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Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 5th September 2023
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00:57:24 How did you find talent and skill and theater, which is right now we have in Pakistan?
00:57:29 The guys at the Arts Council are amazing.
00:57:32 They are professional, ready, well organized, and they can do anything you ask from them.
00:57:39 And they are all very talented. It's amazing.
00:57:42 I was surprised by the level of talent here. It's amazing.
00:57:48 And you have performed in how many countries before performing in Pakistan?
00:57:53 We performed in Egypt, and then we performed nationally throughout the United States.
00:57:58 So this is only our second international performance.
00:58:01 So what is the basic difference that you have seen over there in the United States and in Pakistan or in Egypt?
00:58:08 Well, right now, the biggest difference is the variety of stories that we're seeing.
00:58:17 And it's different cultures coming together.
00:58:22 So we're really seeing stories that I've never seen before.
00:58:27 Basically, we have a connection with our viewers.
00:58:32 Nicolette is telling us that she has performed in America and Egypt.
00:58:36 She will perform at the Arts Council in Pakistan.
00:58:39 And the stories and experience here are totally different.
00:58:45 She was telling us that the people here are very welcoming.
00:58:47 And she feels that what is in their heart is visible on their faces.
00:58:52 So this is an amazing experience.
00:58:54 I'm just trying to explain to the people, so there won't be a language barrier.
00:58:59 So you yourself are also going to perform?
00:59:01 Yes.
00:59:03 So what kind of performance are you going to do?
00:59:05 So the performance is an original play that we created.
00:59:10 And it is about a woman who experiences the loss of a beloved.
00:59:15 And it's told all through physical storytelling.
00:59:18 So the play is called "Through the Waves."
00:59:21 There will be no communication?
00:59:23 There is through the sound.
00:59:25 So you hear the... Basically, the play starts with a phone call that she received.
00:59:31 And then the rest of the storytelling is all through the physicality.
00:59:38 For example, grief is often described as waves.
00:59:42 Like waves of grief.
00:59:44 So we use the imagery of the ocean.
00:59:46 Because I've always heard that grief doesn't just hit you.
00:59:49 It comes in waves.
00:59:51 And when you think that it's over...
00:59:53 I've seen the Grey's Anatomy. You must have seen it.
00:59:55 I heard that grief doesn't just get over.
00:59:59 It comes in waves.
01:00:01 And when you think that it's over, it hits you again.
01:00:04 Exactly.
01:00:07 And we depict it physically.
01:00:08 So you actually hear the ocean.
01:00:10 We move and then there will be another part of the story.
01:00:14 There's memories that show up.
01:00:16 So you follow this woman's story in the moment after she receives the phone call.
01:00:22 It's very touching.
01:00:24 It is indeed.
01:00:26 So, Ahmed, how will you two be collaborating on stage?
01:00:28 Tell us more about it.
01:00:30 Okay. So I will be managing light and sound.
01:00:36 And the girls will be performing.
01:00:38 We have so many sound and light cues.
01:00:43 It's amazing.
01:00:45 The transition between different stages depends on the mood that the light sets.
01:00:51 And the sounds bring her back memories.
01:00:55 So it's a very impactful show.
01:00:59 You could be sitting in the crowd and think to yourself,
01:01:02 "Oh, I can feel her."
01:01:05 "I can sense what she's feeling."
01:01:07 One has to really connect to the sea.
01:01:10 There are so many Pakistanis living in the United States.
01:01:14 Is there any fusion of cultures, of America and Pakistan?
01:01:20 Is there any show we are going to witness?
01:01:23 Not yet, I don't think.
01:01:26 But we're hoping that there can be some future collaborations,
01:01:29 especially with the Arts Council,
01:01:32 where this can happen more and more.
01:01:35 I think there are some Pakistani artists in the United States
01:01:40 who are telling their stories and being in the United States.
01:01:45 But we have not brought that yet here.
01:01:47 So I'm hoping that that could be in the future.
01:01:49 So what would be the duration of your show?
01:01:51 The duration?
01:01:53 It's about a one-hour long show.
01:01:57 And we have two performances of our show.
01:02:01 And the festival goes for one whole month.
01:02:03 One whole month.
01:02:05 I'm just expecting and anticipating that we'll be able to see that show as well.
01:02:08 I would love that.
01:02:10 That would be wonderful.
01:02:12 It would be a wonderful experience to see what you have.
01:02:14 And how do you find the Urdu language and Pakistani food and culture?
01:02:17 Yes, oh my goodness.
01:02:19 Obviously, I've been shopping.
01:02:21 I love the clothing and the food is delicious.
01:02:26 We had biryani yesterday.
01:02:30 It was spicy.
01:02:31 It was spicy but it was good.
01:02:33 It was just at the edge for me.
01:02:35 I'm a little sensitive to spice, but it was very good.
01:02:37 And yes, the culture.
01:02:40 We've learned a few Urdu words.
01:02:43 Thank you.
01:02:45 I hope all the good ones.
01:02:47 The ones you can say here.
01:02:50 Because whenever you go and learn a new language
01:02:53 and you find some naughty people and they often tell you the basic curse words.
01:02:59 So, thank you so much for making me do this on the show.
01:03:03 Definitely, we are very happy with the shows that you will represent.
01:03:09 And people here are very loving.
01:03:13 So, we should share this love.
01:03:16 And it feels good when someone comes and appreciates our culture.
01:03:20 Thank you so much Nikhil.
01:03:22 Thank you so much.
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01:12:45 We got your point.
01:12:47 Raja Mohsin Ijaz.
01:12:48 Thank you for your detailed explanation.
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01:13:41 Thank you so much for joining us Dr. Bakhtawar.
01:13:45 Please tell us when you became deprived of your vision?
01:13:49 And was it completely deprived?
01:13:51 I think that even then you still have a faint vision.
01:13:57 Please tell us about yourself.
01:13:59 Thank you for the introduction.
01:14:02 I had a condition of my eyesight at the age of 19.
01:14:10 I was doing BDS, Bachelors in Dentistry.
01:14:14 It is a progressive condition where your eyesight slowly goes.
01:14:19 At that time I had a condition where I completed my BDS by looking at a written paper.
01:14:26 But after that I have not been able to use text to speech software.
01:14:33 I use such tools which empower us and I can work normally.
01:14:39 But in eyesight, I have a loss of central vision and I can see from the side.
01:14:45 For example, if you are in front of me and the camera is on, I can't see the camera.
01:14:51 But I can see the tables on my side.
01:14:54 So I can't see centrally.
01:14:57 Did it take you time to adjust to this situation?
01:15:00 Yes, it has been 10 years since I have been dealing with this situation.
01:15:07 It took me a lot of time.
01:15:10 Every day is a struggle and you are learning something new every day.
01:15:16 Dr. Bakhtawar, tell us one thing, that laziness is a different thing.
01:15:20 In life, you get influenced by your circumstances.
01:15:24 In that, there is an expertise in such a game that even a common man cannot become an expert.
01:15:29 How did it happen?
01:15:33 I worked in an NGO and I met some people who played this game, Nabina Afrad.
01:15:41 I was impressed that Nabina Afrad is playing this game.
01:15:45 So let me see how it is done.
01:15:48 Secondly, I always wanted to represent an active lifestyle for a visually impaired person.
01:15:56 Because people say that if you lose your vision, you will sit down and reduce your activity.
01:16:04 So to increase my activity, I saw that this is a very good sport.
01:16:10 In which you meet the community, meet the players and show yourself that you can also play.
01:16:18 And introduce yourself to the sports community was a big benefit.
01:16:26 Dr. Bakhtawar, tell us how you took part in the World Games and represented Pakistan.
01:16:31 How do you practice and maintain focus?
01:16:36 How did you participate there?
01:16:41 Let me tell you a little about the game.
01:16:46 The target is at a distance of 30 meters.
01:16:52 How does a blind person do it?
01:16:57 The command hand is attached to a tactile device.
01:17:04 Tactile means what you can feel.
01:17:07 You touch the device with your command hand.
01:17:12 The device tells you the height and direction of the target.
01:17:19 It is at a height and direction at which the target is at a distance of 30 meters.
01:17:24 You touch the device with your command hand.
01:17:28 Then you draw a string.
01:17:32 This is the game.
01:17:37 Thank you so much for being with us.
01:17:39 She explained a very interesting story.
01:17:41 That's all for now.
01:17:43 Allah Hafiz.
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