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00:00Was it expected or totally unexpected?
00:03I slightly disagree with your previous guest.
00:08I think that it was quite clear to me that the man was very sick.
00:14Nobody knew when he would die, but it felt yesterday when he was giving his message to Rome and the world
00:23and when he then sat in his Pope Mobile and went through the crowds that he was really in pain and unwell.
00:32So in a sense, at 88, after 13 years as Pope, I think the man can now rest in eternal peace.

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