Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s recent visit to Nagpur, where he addressed the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) on its 100th anniversary, brought to the forefront the enduring connection between the RSS and India’s political structure. Having joined the RSS at the young age of 8, Modi’s personal ties with the organization have remained steadfast, even as he ascended to the nation’s top political office. This visit highlights the intertwined relationship between the RSS and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), both of which share a common ideological foundation. Nagpur, which once stood as a stronghold of opposition to the RSS, has now emerged as a significant base for political leaders aligned with its ideology. During his trip, Modi paid tribute at key sites like Smriti Mandir and Deeksha Bhoomi, reinforcing his commitment to principles such as social justice and cultural harmony. With the RSS continuing to focus on promoting Hindu nationalism and fostering social development, its influence remains central to several major policies and initiatives of the Modi administration. Despite ongoing critiques of its ideological impact, the RSS’s role in shaping the country’s cultural and social framework remains undeniable. As both the RSS and BJP evolve, their partnership will continue to play a pivotal role in shaping India's socio-political future, with a vision of a united, inclusive, and culturally enriched nation.
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00:00Prime Minister Narendra Modi is in Nagpur and the eyes of the world are fixed on him.
00:03When PM Modi will give his speech on RSS from the ground of Nagpur,
00:07then his feelings will be expressed in the form of Narendra Modi,
00:11who joined RSS at the age of 8 and has not looked back since then.
00:17Narendra Modi has a political journey with many ups and downs,
00:22but with this emotional bond and you think about RSS,
00:27when RSS was banned three times from Rai Sinha Hills,
00:31Narendra Modi and the faces of all the bigwigs of RSS are present at the same time.
00:38And with this you can understand how powerful RSS is in today's date,
00:43when he is going to complete 100 years of his establishment on this victory.
00:48He is celebrating the centenary.
00:49Here, let me tell you, Prime Minister Narendra Modi first went to Smriti Mandir,
00:53wrote his feelings about Dr. Hedgewar there and then went to Diksha Bhoomi,
00:58and there the Prime Minister wrote about Babasaheb Bhimrao Ambedkar,
01:23and this gives him the energy to move forward with the system of justice.
01:27The Prime Minister further writes that in this auspicious time,
01:30we will take the country to the new peak of progress by following the teachings and values of Babasaheb Ambedkar.
01:36The creation of a developed and prosperous India will be our true devotion to Babasaheb.
01:42After that, the Prime Minister signs his signature.
01:45And we are showing you these two different pictures.
01:48First, when Smriti went to the temple,
01:5111 years later, Narendra Modi reaches the RSS office there.
01:55And because of this, a lot of discussion is being done today.
01:58But Mr. Rakesh Shukla, you have seen the centenary very closely.
02:01And both people have written the whole book.
02:05Mr. Rakesh Shukla, you have seen the RSS very closely.
02:08I want to know from you that when the 500-year dream of the RSS Brahm Mandir was fulfilled,
02:14you had to end it with the annulment of Article 370.
02:18You succeeded in that.
02:20Now, what is the agenda of the RSS?
02:22What are the dreams that the RSS officials have seen and want to see fulfilled in the years to come?
02:30Look, if you look at the Indian government or the governments in the state,
02:34the focus of all the governments is on social development.
02:40All the schemes of the central government,
02:42when we talk about Muslims again and again,
02:45we see that there is no discrimination in the schemes of the central government or the state government.
02:52Whether it is the matter of giving five kilos of grains,
02:55whether it is the Prime Minister's housing scheme,
02:57whether it is the schemes that are going on in all the states like Lalli Behan,
03:01whether it is the Swobhagya scheme, whether it is the Ujjwala scheme,
03:04it is not said anywhere that the Muslim community, the Muslim family will be deprived of these schemes.
03:10Whereas, the Indian People's Party knows,
03:13the Sangh also knows,
03:14the government also knows that the Muslim community avoids voting.
03:19Even after this, they are constantly trying to change the minds of the Muslim community today or tomorrow.
03:27There is a figure in which 8% of Muslims voted for the BJP in 2014-19,
03:32but this time it becomes 6% in 2024.
03:35There is a reason for that.
03:36Like you just mentioned, politically.
03:40Look, there are two methods.
03:42One is social policy and the other is politics.
03:45In politics, all kinds of topics are in discussion right now.
03:50Whether it is Babar or Aurangzeb,
03:52why are all these things brought up?
03:54It is brought up so that on the one hand we can bring Muslims together
03:58and on the other hand, we can bring up the issue of caste politics.
04:02We are trying to divide the unity of Hindus,
04:06that is, the effort of unity, and we can do politics by voting.
04:11Now, a question is coming to us quickly after seeing these pictures, Mr. Rakesh.
04:14The question is that when Atal Bihari Bajpayee became the Prime Minister,
04:18in 1999, the Indian People's Party got the most 182 seats under his leadership.
04:22When Narendra Modi came to power,
04:24he got 282 seats in 2014 and 303 seats in 2019.
04:30And we are showing you these pictures.
04:32Look, Madhav Netralaya has reached Shillania Samaru on 30th March 2029.
04:36The pictures of Prime Minister Narendra Modi are coming up.
04:39Mr. Rakesh, I would like you to shed some light on this.
04:41Nitin Gadkari is also sitting here.
04:43Yes, all the people associated with Madhav Netralaya are sitting here.
04:48The Prime Minister is sitting in the middle.
04:50Mr. Nitin Gadkari is sitting here, as you can see.
04:52There is Mr. Bhaiyari Joshi, who is the head of the committee.
04:55Here is the Chief Minister, Mr. Devendra Farnaveer.
04:58In the middle, next to Mr. Modi, is our co-chairman, Mr. Mohan Bhagwat.
05:03So, this program is about to begin.
05:05Just now, we were discussing what the Prime Minister will say here.
05:08We talked about two stages.
05:10When in 2024, in Ayodhya, Mr. Modi and Mr. Mohan shared a stage,
05:14it was a religious stage.
05:16And when we are sharing the stage of Madhav Netralaya,
05:19it is a social stage.
05:20Definitely, both of them will try to give a new message of social development here.
05:27Mr. Mohan and Mr. Modi.
05:29Madhav Netralaya is the new expansion building of the I-Institute.
05:33And let's quickly give information about it.
05:35The hospital built in 2014 is being expanded.
05:38It has been built in the memory of Golwalkar.
05:40With the expansion of the 250-bed hospital,
05:42cheap treatment will be provided.
05:4314 OPDs and 14 operation theatres will also be built here.
05:47And you can see that the way RSS works in different groups and in different areas,
05:52it is an expansion of that.
05:54And here, Mr. Mohan Bhagwat is also sitting.
05:56Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Nitin Badkari,
05:58and you are also seeing all the other faces.
06:00Mr. Vijay Trivedi is coming to you now.
06:03But here, questions are being asked in 100 years,
06:05how he is bringing change inside him.
06:07But whenever the Prime Minister meets Mr. Mohan Bhagwat,
06:11some pictures come to him.
06:12But surely, it will be right
06:14that there are many such pictures that we do not get,
06:17the media, so that we can tell our viewers.
06:19So how to manage the government?
06:22Will they be given tips about this?
06:25Because who will become the Chief Minister in the political world?
06:28Do they have the support or not?
06:29Here, RSS wants to make him the Chief Minister.
06:34So there is a discussion about that.
06:35Regarding the President,
06:36recently we have read the names of many faces,
06:39some have the support of RSS, some do not.
06:41So it comes to those issues,
06:43but what tips will be given about running the government?
06:45I don't think any tips are given there.
06:48In fact, it should be understood that both have understood their limits.
06:53What is the agenda of the Sangh?
06:54How can the government move forward on the cultural and social ideas of the Sangh?
07:00This thought has to be understood there.
07:02The pictures that we talk about again and again,
07:03the pictures that do not come to them.
07:05It is the same that in a family,
07:07do you take pictures every day in your house?
07:09By the way, taking pictures has become a lot of fashion these days.
07:12It is a family.
07:13Where do they meet every day?
07:15Not every day, but whenever they meet,
07:17it is not necessary that the picture is not important.
07:19Because meeting them...
07:20It must be very important for their people,
07:22for the workers, for their safety, it must be very important.
07:25Earlier, we used to say that Nagpur has remote control.
07:30When the BJP government was in power,
07:34Nagpur had remote control.
07:35Now the era of remote control is over.
07:37This is what we talk about.
07:38I am saying that from the Sangh's point of view,
07:40it is wrong to think that they are giving direction.
07:43They don't sit with a stick and say that you have to do this.
07:47Their thoughts are conveyed to you.
07:50This is the thought.
07:51Like the Zikr Sangh does,
07:53and the Bharatiya Janta Party also does,
07:55the construction of the Ram Mandir is also a part of the Bhakti movement.
07:58And it is a part of the social development,
08:00the development of the nation.
08:02It is not just the construction of the temple.
08:04So the Bhakti movement awakens a social consciousness.
08:07Social consciousness becomes the consciousness of the nation.
08:10This is what they are talking about there.
08:12To reach this point of slavery,
08:15our social consciousness,
08:16the Bhakti movement has played an important role in this.
08:19The Bhakti movement does not need to be linked to religion.
08:22It is a movement for social change.
08:24It is also trying to stop the cultural destruction.
08:28What about the cultural nation?
08:30What is being discussed here in detail?
08:32Of course, we are talking about the cultural nation.
08:36We have already discussed this.
08:39Hindu Rashtra means that there is no intention of change in the constitution.
08:43It means that we have to work on the cultural consciousness of the nation.
08:50But Vijayji, I want to say something about the constitution of India.
08:54The BJP and the RSS have been surrounding everyone.
08:56But in the constitution,
08:58there have been some minor changes made by the Congress Party as well.
09:02It is not that Baba Sahib Bheemrao Ambedkar
09:04has made the constitution as it is without making any changes.
09:08That is right.
09:10The changes that took place in the 42nd amendment,
09:15in the form of secularism and socialism,
09:17apart from that, the changes are called reform.
09:20If you look at the Constituent Assembly,
09:22Ambedkar Sahib said that whenever there is a need,
09:25there should be a change.
09:27There is a need for it.
09:28He also said that there is no such thing as a good constitution or a bad constitution.
09:32If a good constitution is in the hands of a bad leadership,
09:35then its results will be bad.
09:36And if it is a bad constitution and the leadership is good,
09:39then changes can be made in it.
09:40So, I am saying something else.
09:42When we talk about the Hindu nation,
09:44it seems that Bhagwa Jhanda is going to be placed on Rai Sinha Ahil.
09:48No, for the flag, we had to face a lot of criticism.
09:52That it was not easy with the Tiranga flag.
09:54But there is a long story behind it.
09:56People will not mention it.
09:57We connected Hindutva directly with the worship.
10:00We do not believe in the Supreme Court.
10:02The Supreme Court has clarified the definition of Hindutva.
10:05And the definition given by the Supreme Court
10:07is the same that is being followed by the cultural nation.
10:11It is a lifestyle.
10:12Yes, of course.
10:13And what we did was to make the Hindu temple a temple.
10:16To worship.
10:17Our Islam will be in danger.
10:19Bhagwa Jhanda.
10:19Yes, Bhagwa Jhanda will happen.
10:20Our churches will be destroyed.
10:22Our mosques will be destroyed.
10:23Hindutva is not that.
10:25Hindutva is how we are living in it.
10:28Way of life.
10:31Way of life.
11:58If he becomes the Chief Minister of this state,
12:01then that name comes.
12:02So, what everyone wants, it happens.
12:04You yourself mentioned that Narendra Modi's name
12:08was put forward by Mohan Bhagwat.
12:09Because it was necessary at that time.
12:11He had convinced Advani ji for this.
12:15It was necessary at that time.
12:17The Sangh says that when we are asked for suggestions.
12:20A group from the Bharatiya Janata Party asked that we need it today.
12:24Because we have lost the 2004-2009 elections continuously.
12:28The 2014 elections are about to come.
12:30What should we do?
12:31The Sangh says that whenever the BJP asks us for suggestions,
12:34we give them suggestions.
12:36What is being said about the President from the Sangh?
12:39I think there must have been an agreement between the two.
12:44Now the thing is,
12:46because there can't be an introduction like here in Rajasthan,
12:49that's why both of them must have been weighing each other's minds.
12:53And there is a possibility of such an agreement
12:55in the name of one of the two.
12:57That's why it's taking so long
12:58so that it can be discussed in detail.
13:03And then the name should come forward.
13:05Because recently,
13:06there was a lot of discussion about the words of one of the Presidents
13:11that he had said about RSS.
13:13The Sangh will not give the name of the President.
13:16But the Sangh will not give suggestions.
13:19Without the Sangh's consent,
13:21the President will not be formed.
13:22That's right.
13:24The Sangh has a rejection style.
13:29What?
13:29That the BJP is suggesting some names,
13:32and the Sangh is rejecting them.
13:33They are not even rejecting them directly.
13:34Like, tell us more names.
13:35Then tell us more names.
13:37Then tell us more names.
13:38So when they tell us more names,
13:39it means that the previous names are being rejected.
13:42If the Sangh is so politically incapable,
13:45then why is this not accepted?
13:48That's what it is.
13:48Because they want to remain as a cultural and social organization.
13:52But I don't agree with this.
13:53Because the Sangh is completely involved in the Indian People's Party.
13:57And when you consider a family,
13:59if you see it as a mother,
14:00then it's not up to the son to talk to her or tell her.
14:04Now, it is up to the Sangh and the BJP,
14:06or the Sangh in general,
14:08to decide how to give this relationship,
14:10this relationship,
14:10as an option.
14:12Thank you both very much for being a part of our discussion.