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00:00It took a lot. It took a lot for me not to, not to put my hands on it.
00:08Let me go to December 12, 2022. Shannon, I want you to see this video right here.
00:14This is you and Skip getting into it about Tom Brady.
00:18Take a look at this as a fresh reminder.
00:20You have no objectivity. It's just straight Brady hate.
00:23Wait a minute. This is just straight hate by a guy who's jealous
00:27that he is still playing at a high level at 45 when you had to stop at 35.
00:31Skip, that's what you do. That's the point.
00:32That's what you do. Every time somebody, every time I call something in question, I'm jealous.
00:37No. I never said you were jealous of Baker Mayfield.
00:40Skip, I did what I did. You make it seem like I was a bum. I'm in the effing Hall of Fame.
00:44So what? He's way better than you were.
00:48I'm better than you. See what you do? You take personal shots.
00:52No, I don't take personal shots. You started it.
00:55Time out. You would take a personal shot at me.
00:57I didn't take a personal shot at you.
00:59Wait a minute.
01:00What are you talking about?
01:01You would take a personal shot.
01:02Put your glasses back on.
01:04Can I finish?
01:05You're willing to take a personal shot at me to say this man is better than me
01:09because I say he's playing bad this year?
01:11Well, because you disrespect him.
01:14It's just so, you know what?
01:17It's beneath your dignity.
01:18You would just respect me to support him.
01:20No. Well, I'll support him over anybody because he's the greatest player who ever played your game
01:24and it's by far.
01:25Have at it. Take off, bro.
01:26I'm going to have at it because I'm going to have at you.
01:28You see that video right there, Shannon, months later.
01:33When I saw that, that relationship is in a world of trouble.
01:38As you reflect back on that moment, what goes through your mind
01:42and how much trouble was the relationship between you two in at that particular moment?
01:51There were a lot of that is my fault because there were times that led up to that
01:58that I felt that shots were taken and I let it go.
02:03And I should have said something then, but I didn't.
02:06And I would bring it to people's attention and they brushed it up under the rug.
02:11So that was my fault that it got to that point.
02:13And he felt that he could go over the top in that situation.
02:17I think in any relationship where there's host, co-host, it's boyfriend, girlfriend,
02:23it's husband, wife, whatever the relationship is, once one partner
02:27has no respect for the other, the other partner then in turn loses respect for said partner.
02:37Then I think it's only a matter of time.
02:39Because I felt in that moment, he had lost all respect for me.
02:43He had no respect for me.
02:45And for him to feel that he was trapped and he was losing a debate to attack me personally.
02:51When I've stood up, when guys have come on that show and tried to attack him personally,
02:57I was his bodyguard.
02:59I took the blows and said, hey, this is undisputed.
03:02Skip and Shannon, this is not yours.
03:05So I was very hurt and disappointed that he chose to go there with me when I've been one
03:14of the guys that's been in his corner.
03:16So it really, really hurt me.
03:18Had the shoe been on the other foot, what would have been the outcome?
03:21Had I attacked him personally live on television, what would have happened?
03:26You can say I'm loud.
03:28You can say I'm obnoxious.
03:29You can say I'm arrogant, but to try to poo-poo my career, a seventh rounder that started out
03:37on special teams and played so well that I got into the Hall of Fame, to try to minimize
03:42that was very disheartening for me.
03:46And I didn't think, look, someone that I don't know discredited in my career, I'm cool with
03:51that.
03:52I can live with that.
03:53But someone that I considered a friend, or maybe, or we were friendly, but I considered
04:00Skip a friend, for you to take that kind of personal shot at me, it really hurt me, Stephen.
04:05It really did.
04:05It hurts more when someone that you know, someone that you trust, someone that you think
04:11or a friend would betray you or say something to you to that effect.
04:15People have heard me on Undisputed, on other shows, Gronk was a better tight end than me.
04:22I mean, Travis Kelsey, Gates, okay, I'm cool with that.
04:25Right.
04:26All I could do was get the best out of my God-given ability.
04:29But for him to take a shot like that because he's losing the debate, and everybody knows
04:34Tom Brady didn't play well, it was the 49ers game.
04:36Yeah.
04:36I think the score was 28-0 at the half, or maybe 35-0.
04:39They were obliterated at that.
04:41Yeah.
04:41Yeah.
04:42So everybody knew, but to try to, oh, you were nothing, and you're jealous of Tom Brady.
04:51Why?
04:51Why would I be jealous of Tom Brady?
04:53I'm happy that Tom, Tom was like me, given an opportunity.
04:58I've done things for people.
05:01You will never know unless they tell you.
05:04I don't mention it.
05:06I don't care.
05:08That's where I am.
05:10I just refuse to be a slave to loyalty and allow people to walk all over me because they've
05:16done something good for me.
05:19All I ask, all I've ever asked from anyone was to give me the level of respect that I've
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