Pemerintah siap menyelenggarakan ibadah haji 2025, di mana kuota yang diberikan Pemerintah Arab Saudi tahun ini sebanyak 220.000 jemaah. Hingga saat ini sebanyak 161.136 jemaah reguler telah melunasi biaya haji tahun ini.
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00:39Special Dialogue with the Government of Saudi Arabia
00:44The government's election is ready to hold the 2025 Hajj,
00:48where the Saudi government has given 220,000 Friday prayers.
00:54Until today, 161,136 regular prayers have paid off this year's Hajj expenses.
01:02Special Dialogue with the Government of Saudi Arabia
01:07On Eid al-Adha, the government began preparing for the implementation of Hajj 1446 Hijri in 2025.
01:15A total of 221,000 Friday prayers have been given by the Saudi Arabian government to Indonesia in this year's Hajj season.
01:23Special Dialogue with the Government of Saudi Arabia
01:27For this year, the government has officially set the average cost to be paid by Friday prayers as much as Rp 55,431,000
01:35or as much as 62% of the travel expenses for Hajj or Bipi in 2025.
01:43Meanwhile, the total cost of performing Hajj or BPIH is set at Rp 89,410,000.
01:53This figure shows a reduction of Rp 4 million compared to BPIH in 2024, which reached Rp 93,410,000.
02:03Special Dialogue with the Government of Saudi Arabia
02:06The Minister of Religious Affairs, Nasaruddin Umar, hopes that the body of the Hajj volunteers,
02:10the body of the Hajj finance manager, and the stakeholders will coordinate each other to improve the quality of services, security, and safety of the Indonesian Friday prayers.
02:22The second is the limit of the number of Friday prayers.
02:27I predict that there will be a shortage because of many factors.
02:31How can we replace the shortage without creating a new crucial point?
02:41Because what will happen to the combination of mahram?
02:45How can we make sure that there won't be a shortage of toys?
02:50We don't want to waste history.
02:53Special Dialogue with the Government of Saudi Arabia
02:56On the other hand, this year's Hajj prayer has also set a total of 221,000 Friday prayers.
03:04This is in accordance with Article 64, Verse 2, Law No. 8 of 2019 on the prohibition of Hajj and Umrah.
03:12The city is divided into two, namely the regular Hajj city of 203,320 Friday prayers and the special Hajj city of 17,680 Friday prayers.
03:26Meanwhile, until March 14, 2025, as many as 161,136 regular Friday prayers have paid off this year's Hajj fee.
03:36From Jakarta Tim Liputan, Aidek Channel
03:43And to discuss our interesting topic this time, R.I. Syah, the host of Hajj 2025, has been connected via Zoom with Mr. Firman M. Nur,
03:52General Director of the Muslim Association, Host of Hajj and Umrah of the Republic of Indonesia, or AMPURI.
03:58We will go straight to him.
04:00Assalamualaikum, Mr. Firman, how are you, sir?
04:03Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Alhamdulillah, I'm fine.
04:07Thank you, Mr. Firman, for taking the time on Aidek Channel.
04:11But we are quite interested, sir, this is also related to the expansion of Hajj, especially in 2025.
04:17Let's just go straight to the first question.
04:20From AMPURI's point of view, what is the implementation of Hajj worship in Indonesia so far?
04:27The first is Hajj 2025, or in the year of 1446 Hijri, is a much better preparation than the previous year.
04:43Because of the sincerity of the Saudi Arabian government.
04:46On this occasion, I would like to appreciate the Saudi Arabian government,
04:50which has ensured the strength of Indonesia at the beginning of the Hajj season.
04:54As we know, at the time of the implementation of Hajj last year, on the 12th of July,
05:01the Saudi Minister of Hajj had given the quota to the Indonesian Minister of Hajj.
05:06At that time, the number had been set at 221,000.
05:11This is much more advanced than a few years earlier,
05:13where the quota setting for Indonesia was given about five months before the implementation of Hajj.
05:19This means that Indonesia should be more ready and more early,
05:23because the strength of certainty has been given earlier.
05:25Second, the Saudi Arabian government also sets the date of the process
05:32for the completion of the contract, accommodation, transportation, consumption, etc.
05:38The time limit is also earlier.
05:40Then, including this year, the time limit to issue the Hajj visa is much earlier.
05:46Which has been set, God willing, on the 13th of April,
05:50or in accordance with the 15th of Shawwal,
05:53all the Hajj visas that will depart from Indonesia,
05:56the number of which is 221,000, must have completed the visa process.
06:02This means that almost three weeks before departure,
06:07all visa processes have been completed.
06:08Which in previous years was not like this,
06:12not determined and not faster.
06:14And we hope that the date setting and the acceleration of the administration process, etc.,
06:21will also be followed by a more mature preparation process
06:25for the Indonesian government, which holds and arranges around 203,000,
06:31and also the special Hajj carried out by the PHK as much as 17,680.
06:37We, on this occasion, may be able to update in detail, sir,
06:41about the special Hajj.
06:42Because Ampuri is an association that brings hundreds of volunteers to the special Hajj,
06:47which this year will also hold the special Hajj.
06:50Until today, Alhamdulillah,
06:52we are at the stage of finishing all the contracts, accommodation, transportation, and consumption
06:59in Saudi Arabia,
07:00which the time limit must be completed by March 25th.
07:12It means that in the next few days, all the contracts must be completed.
07:16After March 25th, until April 15th,
07:21which coincides with April 13th,
07:23around two weeks,
07:25we also have to finish the visa process.
07:27And Alhamdulillah, from the preparation of Ampuri members, everything is going well.
07:31We see the timeline and how many processes have been completed.
07:34Inshallah, the time limit given by the Saudi Arabian government
07:37for the completion of the contract until March 25th will be completed.
07:41It is also funny that until the third peak, April 13th,
07:45the visa process, Inshallah, we at the special Hajj will also be able to complete it
07:48according to the time set by Saudi Arabia.
07:51Mr. Firman, the improvements made by the Saudi Arabian government
07:55is this an input from the Indonesian government
07:58or an initiative from the Saudi Arabian government itself, Mr. Firman?
08:02Saudi Arabia, in doing an evaluation, is very open to accepting input,
08:09including cases that become obstacles in the implementation stage.
08:15As we know, the Hajj event is the largest event in the world
08:18where millions of people do the same activity in the same place.
08:23And the movement from one point to another
08:25also at times when the count is not days but hours.
08:28And it is always done in a good evaluation.
08:31Alhamdulillah, the increase in services during the Hajj in Indonesia
08:35every year also increases and the level of satisfaction also increases.
08:40We hope that the better and the openness
08:44conveyed by the Saudi Arabian government
08:47about the input and evaluation from us will be strengthened.
08:50And we also hope that things that become obstacles will not happen again next year.
08:55Mr. Firman, it is interesting. We will discuss later.
08:58We will try to review the issue of preparation,
09:01the transition from the Ministry of Religion to the body of the Hajj supporters.
09:05Does this also support the smoothness of the implementation of the Hajj this year?
09:09We will review later. We will discuss later.
09:11And we will be right back.
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09:30Still in special dialogue, Mr. Mirsa, and before we continue the discussion,
09:33we will deliver some graphic information that was successfully collected by our team.
09:38Let's just go straight to the first graphic, the Jemah Haji quota in 2025.
09:43You can see the graphics on your television screen, Mr. Mirsa.
09:46The regular quota is 203,320.
09:50The Jemah Haji quota is 221,000.
09:53The special quota is 17,680.
09:58To the next graphic, we will try to see the implementation of the Hajj budget in 2025.
10:03Based on Law No. 8 of 2019, Article 64, Verse 2.
10:08There is BIPIH, the position of the Jemah Haji quota.
10:15You can see it in the graphics on your television screen.
10:17And then there is also the BPIH category.
10:20Then the decrease position related to the Jemah Haji quota in 2025.
10:27To the next graphic, we will try to see, Mr. Mirsa.
10:30To the next graphic, we will try to see, Mr. Mirsa.
10:31The Jemah Haji quota in 2025 until March 14, 2025.
10:36There are 161,136 regular Jemah Haji quotas.
10:39Then the Jemah Haji quota has the right to increase.
10:42Then the Jemah Haji quota continues to be a priority.
10:44And also the number of Haji officers is around 2,000.
10:48The source is from the Ministry of Religion.
10:50And hopefully it can be one of your references.
10:54Okay, let's continue our discussion with Mr. Firman M. Nur, General Chairman of the DPP Ampuri.
11:00Mr. Firman, let's continue, sir.
11:02Before we review the implementation, Mr. Firman.
11:05From the city's point of view, what does Ampuri assess with the establishment of this year's quota?
11:10Yes, according to Law No. 8 of 2019 on the Jemah Haji and Jemah Umrah,
11:17the national quota is divided into two portions.
11:21One portion is for regular Haji as much as 92% of the national quota,
11:27which is currently 221,000.
11:30Meaning with 92%, the government or regular Haji will get around 203,320 Jemah.
11:40While our special Haji with 8% of the quota is as large as 17,680.
11:47This is of course a division according to the law and we want it to remain fair.
11:52And of course, the spirit in the future, in accordance with the law,
11:57Haji and Umrah that are included in the priority prolectas.
12:01We certainly hope that there will be a discussion about the division of the quota in the future.
12:06As far as we know, Haji worship is a worship that has a very long waiting process.
12:13What we know in general is a minimum of 15 to 40 years.
12:19It means that when people register as soon as possible within 15 years,
12:22register this year, for example 2025,
12:25they will leave the regular Haji in 2040, 15 years from now.
12:32We see, and this is also felt by many Haji who have registered on the regular waiting list,
12:37when they have been waiting for more than 10 years,
12:41there is an economic improvement in their respective statuses,
12:44and they see the need to be able to get better services.
12:49What they see is a special Haji.
12:51However, this migration cannot yet be accommodated because there is no such thing in the law.
12:55We hope that this amendment to the law also needs to be included.
12:59There is a migration of services, Jemah has been waiting for several years,
13:04then has more economic ability,
13:06can migrate services to get a special Haji service.
13:09However, the quota is still the same as last year.
13:12However, this argumentation needs to be strengthened with the DPR.
13:15However, in general, the idea can already be accepted,
13:19and it does not need to be poured into the law to ensure that
13:22there is no right for Jemah who is waiting to be stepped on.
13:25That's the most important thing.
13:27Not because they are willing to pay more to those who jump the queue, no.
13:31The quota is still the same as last year.
13:36However, if they want to withdraw services,
13:38it can be done through a special Haji service.
13:42As for the quota percentage, we also conclude that it is quite good,
13:48but the sentence is at least 8%,
13:52so later if there is an additional quota,
13:54as we know last year,
13:58about the quota percentage becoming a special Haji,
14:01which is quite political at the national level,
14:06we hope this will not happen again,
14:08if the sentence 8% is enough to be at least 8% for a special Haji.
14:13If at the time there is an additional quota,
14:16which is felt in that year,
14:18this additional quota cannot be absorbed well by the government for a regular Haji,
14:22we at Haji Khusus can get the additional quota,
14:25the amount agreed by the government and the DPR.
14:30So there is flexibility in distributing the additional quota in the coming years.
14:35Mr. Firman, in this year's Haji service,
14:38does it look a little different from the previous years?
14:41The presence of Haji servicemen,
14:44which is usually only done by the Ministry of Religious Affairs,
14:48how do you see this transition process,
14:51especially the purpose is to facilitate the Haji service
14:55and make up for the shortcomings that occurred in the previous Haji service?
15:00Yes, we can see positively
15:04that the government of President Prabowo
15:07really pays attention to the Haji service.
15:11What we see is that there is a new body that we know as the body of the Haji service.
15:17This body, of course, as a nomenclature of the Haji service,
15:21will play a very dominant role later,
15:24the role of the proxy is
15:26how to help the government
15:28ensure that the Haji service is carried out by the body that has been established
15:33and the focus is on the service
15:37or the increase of services in the service of the Haji.
15:40Of course, we need to appreciate this spirit together.
15:43How does this body role with the Ministry of Religious Affairs
15:46can be divided into portions?
15:47As in Law No. 8 of 2019,
15:50the establishment of the Haji service is carried out by the minister
15:54which can be done by the committee that is formed every year.
15:59It means that there is an ad hoc body that is formed every year,
16:02which is replaced.
16:03It means that by preparing the body of the Ministry of Religious Affairs,
16:05the body of the Minister of Religious Affairs,
16:06it is not just ad hoc,
16:08there is already a team, a structure,
16:10whose task every year is to perform services,
16:13evaluate, improve, and next year to always be improved.
16:17This professionalism that we feel is very positive
16:20and that is a progress.
16:22And we are honored, of course, as an implementer
16:26who has had enough experience for years,
16:28ready to contribute and provide constructive input
16:32on how this body can serve well.
16:35However, as we know,
16:36it has been agreed between the Ministry of Religious Affairs and the Ministry of Public Works
16:40that this body will start to work effectively next year, 2026.
16:44This year, as a supporter,
16:46it will still be carried out by the Ministry of Religious Affairs.
16:49We hope that this year,
16:51the Ministry of Public Works will see in detail,
16:53in detail,
16:54how the adherence to the Haji worship
16:56by the Ministry of Religious Affairs is carried out
16:58by conducting research on how to improve services.
17:03And we are sure, God willing,
17:05their professionalism can also not be doubted.
17:08Not led by Ifan.
17:14Okay, Mr. Firman.
17:15We still have one more segment.
17:17We will return to the previous topic.
17:19Later we will try to review in more detail
17:21related to the Haji worship that has yet to be completed.
17:24And what is the strategy later?
17:26And hope for the completion of the Haji worship in 2025.
17:29We will be right back.
17:39Thank you for joining us.
17:41We are still talking with Mr. Firman M. Nur,
17:43Chairperson of the DPP Hampuri.
17:45Mr. Firman, let's continue.
17:47Earlier, Mr. Terket also mentioned
17:50the payment of the Haji worship.
17:53Earlier you said, from the presentation,
17:55there are already some who have paid
17:57and are still waiting for the payment.
17:59What is the status of the payment?
18:01What is the status of the payment?
18:03What is the status of the payment?
18:05Earlier, you said, from the presentation,
18:07there are already some who have paid
18:09and are still waiting for the payment.
18:11Is this really the cycle?
18:14Every Haji worship does not pay in full,
18:18but there is a deadline that has been set.
18:21Mr. Firman.
18:23Yes, it has been established through the Minister of Religious Affairs
18:27that there are several stages of payment.
18:30The first stage and the second stage.
18:32Of course, the basis is the waiting list
18:34which can start in the coming year.
18:38We see that in 2025,
18:43there are some challenges that are quite heavy for the community.
18:49We know that,
18:51although it has been stated earlier,
18:54our President, Mr. Prabowo,
18:57has asked the DPR and Religious Affairs
19:00to reduce the cost.
19:01And it has been stated earlier,
19:03the price this year has dropped by 4 million rupiahs
19:05compared to the previous year.
19:07This is an achievement.
19:09Besides, the challenge is
19:11the exchange rate for the dollar
19:15has dropped significantly.
19:17Last year, the exchange rate was 15,500 rupiahs.
19:20This year, the exchange rate is 16,300 rupiahs.
19:22There is even a place of 16,500 rupiahs.
19:25We see that the economic condition of the community
19:28is also quite difficult.
19:30Therefore, until now,
19:32the level of fulfillment is only 161,000
19:35out of the 203,000 cities provided.
19:37However, because the system is not open
19:41just like that.
19:42So, only an opportunity is given
19:44to the first 203,000 people
19:47who are expected to be able to pay
19:50and be ready to start this year.
19:52Later, when this first stage is closed,
19:54the rest will be opened again.
19:56We look forward to the next 100,000 hours
19:59that have become the waiting list to be fulfilled.
20:02God willing, until now, our experience over the years,
20:05the quota has never run out
20:07and we can finish it.
20:08As long as the Indonesian government is very prepared
20:12for the timeline of the Saudi Arabian Hajj.
20:15We know that the time to complete the visa quota
20:19is now about 23 more days to complete the visa.
20:24This means that this extension must consider
20:27the timeline of completing the visa
20:29that has been set by Saudi Arabia.
20:32God willing, if the community is given a second chance,
20:36the waiting list will continue to be fully filled.
20:39And I am very confident
20:40because this is what the community is waiting for.
20:43Secondly, Hajj worship is a worship that becomes a priority.
20:47There is no priority in life
20:49except for Hajj worship.
20:50This means that the financial ability
20:52will be maximized.
20:53And hopefully, the condition will be
20:56not only for the Amalia Institute,
20:59but also for the Institute of Health.
21:01We also hope that the waiting list community
21:03that has been set for the year 2025
21:06really has the ability and health
21:08to be able to participate in this year's Hajj.
21:11Mr. Firman, when one condition, Mr. Haji,
21:14has been fulfilled,
21:15is there a condition that makes it possible
21:17for the participants of the Hajj
21:19not to be able to participate?
21:22Yes.
21:23The Institute of Health
21:25is a condition this year.
21:27We make sure that the participants
21:30have the physical ability
21:32to complete the Rukun and Hajj duties
21:36minimally well.
21:37So that there are no obstacles on the field
21:40that will be difficult for them
21:42or groups.
21:43Although in general, the preparation
21:45in the committee is extraordinary.
21:47It has anticipated things
21:49that cannot be desired.
21:51However, one of the conditions is set
21:53to ensure that the participants
21:55who are really ready to perform the worship
21:57in a meaningful way,
21:58there is a standardization of the Institute of Health.
22:00And this needs to be fulfilled by all participants
22:03who will depart this year
22:05or who have entered the waiting list
22:07to depart in 2025.
22:09Okay, Mr. Firman.
22:10Last, Mr. Harapan,
22:11for the postponement of the Hajj in 2025.
22:13Just briefly, Mr. Firman.
22:15The first is the 2025 Hajj
22:17is the Hajj that Indonesia
22:19has regained its greatest power.
22:21We hope that the Indonesian government
22:23through the Ministry of Religion
22:25and we as PHK
22:27can cooperate well
22:29to succeed in the postponement of Hajj worship
22:31in a good way by the Ministry of Religion
22:33through PHK or PHK members
22:36in our association.
22:37The second is,
22:38we are reminded that
22:40the 2025 Hajj
22:42is still carried out
22:43in the hot season
22:45whose temperature last year
22:47reached more than 50 degrees Celsius.
22:50In fact, as far as we know,
22:52last year there were many illegal pilgrims
22:55who performed Hajj worship
22:57not in accordance with their visa requirements.
22:59We also hope that there is awareness
23:01for all Indonesian pilgrims
23:03to make sure that
23:05the visa they have is the Hajj visa
23:07so that the worship will be more peaceful,
23:10more comfortable,
23:12and hopefully more peaceful.
23:14So that the worship will be more peaceful.
23:16Mr. Firman, our time is limited, sir.
23:18Thank you for taking the time on IDH Channel.
23:20Hopefully our discussion can be a reference
23:22for the viewers of IDH Channel.
23:24Mr. Firman, always be healthy, sir.
23:26Thank you very much.
23:28Thank you, Mr. Firman.
23:29Emnur, General Chairman of DPP Ampuri.
23:32And the discussion at the same time
23:33seems to end our cooperation
23:35in this special dialogue.
23:37Because the affairs of the future must move forward.
23:39I am Investor Saham.
23:40I am David Sanofal.
23:41See you again.
23:42Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
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