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00:00But the latest figures I've seen show that the numbers of reported, admittedly, violent crimes, according to the FBI,
00:08has actually fallen steadily since the year 1990.
00:11In particular last year, there was a, sorry, in 2023, there was a downturn in the number of reported crimes.
00:17So you're talking about shoplifting, but surely a shoplifter wouldn't end up in a prison in El Salvador, would they?
00:24I'm talking about crime in general, and those FBI statistics have been debunked.
00:28I think this was discussed during the debate with J.D. Vance and Tim Walts.
00:35And they used these FBI statistics, and then they later came back and changed them.