Former UK Minister of State for Europe Denis MacShane says Putin is manipulating Trump, essentially “giving him the finger.” #Putin #Trump
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00:00Just lastly, I mean, just reading the commentators and the editorials in the Italian press,
00:05some of them warning that this visit by Mrs. Maloney isn't without risk.
00:11One commentator said it's full of potential pitfalls.
00:15I mean, do you think they've got in mind in Italy and perhaps in lots of other European countries,
00:20this fear that perhaps they'll have an Oval Office situation like the one that President Zelensky had?
00:26No, I don't think so at all.
00:27I mean, that's something quite different in that Donald Trump said incessantly,
00:32I mean, since Putin invaded Ukraine in 2022 to now three years ago,
00:41he said, if I was president, not Joe Biden, this war would never have happened.
00:45I would have solved it. I would have settled it.
00:48And of course, he has been president now for a good chunk of time.
00:52And absolutely nothing's happened.
00:54I mean, Putin is playing him like a fool.
00:57Embarrassing him.
00:58And Putin's attack on a civilian area, Sumi, killing 35 people, including children.
01:05That was giving the finger to Donald Trump.
01:08And the Italians understand what giving the finger is in Italian as in any other language.
01:14I want to let him know that organised it again.
01:18I want toихrate him with speech, but I believe it's not.
01:21I don't know if I did think that was very nice, but he got a proof-