Presentation of the book The Beloved of my Beloved in Fiuggi
This is the video of the launch of the book The Beloved of my Beloved, by Ian Watson and Roberto Quaglia, during the SF Convention Eurocon / Italcon / Deepcon which was held in Fiuggi, Italy, in March 2009.
It is a politically uncorrect book, erotic and anti-erotic, surreal and funny, and this presentation makes it quite clear.
Several people from the audience partecipate to the discussion, including SF author Bruce Sterling.
It is a politically uncorrect book, erotic and anti-erotic, surreal and funny, and this presentation makes it quite clear.
Several people from the audience partecipate to the discussion, including SF author Bruce Sterling.
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00:10Welcome to the launch of the most important
00:14book in history of European literature
00:20but first... in Italian (però prima in italiano)
00:24because we are in Italy (perché siamo in Italia)
00:26welcome to the launch (Benvenuti al "lanciamiento")
00:32of a rich book in the history (di un libro ricco nella storia)
00:36of literature (della letteratura)
00:39written by two authors (scritto da due scrittori)
00:43of different mother language (di lingua madre differente)
00:48Roberto Quaglia... and me! (ed io!)
00:53Ian Watson!
00:58Roberto, do you remember (ti ricordi)
01:01when we conceived (quando concepimmo)
01:04the first short story (il primo racconto)
01:08of our book (del nostro libro)
01:10in Hungary (in Ungheria)
01:12in an empty and mysterious hotel (in un hotel vuoto e misterioso)
01:17when Darth Vader (quando Darth Vader)
01:19was late (fu in ritardo)
01:21for breakfast (per la prima colazione)
01:24and therefore we talked (e dunque parlammo)
01:26about virtual necrophilia (di necrofilia virtuale)
01:31could you traduce? (puoi tradurre?)
01:34into English? (in inglese?)
01:36All this happened as Ian Watson
01:40did not know any Italian word
01:43except a few
01:46.which language do you want (che lingua volete?)
01:48is there someone who doesn't understand Italian?
01:50(c'è qualcuno che non capisce l'italiano?)
01:52we should make a kind of Esperanto
01:54so that most people will not understand
01:57what we talk about
01:59I do not speak Italian
02:01Non posso parlare italiano
02:04but I pretend to speak Italian (faccio finta di parlare italiano)
02:08I also pretend, but since much more time
02:11(faccio finta, ma da molto più tempo)
02:13"Comunque è vero, abbiamo concepito questo libro..."
02:16IN ENGLISH! (in inglese!)
02:19for the strangers here (per gli stranieri qui)
02:24we have conceived this book in an empty hotel
02:27at the border between Czeck Republic and Hungary
02:30we were in Hungary
02:31the whole hotel was completely empty
02:34except us two and... Darth Vader
02:38of course it was not the real Darth Vader
02:41but it was indeed the real Darth Vader in the sense of
02:44the actor who was behind the mask
02:46and who nobody saw with his real face
02:50except us
02:51it was a terrible experience!
02:57ehm... yes...
03:00...and it was happening every morning
03:01because we were guests of the Hungarians at the Convention
03:05in Salgotarjan
03:07which is the ugliest town of Hungary...
03:10NO!
03:11...the SECOND ugliest town of Hungary
03:13only the second?
03:14yes, yes, there is a more ugly town in Hungary
03:17why did they not do the convention there?
03:19they were frightened we would not stop at the red traffic lights
03:23when we went through it
03:25we were always going back to the hotel drunken
03:28I was driving and they were stopping us
03:30and we were afraid they would test our alcohol
03:34this is because to honour us
03:37they did not put us in Salgotarjan
03:41the town
03:42but in the empty hotel on the side of a mountain
03:46very near to the Slovach border
03:49so every night Roberto would drive back
03:53in his big white Mercedes
03:56and the guards would come out of the forest
03:58and would say: "What are you doing?"
04:01and then Roberto would speak
04:04while keeping his mouth shut
04:06so as not to allow the fumes of alcohol to escape
04:09and he would say:
04:11"We are science fiction writers..."
04:14"We go to sleep in the forest..."
04:18"...up the hill."
04:20when you were speaking I understood "THE GODS"
04:23and then I realised you were speaking about THE GUARDS
04:25but if they were THE GODS
04:26then I was thinking that we were drinking really good stuff
04:30to see the GODS talking to us
04:33actually the guards were stopping us every night
04:36and every night we escaped without damage
04:38the hotel was very strange
04:42in my room
04:43there was a television set
04:45but there was no electricity plug (presa)
04:51to put the electricity into the television
04:54so it was a room which
04:56pretended to be a hotel room
04:59this was the beginning of all
05:02an empty hotel in the forest
05:05with no guest except us
05:07AND Darth Vader
05:10a television which pretended to be a television
05:12because it couldn't possibly work there
05:14and this started to trigger our fantasies
05:17and then
05:18Darth Vader was late at breakfast
05:20My fantasies:
05:23(non mi piacerebbe di fare sesso con il cadavere di Darth Vader)
05:28I would not like to make sex with the corpse of Darth Vader
05:31is this how it all started?
05:34yes, yes, yes
05:36we were waiting for Darth Vader
05:38and we started to discuss about virtual necrophilia
05:41because, as you may know
05:43the future of cemeteries will be virtual cemeteries
05:48because they are more convenient than the physical ones
05:51then I said: let us write this story
05:56if you have a virtual cemetery
06:02actually you can mourn your beloved dead
06:08wherever in the world
06:09because it's there
06:11somebody dead is typically spiritual
06:13so you don't really need the symbol of their body
06:16which typically is a tomb
06:18you just need a symbol of them
06:20which can be on the screen of a computer
06:23wherever you are in the world
06:25you can have the same feeling of pain
06:28that you need
06:30so this was the beginning
06:32and then we started to imagine
06:34that they would start to blackmail you
06:36if you don't pay the rising fees
06:38for your virtual tomb
06:41yes, then somebody decided to publish this story
06:45in America.. and in Italy too
06:48so we thought: well, there must be a second story
06:52and by coincidence
06:54Roberto and I
06:55were in a car, belonging to him
06:58which was travelling from Budapest to Genova
07:02so we started to talk about The Penis of my Beloved
07:06which didn't belong actually to either of us
07:10but this was the second story
07:12which was then published in a Canadian...
07:14...erotica magazine
07:16and in fact became
07:19a part of "Best New Erotica"
07:23last year
07:24which is strange
07:25because not many people
07:28who seek for erotica excitement
07:30would necessarily become excited by this story
07:34I can hardly imagine somebody
07:35getting excited by this story at all
07:40the main character is a penis
07:40the main character is a penis
07:42the main character IS a penis
07:44without a body
07:47we will explain more about this after a while
07:50so gradually
07:51as we were compelled to meet
07:53in strange places such as
07:56Plovdiv, "Bucaresti"
07:58more stories gathered themselves
08:02we have a great debt to our Hungarian friend
08:06Péter Michaleczky
08:07because we were trying to leave "Bucaresti"
08:10to travel to Plovdiv
08:12when Péter came in and said
08:15"Il will have a shower"
08:17We know that the "doccia di Péter"..
08:20...the shower of Péter requires one hour
08:24so instead we went to the kitchen
08:26and we created a story called
08:28The Compost of My Beloved
08:31The funny thing is that
08:33some of the stories which have been published on several magazines
08:36have all had controversial reviews
08:39because nobody would say the stories are bad
08:42but they would say they are
08:44very interesting but very offensive
08:50how would you...
08:51transgressive, "trasgressivo"
08:54they didn't say transgressiv
08:55No, because they do not know the word
08:58ah, okay
08:59Roberto knows all of these words because
09:01he would write in Italian
09:04and then he would translate into English
09:07creating wonderful new
09:11surrealistic English words
09:14which generate the most fantastic ideas
09:19this is the power of creative mistakes
09:22mistakes are the real evolutive force of universe
09:25probably
09:27since every emerging property could be
09:29defined in a way as a mistake of a previous
09:32army of laws
09:34yes, there is a lot of philosophy in our book
09:38do not only read it
09:40for the pornographic content
09:44you will be VERY disappointed
09:49this is the only book ever written, I think
09:53by two Europeans with different mother tongues
10:00So it should receive an important award
10:05from the European Community, I think
10:09a prize of at least 10 million Euros
10:12because nobody has done this before
10:15after creating a complete book of such fiction
10:17after creating a complete book of such fictions
10:22I was inspired when I came down
10:25the autostrada (highway) of Italia
10:27I realised that in this book
10:31"siamo per sempre insieme"
10:34(we are forever together)
10:37I should explain
10:39that we are not homosexual
10:42Voice of Max Morando: "Not yet"
10:43"non siamo omosessuale"
10:45For this reason we discussed
10:47for 20 minutes
10:48whether we should buy it or not
10:50it might give the wrong impression
10:53if we appear in public
10:55with this badge upon our heads
10:57Now we will be discriminated
11:00because we are not homosexual
11:02probably
11:03a lot of the book is about political correctness
11:07and different methods of violating
11:09political correctness
11:12this is why in fact we have generated
11:15our advertising campaign
11:17also on the internet
11:19because it is interesting to see
11:22the reactions of people
11:23in - for example - England
11:25or in advanced cultures
11:28such as Italy
11:30when they see our propaganda campaign
11:32in fact our propaganda campaign
11:34is very decent and discrete
11:37now, interestingly
11:38if she was holding
11:40a bottle of perfume
11:42then she would be
11:45too much dressed to appear
11:48in Vogue Magazine
11:50but because she is holding a book
11:52people become very disturbed
11:55in their consciousness
11:57they become disturbed and however
12:00they can't turn their eyes away
12:02because on the other side
12:03words are written and you can read them
12:06however all the people
12:07look the publicity only from this side
12:10so as to be disturbed
12:13I wonder why
12:16this is a scientific experiment
12:19which we are carrying out here in Fiuggi
12:21with a sample of citizens
12:24of different countries of Europe
12:26and then we will carry it out in England
12:29at the Easter science fiction convention
12:32this is a VERY important experiment
12:35upon the perception of imagery
12:40and we require also
12:43at least ten million euros
12:45from the European Community
12:47for investigating something
12:49which has not yet been investigated
12:53we may continue to talk about the book
12:56for hours
12:58but maybe it should be better to...
13:00ask for questions
13:01ask for questions
13:02as different as they may be
13:04completely unrelated to the book
13:07or to sex or to whatever
13:09so that we
13:13don't reveal all the secrets of this book
13:17d'accordo, ci sono "domandas" in italiano o in inglese?
13:20(are there questions in Italian or English?)
13:24philosophical questions
13:26or not philosophical questions
13:28"domandas semanticas"
13:29(questions about semantics)
13:32grammatical questions
13:35Bruce Sterling:
13:37you gentlemen made an use of machine translation
13:39or it is all human kind?
13:41Oh, it is all human
13:43I'm not completely sure to be human
13:47but in the case I am
13:50it's all human, actually
13:51because the mistakes that machines create
13:56are not as creative as the ones
13:58that our unconscious does
14:01i suppose
14:02however this could be possible
14:03to make a google translation of our beloved stories
14:08NO, because one of the stories
14:10is about how google becomes
14:12a divinity
14:13GODOOGLE
14:17all the secrets inside the book
14:21and let's hope that godoogle didn't hear us
14:25yes, another question
14:27Sterling: so what could you say
14:29working in languages
14:30other than English and Italian
14:32like languages you guys yourself speak
14:34that's a really good question
14:36and actually I didn't think about that
14:38but we should think about that
14:39In Romanian for example
14:41yeah, but...
14:42"vorbest numai putin romaneste"
14:44"numai putin"
14:45(you speak only little Romanian)
14:46"pentru aste vom trebuie sa..."
14:47"sa avem ce bea si ce fute"
14:50"absolut de acord"
14:51we will do it in Romanian next time
14:59it's an interesting issue because
15:01by writing in another language
15:03we can introduce more creative mistakes
15:07yes, yes
15:08there are so many false friends
15:10between Spanish and Italian
15:12Italian and Romanian
15:14English and Italian
15:15but we can write a book
15:17entitled "False Friends"
15:19which, by choosing the mistakes
15:22which people can make
15:23in normal speaking
15:25will create an entirely alternative universe
15:30also in Russian it would be interesting
15:32just for the lack of articles
15:39it would be probably more synthetic
15:45ah, we don't call them articles...
15:49you mean "THE"
15:51ah, "THE", like "THE
15:53no, we do not put underclothes to articles
15:55try to [unudible] temptation
15:58I have rescued Roberto
16:00from
16:01for many years
16:03signing his books
16:05"with sympathy"
16:07no joke, no joke
16:08"simpatico"
16:10however in England
16:11this only means
16:13I am sorry your baby died
16:16or I am sorry that you have cancer
16:19so I took Roberto in England
16:22to a shop which sells
16:24cards, "cartoline"
16:25and put him in front
16:26of a section which says
16:28SYMPATHY
16:30"simpatico"
16:31and then he say THE TRUTH
16:34and how he has for years
16:36insulted
16:38the readers of his books
16:40ALL the readers of my books, actually
16:42because this was my standard dedication
16:44to the people I would know
16:46I think it was more than years
16:47it was decades
16:49decades, yes
16:50so now I write
16:51WITHOUT SYMPATHY
16:53in books
16:56I don't write "SENZA SIMPATIA" though
17:01so this is the value
17:04of cross-cultural collaboration
17:09we prevent ourselves
17:11from making silly mistakes
17:13but we unable ourselves to make
17:16the creative mistakes
17:18well actually we do also the silly ones
17:20YES
17:22the process of the questions is very efficient
17:25next question!
17:30somebody...
17:33he looks like the same person
17:35he changed personality three times
17:39how much did they pay him?
17:42Okay
17:43Sterling: forgive me if I dominate the questions
17:44but it's a keen interview
17:47we love that actually
17:48Sterling: do you have any methods
17:50for introducing mistakes deliberately
17:52like the surrealistic [unaudible] methods
17:56if you know them
17:57we use a lot of wine
17:59yes
18:02this helps
18:03helps, helps
18:04but very much
18:05In Romania we discovered a wine
18:07called "Red Paradox"
18:11it's a kind of Cabernet
18:12Roberto already wrote a book called
18:15Bread, Butter and Paradoxine
18:17"Pane, Burro e Paradossina"
18:22so by accident, a wine
18:25which encapsulates
18:27our vision of reality
18:33is.. very useful
18:35yes, absolutely
18:36this wine really exists
18:38I think this is probably
18:39the only wine in the world
18:41which is called
18:42Red Paradox
18:44I mean, who is so nuts to call a wine
18:46Paradox
18:48this must be either a science fiction fan
18:50or someone who doesn't know what it means
18:55because it's in English
18:57and it's in Romania
18:58mister Lally
18:59Lally: please ask Roberto why he shaved
19:02all his beard last night
19:05No, he does not have a beard
19:08upon the top of his head
19:10Lally, you must understand
19:13this is not the beard
19:15the beard is here
19:19except when people are upside down
19:22also other hair is gone
19:24but you won't see it
19:25oh, no
19:26well, he can pay money to see it
19:28I already made money by selling my wig
19:30Lally: this is important, we need to know
19:34a pervert in the audience
19:36another question from Bruce, please
19:39it is in order to conform
19:41with the photograph upon the cover
19:44so you are not confused
19:46and imagine that an impostor
19:49or clone
19:51of Quaglia is here
19:52actually it would have been too banal
19:54to have a different face
19:55than the one of the cover
19:58because people could have thought
19:59I did it on purpose
20:01to confuse them
20:02so I prefer to confuse them
20:03by not having a different face
20:05you have caused a lot of confusion
20:08I have confused myself
20:34I have, but I have amnesia
20:37creative amnesia
20:39I'm able to forget any book which I read
20:43but also
20:44any book which I write
20:47this is a problem when people
20:49ask me about a book I wrote 20 years ago
20:53because they think I will know
20:56what is in it
20:57no
20:58I use book and stories in order to store
21:02information, memories and emotions
21:05externally to my brain
21:13I store some into Roberto
21:18"touché"
21:21he stores some in me
21:24nothing sexual
21:29"siamo per sempre insieme"
21:33"però no un sentido sessuale"
21:37something sexual
21:41mister Lally
21:44my hair... where is my hair?
21:47Lally: Roberto, he grows his beard out of the Eurocon
21:54I didn't understand...
21:55why did you grow your beard after the Eurocon?
21:58WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
22:01he can see the future
22:02I can only invoke an Irish proverb
22:07[non audible]
22:12Mister Lally, are you interested why
22:14did Ian Watson cut his moustache
22:17some years ago?
22:19Lally: Yes, yes!
22:20I was sure about that
22:22it is because the Spanish word for moustache
22:26is "bigote"
22:28and the English word for a person who
22:30cannot think freely is bigot
22:34so, this means that people with moustaches
22:36are possibly in danger of bigotry
22:41except those people in this room
22:48thank you Mister Lally for this very good question
22:56there was too much bread in my moustache
23:01Bruce Sterling: did you start collaborating
23:02by means other than verbal means
23:04like putting visual collages
23:08we often look into each others eyes
23:15sometimes through a bottle which enhaces the view
23:20because partially full, partially empty...
23:25visual...
23:26actually I suppose that this also refers
23:28to what we see except our reciprocal eyes
23:31that means where we are
23:32and since we have been meeting
23:34in many countries in Europe
23:35and we generate different stories
23:39the visual environment has [unaudible]
23:41for example, when we were in Spain
23:43we have been to Batha
23:46a town where the people are happy once a year
23:49to meet all covered in oil
23:51and to run after one man
23:54who is dressed in white
23:55and they have to dirty him
23:57this is not olive oil
23:59this is dirty motor oil
24:02this was very visual
24:04and it actually led to one of our stories
24:07which is "My Beloved Cascamorras"
24:10"Cascamorras" is this man who is in white
24:12in the past he was probably even buggered
24:16if he was taken alive by the others
24:18yes, yes
24:20now it's only symbolical
24:26for this reason our story deals also with gay love
24:31in Danish harems
24:34in Morocco
24:35this is because Al Qaeda
24:37will use nuclear weapons upon Denmark
24:40because of the cartoons of the Prophet
24:43so therefore there must be a new place for
24:48the Danish citizens
24:52and we decided Morocco is a suitable place
24:55for them to live
24:57in gay harems
25:01you will realise why those are gay harems
25:05after you read the book
25:06I mean it all makes a sense
25:09totally
25:11perhaps if we had visited other places
25:13there would be slighly other stories
25:16slightly different
25:17BUT I DON'T THINK SO
25:21I think that if we had been for example
25:25in Vatican City
25:27we would nevertheless have written about
25:30gay Danish harems in Morocco
25:33once you hear about the gay Danish harems in Morocco
25:37how can you think this does not exist?
25:45people agree
25:45Bruce Sterling: your logic is beautiful, I have to say
25:46Bruce Sterling: I believe you
25:50Bruce Sterling: your logic is irrefutable
25:52it's a beautiful logic
25:53they will build upon them large cruiseships
25:58because after oil becomes impossible
26:01what do you do with all these large cruiseships?
26:04you pull them into the desert of Morocco
26:07to be abitations for gay Danes
26:15that's obvious
26:18Mister Lally
26:21Dave Lally: I was...
26:21do you want to see my hair?
26:27Lally: Ian, you've just acknowledged to this convention
26:29that you have trimmed your moustaches
26:32are you going to allow it to grow up again?
26:35Ah, nooo
26:42for as long as Roberto has no moustache
26:46I will have no moustache
26:47otherwise
26:48how could we be
26:50"per sempre insieme"
27:05other questions to induce us in creative mistakes?
27:09it is your advantage to ask questions
27:13because otherwise
27:15we might try
27:17to sell books to you
27:19before Sergei Lukyanenko occupies this room
27:28yes?
27:32Paolo Attivissimo: I'm sorry it's not one of yours
27:34it's just for mister Quaglia's book
27:36about 911
27:37Attivissimo: I',m having such a good time
27:39i don't want to introduce such a grim subject
27:43I find it very funny actually
27:45Attivissimo: 3000 people might not agree with you, never mind
27:48more people die every week end
27:55Attivissimo: is this...
27:57this is the first edition I think
27:59the second is out now
28:02Attivissimo: I'm trying to figure out if this is meant seriously or not
28:07this is YOUR problem
28:11it's really definetly your problem
28:15I cannot think for you, so...
28:17usually I suggest - there is an invention
28:20called "brain"
28:21which mankind evolved in millions of years
28:25and if I would tell you
28:26either it's for joke or it's for serious
28:30this would not help you
28:31because I could lie, first
28:33second, I could be wrong
28:37so I can only suggest "brain"
28:40it's very useless usually
28:41because the brain produces
28:43a lot of un-creative mistakes
28:46and other shit
28:48BUT, however, now and then, by mistake and/or poetry
28:53brain can be slightly aesthetically useful
28:58in this case to understand
28:59if it was for joke or for true
29:02but is there a difference?
29:04Attivissimo: yes, I think there is
29:07I am afraid there is not, but
29:08that's my opinion of today
29:10probably when I'm in a more grim mood
29:12I may think like you
29:15Attivissimo: OK, but I'm not grim, I enjoy myself
29:19But which language do you talk usually, Italian?
29:22Attivissimo: British
29:23and you bought it in Italian, so can you read it?
29:25this is a tecnical question
29:26Attivissimo: Yes, I'm a translator
29:29that's good
29:30you are allowed to translate it into English if you want
29:32Attivissimo: I wish I'd get paid
29:34you will be paid in bullets - not from me, of course
29:39very dangerous
29:42Attivissimo: but anyway, thanks for answering my question
29:44I've not been serious in my answer
29:46even though I've been
29:50I mean, everything is always it's opposite
29:51and it's wrong
29:52this is correct
29:53because you will discover in the book that
29:55there is the stupid C.I.A.
29:57and the clever C.I.A.
30:00in this book
30:00that book
30:01that has connections with that book also
30:04but there are also the stupid Al Qaida
30:07and the clever Al Qaida
30:09in this book we try to
30:10distinguish by spelling the name
30:12of Al Qaida slighly differently
30:15in different stories
30:17by accident
30:18however, the explanation is that
30:21these represent the clever Al Qaida
30:23and the stupid Al Qaeda
30:26usually we spell the name C.I.A
30:29at the same way
30:32to confuse you
30:33Attivissimo: I am sorry...
30:35and for plausible deniability
30:38this is also why
30:40in the real world
30:41"MacDonalds"
30:42is not spelled correctly
30:45as it is in this book
30:48with an added "a" between "M" and "c"
30:53Attivissimo: Thank you for confusing me very much
30:55I hope I've confused also all the audience
30:57because this is our purpose in life
30:59and mission
31:01confusion and illumination
31:03Attivissimo: I'm very [unaudible], thank you
31:06thank you very much
31:07somebody understood about which book
31:09he was talking about?
31:12because, you and I - or we - know
31:17but those don't
31:19but you can go there and buy it
31:20so that you cannot understand it yourselves
31:27it's in the shop
31:29Elisabetta Vernier: have you ever considered
31:31videorecording your performances
31:33and to post them on youtube?
31:35We are doing that in this very moment
31:37Roberto constantly does this
31:40I try to do it also when I sleep
31:42I'm too lazy to watch it to see if it's true
31:45The only problem he does this in Romania
31:47which jumped from a peasant economy
31:50to a high technology economy
31:52so the broadband quality is so high
31:55it's impossible to SEE these videos
31:58in Western Europe
32:018 years ago I was paying 1 $ for 1 megabyte
32:04for transfer in Romania
32:06and now when I have uploaded things
32:09I can see them very well with my Romanian broadband
32:11since I've been living in Romania for a while
32:13for the same reason why Bruce Sterling
32:15is staying in Torino
32:16WE DON'T KNOW
32:19now I've discovered that the Romanian broadband
32:21is cheaper and faster
32:23than the one in the rest of Europe
32:26don't ask me why
32:32while MacDonald burghers are more expensive
32:36Bruce Sterling: so you are plannnig running any further
32:38collaborations?
32:41we are already trying to write one story
32:43which is about the invention of money
32:46the problem is
32:47that the ideas which we had
32:49six months ago, four months ago
32:52which were surrealistic and crazy
32:54have been applied
32:55in the reality
32:57by the governments of the world
32:59already
33:00we still have one idea
33:02which they have not thought about
33:05very very powerful
33:06and we cannot write it down
33:08as they will do it
33:10and more nonexistent money will be created
33:13immediately
33:14to delay the collapse of civilization
33:17for 5 minutes
33:22eventually
33:25put me a question in Hungarian
33:26in the original language
33:31Jun Miyazaki: I have a question
33:34Thank you Jun
33:36Jun Miyazaki: At which kind of question do you think?
33:39One in Hungarian
33:40and we will answer it
33:41or Japanese
33:44or a mix of both
33:47Jun Miyazaki: [speaking Hungarian or Japanese]
33:49"Nem"
33:53Dragos Fofirca: Beautiful answer
33:56we have tried to make this
33:58the most pan-European book
34:02which has ever been produced
34:04and this is of course
34:06the spirit of Eurocon
34:07and why we come together every year
34:10and finally Roberto and I "insieme"
34:13have consumated becoming together
34:17of "fantascienza europea"
34:22there is also a story in San Marino
34:24500 Brigitte Bardot clones
34:28mister Lally
34:30Lally: (speaking Irish)
34:34the publicity for this book has two sides
34:36one is text
34:38but the other side is the young lady in the state of undressed
34:41Ian: this is very important
34:42Lally: I guess I have to ask
34:43how was this young lady paid and
34:45does her husband know?
34:47Roberto: you think only about money
34:49This mister Lally is a secret
34:51we have been asked during this week-end
34:54many times
34:55for telephone numbers
35:00this is a secret
35:03only the world of my beloved
35:06can produce an advertising campaign
35:09of such magnificence
35:12as we have produced
35:14in broadband also
35:16when it becomes viewable in western Europe
35:21everything can be watched actually on the website
35:23BELOVEDBOOK.COM
35:27yes but not yet
35:30well, either you can allow yourself Romanian broadband
35:35there is a question
35:37(someone speaking in Russian)
35:41Roberto: "конечно"
35:52(someone speaking in Russian)
35:54Roberto: "не знаю"
36:02there's another question from Bruce
36:05Bruce: as far as there are any previous collaborating teams
36:11well we don't know, there's why we ask
36:13Bruce: [first inaudible], Pohl & Cornbluth...
36:15they were all of the same language
36:16they speak the same language
36:19so actually the interesting thing is the
36:20difficulty of different mother languages
36:22and possibly also ways of thinking
36:27given the completely different roots
36:32Dragos: [inaudible]
36:38what do you mean?
36:40Dragos, what do you mean?
36:42Dragos: I’m not meaning
36:47Speaking about different mother languages
36:51what's about your father languages
36:53or similar languages
36:56this is interesting psychologically
36:58which countries have mother languages
37:01and which countries have father languages
37:05probably this explains a lot of history
37:11I think Roberto has a mother language
37:15do you have a mother or a father..
37:16NO, he has both
37:18because half of him is German
37:20and the other half is Italian
37:23and I have other pieces
37:25which have intruded meanwhile
37:29I think that we should slowly
37:30start to sell books
37:33in 5 minutes we'll have to leave
37:36there's a question
37:38Anastasia: Interactions in two languages are...
37:41[speaks in Russian]
37:45Roberto "это слишком быстро"
37:47Ian: "нет"
37:50Anastasia: do you want to write a book
37:52in collaboration with a Russian writer?
37:57The point is that
37:58decisions don't exist
38:01only things can happen
38:03this means
38:05the big difference between
38:06DECIDING to write a book
38:08and WRITING a book in collaboration
38:10is the same difference that we have
38:11between sex and love
38:13this means that
38:14sex - you can organise it
38:16love - you can not organise it
38:17it happens or it doesn't happen
38:19so, either creative resonance happens
38:21between two or more people
38:24which is one of the miracles of nature
38:26or it doesn't happen
38:27you cannot plan it
38:28if you plan it
38:29you execute a project
38:31it's something else
38:32and probably the results
38:33will be less interesting
38:35in my personal view
38:36so you cannot plan
38:37"I wish this will happen"
38:38it's not something that happens often
38:40like love
38:42which is something that...
38:46I hope I've answered in a way
38:49"per sempre insieme"
38:53I've told you he is very romantic
38:55we don't have books for all
38:58so you will have to fight
39:00one against the other
39:01perhaps these books will be burn
39:03by the New Inquisition
39:05of the political correct
39:06that very soon will make our book
39:09outlaw
39:10by accusing us of the modern crimes of
39:15harassment or pedophilia or both
39:18political correctness is worse
39:22Okay, huh, we should stop now
39:25and encourage people to buy
39:27copies of book
39:28which I should explain
39:30is slightly more expensive in euros
39:35because we had to send (perché¨ abbiamo dovuto mandare)
39:39the copies from England (gli esemplari da Inghilterra)
39:42which was very expensive (che costava molto caro)
39:45yes, the actual price is 15 euros
39:49what?
39:50Oh, yes, fifteen today
39:58a special discount for people who buy many books
40:02Can we pay in Sterling? (voice of Martin Hoare)
40:04"Sterlina" yes, in Bradford
40:06In two weeks in Bradford
40:16This is very good!