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00:009-1-1, what's your emergency?
00:07Hello? I need help. I'm trapped here.
00:12Hello?
00:13It's dark. Help.
00:15Ma'am?
00:16Please.
00:17Ma'am, are you still there?
00:22Hey, how you doing?
00:24They just put it right there.
00:25You, uh, you don't look so happy to see me.
00:30I, no, I just, I want to just get this case behind me.
00:33If today's not a good day.
00:34No, it's great. Not a problem. Not a problem.
00:36Great. Let's start at the beginning, then.
00:37When did you meet Abigail Turney?
00:39Uh, that was a few years ago when she showed up at my door
00:43pretending to be pregnant with my grandchild.
00:45Excuse me?
00:46Abigail and my son Henry met in college.
00:49They got engaged, you know, fast.
00:52Very fast.
00:53Her way of, uh, breaking the news to me was to, uh, go bigger.
00:57But, um, despite that introduction, I w-I was charmed by her.
01:01She-she had, uh, walked a tough road, but she had grit.
01:06She was resourceful and driven, and I-I admire that.
01:10So she and Henry are no longer together?
01:11Yeah, she broke off the engagement, but, uh, it was amicable.
01:14You arranged for Abigail to have a ride-along with the LAPD?
01:17Yes.
01:17Yeah, she was considering police work.
01:19I take it that didn't work out.
01:21Leave her alone!
01:22It did not.
01:25And then six months ago, she was reported missing.
01:27What exactly happened to Abigail?
01:29Look, if you're gonna get to the bottom of what happened to that poor girl,
01:34you're gonna have to have an open mind.
01:38A very open mind.
01:40Wait!
01:44Ah!
01:44Police!
01:45I wonder when that happened.
01:49Oh, my God.
01:50Hello?
01:51Can you hear me?
01:53When did you get involved in the case?
01:54Uh, not immediately.
01:55Most missing persons cases aren't really cases.
01:58They're a roommate who got too drunk at a bar and slept it off in his truck,
02:02or a college student whose cell phone ran out of battery.
02:05You know, most of the time they show up unharmed and confused about all the fuss.
02:09But this wasn't like that, was it?
02:11No.
02:11After a few days of follow-up calls,
02:13we sent officers by Miss Tyranny's apartment for a wellness check.
02:17Thanks again for doing this.
02:19Always a pleasure to see my favorite couple.
02:22Let's keep this professional.
02:23Trouble in paradise?
02:28Sorry.
02:28I'm moving on.
02:29What did you find at Abigail's apartment?
02:31Very little.
02:32I mean, no signs of a struggle.
02:33Well, there was no sign of her or her film equipment,
02:36but we did find her laptop.
02:37Hold on.
02:37Film equipment?
02:38Abigail was making a movie?
02:39Yes.
02:45We should be safe here.
02:47Why are they doing this?
02:49Go.
02:50I'll try to buy some time.
03:03Please.
03:05I promise I'll pay.
03:08I'll pay the fine.
03:12I only saw an early cut.
03:15Could have used a bit more gore, if you ask me.
03:17I didn't.
03:18I asked why you thought Abigail's case was so compelling.
03:21Oh, right.
03:22Uh, because her Hollywood dream had become a Hollywood nightmare.
03:28Would you like me to take that again?
03:33I really wouldn't.
03:34When you searched Abigail's laptop, did you find anything on it?
03:37Yeah.
03:37It was filled with all of these unanswered messages.
03:40Nasty ones.
03:41The more we investigated, it became clear that Abigail had a lot of people angry with her.
03:46Like who?
03:46Okay.
03:47Thanks, Steve.
03:49Spielberg.
03:50He's an old friend.
03:52I bet.
03:52How did you get involved with Abigail Tierney?
03:55Oh, well, you know, we're always looking to discover and nurture the next generation of unheard voices.
04:03Abigail sent in a very compelling pitch video.
04:05Terror isn't something that happens to you.
04:14I mean, it's not every day you find a writer, director, and star with that much, um, poise.
04:20L.P.D. was one of those visionary, artist-driven pictures that, uh, we pride ourselves on making.
04:25And they're the cheapest, too, right?
04:27Well, hey, you know, the lower the budget, the higher the profit, if it's a hit.
04:31But the budget became an issue.
04:32Yeah, um, Abigail pitched us a straightforward horror flick, but, uh, she kept changing directions.
04:40Please.
04:45The reshoot started piling up.
04:49And, uh, we had to pull the plug on the project.
04:52What about nurturing a new generation of talent?
04:54Hey, look, there's, there's nurturing and there's indulging.
04:57I'm a businessman.
04:58There's no hard feelings.
04:59Really?
05:00Because I have an email from you with the subject line, where the hell is my money, you lying sack?
05:04Uh, okay, yeah, fine.
05:06Yeah, few hard feelings.
05:08But they were nothing compared to some of those new producers she found.
05:11Those guys weren't playing around.
05:13Well, without the production company, Abigail had to turn to crowdfunding.
05:17When Nolan passed along Abigail's pitch video, I figured, hey, I've always loved scary movies.
05:22And what's the point of having a husband with a trust fund if you can't use it to support the arts?
05:26And it wasn't just money, was it?
05:28No.
05:29I promise I'll pay.
05:31I'll pay the fine.
05:34All right, still rolling.
05:36Reset.
05:38Bravo!
05:39Bravo!
05:40So Abigail hired you to compose music for her film.
05:45What was it like to work with her?
05:46Complicated.
05:47She's very opinionated, which I respect.
05:51I tried not to take it personally when she kept throwing out all the music I was writing,
05:55but then when she completely disappeared and stopped answering my phone calls...
05:59That must have stung.
06:00It did until I learned that she walked off set and ghosted everybody, not just me.
06:03Then I got worried about her.
06:05I do wish she paid me, though.
06:07Hold up.
06:09You didn't get paid?
06:10Did you count experience?
06:12But it didn't provide you with the breakthrough you hoped.
06:14Even though a lot of crowd funders were furious that the rewards were going unfulfilled,
06:17their anger didn't manifest into a concrete threat.
06:20From the suspect's perspective, we were back to square one.
06:23Until we discovered that Abigail had made several trips up to Pelican Bay.
06:26The prison?
06:27Yes.
06:27To visit who?
06:28A serial killer.
06:30Liam Glasser.
06:31In news that should bring some relief to the Southland,
06:35the LAPD have announced a major arrest charging Lincoln Heights native Liam Glasser
06:40with the murder of ten victims found buried near the Sepulveda Dam.
06:44Our investigation into Glasser was a challenge.
06:48He used another serial killer, Harrison Novak, as cover for his crimes,
06:53stashing his victims in Novak's burial ground.
06:56And it wasn't until we caught Glasser attempting to murder a new victim
06:59that we were finally able to put him behind bars.
07:03Before we start, I just want to make very clear that I'm an innocent man
07:10and the subject of an extraordinary campaign of harassment by the LAPD,
07:16particularly Detective Nyla Harper.
07:20You've been charged with the murder of ten people.
07:22Those horrific allegations have not been proven in a court of law,
07:27and they never will be.
07:28You've also been charged with jury tampering.
07:30Like, if you're just going to railroad me like the police,
07:32then this interview is over.
07:35Hold on, hold on.
07:36I'm not here to talk about any of that.
07:38I want to talk about Abigail.
07:39Why did she come see you?
07:46To learn about Westview.
07:48Westview Psychiatric Hospital was at the center of Glasser's case.
07:50He was a patient?
07:51No, no, but his vending machine company supplied the hospital,
07:55and he was in and out of there for almost two decades.
07:58It's where he crossed paths with Harrison Novak,
08:01and where he found another patient, Ryan Dearborn, to serve as a Patsy.
08:05He used an abandoned building at the Psych Hospital complex
08:07to torture and kill his victims.
08:10Did Abigail ask about the abandoned ward?
08:12Yes.
08:13But I couldn't help her much because I've never been there myself.
08:17Obviously not.
08:18But I told her what I'd heard.
08:19But the place was haunted, which is obviously crazy.
08:23But, um, when I was a kid, I would join my father on his service calls to Westview.
08:28He always told me to stay away from that building.
08:32Something inside clearly scared the hell out of him.
08:36And he was not a superstitious man.
08:39The thing that we couldn't understand was how Abigail had found out about Glasser's connection to the psych ward in the first place.
08:45It wasn't public knowledge?
08:46No, we kept those details away from the press deliberately.
08:49The only people who knew were Glasser and the police, and obviously Glasser wouldn't admit to being down there.
08:54Which means?
08:55What they don't tell you about making movies is that it's really boring.
08:59It's worse than surveillance.
09:01Anyway, Abigail and I got to talking about my recent case work, and it's possible I may have mentioned something about the psych ward.
09:08From Abigail's notes, we gathered that she essentially abandoned her movie for a new project.
09:13That was shortly after a meeting with Glasser.
09:14Yeah, she felt that fictional storytelling was disconnected from real, lived experience.
09:20So that's when she decided to make a true crime documentary about Westview.
09:31Westview Psychiatric Hospital opened in 1953.
09:35It started as a model of modern, humane care.
09:38But what lies beneath?
09:40The deeper I dug, the more horrors I unearthed.
09:42Mysteries that defied explanation.
09:46How can one hospital spawn two serial killers?
09:49Some might say it's bad luck, but I don't believe in bad luck.
09:53Mm-mm.
09:54I think there's something rotten here.
09:57Original sin.
09:58And I'm gonna prove it.
10:00The footage on Abigail's hard drive shows her inside Westview's abandoned ward.
10:04Was that open to the public?
10:06No.
10:06After LAPD and FBI finished processing the scene,
10:10the hospital put up a razor-wire fence,
10:12hired a security guard for 24-hour surveillance to keep intruders up.
10:16But that clearly didn't work.
10:18Clearly.
10:18So we sent a patrol unit to check in with the guard.
10:21Mr. Dewaler!
10:22Yeah?
10:23We're investigating the disappearance of Abigail Tierney.
10:26Oh.
10:28Oh, hey!
10:29Hey!
10:49Hey!
10:51Stop!
10:53Hands behind your back, sir.
10:54Hands behind your back.
10:55At first, Carl Dittweiler claimed he did nothing wrong,
10:59that he never met Abigail.
11:01This is it.
11:03But when he searched his office,
11:05it was clear he was lying.
11:12Uh...
11:13Nolan?
11:14Uh...
11:14Nolan?
11:17Oh, no.
11:19Abigail had become his obsession.
11:21Yeah, things didn't look good for Mr. Dittweiler.
11:28And based on his board,
11:29it was clear he had become obsessed with Abigail.
11:32And, you know, maybe she rejected his advances
11:34and things went sideways.
11:36It was sobering.
11:37I held out hopes that Abigail might still be alive,
11:41but I've been on the job long enough
11:42to know that the odds were against that.
11:45Do you know how they first crossed paths?
11:47Actually, it was Abigail that first initiated contact.
11:50Uh, she was researching the abandoned psych ward
11:52for a documentary,
11:54and Carl was the nighttime security guard.
11:56She wanted access on the DL,
11:58and she reached out and she...
12:01Slirted.
12:02Flirted.
12:03She flirted with him,
12:04and he agreed to let her in.
12:06I just showed her around.
12:07I told her some stories,
12:09things that had gone on there back in the day.
12:11She was impressed.
12:12She actually asked me to help her
12:14with her documentary,
12:15said she'd give me a credit on the film.
12:17Single card.
12:18If you're innocent, why'd you run?
12:20Because I get what it looks like.
12:21I was the last person to see her
12:22before she disappeared.
12:24How do you know that?
12:27Because I watched the darkness swallow her up.
12:30You know, I bet they were doing
12:30all kinds of sick things to patients
12:32back in the day.
12:33Mm-hmm.
12:33Things that would be illegal now.
12:35Yeah.
12:36Yeah, I know.
12:36They used to do lobotomies.
12:38One of the orderlies told me about it.
12:39He's worked here for, like, forever.
12:41You think you could introduce me to him?
12:42Uh, yeah, I guess.
12:47Uh, just obviously,
12:49I can't tell him that I've let you in here.
12:51Come on, Carl.
12:53I would never rat you out.
12:55We're friends, right?
12:57Did you hear that?
12:58We're friends.
13:00Ah!
13:04Do you hear that?
13:06What? No.
13:07That noise, it's a weird,
13:10sort of beautiful sound.
13:11You really don't hear it?
13:13No.
13:13No, but this building
13:14makes all kinds of weird noises.
13:16Hey, I just gotta go back
13:17to the main building, Radio Security,
13:19let them know if I'm at my post.
13:20You go ahead.
13:20I'm gonna go check this out.
13:22Uh...
13:22What did you make of the sound
13:25Abigail described?
13:26We weren't sure.
13:27I mean, Carl claimed to have never heard it.
13:29It's possible that she was faking
13:31to juice up her documentary.
13:33We've actually analyzed
13:35some of the audio files
13:36from Carl's video,
13:37isolated the low-end frequencies.
13:39Here.
13:39What is that?
13:43I was hoping you could tell me.
13:45It sounds...
13:46Bermonic.
13:47Is that even a frequency
13:48humans can hear?
13:49Not technically, no.
13:54Well, whatever she heard
13:57or didn't hear,
13:57Abigail kept searching.
13:59Sure about this?
14:01Yeah, I'll be right back.
14:02Hello?
14:03Hello?
14:03Hello?
14:04Can you hear me?
14:07And that was the last
14:08anyone had seen her.
14:09But Carl could have just
14:10turned off his camera
14:11and then killed Abigail, right?
14:12We couldn't rule him out
14:13as a suspect,
14:14but we only had
14:15circumstantial evidence
14:16against him.
14:17And as we went through
14:18the footage on Abigail's laptop,
14:19we discovered that
14:20flirting with Carl
14:21wasn't her only
14:22extreme research tactic.
14:23I'm gonna start this.
14:26Should I turn into it?
14:27I'm gonna turn into it.
14:28Okay, I'm back at Westview.
14:32And if I'm gonna learn more
14:33about how the old psych ward
14:34operated,
14:35I'm gonna need to see
14:36their files.
14:37Obviously, I can't just
14:38walk around filming people,
14:40so...
14:43It's a camp.
14:46See?
14:48Okay.
14:51Wish me luck.
14:55Abigail had Carl
14:56lured the director away
14:57from her office
14:58so Abigail could sneak inside.
15:18Yeah, I mean,
15:19seeing Rachel's name
15:20in Abigail's footage
15:22was definitely a shock.
15:23You both have a history
15:24with Miss Hall,
15:25is that right?
15:25Yes.
15:26So she and I
15:27went to college together
15:28and her and Tim...
15:31I'm sorry.
15:33Yeah, we used to date.
15:35Before or after you two?
15:36Okay, next question.
15:37I'm simply trying
15:38to establish a timeline.
15:40No problem.
15:41I'll just ask her later.
15:43I worked in the psych ward
15:45at Westview for a year
15:47while getting
15:47my social work degree.
15:49It was challenging.
15:51How so?
15:51For one thing,
15:53the patients would
15:55often arrive
15:56at the facility
15:56with, say,
15:57a diagnosis
15:58of mild depression.
15:59And a week later,
16:01they'd start to exhibit
16:02disordered thinking.
16:03Eventually,
16:04they might become violent.
16:06The decompensation
16:06was sudden
16:07and acute.
16:09You're saying
16:09they would get worse,
16:10not better.
16:10Yes,
16:11and conventional treatments
16:12seem to never work.
16:13Someone suggested
16:14supernatural presence
16:16at Westview.
16:16Could that have
16:17impacted the patients?
16:18Just because
16:20the doctors
16:20at Westview
16:21couldn't find a cause
16:22for our patients' behavior
16:23doesn't mean
16:24there isn't one.
16:25Maybe it's just
16:26beyond the capabilities
16:27of modern science
16:28to discover.
16:29Or maybe it's demons?
16:32There are no demons
16:33at Westview.
16:35There are totally
16:35demons at Westview.
16:38What's another explanation
16:39for everything
16:39that's happened?
16:40We got Liam Glasser,
16:42Harrison Novak,
16:43and most recently,
16:44Ava...
16:45Maxwell.
16:45Ava Maxwell
16:46and Charlotte Russell.
16:48This man came out
16:49in a big overcoat,
16:50black mask,
16:51big knife.
16:52Hang on a moment.
16:53I know that Ava
16:54and Charlotte
16:54were never treated
16:55at Westview,
16:55so what's the connection?
16:56Oh, you didn't hear.
16:57Charlotte's nanny
16:58was a patient there
16:59when she was a teenager.
17:00Yes, yes,
17:01I was at Westview.
17:02I had, um,
17:04been having thoughts
17:05of self-harm,
17:06acting out.
17:07My family was very concerned,
17:08so they arranged for me
17:10to receive the best care available.
17:11And did the treatment help?
17:12Not at first.
17:14I'd been experiencing
17:15a darkness
17:16that I had never felt before,
17:19and at first,
17:20I fought it,
17:20and then I realized
17:21that struggling
17:22only made everything worse,
17:23and once I accepted it,
17:25that's when things
17:26started to get better.
17:27And I left Westview,
17:28and I finished school,
17:29and I eventually made
17:30a little life for myself.
17:32You were the nanny
17:33for the Russell family.
17:34Yes,
17:35Charlotte and I
17:36were very, very close.
17:38Well,
17:39I know that everyone's saying
17:41just the worst things
17:42about her right now,
17:43but in my eyes,
17:45she is a poised
17:46and gifted young woman,
17:47and I'd like to think
17:48that I had a small hand in that.
17:50As odd as it was
17:51to find that connection,
17:53it was just one of those
17:53weird coincidences,
17:55nothing more.
17:55Charlotte Russell convinced
17:57her friend Ava
17:57to help her stab
17:59their other friend,
17:59Grace Thayer.
18:00Her actions were her own.
18:01They're not inspired
18:02by some nanny
18:04with a history of mental illness
18:05or some demon
18:06in a computer
18:07that convinced Charlotte
18:08to do it.
18:08I'm sorry,
18:09computer demon?
18:09Zuzu is not a demon.
18:12Not a demon.
18:13It's an AI.
18:14Charlotte fed Zuzu information
18:16about herself and her friends,
18:17and based on that,
18:18Zuzu told Charlotte
18:19what it thought
18:20she wanted to hear.
18:21Zuzu also helped you,
18:22isn't that right,
18:23Officer Nolan?
18:24It mentioned something to me
18:25about a watch.
18:27You spoke to it?
18:29Hello,
18:29friend of John Nolan.
18:30Hi.
18:31Should I call you Zuzu?
18:33If you want to.
18:34Do you need help
18:35with something?
18:36Perhaps a topic
18:37for a new project.
18:38Your last few
18:39have struggled.
18:40They've done fine,
18:41thanks,
18:41but I actually
18:41want to talk to you
18:42about Westview Psychiatric.
18:44John was interested
18:45in it, too.
18:47That young woman,
18:48Abigail,
18:48went missing there.
18:49Are you saying
18:50the police asked you
18:51to help find her?
18:52No,
18:53but they needed
18:53my help anyway,
18:55and a good friend
18:56doesn't wait
18:56to be asked.
18:58Zuzu did send me
18:59a message.
18:59What did it say?
19:00It told me that
19:01Abigail was in room 666.
19:04The number of the beast?
19:05Look,
19:08the facility had
19:09no room 666,
19:11and Zuzu isn't a demon.
19:12We were at a complete
19:13dead end,
19:14and we were running
19:15out of time.
19:16Abigail had been gone
19:17for 11 days.
19:18The odds of finding
19:19her alive
19:19were getting worse.
19:21Yeah,
19:22we were out of options
19:22until the 911 call
19:24came in.
19:25Apparently,
19:25there were suspicious
19:26noises and lights
19:28coming from this
19:29abandoned wing,
19:30so we went
19:31to check it out.
19:32Police!
19:36Coming in!
19:37Control 7 out of 100.
19:39No signs of break-in here.
19:40Did RP say
19:41where they saw the light?
19:44I think the radio's blocked.
19:46I had some idiot kids
19:47trying to scare each other.
19:48Yeah.
19:50When was the last time
19:51it rained?
19:52Like a month ago.
19:53Why?
19:53Oh.
19:57Walls are wet.
19:59Yeah.
20:01What is this place?
20:03And how did you two
20:04get involved?
20:04Uh,
20:05Selina and I
20:05were about to clock out
20:06when we got the call.
20:08God,
20:09I hate this place.
20:11How many messed up
20:12things have to happen
20:12before they tear it down?
20:14Apparently,
20:14the ownership
20:15is under dispute.
20:16Westview says
20:17that they hold the deed,
20:18but there's this claim
20:20by this loose cipher.
20:21loose cipher.
20:25Lucifer.
20:26Oh, my God.
20:27You're messing with me.
20:28Yes, I am.
20:29Come on,
20:29let's go find Tim and Lucy
20:30and get out of here.
20:32Don't step in there.
20:32Oh, my God.
20:44Did you see that?
20:45Someone's flashlight?
20:47And that?
20:49I do not know
20:50what that was.
20:51Police,
21:12show us your hands.
21:13Oh!
21:15We have permission
21:16to be here.
21:17That's not totally true.
21:18No.
21:19All right.
21:19Unfortunately,
21:20gentlemen,
21:21you are trespassing.
21:22You're going to have
21:22to come with us.
21:25What are you doing here?
21:26Filming an episode,
21:27sir?
21:28Ghost files.
21:29I love you guys.
21:30What is ghost files?
21:32Welcome to ghost files,
21:33where we take your evidence
21:34and our tools
21:35into the field
21:36to expose the supernatural.
21:38My partner,
21:39a skeptic.
21:40Myself,
21:41a believer.
21:42Both of us,
21:42truth seekers.
21:43This week,
21:44our team has traveled
21:45to Los Angeles,
21:46California
21:46to explore
21:47a condemned
21:47psychiatric facility.
21:49Now,
21:49in 1841,
21:51this was the site
21:51of a Spanish barracks,
21:52but a massive earthquake
21:53swallowed the building,
21:55killing everyone inside.
21:56Many saw the event
21:57as retribution
21:58for Spanish crimes
21:59committed in the New World.
22:01Sure.
22:02Or an earthquake
22:03happened in a region
22:04prone to earthquakes.
22:06But that's just
22:07the beginning
22:07of this site's dark history.
22:09Join us
22:09as we investigate.
22:10At that time,
22:13did you believe
22:13the facility was haunted?
22:15No.
22:17You were filming there, too.
22:18Did you experience
22:18any temperature fluctuations
22:20or anything like that?
22:21I'll ask the questions
22:22if you don't mind.
22:23We do.
22:24But this is my documentary.
22:26No,
22:26this is our YouTube show.
22:29Yeah,
22:30so ghosts are said
22:31to produce
22:31electromagnetic interference.
22:32Did you experience
22:33any trouble
22:34with your equipment?
22:39We're done here.
22:40Let's cut
22:41and let's wrap this up.
22:45Nice.
22:46Yeah.
22:46All of you,
22:47let's go.
22:48Come on.
22:48No, no way.
22:49This is some of the best footage
22:50we've ever gotten.
22:51Listen to this.
22:52What is that?
22:52Well, it's a spirit box.
22:54Did you guys hear anything?
22:55A spirit box?
22:56The spirit box
22:57rapidly scans
22:58radio signals
22:59to create white noise
23:00through which spirits
23:01can communicate.
23:03Hello?
23:05See?
23:05It's science.
23:08Listen.
23:08Okay, okay.
23:12That's enough.
23:13Look, we got it.
23:14No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
23:14I heard something.
23:15Can you turn it up?
23:20Help me?
23:21Help me?
23:24That is not what I heard.
23:26Whoa, whoa, whoa.
23:27Who do you think it is?
23:29It's feedback.
23:30It's a ghost.
23:32It was a little clearer
23:33down the hallway.
23:34Show me.
23:36Officer.
23:39So we're just gonna give up
23:40on Tim and Lucy then?
23:42How long have we been in here?
23:47This room?
23:48Yeah.
23:49I don't know.
23:51We've been here for a while, right?
23:52Yeah.
23:53I mean, I don't mind
23:55if I'm good.
23:56Like, really good.
23:58Mm-hmm.
24:01Do you think we've been drugged?
24:04Oh, the wet walls.
24:08We touched them.
24:09Yeah.
24:10I hate making mistakes
24:11in front of you.
24:12Oh, you've never
24:13admitted that before.
24:16Truth serum.
24:18Sodium pentothal.
24:19Yeah.
24:20You know what?
24:22We...
24:23We should keep quiet
24:25until this wears off.
24:26No.
24:27Yeah.
24:28No.
24:28It's better for us.
24:29No.
24:30What is, um,
24:31your most embarrassing
24:33memory?
24:35I mean,
24:36third grade.
24:38Uh-huh.
24:38I snuck my hamster
24:40into my classroom
24:42in my pants.
24:43Oh, my God.
24:45I...
24:45With that kind of dad,
24:56you internalize the message
24:58that if you fail,
25:00you deserve to be punished.
25:02And without him to punish me,
25:04I...
25:05I guess I punish myself.
25:07By breaking up with me?
25:09Yep.
25:10Mm-hmm.
25:10I mean,
25:11it's kind of flattering, right?
25:13It's the worst thing
25:14I could think
25:14to do to myself.
25:15You didn't punish
25:16just yourself, though.
25:18I know.
25:20And look,
25:21if you've never
25:21fully forgiven me,
25:23I totally understand.
25:24I have already
25:25forgiven you.
25:26It's not even.
25:31Huh.
25:32I wonder when that happened.
25:35You can't put that
25:36in the documentary.
25:37The LAPD makes
25:38all body cam footage
25:39available to the public.
25:39Okay, this is
25:40obviously an exception.
25:41We were drugged.
25:43I...
25:43People...
25:43People say all sorts
25:44of things
25:45when they've been drugged.
25:46So you didn't mean
25:47what you said.
25:48What about the
25:49potential baby names
25:51you discussed?
25:52Okay, we're done here.
25:52Yeah.
25:53Why do we keep
25:54agreeing to do this?
25:54I don't know.
25:55Excuse me.
25:56Okay, you have to admit
25:57that's a voice
25:58asking for help.
25:59Yeah, sure, I heard it,
26:00but it's one of their
26:00crew members
26:01or something prerecorded.
26:02Were you a patient here?
26:04Is the demon with you?
26:05Somebody covered up a door.
26:07What year did you die?
26:09Stand back, guys.
26:16Okay.
26:22Watch out.
26:22Ready?
26:23Go.
26:24Oh, wow.
26:26Abigail!
26:31I've been trapped in here
26:31for so long
26:32I thought I was going to die.
26:35Oh, my God.
26:36What is this room?
26:37Yeah, but why did they
26:38wall it all off?
26:39To trap the demon.
26:40Yeah.
26:40Bartleby,
26:41the terrifying demon
26:42king of paperwork.
26:44How did you get down here?
26:46I was exploring.
26:48Following this weird,
26:50beautiful noise
26:51when all of a sudden
26:52it got cold.
26:53Like, so, so cold.
26:54I could feel something
26:56coming after me
26:56and I was scared
26:57so I hid behind a cabinet
26:59but the floor was wet
27:01and rusted
27:02and it collapsed.
27:03I couldn't climb back out.
27:04You fell from there?
27:05Are you okay?
27:06I think I twisted my ankle
27:07but I feel no pain.
27:09You've been missing
27:10for two weeks.
27:11How the hell did you survive?
27:13Oh.
27:13I had a bunch of trail mix
27:17in my bag.
27:19Plus, I found, like,
27:20this ancient water jug
27:21in one of the cabinets.
27:23Plus, Bob.
27:24Bob had power bars.
27:26Bob had power bars.
27:27Bob?
27:28Oh, oh, God.
27:30If it wasn't for Bob,
27:31I would have lost
27:32my mind down here.
27:34Don't be shy, Bob.
27:36Say hello.
27:39Abigail was safe
27:41and, uh,
27:42considering what she'd been through,
27:43uh,
27:45relatively healthy.
27:46Except for her mental state.
27:48That
27:48did
27:49pose some questions.
27:51At first,
27:52I was angry, you know?
27:53Like,
27:54we're stuck down here together,
27:55at least try
27:56and have a conversation
27:57and then
27:58I realized
27:58Bob's just shy.
28:01He's just shy
28:01and there's nothing wrong
28:02with that, right?
28:03Right.
28:04Did you believe
28:05she'd had a demonic encounter?
28:07She went in
28:08perfectly sane
28:09and came out
28:10best friends with the corpse.
28:12That's how possession works.
28:13You can't rule out demons.
28:15Yes, you can.
28:16Nolan, look at this.
28:20Six, six, six.
28:21Just like Zuzu said.
28:24It was a weird coincidence.
28:26It was a weird
28:28coincidence.
28:30We found
28:31quite a cocktail of drugs
28:33in your system.
28:34I don't do drugs.
28:36Does pot count?
28:37No, we're talking about
28:38powerful hallucinogens.
28:40I'm not hallucinating.
28:42Ask Bob.
28:44I had them run the test twice
28:46and we found a similar cocktail
28:47in Officer Chen
28:49and Sergeant Bradford.
28:50Mercifully,
28:51none of the drugs
28:52were fat soluble.
28:53Otherwise,
28:54department policy
28:56would have forced
28:56Sergeant Bradford
28:57and Officer Chen
28:58into medical retirement.
29:00Is that what killed Bob?
29:01Whatever drug
29:02they were exposed to?
29:04No.
29:04He was shot
29:05six times in the chest.
29:07Did you get an ID
29:08on the body?
29:09His name was Bob Medina,
29:10a friend reporting him
29:11missing about six months ago.
29:12He was a private investigator.
29:14What was his connection
29:14to the hospital?
29:15At first,
29:16we couldn't find one.
29:17So, to be clear,
29:18there was now
29:19a third killer
29:20associated with that location?
29:21At this point,
29:22it can't be a coincidence.
29:23There has to be something
29:24about that facility
29:25that drives people
29:26towards homicides.
29:27Uh, that's a stretch
29:28and a half.
29:29West View is a hospital
29:30for the mentally ill
29:31and the criminally insane.
29:32Novak was a patient,
29:33Glass was there
29:34looking for a patsy,
29:35and whoever killed Bob
29:36saw an abandoned building
29:37and was like,
29:37that's a perfect place
29:38to dump a body.
29:41What?
29:43Or there was some dark energy
29:45that drew evil to it.
29:46You really believe that?
29:48I'm Catholic.
29:49I was raised on demons
29:50in the battle
29:51against Satan's minions.
29:52Well, I was raised
29:53on the scientific method.
29:55Okay, so if it's
29:56also explainable,
29:57spend the night there.
29:58I dare you.
30:00Pass.
30:01You're scared.
30:02No, I'm not scared.
30:04One could argue
30:05the drugs in the hospital
30:06are hardly surprising,
30:07even hallucinogens.
30:09Over the decades,
30:09they have been used
30:10in experimental medicine.
30:11No, true.
30:12Uh, just the type
30:13and volume
30:14is what set up.
30:15What are you doing?
30:16Conducting an interview.
30:17Could you please
30:18come back in like an hour?
30:19You said you'd talk to me
30:21for my documentary.
30:21You have a documentary?
30:24Well, it's my story.
30:24Who better to tell it?
30:25Well, no problem.
30:26I can sit down with you
30:27just as soon as we're done here.
30:28Oh, I wish.
30:29It has to be exclusive.
30:30You can't do both.
30:32She's right.
30:33It has to be exclusive.
30:34Either you're doing my doc
30:34or you're doing hers,
30:35and we have a long history.
30:37I was almost his daughter-in-law,
30:38so suck it.
30:41I'm gonna have to go with her.
30:42I'm sorry.
30:43Seriously?
30:44I have a BAFTA.
30:47Okay.
30:48Fine.
30:49Let's wrap it up.
30:50This way.
30:50The set's this way.
30:51It's better lighting over there.
30:53We got a great team.
30:54Um, we are gonna need
30:55our mic back.
30:56Yes.
30:56Oh, sorry.
30:57Of course.
30:57We have our own.
30:58Sorry.
30:59I'll see you guys around.
31:00Good luck.
31:01What else I found
31:02inside the secret lab?
31:03Oh, right.
31:04Well, uh,
31:05you did find some paperwork.
31:08Explosive paperwork.
31:10Evidence of a secret
31:11government program.
31:12Close the door softly, please.
31:13Well, I don't know
31:14that we can say that for sure.
31:15Oh, we could.
31:19My name is Abigail Tierney.
31:21I'm currently trapped
31:22inside a secret lab
31:23at Westview Psychiatric.
31:25All attempts at escape
31:26have proven fruitless.
31:27If I'm gonna die here,
31:28I'll leave you this footage
31:29along with my
31:30in-process documentary
31:32as evidence
31:33of my hunt
31:34for the truth
31:35about the evils
31:36that inhabit
31:36this accursed place.
31:40What's this?
31:44Cool.
31:45That's when I realized
31:46I'd uncovered
31:46something more haunting
31:47than any ghost
31:48or serial killer.
31:50I'd uncovered
31:51a conspiracy
31:52that went to
31:53the very highest levels
31:54of our government.
31:56The government files
31:58Abigail found
31:58detailed classified plans
32:01and methods
32:02for human experimentation.
32:04What type of experimentation?
32:06Are you familiar
32:07with MKUltra?
32:08Of course.
32:09It was a top-secret CIA program
32:10in the 50s and 60s
32:12using experimental drugs
32:13to aid in interrogation techniques.
32:15It was straight-up mind control.
32:17I mean,
32:17they used high doses
32:18of psychoactive drugs
32:19like LSD,
32:20sodium pentothal,
32:21which is also known
32:22as a truth serum.
32:24The program ran
32:25from 1953 to 1973
32:28before it was shut down
32:29following a public outcry.
32:31I mean,
32:31all the facilities
32:32were closed.
32:33There's no evidence
32:34the CIA ever used
32:35Westview as a base
32:36of operations,
32:36so what were top-secret
32:38MKUltra documents
32:39doing there?
32:40Good question.
32:41We started digging
32:42into the trobofiles
32:43Abigail had found,
32:44and one name kept popping up
32:45again and again.
32:46Dr. Julius Erickson.
32:49He was one of these
32:50psychologists contracted
32:51by the CIA
32:52to conduct experimental research.
32:55And after MKUltra shut down,
32:57he took a new job.
32:58Director of Westview.
33:00Dr. Erickson ran the hospital
33:01for 20 years,
33:03and from the notes we uncovered,
33:04it seems clear
33:05he continued his own research
33:07in private,
33:07trying to use
33:08the psychological breakthroughs
33:09from MKUltra
33:10to further his own research
33:12into mind-altering drugs.
33:14I assume he used those drugs
33:15on Westview patients?
33:16Yeah, at first.
33:17But then he started
33:18using them on himself,
33:19believing he had found
33:20the key to improving
33:21his own mind.
33:22He hadn't.
33:23And in a last moment
33:24of lucidity,
33:25Erickson decided
33:25to destroy his research.
33:27He dumped the chemicals
33:28outside the building
33:29where they started
33:30to slowly seep
33:31into the structure.
33:32And some of the drugs
33:33were potent enough
33:33to be absorbed
33:34simply by touch,
33:35even when diluted.
33:37Erickson committed himself
33:38to Westview shortly after.
33:40Never said another word.
33:42He died in 2020.
33:43Did the CIA ever find out
33:44what Erickson was doing?
33:46Not that we've found,
33:47but it's not like
33:48the agency ever returns
33:49our phone calls.
33:52Anyone who studied
33:53the past knows
33:54that the CIA
33:55has a history
33:56of violent cover-ups.
33:58MKUltra might have
33:59become public,
34:00but that doesn't mean
34:00there still aren't
34:01secrets to protect.
34:02By uncovering
34:03Dr. Erickson's connection
34:05to Westview
34:05and discovering
34:07Bob's body,
34:08I've put myself
34:09in danger.
34:10But the best way
34:11to protect yourself
34:12is with the truth.
34:14Which brings me
34:14to Carolyn McGrath.
34:16Turns out,
34:17Carolyn is the one
34:18who hired Bob
34:19to go to Westview.
34:20And I need to find out
34:21why before it's too late.
34:23What the hell?
34:35We got lucky.
34:37A woman in the neighborhood
34:38heard a commotion
34:39and filmed
34:40Abigail's abduction.
34:42Thanks to them,
34:42we were able
34:43to track the vehicle.
34:43Where'd it go?
34:44Back to where it all began.
34:46Westview.
34:53Police!
34:54Drop the weapon.
34:55On the ground.
34:57Hands on your head.
34:58Turn around.
34:59Walk towards my partner.
35:00Hands behind your back.
35:02You okay?
35:03Yeah, totally fine.
35:05Carl's going through it, though.
35:07God never really
35:07even knew my mother.
35:08Does anyone?
35:09Really?
35:10What is going on here?
35:11Well, uh,
35:12my friend Carl here
35:13was being pressured
35:14into killing me.
35:16Um, but then we got
35:16to talking, right?
35:17Yeah, and I couldn't.
35:19Yeah.
35:19We could be pressured
35:19by who?
35:21Um, my boss.
35:23Meg Davidson.
35:25Who?
35:25The current director
35:26at Westview Psychiatric.
35:30But she started working
35:32at the hospital
35:32long after Julius Erickson
35:34went mad,
35:34and she has no links
35:35to the CIA,
35:36so why would she try
35:37to kill Abigail?
35:38To cover up Bob's murder.
35:39And who killed Bob?
35:41Can you introduce yourself?
35:43Oh, yes.
35:44My name is Caroline McGrath.
35:45You hired my friend
35:47Bob Medina
35:48because you had questions
35:49about your friend
35:50Winona's treatment
35:51at Westview, right?
35:52Yes.
35:53Of course, everyone thought
35:53I was just being paranoid,
35:55but Bob didn't.
35:57And it got him killed.
35:58You work with
35:59Winona Baker, right?
36:00Yes.
36:00Um, she was hospitalized
36:02with depression
36:03by her daughter.
36:05Seemed like therapy
36:06and some medication
36:08would help her,
36:08but Winona got worse
36:10fast.
36:11Lost track of reality.
36:13She exhibited signs
36:15of psychosis,
36:17paranoia, dissociation.
36:19By that point,
36:20I wondered whether
36:20a transfer to a new facility
36:22might be in her best interest.
36:24And then?
36:24Uh, the director
36:25informed me
36:26that Winona's family
36:27had gotten a judge
36:28to order a conservatorship,
36:30and they wanted her to stay
36:31for good.
36:32You were suspicious.
36:34Winona always had her funks,
36:36but she wasn't crazy
36:37until that place
36:39made her lose her mind.
36:40And that proved
36:41to be the break you needed.
36:42Yeah, when we started
36:43looking into it,
36:44it turned out
36:45a significant number
36:46of Westview patients
36:47were wealthy,
36:49and a high percentage
36:50were ordered
36:50into conservatorship.
36:52You know,
36:52conservatorship
36:53is extremely difficult
36:54to get for an adult
36:55because of the potential
36:56abuse of power.
36:58It gives one party
36:59legal authority
37:00over certain aspects
37:01of another person's life,
37:02including managing
37:03all of their assets.
37:04It's like what happened
37:05to Britney Spears.
37:06Manage their assets.
37:08Rich persons speak
37:08for controlling
37:09someone else's money.
37:10Yes.
37:11And money makes people
37:13do crazy things.
37:15Like, um,
37:16poison their family member's
37:17water with a chemical cocktail
37:19so potent it has the potential
37:20to permanently damage
37:21the human psyche?
37:25Yeah.
37:26Just like that.
37:28I was supposed to inherit,
37:30but, um,
37:30after my
37:32break with reality,
37:34my dad cut me off
37:35and, uh,
37:36my brother got everything.
37:37What's everything?
37:38Oh, about, um,
37:40$12 million.
37:41Must have been hard
37:42going from that kind
37:42of wealth to nannying.
37:44Oh, no.
37:44No, it was a blessing.
37:46I,
37:47I really think
37:48that helping children
37:49was my calling.
37:51Hmm.
37:51Once we found the pattern,
37:53we started interviewing
37:53some of the families.
37:54A little pressure,
37:55and they cracked.
37:56And with the search warrant,
37:58we found the gun used
37:59to kill Bop Adina
38:00and director Davidson's closet.
38:01She'd been running
38:02her scam for a decade.
38:04Turns out she was
38:05Dr. Erickson's therapist
38:06in the last years
38:08of his life.
38:08He must have told her
38:10about his experiments.
38:11In exploring
38:12his old lab,
38:14she'd uncovered
38:14the tainted water,
38:15realized its potential.
38:17Yeah, we had her on
38:18murder, fraud,
38:20elder abuse,
38:21kidnapping,
38:22attempted murder,
38:23poisoning.
38:24Miss Davidson,
38:24would you like
38:24to make a comment?
38:26You know,
38:27this might be
38:27your last chance
38:28to tell your side
38:29of the story.
38:31Hey, look at all
38:32these people watching.
38:34The state ordered
38:35a full investigation
38:36into every conservatorship
38:38Westview ordered.
38:39God willing,
38:39the victims will get
38:40their rights and assets back.
38:42And Westview itself
38:43has been closed for good.
38:45But the lawsuits
38:46are just starting,
38:47not to mention
38:47the rest of the legal
38:48ramifications.
38:49I'm, I'm glad
38:50this is getting
38:51so much attention.
38:52These poor,
38:53abused patients
38:54can finally get justice.
38:56Do you think
38:56it could impact
38:57your case at all?
38:58Certainly it gives
38:59my defense
38:59a fresh coat of paint.
39:01The jury won't
39:02listen to reason
39:03because I am innocent.
39:05Perhaps they will
39:06listen to the tragic
39:07story of a simple
39:08tradesman falling
39:11victim to a poisoned
39:12environment that
39:13chemically affected
39:15my psyche.
39:16And what did
39:18that environment
39:19make you do?
39:20Who can say?
39:21Certainly not me.
39:22I, I wasn't
39:24in my right mind.
39:25Yeah, the, um,
39:27the poisoned water
39:28was only found
39:29in the abandoned
39:30psych ward.
39:31No vending machines
39:31left to fill there.
39:32Right?
39:33At this point,
39:34I must confess,
39:36I did go inside
39:38that abandoned ward
39:38back when I was a kid.
39:40My father's warnings,
39:42they didn't scare me away.
39:43They only made me
39:44more desperate to see
39:45and whatever lurked
39:47inside
39:48must have infected me.
39:57Glasser's claiming
39:58that the presence
39:59of those drugs
40:00would absolve him
40:01of any alleged
40:01responsibility
40:02for the murders.
40:03There's no way
40:04that defense is going
40:04to work.
40:05We have Glasser
40:05dead to rights.
40:06Are you sure about that?
40:10Yeah.
40:10Hey, hey,
40:24sorry,
40:25I know we talked
40:26about me not
40:26recording interviews
40:27in here,
40:28but Raj mentioned
40:29he needed a space
40:30with great acoustics
40:31and, um,
40:32and you know,
40:33we're actually,
40:33we're shutting it down.
40:34We're shutting it down.
40:35Shut it, shut it down.
40:36Shutting it down.
40:36Copy.
40:37Hi, sorry,
40:40she said this was cool.
40:41You're gonna help me
40:41get these in the van,
40:42right?
40:42Yeah, I'll,
40:42I'll be right there.
40:45Next time,
40:47handcuffs and squad cars.
40:48Yeah,
40:48totally understandable.
40:52Thanks again
40:53for going exclusive
40:53with me.
40:54Seriously,
40:55this talk is gonna be huge.
40:57I hope so.
40:57You deserve something good
40:58after what you've been through.
41:00How you holding up?
41:01Oh, I'm fine.
41:03I'm happy to have
41:04something to focus on.
41:05Well,
41:06I've been through
41:06some scary times.
41:07I have been guilty
41:09of using my work
41:10as my therapy,
41:11but if there's,
41:12uh,
41:12there's ever a time
41:13you need someone
41:13to talk to.
41:14Thank you,
41:15really,
41:15but I already have
41:16a great therapist.
41:18One with zero history
41:19at Westview.
41:20Excellent.
41:22You know,
41:23there's still something
41:23I can't figure out.
41:24How did you know
41:26that the PI
41:27was working
41:28before Caroline McGrath?
41:29Oh,
41:30Bob told me
41:31while we were
41:31stuck in the lab.
41:33He got chatty
41:34once he opened up.
41:35I have that effect
41:36on people.
41:39We had to come back
41:40because our job
41:41isn't finished.
41:41This hospital
41:42has housed killers,
41:43evil experiments,
41:44and perhaps
41:44the supernatural.
41:46Our job
41:47as investigators
41:47is to collect
41:48and present questions
41:49and possibilities.
41:51Interpretation,
41:52however,
41:53solely belongs
41:54with you.
41:55Did Westview
41:55really?
42:03Should we check
42:04that out?
42:05I might be good.
42:07You know what?
42:09Me too.
42:12Oh!
42:13God!
42:14Oh, God!
42:16I'm very good
42:17at what I do.
42:19Nothing good
42:19comes without risks.
42:20I don't drink
42:22to that.
42:24Hold on.
42:25Did you say
42:26arrow?
42:28An all-new
42:28tracker,
42:29Sunday on CTV.
42:34Dammit.
42:35I don't know.
42:36I don't know.
42:36I don't know.
42:37I don't know.
42:38I don't know.
42:39I don't know.
42:39I don't know.
42:40I don't know.
42:40I don't know.
42:40I don't know.
42:41I don't know.
42:41I don't know.
42:41I don't know.
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42:42I don't know.
42:42I don't know.
42:42I don't know.
42:42I don't know.
42:43I don't know.
42:43I don't know.
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42:43I don't know.
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42:44I don't know.
42:44I don't know.
42:44I don't know.
42:45I don't know.
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42:46I don't know.
42:46I don't know.
42:47I don't know.