Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) joined "Forbes Newsroom" to discuss the White House leak of war plans through a Signal group chat.
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00:00And I just want your comment, if you could, on one final story. News broke yesterday that
00:05the Atlantic's editor-in-chief was inadvertently involved or added to a group chat with top
00:10U.S. national security leaders about the U.S. airstrikes in Yemen against the Houthis. What's
00:17your reaction to that really explosive story?
00:20Well, look, I find it interesting that this is from the same journalist that pushed a
00:24lot of fabricated stories about this administration. Also, too, interesting that they never point
00:29out that there is never any classified information shared on that single chat platform. And so
00:35I find the spin on this very interesting. But look, the Atlantic and how they've really
00:40represented themselves with this administration has not been 100% honest. Also, too, you know,
00:45if you're really thinking about it from a national security perspective and they were
00:48so concerned about it, why are they posting now group chats on the Internet? All of that
00:52should be called the question. But look, there is nothing classified sharing those conversations.
00:56Obviously, we saw very candid responses from the vice president and people involved. And
01:01frankly, I think the American people appreciated their honesty and feel the same way for many
01:05of their positions. So I back the president in this. I back what his decision is with
01:10now Security Advisor Waltz, who I know personally and has done great things as a veteran for
01:15this country. And we'll continue calling out the hypocrisy where we see it.
01:19And they said that the airstrikes were successful. But Goldberg did write this. What I will say
01:24in order to illustrate the shocking recklessness of this signal conversation is that the Hagseth
01:29post contained operational details of forthcoming strifes on Yemen, including information about
01:34targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying and attack sequencing. If the White House,
01:39if you're saying, hey, this stuff wasn't classified, is that pushing him? Do you think
01:43he should then post the entire conversation? Do you think that would compromise national
01:47security at all?
01:48Well, I find it interesting, right, that they're arguing that this stuff shouldn't be posted
01:52in a signal chat. And then the Atlantic takes it and actually puts a huge story on it, which
01:56means they and themselves were skewing the information from the get go. But, yeah, the
01:59White House said that it was not classified information. I would argue that if you asked
02:06Pete Hagseth this information in person, he might tell you exactly what he thinks on these
02:10topics. And so I, again, look, I look at things from a lens of did it hurt the American people?
02:15Was a strike successful? Was it classified information? But then also to what's the spin
02:19on this? And again, you can see this from the from the get go. Instead of leaving that
02:24group chat, this individual decided to stay in the group chat. They then collected information.
02:29They then decided to write a story on it, trying to imply there was classified information
02:33where there wasn't, and then said that it was so bad that there was a group chat. But
02:36then they took this and presented it to the world stage. So I just think the whole thing
02:39is hypocritical.
02:41And my final question, do you think signal should be used at all then for any type of
02:46national security conversations?
02:48Well, I think that there definitely needs to be encrypted messaging platforms. I would
02:52argue that we should probably work on designing one that's hardened, at least for members
02:57in Congress and then also the White House specifically, because we tend to be targets.
03:01As you know, in Eric Swalwell's case, he slept with a Chinese spy, but he didn't know, I
03:06guess, apparently at the time that she was a spy. And so, you know, we're constantly
03:09being monitored and surveillance. And there are people that will try to collect data from
03:13members of Congress. So, yeah, we need something. I actually will tell you that I don't have
03:18any issues with signal personally. So it's definitely a topic of discussion right now
03:21for sure.
03:22Well, Congresswoman, as per usual, I always appreciate our conversations. I always appreciate
03:27your candor. Thank you so, so much for joining me. You're welcome back any time.
03:30Perfect.