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00:00Do you think, and it's funny because these guys were on opposites, sort of, sort of.
00:04Do you think A.J. Brown, with what he said back in, I guess it was November or December,
00:11and what Brandon Graham said?
00:13I think what Brandon Graham did on this show might have been one of the things that kind of like galvanized that team.
00:18And I've said this a little bit inside the building.
00:22Regardless of what degree of it was kind of misinterpreted or missaid by Brandon,
00:27it forced those guys to communicate, talk, and come closer.
00:31And I think throughout my time, coaches and organizations really struggle with people that say things in the media,
00:38and I did as a young player, that it's like the wrong thing.
00:42It's an inconvenience for them to have to deal with this dumb thing that somebody said.
00:46Yep.
00:47Or controversial thing that somebody said.
00:49And the reality is, most of the time, there's some degree of that that is going to come out
00:57that is going to make people have to face what's being said, right?
01:02So you have to come to grips with it.
01:03And that can either lead to positivity or it can go the other way.
01:07And I think the Eagles handled it really well.
01:09They became closer and tighter.
01:11And it almost galvanized that team around both of those guys.
01:15Even more so.
01:17I had the impression Brandon did that purposefully.
01:20He might have.
01:21Here was my interpretation.
01:22This is what I sensed.
01:24I'm a 15-year veteran.
01:25This is probably it for me.
01:27I'm on a great team that has a shot to win the Super Bowl.
01:30I don't want to see our chance derailed by nonsense.
01:35Let's frickin' lock it the hell in.
01:39That's the way I interpreted Brandon going public when he did.
01:42I think that is potential.
01:44There also could be a level of not even being that thought out.
01:47And that's just the feeling that he has.
01:49And it just kind of comes out naturally.
01:51I think a lot of guys that are great leaders don't even all the time think about why they're doing things.
01:56It just feels right.
01:58And I don't know.
02:00Again, I'm not going to say whether nobody knows other than those two guys what degree of that was true, right?
02:07But it doesn't matter.
02:08It galvanized them around each other and made the team tighter.
02:11And I think to what the Phillies are going through, I know this isn't probably what everybody who watches the Phillies wants to hear.
02:17It could be the best thing that's happening to them right now because the way they ended last season sucked, right?
02:21They didn't end it the way they should have at the start of the season.
02:24There's a ton of talent on this roster.
02:26If these guys get it together, they should have the talent to be really competitive and win.
02:30Totally.
02:30And if you look at the best teams since I've been in Philadelphia, almost all of us struggled at the start of the year.
02:362017, we were not great at the start of the year.
02:38Then we went on like a nine-game winning streak.
02:40The year this past year, obviously, people were calling for next year.
02:43I'd be fired first half of the season.
02:46Look at the Phillies, the two best years they've had.
02:48They had terrible first half starts.
02:50That's right.
02:50And came on at the end of it.
02:51This city, it's almost good to have adversity because if you have a tight enough group and you have a good enough core,
02:59you become tighter and galvanized as a result of what's happening with all of the noise.
03:04It can also destroy you.
03:06So we'll find out which one of those happens with the Phillies.
03:09I tend to think these guys are, it feels like they've been tight before.
03:13They need somebody to have some gusto and just to, I don't know, it's hard to explain.
03:23But there's always got to be one or two of those guys that are just a wild card that is going to just pop off.
03:30It's going to piss everybody off for a day.
03:32And then everybody's going to be like, you know what, that was like a big truth bomb.
03:35Or that was like, the amount of passion that he showed rubs off on other guys.
03:40That's the stuff that I want to see a little bit more out of the Phillies, just in general.
03:44Boy, that resonates with me.