.

00:15:13 And Babar Azam didn't slip even once in 25 overs.

00:15:18 Until you don't take a slip,

00:15:20 how will you take a wicket?

00:15:22 And, you didn't even get the intention to take a wicket.

00:15:24 So, Pakistan took advantage of the condition wrongly.

00:15:28 And, Shahid sir, one thing is that,

00:15:30 the team unit,

00:15:32 not only has fast bowling,

00:15:34 but your spinners are also good.

00:15:36 In the spin department,

00:15:38 and especially,

00:15:40 how much difference did we get from Haris?

00:15:42 Tell us.

00:15:44 Because, I would like to know about Shadab.

00:15:46 He is a brilliant fielder.

00:15:48 The way he stops the run,

00:15:50 his commitment on the field,

00:15:52 that is something else.

00:15:54 But, in terms of bowling,

00:15:56 and this is also a criticism,

00:15:58 he is a brilliant bowler.

00:16:00 But, in terms of bowling,

00:16:02 and this is also a criticism,

00:16:04 he tries to bowl very fast.

00:16:06 Like in T20,

00:16:08 he is not able to bowl from that pace,

00:16:10 that mindset.

00:16:12 Yes, absolutely.

00:16:14 There are many players,

00:16:16 who are not able to adjust from one format to another.

00:16:18 There are many batsmen,

00:16:20 who play by taking 50 over cricket

00:16:22 as 20 over cricket.

00:16:24 Shadab's style is also the same.

00:16:26 He is not able to take a wicket,

00:16:28 he is bowling very fast.

00:16:30 He holds the ball very tightly.

00:16:32 When a spinner holds the ball very tightly,

00:16:34 if he handles the ball softly,

00:16:36 or holds it with a light hand,

00:16:38 then you will get a little time

00:16:40 to turn the ball.

00:16:42 But, he holds it very tightly,

00:16:44 which means that the game is getting short,

00:16:46 and he is getting hit.

00:16:48 And, he is getting his big hits.

00:16:50 And, when he was getting 31 runs in the first two overs,

00:16:52 and he was getting his big hits.

00:16:54 He was trying to get his 100 over quickly.

00:16:56 He is a good player,

00:16:58 but he is totally out of form in bowling.

00:17:00 Yesterday, when he was totally out of form in bowling,

00:17:02 and he got 71 runs,

00:17:04 then he did the same batting yesterday.

00:17:06 And, he hit very high,

00:17:08 and he got a catch out.

00:17:10 So, he is not able to get out of the 20 over cricket mind frame.

00:17:12 So, he is not able to get out of the 20 over cricket mind frame.

00:17:14 So, he is not able to get out of the 20 over cricket mind frame.

00:17:16 And, Mr. Shahid, if we see his batting side,

00:17:18 he showed a lot of aggression.

00:17:20 The way he started making runs as soon as he came,

00:17:22 even though we had lost two wickets,

00:17:24 at 147,

00:17:26 but the score he scored the next day,

00:17:28 when we talk about ourselves,

00:17:30 we play defensively.

00:17:32 In the first four overs,

00:17:34 we put our batsmen in the set,

00:17:36 even after that, we don't get aggression.

00:17:38 So, what is this strategy?

00:17:40 There is no comparison.

00:17:44 His batting was very good.

00:17:46 The way, Abdul and Rahul,

00:17:48 Rahul and Rahul were playing the match

00:17:50 after March 2022,

00:17:52 they were playing the match on Monday.

00:17:54 Only five minutes before,

00:17:56 they were told that they are playing today's match

00:17:58 because Sharia Syed has been unfit.

00:18:00 A player is told so early,

00:18:02 so late,

00:18:04 that you are playing today's match.

00:18:06 But, despite that,

00:18:08 they gave 100.

00:18:10 And, they gave a very good batting.

00:18:12 And, our batting today was that

00:18:14 we were not able to stop our wickets from falling.

00:18:16 If your wickets are falling,

00:18:18 you play 2-4 over easily,

00:18:20 because Pakistan's team was in a confusion.

00:18:22 They were thinking that

00:18:24 either we should play on DLS method

00:18:26 or we should keep our wickets in our hands.

00:18:28 They were not able to understand anything.

00:18:30 They were in a strange confusion.

00:18:32 If DLS comes,

00:18:34 we should not lose.

00:18:36 But, I have a question.

00:18:38 Please answer it, Shariya Syed.

00:18:40 The bat planning,

00:18:42 Ajay, I am saying, Jai Shaki,

00:18:44 will India's victory cover it?

00:18:46 Is it understood like this?

00:18:48 I didn't understand your question.

00:18:50 Jai Shah,

00:18:52 the bad planning that you have done

00:18:54 for this tournament,

00:18:56 especially for the Pakistan-India match,

00:18:58 now that India has won,

00:19:00 will the bad planning that they have done

00:19:02 cover India's victory?

00:19:04 Of course,

00:19:06 all this will be backlash.

00:19:08 First of all, I would like to say

00:19:10 that we should find that person,

00:19:12 that Pakistan cricket board official

00:19:14 who had given the reserve name.

00:19:16 If it was not a reserve name,

00:19:18 it would not have been humiliating.

00:19:20 But, on a serious note,

00:19:22 it will be very difficult

00:19:24 to comeback Pakistan.

00:19:26 We will have to try a lot

00:19:28 to lift this team.

00:19:30 But, Pakistan's team has been

00:19:32 like this in the past.

00:19:34 Like I said, in the Champions Trophy,

00:19:36 the way Pakistan came back,

00:19:38 we will have to think and

00:19:40 scare the chicks.

00:19:42 We will have to make them forget.

00:19:44 Pakistan has won the match,

00:19:46 India has won the match,

00:19:48 if India wins, it will be a through match.

00:19:50 Pakistan will have to play

00:19:52 their next match on Thursday.

00:19:54 Two important fast bowlers,

00:19:56 Naseem Shah and Harith Rao,

00:19:58 both are unfit.

00:20:00 They may not be able to play the entire tournament.

00:20:02 They may not be able to play the next match.

00:20:04 You have called two fast bowlers

00:20:06 who were not with you.

00:20:08 It will be difficult, but obviously,

00:20:10 it is not impossible.

00:20:12 I am saying that it was a good thing

00:20:14 that they kept it a reserve day.

00:20:16 How long will we hide

00:20:18 from such events?

00:20:20 This is the only chance to be exposed.

00:20:22 But, this will tell us

00:20:24 what are our preparations for the World Cup next month.

00:20:26 What is our unit?

00:20:28 What is our fault

00:20:30 that we have to go through so much trauma

00:20:32 and we don't even know

00:20:34 that we cannot rely on them.

00:20:36 It is like this.

00:20:38 We have always seen Pakistan like this.

00:20:40 We will take a break here.

00:20:42 Welcome back to Yahoo!

00:20:54 ATC Islamabad

00:20:56 has not been able to hear

00:20:58 the request of the Parvez district.

00:21:00 The request was made by

00:21:02 Judge Abul Hasna Dulghanain.

00:21:04 The junior lawyer of the Parvez district

00:21:06 has been presented.

00:21:08 The request was not submitted

00:21:10 to the court today.

00:21:12 The court has been instructed

00:21:14 to submit the request

00:21:16 and the hearing will be held tomorrow.

00:21:18 This was said by the court.

00:21:20 The junior lawyer of Sardar Abdul Razak

00:21:22 has said that the hearing

00:21:24 will be held till 14th September.

00:21:26 The judge has said that

00:21:28 there are other important cases on 14th September.

00:21:30 The date is 15th September.

00:21:32 Let's move ahead.

00:21:36 I was thinking about the

00:21:38 high prices of the tickets.

00:21:40 Especially if you are a buyer

00:21:42 and you want to travel.

00:21:44 You have to see a lot of things.

00:21:46 The place where you will stay

00:21:48 is expensive.

00:21:50 What should people do in such a situation?

00:21:52 But there are people who

00:21:54 like to travel and

00:21:56 they explore all the places.

00:21:58 They think that they should

00:22:00 travel in a different way.

00:22:02 They should do it in an adventure way.

00:22:04 They should travel from different countries.

00:22:06 People think that

00:22:08 it is difficult to travel in a car.

00:22:10 Especially from one country to another.

00:22:12 But there is a family

00:22:14 who has done it.

00:22:16 And this family is

00:22:18 the guest of our show today.

00:22:20 They have traveled from Italy

00:22:22 and from many countries to Lahore.

00:22:24 Kashif, Rashid, Ahliya

00:22:26 and their children

00:22:28 have been traveling

00:22:30 in a car for more than 10 days

00:22:32 and finally they have reached Lahore.

00:22:34 Yes, and it was a great adventure.

00:22:36 Let's talk to them

00:22:38 about their experience

00:22:40 and what difficulties

00:22:42 they faced.

00:22:44 Kashif Rashid and his wife

00:22:46 Alisha Rashid are with us.

00:22:48 Thank you so much for joining us

00:22:50 and a very good morning to you.

00:22:52 Tell us, it was a long journey.

00:22:54 We would like to know

00:22:56 how many members of your family

00:22:58 were with you.

00:23:00 It is a very adventurous journey.

00:23:02 We travel from one city to another

00:23:04 for a few hours.

00:23:06 But to spend more than 10 days in a car

00:23:08 was not a tiring journey?

00:23:10 No, it was not tiring

00:23:16 but it was an adventure.

00:23:18 We are fond of traveling.

00:23:20 That is why we decided

00:23:22 to do this long journey.

00:23:24 So, Kashif, you have been driving

00:23:28 for a long time.

00:23:30 What was your plan?

00:23:32 Where would you stay?

00:23:34 How long would you drive?

00:23:36 How did you start your journey?

00:23:38 We decided

00:23:42 to drive during the day

00:23:44 and in the evening

00:23:46 we would go to a hotel

00:23:48 and stay there.

00:23:50 I had three kids

00:23:52 and my wife was there.

00:23:54 When I got tired, my wife would drive

00:23:56 and I would sleep.

00:23:58 We did this together.

00:24:00 It was a good experience.

00:24:02 Alisha, it is obvious for you

00:24:04 to take your kids with you

00:24:06 and to manage them.

00:24:08 Sometimes, kids get nauseous

00:24:10 and their health is also affected.

00:24:12 Kids cannot sit in one place.

00:24:14 How did you handle this?

00:24:16 Our kids are like this.

00:24:20 They have been traveling since the beginning.

00:24:22 They have enjoyed a lot with us.

00:24:24 Our daughter is not well

00:24:26 but we have kept medicines with her.

00:24:28 It is better if we give her those.

00:24:30 Tell us,

00:24:36 what are the things

00:24:38 that are necessary

00:24:40 to drive a car properly?

00:24:42 If someone is taking inspiration

00:24:44 from you,

00:24:46 what are the things

00:24:48 that are necessary?

00:24:50 First of all,

00:24:52 you should have a car

00:24:54 that you can trust.

00:24:56 You can trust that you can

00:24:58 travel a long distance.

00:25:00 You can also keep some things

00:25:02 like an expired tyre.

00:25:04 It is easy to do such things.

00:25:08 You can also keep medicines for kids.

00:25:12 Yes, you can keep medicines for kids.

00:25:14 If kids are with you,

00:25:16 you can keep some food for them.

00:25:18 Especially, if you are traveling from Europe,

00:25:20 it is not easy to find

00:25:22 halal food during the journey.

00:25:24 You can keep such things

00:25:28 during the journey.

00:25:30 It is not an issue in Turkey

00:25:32 because after Turkey, there is Iran.

00:25:34 Everything is halal there.

00:25:36 How many days did you spend in one country?

00:25:38 How many countries did you see

00:25:40 in these 10 days?

00:25:42 How much time did you spend in one country?

00:25:48 We did not travel for a long time.

00:25:50 We have been staying in Italy

00:25:52 and Slovenia.

00:25:54 We have been to Croatia, Serbia,

00:25:56 Bulgaria, Turkey, Iran

00:25:58 and then we entered

00:26:00 from the side of Taftan.

00:26:02 Our aim was to drive

00:26:04 in the day time

00:26:06 till 5 or 6 pm.

00:26:08 We used to eat and have breakfast.

00:26:10 After 5 or 6 pm,

00:26:12 we used to visit some nice cities

00:26:14 and try to find a nice hotel.

00:26:16 We used to stay there for a night

00:26:18 and then go to the next day.

00:26:20 We had another guest

00:26:22 who was my uncle's nephew.

00:26:24 He told us that when he came to Iran,

00:26:26 he used to give petrol for free

00:26:28 for tourists.

00:26:30 Did you have such an experience?

00:26:32 Not once,

00:26:34 but 2 or 3 times.

00:26:36 The vehicle in which we traveled

00:26:38 had a 100 litre tank.

00:26:40 He filled it for free

00:26:42 in 2 or 3 places.

00:26:44 He has written on some petrol pumps

00:26:46 that for tourists,

00:26:48 diesel is free.

00:26:50 Diesel is very cheap there.

00:26:52 Diesel is very cheap there.

00:26:54 Oh!

00:26:56 He is a very hospitable person.

00:26:58 Did you change the vehicle

00:27:00 to a rental car or is it yours?

00:27:02 You must have an international license.

00:27:04 Is it like this?

00:27:06 No, this is not a rental car.

00:27:08 This is my wife's vehicle.

00:27:10 We have traveled on this vehicle.

00:27:12 We brought it from Italy.

00:27:14 Yes, we brought it from Italy.

00:27:16 It has an Italian license.

00:27:18 We both have international licenses.

00:27:20 What other documents are required

00:27:22 while traveling?

00:27:24 For such a long journey?

00:27:26 If you are bringing a vehicle

00:27:28 from Europe,

00:27:30 then the vehicle has a carnet passage.

00:27:32 You can also call it a passport.

00:27:34 Just like we have a passport,

00:27:36 a vehicle has a passport

00:27:38 from there.

00:27:40 It is called a carnet passage.

00:27:42 When you come to Turkey, Iran

00:27:44 or Pakistan,

00:27:46 you need to have an entry and exit stamp.

00:27:48 It is very important

00:27:50 for anyone who wants to travel internationally.

00:27:52 If you have a European passport,

00:27:54 like we all have,

00:27:56 then we only need an Iran visa.

00:27:58 We got that online.

00:28:00 We don't need a visa.

00:28:02 We needed a Pakistan visa.

00:28:04 We got that online.

00:28:06 How many days will you stay in Pakistan

00:28:08 and will you be returning?

00:28:10 Yes, Inshallah.

00:28:12 We have about

00:28:14 one to half a month left.

00:28:16 Wow!

00:28:18 I think you will be traveling

00:28:20 in a car in Pakistan

00:28:22 because you are used to it.

00:28:24 Yes, absolutely.

00:28:26 We will be traveling in a car.

00:28:28 We will be traveling in a car

00:28:30 in the northern areas next week.

00:28:32 Would you recommend to other people

00:28:34 or would you say that it is a difficult job

00:28:36 to travel in a car?

00:28:38 No, you should do it.

00:28:40 It is not that difficult.

00:28:42 It is easy.

00:28:44 If you want to do it,

00:28:46 you can do it.

00:28:48 If you are fond of travel,

00:28:50 then you can do it easily.

00:28:52 Thank you so much,

00:28:54 Alisha Rashid and Kashif Rashid

00:28:56 were with us.

00:28:58 It was a great journey.

00:29:00 You saw that the car should be comfortable.

00:29:02 The car should be big.

00:29:04 I realized this because

00:29:06 I mentioned about my uncle and nephew

00:29:08 who came from Europe to Pakistan.

00:29:10 In Iran, wherever you go,

00:29:12 you will get free petrol.

00:29:14 They are very hospitable and

00:29:16 you can afford it.

00:29:18 It is not that you take a small car

00:29:20 and there is an issue on the way.

00:29:22 If you plan well,

00:29:24 you can travel in a car in different countries.

00:29:26 It all depends on your planning

00:29:28 and your homework.

00:29:30 And your driving skills.

00:29:32 You should rest at night

00:29:34 and drive during the day.

00:29:36 When we talk about Italy,

00:29:38 what is special about Italy?

00:29:40 Pizza is very tasty.

00:29:42 Pizzas,

00:29:44 pastas.

00:29:46 You can't find pizza

00:29:48 anywhere in the world.

00:29:50 But today,

00:29:52 we are going to tell you about

00:29:54 a pizza which has different colors.

00:29:56 You can find different ingredients

00:29:58 but it is very colorful.

00:30:00 How colorful is it?

00:30:02 This is a city of wrestlers

00:30:04 which is called Gujranwala.

00:30:06 This colorful pizza

00:30:08 is attracting the citizens.

00:30:10 To see this,

00:30:12 we will have to see the report of Ghulam Farid.

00:30:14 Pizzas are made only in Gujranwala.

00:30:16 To eat them,

00:30:18 the citizens' rice is kept here.

00:30:20 For the first time,

00:30:22 I have seen a pizza of different colors in Gujranwala.

00:30:24 My favorite is yellow.

00:30:26 My friends have made

00:30:28 different colors of pizza.

00:30:30 We have come here

00:30:32 to taste different colors.

00:30:34 The citizens say that

00:30:36 not only the colors of pizza are different,

00:30:38 but also the taste of pizza is unique.

00:30:40 My friend came here

00:30:42 and we have made three different colored pizzas.

00:30:44 I have seen in the special offering

00:30:46 that colorful pizzas are also available here.

00:30:48 The shopkeeper says that

00:30:50 the ingredients used in different colored pizzas

00:30:52 are local and very high quality.

00:30:54 Only these are available

00:30:56 in the city.

00:30:58 Everything is made

00:31:00 in a local way.

00:31:02 Everything is fresh.

00:31:04 The citizens

00:31:06 enjoy eating

00:31:08 their favorite colored pizzas.

00:31:10 In the city of Khapo, Gujranwala,

00:31:12 along with local food,

00:31:14 they also clean their hands

00:31:16 on fast food.

00:31:18 With cameraman Chouhaib Akram,

00:31:20 Ghulam Farid, ARY News, Gujranwala.

00:31:22 You know that Gujranwala is famous

00:31:24 for its food,

00:31:26 especially for its khabu.

00:31:28 It is also known for its chire.

00:31:30 Chire are big but

00:31:32 it is very difficult to find meat in them.

00:31:34 But one thing

00:31:36 is that

00:31:38 I thought that

00:31:40 only the colors of pizza were used

00:31:42 and the rest of the taste was made colorful.

00:31:44 The base of pizza

00:31:46 was made colorful.

00:31:48 Are there any adverse effects?

00:31:50 I don't know.

00:31:52 Since pizza has high calories,

00:31:54 we should eat it carefully.

00:31:56 And we should eat it in a large quantity.

00:31:58 If we eat in a large quantity,

00:32:00 we can eat anything.

00:32:02 Break.

00:32:04 Welcome back once again.

00:32:14 In any country,

00:32:16 the social fabric

00:32:18 is considered to be middle class.

00:32:20 It is considered to be very important.

00:32:22 If we say that it is the backbone

00:32:24 of any society,

00:32:26 then it is not wrong.

00:32:28 Because those people

00:32:30 are those who work in offices,

00:32:32 are those who read and write,

00:32:34 are those who are dependent.

00:32:36 There is a class which we call

00:32:38 the poor class.

00:32:40 And every country tries

00:32:42 to bring the poor class up

00:32:44 and include them in the middle class.

00:32:46 To reduce poverty.

00:32:48 To bring the lower middle class.

00:32:50 Yes, programs are brought to reduce poverty.

00:32:52 Long term planning is done.

00:32:54 But what is happening in Pakistan?

00:32:56 People are becoming more poor in Pakistan.

00:32:58 And who is saying this?

00:33:00 In the report of the UN,

00:33:02 it has been revealed that

00:33:04 due to the rapid increase in poverty in Pakistan,

00:33:06 the middle class is shrinking.

00:33:08 And the UN's report,

00:33:10 which is being published by UNDP,

00:33:12 says that the Ashrafiya

00:33:14 is still in force.

00:33:16 It has reached the peak of poverty.

00:33:18 And the middle class

00:33:20 has shrunk by 42%

00:33:22 and has now reached 33%.

00:33:24 And every year,

00:33:26 10% increase in poverty.

00:33:28 Imagine, the rich class

00:33:30 is 20-30% of the population,

00:33:32 while the middle class

00:33:34 and the poor,

00:33:36 only 70-80% of the population

00:33:38 spend on food.

00:33:40 And then we will come down

00:33:42 to the poverty line.

00:33:44 I know that many people

00:33:46 are worried about how to

00:33:48 improve the situation in Pakistan.

00:33:50 So, Mr. Muzambil,

00:33:52 this is another factor,

00:33:54 a report has been revealed

00:33:56 which says that this is something else.

00:33:58 Obviously, you and I know

00:34:00 what is happening with our economy.

00:34:02 What are your numbers?

00:34:04 Is the situation getting worse?

00:34:06 Look,

00:34:08 honestly and honestly,

00:34:10 I will tell you one thing,

00:34:12 the first reason

00:34:14 for poverty

00:34:16 is unemployment.

00:34:18 And the second reason

00:34:20 is inflation.

00:34:22 Unfortunately,

00:34:24 the last year,

00:34:26 our financial year,

00:34:28 and the year of the PDM,

00:34:30 this is the worst year

00:34:32 in the history of Pakistan

00:34:34 in terms of economy.

00:34:36 And in that,

00:34:38 poverty is still

00:34:40 the figure of unemployment

00:34:42 which was 6.2%,

00:34:44 it has increased to 9%.

00:34:46 It is a common guess

00:34:48 that 40 lakh people

00:34:50 were unemployed.

00:34:52 The old ones were in their place.

00:34:54 When 40 lakh people

00:34:56 are unemployed

00:34:58 and 4 to 5 people

00:35:00 are dependent on it,

00:35:02 2 crore people

00:35:04 suddenly lose their jobs.

00:35:06 One is that 2 crore people

00:35:08 are under the line

00:35:10 of poverty.

00:35:12 The second one is

00:35:14 our Hafiz Pasha.

00:35:16 He said that

00:35:18 when there is food inflation

00:35:20 in the country,

00:35:22 if there is food inflation,

00:35:24 I am forgetting the statistics,

00:35:26 he said that

00:35:28 if there is 5%

00:35:30 or 10% food inflation,

00:35:32 then 15 to 20 lakh people

00:35:34 are

00:35:36 under the line of poverty.

00:35:38 He had an idea

00:35:40 that 2 crore people

00:35:42 were under the line of poverty

00:35:44 just because of food inflation.

00:35:46 So, in total,

00:35:48 4 crore people

00:35:50 are under the line of poverty

00:35:52 in the last one year.

00:35:54 The people who were already

00:35:56 under the line of poverty

00:35:58 have come under it.

00:36:00 So, you can guess

00:36:02 that in Pakistan...

00:36:04 You have been a part of the government.

00:36:06 We have never seen

00:36:08 a long-term planning initiative

00:36:10 for a proper poverty eradication

00:36:12 program.

00:36:14 We talk about support,

00:36:16 but how many people

00:36:18 have it benefited so far?

00:36:20 I will tell you one thing.

00:36:22 The lack of poverty

00:36:24 in Pakistan has been

00:36:26 going on for the past 20 years.

00:36:28 From 1999 to 2000,

00:36:30 and

00:36:32 from 2010 to 2021,

00:36:34 the poverty rate

00:36:36 has been decreasing.

00:36:38 It has increased from 48% to 37%.

00:36:40 But in one year,

00:36:42 the effort of 20 years

00:36:44 has been destroyed.

00:36:46 And that's

00:36:48 the only solution.

00:36:50 Poverty eradication programs

00:36:52 and NGOs

00:36:54 and their games

00:36:56 are all about giving people

00:36:58 employment, education,

00:37:00 and self-sufficiency.

00:37:02 The government

00:37:04 and state's dependence

00:37:06 is a killer.

00:37:08 The Beharazir Income Support Program,

00:37:10 or BISP,

00:37:12 started in 2009.

00:37:14 It started

00:37:16 with a budget of

00:37:18 25-30 billion rupees.

00:37:20 Now, this year, it has spent 400 billion rupees.

00:37:22 Despite spending 400 billion rupees,

00:37:24 if the country's unemployment

00:37:26 or poverty rate

00:37:28 is decreasing,

00:37:30 this program

00:37:32 is only

00:37:34 to benefit some people.

00:37:36 There are many other things going on.

00:37:38 Political benefits are being taken,

00:37:40 and economic benefits are being given to people,

00:37:42 and many other things are being taken.

00:37:44 We have to get out of this.

00:37:46 We have to get out of this mindset.

00:37:48 We should

00:37:50 focus on one thing only,

00:37:52 that somehow, we should focus on employment.

00:37:54 Exactly.

00:37:56 Employment should be provided

00:37:58 so that people can earn a living.

00:38:00 They should not be made

00:38:02 to take help.

00:38:04 The real thing is

00:38:06 that instead of buying fish,

00:38:08 it is better to teach people how to catch fish.

00:38:10 Thank you so much, Muzammir Islam,

00:38:12 for being with us.

00:38:14 Thank God, one thing is happening.

00:38:16 The dollar is going down.

00:38:18 The dollar is going down.

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01:05:28 The Minister of Health of Punjab, Dr. Javed Akram is with us.

01:05:32 Dr. Javed, I am sure when you came here,

01:05:34 you must have thought that it will be just three months.

01:05:36 But, obviously, this is going on with you.

01:05:38 You are in this ministry.

01:05:40 These problems, especially the absence of medicines,

01:05:42 these problems, especially the absence of medicines,

01:05:44 we keep talking about the price.

01:05:46 we keep talking about the price.

01:05:48 But, what is the reason for this?

01:05:50 That insulin is not available.

01:05:52 Or, other things are missing from the medical stores

01:05:54 in different parts of Punjab.

01:05:56 Thank you very much.

01:05:58 This is a very serious issue.

01:06:00 This is a very serious issue.

01:06:02 The main reason for this, long term,

01:06:04 is that Pakistan is not self-sufficient

01:06:06 is that Pakistan is not self-sufficient

01:06:08 in making these medicines.

01:06:10 It is such a big country.

01:06:12 It is the fifth largest country in the world.

01:06:14 It is going to be the third largest country.

01:06:16 Unfortunately, we did not have a single biotechnology plant.

01:06:18 Unfortunately, we did not have a single biotechnology plant.

01:06:20 It is very unfortunate that all the governments

01:06:22 It is very unfortunate that all the governments

01:06:24 have been negligent in this regard.

01:06:26 have been negligent in this regard.

01:06:28 And, we are at a loss in total import.

01:06:30 90% of our medicines are imported and repacked.

01:06:32 And, the biotechnology products like insulin,

01:06:34 And, the biotechnology products like insulin,

01:06:36 albumin, these medicines are completely

01:06:38 useless here.

01:06:40 So, obviously, when our currency devalues,

01:06:42 So, obviously, when our currency devalues,

01:06:44 it is available in the black market.

01:06:46 It is available in the black market.

01:06:48 It is available at a higher price there.

01:06:50 So, do you think that this is the only factor

01:06:52 So, do you think that this is the only factor

01:06:54 in this?

01:06:56 The main factor is that

01:06:58 we should have less reliance on imports

01:07:00 and we should be able to export ourselves.

01:07:02 This is a long-term policy.

01:07:04 In the short term,

01:07:06 the government supplies that we committed

01:07:08 the government supplies that we committed

01:07:10 are defaulting.

01:07:12 Because, at that time,

01:07:14 they had committed a year or a year and a half ago.

01:07:16 And, we are blacklisting against it.

01:07:18 And, we are blacklisting against it.

01:07:20 This is about the market.

01:07:22 The problem in the market is that

01:07:24 because the prices of these medicines are regulated,

01:07:26 because the prices of these medicines are regulated,

01:07:28 so, when companies import,

01:07:30 so, when companies import,

01:07:32 they have to buy dollars at a much higher level

01:07:34 they have to buy dollars at a much higher level

01:07:36 and have to import.

01:07:38 So, that is why they are not able to do it.

01:07:40 So, that is why this is not the case of the provincial government.

01:07:42 So, that is why this is not the case of the provincial government.

01:07:44 Basically, the drug regulatory authority of Pakistan,

01:07:46 which is the federal government's agency,

01:07:48 now, they have brought them into hardship cases

01:07:50 now, they have brought them into hardship cases

01:07:52 or whatever they do,

01:07:54 to give them such a price increase

01:07:56 that they can supply.

01:07:58 Because, obviously, this is not a charity organization.

01:08:00 Because, obviously, this is not a charity organization.

01:08:02 This is a profit-making organization.

01:08:04 And, they have to sit with them.

01:08:06 And, they have to sit with them.

01:08:08 We have requested them many times.

01:08:10 We have written letters.

01:08:12 That, we have to sit with them

01:08:14 and whatever medicines we are not able to make,

01:08:16 we have to sit with them and buy life-saving drugs.

01:08:18 Dr. Sir, you know that many pharmaceutical companies

01:08:20 have closed their business in Pakistan.

01:08:22 Then, we saw in terms of profit,

01:08:24 that they had many concerns.

01:08:26 Then, they were talking about the increase in taxation.

01:08:28 They had their reservations

01:08:30 in terms of import of raw materials.

01:08:32 So, do you think that this DRAP

01:08:34 is not working effectively?

01:08:36 In fact, can't it be seen

01:08:38 that how many people are being affected by this?

01:08:40 Look, the problem with DRAP is that

01:08:44 they have fixed

01:08:46 the CPI index,

01:08:48 which is our essential drug list

01:08:50 and non-essential.

01:08:52 They have fixed it.

01:08:54 They can give an increase

01:08:56 of 8% or 12% annually.

01:08:58 But, this thing

01:09:00 has gone way above 8%.

01:09:02 So, for this,

01:09:04 this DRAP will not be there.

01:09:06 Obviously, it will go to the federal cabinet.

01:09:08 And, the cabinet will improve.

01:09:10 Because, to make medicines expensive,

01:09:12 it will be a big political cost.

01:09:14 And, our people are

01:09:16 affected by this.

01:09:18 So, whatever way

01:09:20 the government has to subsidize

01:09:22 or give a price increase

01:09:24 so that the people become break-even,

01:09:26 because we can't make it ourselves.

01:09:28 Our reliance is on import.

01:09:30 So, whatever they have to do,

01:09:32 the federal government

01:09:34 should do it immediately.

01:09:36 They should immediately

01:09:38 implement emergency

01:09:40 measures and

01:09:42 whatever they

01:09:44 think is right,

01:09:46 whether they have to give a price increase

01:09:48 or subsidize it themselves.

01:09:50 Because, our people

01:09:52 are already affected by this.

01:09:54 So, what to do?

01:09:56 These are big problems.

01:09:58 But, the regulatory

01:10:00 body should look into it.

01:10:02 You said that this is not a provincial

01:10:04 but a federal level issue.

01:10:06 So, it should be solved.

01:10:08 Javed was with us.

01:10:10 The problems of the people have increased so much

01:10:12 that the medicines are out of reach.

01:10:14 And, if needed,

01:10:16 they are more expensive.

01:10:18 And, the prices will increase further.

01:10:20 Now, we are going to talk about

01:10:22 the September war.

01:10:24 Basically, we lost in the cricket field.

01:10:26 But, the month of September

01:10:28 proved to be very difficult for India.

01:10:30 And, the way India was challenging

01:10:32 the Pakistani nation and the Pakistani army,

01:10:34 we had a very befitting response to that.

01:10:36 Major Raja Aziz Bhattiai was martyred.

01:10:38 Our songs are for you.

01:10:40 And, because of you,

01:10:42 we are safe.

01:10:44 Otherwise, General Chaudhary's

01:10:46 wishes at that time

01:10:48 that he will do this and that in Lahore gym,

01:10:50 he had a very

01:10:52 befitting response.

01:10:54 And, later, he left his jeep and ran away.

01:10:56 Because of these martyrs,

01:10:58 we are discussing the 1965 war

01:11:00 and we are telling how our heroes

01:11:02 had crushed the enemy.

01:11:04 We are taking a break here.

01:11:06 We will be back after the break.

01:11:08 Welcome back once again.

01:11:16 And, we will share

01:11:18 the news with you.

01:11:20 In the National Crime Agency,

01:11:22 the investigation of the £190 million scandal,

01:11:24 according to the sources,

01:11:26 Naya Barawalpindi

01:11:28 saw the former Minister of Defence,

01:11:30 Faisal Wada Ali Zaidi,

01:11:32 and Farooq Naseem

01:11:34 on 14th September.

01:11:36 And, this minister will be presented

01:11:38 to the joint investigation team.

01:11:40 This has been instructed.

01:11:42 The former minister was also requested to present the record.

01:11:44 Zulkarnain Haider is telling us more.

01:11:46 Yes, tell us about this.

01:11:48 Ok, this £190 million case

01:11:50 is the same Al-Qaeda trust matter.

01:11:52 And, it will be asked

01:11:54 because the former cabinet

01:11:56 had Ali Zaidi,

01:11:58 Faisal Wada, Farooq Naseem,

01:12:00 and Khalid Makhbul Siddi,

01:12:02 who was a part of the MQM.

01:12:04 So, he was asked,

01:12:06 what did you know about the cabinet meeting?

01:12:08 The closed defence.

01:12:10 Yes, the mention of the absence of a part

01:12:12 on the agenda.

01:12:14 Yes, and he was asked to give approval.

01:12:16 So, these were the cases

01:12:18 for which the former minister

01:12:20 knows his record.

01:12:22 Because, we have seen

01:12:24 Faisal Wada talking about it.

01:12:26 And, Ali Zaidi,

01:12:28 who was not present,

01:12:30 will also be asked.

01:12:32 Zulkarnain is with us.

01:12:34 Tell us, Zulkarnain,

01:12:36 did you send him a formal notice?

01:12:38 Yes, the £190 million case,

01:12:42 in which the former

01:12:44 minister

01:12:46 was requested

01:12:48 by the cabinet.

01:12:50 It was requested on 14th September.

01:12:52 In which the former

01:12:54 minister, Faisal Wada,

01:12:56 Khalid Makhbul Siddiqi,

01:12:58 Farooq Naseem,

01:13:00 were also presented.

01:13:02 And, they were again requested.

01:13:04 On 14th September, they were asked

01:13:06 to bring all the records.

01:13:08 The cabinet meeting

01:13:10 in which the decision

01:13:12 was made

01:13:14 regarding £190 million,

01:13:16 what were the decisions,

01:13:18 all the records,

01:13:20 they were asked to bring.

01:13:22 Thank you so much, Zulkarnain.

01:13:24 Thank you.

01:13:26 Before this, we were talking about

01:13:30 the fact that he reached Lahore from Italy.

01:13:32 He was travelling in a car from different countries.

01:13:34 Yes.

01:13:36 But, we must have heard

01:13:38 that the boat is running on water.

01:13:40 The bike also runs on water.

01:13:42 Imagine,

01:13:44 what is possible with technology.

01:13:46 What did I miss?

01:13:48 And, secondly,

01:13:50 as it is said,

01:13:52 the mother of all fish.

01:13:54 And, it is an alteration.

01:13:56 It is also called a solution.

01:13:58 I will not share it here.

01:14:00 The fish is hunted on a bike.

01:14:02 Visualize it.

01:14:04 What is the meaning of this advancement?

01:14:06 How can the fish be hunted on a bike?

01:14:08 And, sir,

01:14:10 if you have the will

01:14:12 and creativity,

01:14:14 what can you do?

01:14:16 If you want to reach for the moon,

01:14:18 shoot for the stars.

01:14:20 I think we should make the bike

01:14:22 a national transport.

01:14:24 We will make it when you learn to ride it.

01:14:26 I can ride it.

01:14:28 But, people should stop watching it.

01:14:30 They should watch the program.

01:14:32 But, they should stop watching the girls.

01:14:34 Thank you for watching the program.

01:14:36 You should watch the boys.

01:14:38 [Music]

Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 12th September 2023

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