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00:00 Good night, how are you, Chiquita?
00:02 We're going to try to complete the rules, right?
00:04 We're going to complete it.
00:06 Nice show, greetings to everyone.
00:08 Referee instructions.
00:10 Super flyweight, six rounds.
00:12 We're at the Madison Victoria Plaza in Montevideo.
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00:28 As we are ready here.
00:30 First round.
00:32 Between two fighters that are very familiar with each other.
00:34 Both undefeated.
00:36 They're going to be fighting this one.
00:38 And they came out firing again.
00:40 They are definitely letting those hands go as they say.
00:42 These two know each other very well.
00:44 From their time in the amateurs.
00:46 They fought three times in the amateurs.
00:48 And that explains why there's no feel out process between these two.
00:50 Pineda and Cars came out throwing punches like they know exactly.
00:52 Nice shot, nice right hand over the top.
00:54 And they're going to be fighting this one.
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01:26 And they're going to be fighting this one.
01:28 And they're going to be fighting this one.
01:30 And the thing about boxing when the women fight is that the pace is high intensity.
01:36 Oh, and look at--oh, look at--look at Pinero.
01:38 - And you can see she got a little bit of showmanship.
01:40 - Yeah. - The outfit, a little bit of hot dogging in there as well.
01:44 And again, they know each other. Nice sharp counterpunches.
01:46 Pinero steps out, throws that one-two.
01:48 Good change of range on the part of Pinero.
01:50 You can see the athleticism being shown.
01:52 Quick hands and quick feet of changing range.
01:54 And again, she steps just out of range and counters Carl.
01:57 Though Carl responds a little bit herself.
01:59 Pinero undefeated in three fights.
02:01 Liz Carrs, this is just her second professional fight.
02:03 But as we mentioned, she's one and two against Pinero in the amateur ranks.
02:08 - And Pinero now turning south.
02:10 You can tell Pinero has a more--that was just for a second to look back to right-handed.
02:13 You can tell there's a little bit more talent on the part of Pinero
02:15 with the quick hands and the quick feet and a more athletic style.
02:20 And she knows it too because she'll stay in the pocket
02:22 and let go of those combinations and buttons.
02:24 She's doing right there again.
02:26 - Ooh, that was an action-packed first round.
02:28 As we mentioned, both fighters familiar with each other,
02:31 so there was no feeling on process, as you said.
02:34 And they came to blows there, entertaining first round
02:38 between Thalia Pinero and Liz Carrs,
02:42 as Montevideo going up against Maldonado.
02:47 Some of the best action from the first two minutes.
02:52 And we're seeing--one thing we're seeing from this fight
02:54 that we didn't see too much of in the first fight
02:56 between Carabajal and Cabrera,
02:58 we're seeing a little more head movement.
03:00 We're seeing more feints and defending.
03:03 Good hands up there from Carrs,
03:05 so maybe two--maybe a little more polished fighters in that regard.
03:10 - Yeah, you can tell, you know,
03:12 there's a little bit more polish to both of these,
03:14 but you can also see Pinero in a nice, quick-handed style,
03:18 which you can probably see on the other two as well.
03:21 Always like those slicksers and the athletic fighters.
03:24 - She's quick.
03:26 See if it continues here in the second round.
03:28 Well, let's see if Carrs can make some adjustments.
03:30 You know, as Teddy Atlas always likes to say,
03:32 "Timing beats speed."
03:34 Well, Pinero has the better speed,
03:36 and she's had the better timing there.
03:38 She has that step--that F-step out
03:40 and drops the counters over the top of Carrs,
03:42 so Carrs is gonna have to make some adjustments,
03:44 but she's being beaten both with the speed and the timing.
03:46 - When Teddy Atlas talks, everyone needs to listen.
03:50 Oh, as Pinero has Carrs on the ropes here.
03:53 A flurry of shots.
03:55 Both landing. Both fighters landing.
03:58 - And they're fighting like they don't like each other.
04:00 I mean, Pinero is throwing an insane amount
04:03 of speed combinations at Carrs.
04:07 I think she insulted her or something.
04:09 - Maybe one of them is a PeƱarol supporter,
04:14 the other one's Nacional.
04:16 - Yeah, you know what? Those kind of rivalries get a little physical.
04:18 - Oh, yeah, for sure.
04:21 - And you can see the seat once again in the soccer tournament
04:23 out there for everybody.
04:25 Now, Pinero coming into this fight
04:29 has not lost a round yet in her pro career.
04:31 All three fights have been unanimous decision victories.
04:34 - Yeah, and you can see how.
04:35 You know, you can see the fact that, you know,
04:37 she's got that speed, and it's almost--
04:39 it starts to intimidate the other opponent.
04:40 You see, like, Carrs now, you know,
04:42 Pinero's trying to take a cheap break here.
04:43 She's using it to showboat,
04:45 but in reality, what she's doing is taking a walk,
04:47 trying to catch her breath, so she can come back
04:49 and throw these combinations, these kind of volleys and salvos.
04:51 So it's up to Carrs to attack
04:53 when Pinero's looking to take that break,
04:55 because when you throw these combinations
04:57 like Pinero throws them, it's like a sprint,
04:58 so you've got to catch your breath after,
05:00 at least at a certain point.
05:01 So when Pinero starts to step back
05:03 and do those showboats, it's actually--
05:05 she's buying herself time. - Uh-huh, okay.
05:07 - But Carrs--it's up to Carrs to realize that.
05:09 You fought this girl three times in the amateurs.
05:11 This is your fourth time fighting.
05:12 Listen, man, I mean, I--
05:14 something's got to be logical at a certain point.
05:16 You're outgunned for speed, but what I'm saying is
05:18 that when you're outgunned for speed,
05:20 the speed ends up becoming an intimidator
05:22 for the opponent, and so they are--
05:24 instead of attacking, they start to say,
05:26 "Okay, I've got to break right now from all that speed.
05:28 "You know, I'm not gonna engage."
05:30 - Right. - And that's gonna
05:31 definitively get you lost.
05:33 - That was an action-packed second round
05:36 between these two fighters, and don't forget,
05:39 the next fight that we have for you here on ProBoxTV,
05:42 Wednesday night fights from Kissimmee Center,
05:45 the event center in Kissimmee, Florida,
05:47 is the main event featuring Orlando Gonzalez--
05:50 "Capo" Gonzalez against Ramiro Cesena,
05:53 or it's in Italian, "Cesena."
05:55 - "Cesena" in Italian is off that.
05:57 No, it's soccer as a reference.
05:58 - There you go, "Cesena."
05:59 - "Cesena" is a city-- Be a city, city.
06:01 - That's right. - I think may--
06:02 might be a city, city now. - Yeah.
06:03 - But yeah. - That should be
06:04 a great one there.
06:05 By the way, the card begins--
06:06 the broadcast begins 7 p.m. Eastern,
06:08 5 p.m. Ciudad de Mexico time,
06:10 and 4 p.m. Pacific on ProBoxTV.com,
06:14 your boxing channels.
06:16 We take a look at some of the best action
06:18 from that second round between Pinedo and Kars.
06:21 And you can see that Pinedo, as you mentioned,
06:24 when she takes that-- that showboat, that rest,
06:27 she just explodes forward,
06:28 and she's been landing some good shots
06:30 pretty consistently on this Kars.
06:33 Third round underway here at the Radisson Victoria Plaza
06:37 in Montevideo, the capital city of Uruguay.
06:42 And it's Thalia Pinedo in the white top with the pink trunks
06:46 with the ribbons, I guess, the ribbons on the side.
06:48 - Yeah. - And Liz Kars in the all black.
06:51 - High-energy style, and Kars is just--
06:54 just--she is very, very confused here.
06:56 And again, Pinedo letting the shots go.
07:00 Not--not everything's landing clean,
07:01 but she's overwhelming Kars with that activity.
07:04 Good little drop shot to the body as well.
07:06 Little hook there as well.
07:07 She's not--good to see her not ignoring the body
07:10 when it--oh, it's open.
07:11 Here's again that--that showboat
07:12 with the hands down a little bit.
07:13 You see Kars took advantage there.
07:14 She threw a couple of shots, and she was able to land them.
07:16 And you see now Pinedo's trying to rest up
07:18 before throwing--coming back with some salvos again.
07:21 Again, going to the body.
07:22 So Pinedo starting to not ignore the body more and more.
07:26 There's another long, big salvo on the part of Pinedo.
07:29 - No, no, no, no, no.
07:30 [speaking Spanish]
07:32 - By the way, shout-out to our producer,
07:33 Chris Gleiber, for telling us those are tassels.
07:37 - Okay. - On the side.
07:39 - I didn't know that.
07:41 - I used to wear tassels. - Used to wear?
07:43 - Those are too big for tassels.
07:45 I don't know.
07:47 Those are bows, Chris.
07:50 [speaking Spanish]
07:52 - Tania Pinedo being very aggressive, but--
07:56 I think probably--you see when those hands go down,
07:58 I agree with--that's when Kars needs to--
08:00 is she afraid--is there--
08:01 there's a little bit of hesitancy because of the power?
08:03 - Yeah, because she knows that there's so much speed
08:04 on the part of Pinedo that I think, you know,
08:06 when she gets a break from all that speed,
08:07 I think it's almost like she's being--
08:09 she's satisfied to have a break from it
08:11 and not realizing that that's actually the time
08:13 to go to the danger and attack it,
08:14 because that's when the danger is actually most vulnerable.
08:17 [crowd shouting]
08:19 - Leading that-- - Noticing that tie
08:21 and then the hair of Pinedo, too.
08:22 She matches up very nicely. - Yeah.
08:24 - She's a flash-- she's a flash fighter.
08:26 She's even matching that bow, that tie,
08:28 and her hair with the outfit as well.
08:30 I just noticed that.
08:31 - Like John Witherspoon said in "Boomerang,"
08:33 you got to coordinate. - Yeah, coordinate.
08:35 - Absolutely. - [laughs]
08:37 There's the upcoming events in 2023.
08:39 There's the Wednesday night fights
08:40 in Kissimmee, two fights, live fights
08:44 in August on the 9th and the 23rd,
08:46 and then in September, Wednesday, September 6th.
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09:36 Round number 4 of this encounter
09:39 scheduled for 6,
09:41 Super Flyweight division at 115.
09:44 - [speaking Spanish]
09:45 - Talia Pinero of Montevideo
09:47 in the white top with the pink ribbons, tassels,
09:51 going up against Liz Kars in her second professional fight
09:55 in the all-black.
09:58 Last fight for both of these fighters back in April.
10:00 Pinero winning a four-round unanimous decision
10:03 over Glenda Violeta Higuera in this very building.
10:07 And Liz Kars won her opening--
10:11 her debut fight against Gabriela Paez.
10:16 - See, in the first fight, you could see Cabrera
10:18 and Carabajal.
10:20 They weren't really--
10:21 there wasn't really a big difference in their skill set.
10:23 It was just a more--the big difference
10:24 was really in the will to win.
10:26 You saw Cabrera putting more effort
10:27 into that decision there.
10:29 In this fight, there is both a more willingness
10:32 to win from Pinero,
10:33 'cause she's actually looking to dictate the pace
10:36 and dictate the action,
10:37 but she also, unlike Cabrera in the Carabajal fight,
10:40 also is the more talented fighter.
10:41 You can tell she's got more talent.
10:43 She's got more athleticism.
10:44 She throws more punches.
10:45 She's--she's--you know, she--
10:47 she is dominant in this fight on different levels.
10:52 See, this is a fighter that, you know,
10:53 you could see if she could develop,
10:55 could go into a higher echelon of--
10:58 a higher echelon of female boxing.
11:01 - And that kind of leads me to my next point
11:04 with Pinero especially,
11:05 and let's see if Liz Carr comes back in this fight,
11:07 but what do you see in terms of the future
11:10 for both fighters, but specifically Pinero,
11:12 because it appears that she's been the better fighter.
11:14 - Yeah, very athletic, very fast,
11:16 a willingness to boss the fight,
11:18 and also has an eye for a little bit of pizzazz as well.
11:22 - Ooh. - You know, she's--
11:24 she's a show--she's a show--
11:26 I don't know, a showman.
11:27 I don't want to call her a showgirl.
11:28 - She puts on a show.
11:29 - But nonetheless, she puts on a show,
11:31 and she understands, you know,
11:32 if you could see from her outfit, her showboating,
11:35 she's--she clearly understands
11:37 the confidence level she has,
11:39 and she wears it on her sleeve, so to speak.
11:42 - By my estimation,
11:44 I have Pinero winning the first four rounds so far.
11:49 - Yeah, I would say the same.
11:50 - Wednesday, July 26th, Wednesday Night Fights
11:54 at Kissimmee Civic Center
11:55 just east of Plant City.
11:57 Gonzalez versus Chisinau in a big fight
12:00 at the Super featherweight ten-round decision--
12:03 ten-round schedule for that fight.
12:05 - Yeah, good. Good fighters and great fights.
12:08 Action fights for your boxing channel.
12:11 - Yeah, fight take the-- - I'll be honest with you.
12:13 - Uh-huh? - I'll be honest with you, Gene.
12:15 In this fight, I think Stevie Wonder
12:16 would have Pinero winning as well.
12:18 I think that's a--I think it's a--
12:20 I think it's difficult to score.
12:22 - Yeah. - Box!
12:24 - Did you hear--oh, we are about--
12:26 this is round number five.
12:27 Did you hear what Shaq said about Stevie Wonder
12:29 one time? - What did he say?
12:30 Oh, that's--he said, "What's up, Shaq?"
12:32 - Yeah. - Yeah, he's like,
12:33 "You know, I saw that."
12:34 - Yeah. - "Maybe Stevie can teach me
12:35 a little bit." - Yeah. [laughs]
12:36 - Maybe he was the shadow, and he knew the guy
12:38 that big had a big shadow. - Yeah. Yeah.
12:40 Or maybe Shaq has a very distinct smell,
12:42 but we won't go there. - Yeah.
12:44 - We'll leave that one alone.
12:46 Round number five by Kissimmee.
12:48 And then--ooh!
12:49 In the greater Orlando area.
12:50 - This is called the Southpaw stance now.
12:53 - Yeah, and Kissimmee is going--
12:55 finishing the combination with a nice right hook
12:58 is Tavia Pinedo.
13:01 - Pinedo also--I have to say that--
13:03 well, both fighters are in good shape,
13:05 but Pinedo seems to be--
13:08 getting stronger as the fight progresses.
13:10 - Yeah, yeah. - You do see her
13:11 slowing down that much. - Don't get me wrong.
13:12 Cars is also in shape. - Right.
13:13 - They can get beat up like this and still be there.
13:15 You gotta be in shape as well.
13:18 - Good timing. Oh, another--
13:21 - Oh, and that's a good one for the top
13:23 of the high guard. - Ooh.
13:25 - She comes underneath with the uppercut as well.
13:27 Shorter punches.
13:28 Her fundamentals are a little bit better.
13:30 She's more athletic, faster hands.
13:32 And again, you see how she uses her defense--
13:35 her athleticism for her defense as well.
13:37 - How much does timing and volume help
13:40 a fighter getting--moving up the ranks?
13:42 - Of course.
13:43 You can't move up the ranks without it.
13:45 - Right. - Especially the ability to time.
13:47 Volume helps you,
13:48 but the ability to have an instinct for timing
13:50 and understanding that is very, very important.
13:52 You gotta have that as one of the tools
13:55 in your kit, so to speak.
13:58 Nice move, and H-up in the southpaw stance again by Pinedo.
14:02 She's got this little right hook showing up here
14:04 in this round.
14:05 Very nice in the southpaw stance.
14:06 Ooh, onto the body very, very well.
14:10 - How much does that hurt the body shots
14:12 later in the fight when--
14:13 in the beginning-- - They slow you down.
14:14 They slow you down.
14:15 Not all of them will hurt you right on the spot,
14:18 but you'll start to feel that discomfort, you know,
14:19 especially if you stay there and take it
14:21 like--like Cars is doing, you know?
14:23 - Ah!
14:24 [cheers and applause]
14:25 - All right.
14:26 Good fifth round here by Thalia Pinedo.
14:30 [cheers and applause]
14:31 Couple of great exchanges between both fighters,
14:34 and we talk about going up the ranks and moving up.
14:36 One thing about Samson Lekovitz and his promotions,
14:40 he knows how to get fighters up there
14:42 and have them move up and enhance their profile
14:46 in the world of boxing.
14:47 And don't forget, August 9th,
14:49 Hector Heranosian versus Roger Gutierrez
14:51 in a WBA world super featherweight title eliminator.
14:55 This one is in Plan City at the Pro Box Event Center.
14:58 You definitely don't want to miss that
14:59 on the 9th of August.
15:01 That is the main event.
15:04 Some of the best action from the fifth round,
15:07 including a great variety of--of punches from the body.
15:11 There's Pinedo landing an uppercut as well
15:14 in that fifth round.
15:16 Overhand right, right hook.
15:19 You see the diversity and mixing it up very well.
15:23 This is the final round of this fight.
15:28 It meant twice in the amateurs.
15:29 Pinedo winning two of the three in the amateur ranks,
15:32 and now in their professional fight.
15:38 A flurry of punches,
15:39 a strong start to this final round there by Thalia Pinedo.
15:43 - Yeah, she hasn't let up off the gas really.
15:45 She's been dominant every single round,
15:47 putting together nice sets of combinations,
15:51 punches and bunches, with speed, with accuracy,
15:54 keeping her punches short.
15:56 And honestly, she's shown a little bit of this
15:57 southpaw work in the last couple rounds.
15:59 She has switched on and off the whole fight,
16:00 but really she's actually done some work
16:02 in the southpaw stance,
16:03 a lot more work in the southpaw stance
16:05 in the last couple rounds,
16:06 especially at close--at close range.
16:11 - Let's see. Ooh, that's a--
16:13 not bad left hand on the ropes there,
16:16 coming off the ropes there by Pinedo.
16:18 - Yeah, and Carr is trying.
16:19 Carr is trying to give that effort.
16:21 Carr is trying to, you know,
16:22 bring that fight forward to Pinedo,
16:25 trying to at least fight for her pride
16:26 and say, "You know what?
16:27 "You may win this fight tonight,
16:28 "but I'm gonna at least let you know
16:29 "you were in a fight,
16:30 "try to make you uncomfortable,
16:31 "because you might be slowing down a little bit."
16:33 This is the first time in the fight
16:34 where you see a concerted effort by Carr
16:36 to consistently come forward and bring that pressure.
16:38 I think she should have been bringing
16:39 this kind of pressure earlier in the fight.
16:41 I guess Pinedo might be slowing down a little bit,
16:43 so it's easier to bring this pressure,
16:44 but you can't--you know,
16:45 you can't just throw five rounds away
16:47 and then say, "Okay, I'm gonna try to close strong."
16:49 It's nice to see,
16:50 but you would have liked to see this
16:51 a little bit earlier on the part of Carr.
16:53 - All right, there goes a little bit of that showboating
16:55 with the head movement there by Pinedo.
16:57 - Yeah, she's trying to waste some time,
16:58 and then, you know,
16:59 obviously she's confident she's ahead,
17:00 but also she's trying to catch her breath back.
17:02 She's wanting to be forced into these exchanges
17:04 while she's trying to take breaks.
17:05 Although now, again, she sees she's the more accurate puncher.
17:08 When she lets her hands go,
17:09 she's shorter, she's quicker.
17:11 She's got the better shot selection in general.
17:14 - The way Pinedo has come out
17:15 with her power and her movement
17:17 and a little bit of that showboating,
17:19 you get the sense that she might be a fighter to watch,
17:21 and she might be the next fighter,
17:23 next couple of fights might be very interesting
17:25 and could draw a good crowd,
17:26 'cause she has that entertainment flair.
17:28 - Yeah, there's been some good fighters
17:29 in and around this weight class.
17:30 You know, you got Patty Juarez,
17:33 and, you know, we've had Cenisa Estrada,
17:35 Marlon Esparza,
17:36 they've been in and around these weight classes.
17:38 So, you know, the female boxer
17:39 produces some good talent at these weight classes.
17:41 - By the way, in terms of the belts,
17:44 five different fighters hold a piece
17:47 of the Superflyweight world title.
17:49 So, there is room for someone to come in
17:52 and a little bit of room.
17:54 - Well, the WBA makes two belts.
17:56 One of those WBA belts doesn't really count.
17:58 - Oh, okay.
17:59 - So, there's still four major world titles.
18:02 - If we take a look at the best action,
18:04 this one is gonna go the distance.
18:05 We're gonna head to the judges' scorecard.
18:07 See, George, judge,
18:08 I don't know why I got that confused.
18:10 To the judges' scorecard to see who wins this fight,
18:13 but probably I think it's safe to say
18:15 that Talia Pineda is probably gonna win this fight.
18:18 - Yeah, yeah, she's had a very impressive performance tonight.
18:20 Really a nice job done by Talia Pineda tonight.
18:26 She's gonna be one to watch in the future.
18:28 She keeps on going.
18:29 - Oh, by the way, her nickname,
18:32 "La Chuki."
18:33 - La Chuki?
18:34 - La Chuki, like the doll from "Child's Play."
18:37 - Oh, "La Chucky Chucky."
18:39 - La Chucky, yeah.
18:40 - Yeah, she wants to be--
18:42 she wants to be your horror movie.
18:44 - Yeah, yeah.
18:45 Well, that's interesting, right?
18:46 The first fight, "The Nightmare,"
18:48 "La Pesadilla Cabrera,"
18:49 that's her nickname, she won.
18:50 And now "Chuki" or "Chucky."
18:52 - Horror movie that causes nightmares, right?
18:54 - Yeah, yep.
18:56 Although "The Exorcist" is still the movie
18:58 that freaks me out the most.
18:59 - I used to get scared.
19:00 There was a movie that scared me when I was a kid.
19:02 It was called "Phantasm."
19:04 - Oh, yes.
19:05 - That was--that was a big--
19:06 - Yeah.
19:07 - And "Poltergeist."
19:08 - Oh, yeah, "Poltergeist."
19:09 - "Poltergeist" is more known.
19:10 "Phantasm," not as many people know it.
19:11 It absolutely--
19:12 I couldn't sleep.
19:13 - Yeah, I feel you on that one.
19:15 "Exorcist," "Phantasm."
19:17 Two great horror movies.
19:18 And we bring it up because of the nickname of
19:22 Tania PiƱeiro "Chucky."
19:24 As we are just awaiting an official decision.
19:29 And by the way, coming up next
19:31 should be a very good fight
19:34 in the welterweight division
19:35 between Joel Cano and Walter Cordoba.
19:38 Here is Ruben Peralta with the official decision.
19:41 - [speaking Spanish]
19:45 [speaking Spanish]
19:48 - So no surprise.
20:13 [cheers and applause]
20:15 That Tania PiƱeiro wins the fight.
20:19 She now goes to 4-0.
20:21 - Comfortable.
20:22 - Comfortable fight against a familiar opponent.
20:25 First loss in Liz Carr's very, very early young career.
20:29 She goes to one win and one loss.
20:33 Tania PiƱeiro is now undefeated,
20:37 and it'll be interesting to see what--
20:39 or who she will fight next in her career,
20:42 and it's the gentleman there in the tan jacket,
20:45 master promoter.
20:47 He will set up for Tania PiƱeiro.
20:51 [cheers and applause]
20:52 And she has let yet