Pape - Le cercueil du pape François est arrivé à la basilique Saint-Pierre, où les fidèles pourront venir se recueillir pendant trois jours - VIDEO
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00:00Je n'ai jamais vu un pope close-up ou rencontré un pope, Jean-Paul II, pour moi.
00:05Un homme avec une grande aura et une présence.
00:12Et il est un saint, bien sûr, et vous pouvez voir pourquoi il était vraiment très, très spécial en tant que manière.
00:21Et je pense qu'il y a eu l'impression que ce pope peut avoir été le même,
00:25mais peut-être qu'il n'était pas long enough pour trouver.
00:30How did you get to meet Jean-Paul?
00:32Galway in Ireland. I was 18 at the time and there was this massive turnout.
00:38I think the whole of Ireland was there actually.
00:40There was Dublin, Galway where he made these appearances and everybody travelled just to see.
00:47And I think being at that age, that influential young age of, you know, coming out of your teenage years,
00:54I think it was very impressionable to be there and to be at the mass that he was conducting.
01:00And then he drove past and, you know, he would go and see.
01:04We were all broken up into various sections or squares and covered acres and acres and acres of land.
01:11And he went round and, you know, you would get close and everybody waved and you felt very, very uplifted by the whole thing.
01:18Yeah, it was very different.
01:21But these are sad scenes.
01:25I mean, I don't think they're heartbreaking.
01:27He was an 88-year-old man.
01:29He'd lived a life.
01:30His health was not good, certainly, over the past 10 years.
01:35And I think it's amazing to watch how the man physically changed over that time.
01:43And he doesn't look like the same person that when he was installed as Pope as to when he died.
01:51Very, very, very different.
01:53Well, if you've just tuned in, we are showing live pictures of Pope Francis' procession, which is currently underway.
02:02This coffin moves from Casa Santa Maria to St. Peter's Basilica.
02:08Of course, a very sombre day, but he was an incredible man.
02:13And some say he was quite a liberal pope, perhaps too much for some's liking.
02:19But even the fact that he is going to have a very simple coffin, not in the place that most popes are buried.
02:25But that isn't without controversy, Nana, because, you know, a lot of people who are more rigid, more conservative in the church were infuriated by Francis' softening of the church's stance on, say, divorced couples, remarried Catholics.
02:43And this prompted a whole group of clerics to accuse Francis of heresy for things like that.
02:52So in many ways, he was associated with the poor and the dispossessed.
03:02And even the way he's in his coffin there, I believe he's barefooted or he's wearing very simple sandals as opposed to the red velvet shoes.