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00:00Good evening. Welcome to Hatsumimi Kaidan.
00:02First of all, I would like to welcome the regulars.
00:04Thank you for having us.
00:08And today, we have a special guest.
00:11This is the fourth time Hatsumimi Kaidan has appeared.
00:14She is also a writer and a columnist.
00:16Please welcome Mariko Kawana.
00:19Thank you for having me.
00:20Last year, as a writer of Kaidan,
00:23you celebrated your 10th anniversary.
00:25Congratulations.
00:28In celebration of your 10th anniversary,
00:30you held a festival called the Kawana Festival.
00:32That's right.
00:33I'm not the organizer,
00:34but there is an event called the Matsuri Series.
00:36Wasn't it interesting and exciting?
00:38It was a success.
00:39One of the projects was
00:41to choose the second generation of Mariko Kawana.
00:44I heard that there was such an event.
00:47The second generation of Mariko Kawana was appointed by
00:49Mariko Hao.
00:51That's right.
00:52It's a Marimari combination.
00:54If I die or retire,
00:56I can call myself Mariko Kawana.
00:58Can I prove it?
01:00I want Mr. Iwao to take a picture of you.
01:02With that look...
01:04Hello, I'm Mariko Kawana.
01:08Let's move on to this corner.
01:10This is the Hatsumimi Idobata Conference.
01:12This is a corner
01:13where we talk about the themes
01:15that have been decided every week.
01:18Tomorrow, March 25th,
01:21we will have an international day
01:24where we can meet with the staff
01:26who have disappeared or are in the process of disappearing.
01:29So today's theme is
01:31missing people.
01:33I think it's possible
01:35if it's about missing people.
01:37We've given you a lot of titles.
01:39There are a lot of them.
01:41Mr. Nobuzo, do you have any?
01:44I'm sure I have.
01:46I heard it from Mr. Satozaki.
01:48It's me.
01:50Do you know Mr. Satozaki?
01:52He used to be a professional baseball player.
01:54He's a catcher for Lotte.
01:56He loves stairs.
01:58I heard from a friend
02:00that he's the one
02:02who made me shiver the most.
02:05He's a man in his 40s.
02:08When he was about 20,
02:10the four of us went
02:12to the abandoned hospital in Hokkaido
02:14to try our luck.
02:16We looked around,
02:18but there was nothing.
02:20When we said,
02:22let's go home,
02:24there was a loud noise.
02:26We thought, what was that?
02:28We were all surprised.
02:30We ran away.
02:32When we got to the car,
02:34we were all surprised.
02:36There were only three of us.
02:38We said, let's go look for them.
02:40We looked around
02:42from the operating room,
02:44but there was no one.
02:46We couldn't find them.
02:48A month later,
02:50two months later,
02:52half a year later,
02:54they came back to their home.
02:56Their heads were all white.
03:00When they came back,
03:02they collapsed.
03:04They lost consciousness
03:06and were taken to the hospital.
03:08They were unconscious for a long time.
03:10One day,
03:12when they woke up,
03:14they were taken to the abandoned hospital.
03:16They wanted to die in the hospital,
03:18but after they said that,
03:20they passed away.
03:26They were missing,
03:28but they were gone
03:30for about half a year.
03:32I was surprised
03:34to hear that.
03:36Next,
03:38Takkun,
03:40do you have a title?
03:42I have a question.
03:44The Abashiri Prison.
03:46That's my story.
03:48Mr. Shimada
03:50told a story about it.
03:52It's quite detailed.
03:54It's a bit different.
03:56But it's the same Hokkaido.
03:58Abashiri.
04:00The story is similar.
04:02The story I posted
04:04was from the Showa period.
04:06It was in 1963 or 1962.
04:08It was a long time ago.
04:10There were four men
04:12who had a strong sense of spirit.
04:14They wanted to go to
04:16the Abashiri Prison.
04:18In the Showa period,
04:20the security was very loose.
04:22They could enter the prison.
04:24They couldn't enter
04:26the prison itself,
04:28but they could enter
04:30through the gate
04:32and go around the building.
04:34They went around and came back.
04:36At the entrance,
04:38they saw a fog.
04:40They were scared.
04:42They couldn't see anything.
04:44They called out,
04:46but there was no answer.
04:48They thought it was bad.
04:50They thought it was better
04:52not to move.
04:54Mr. A was standing still.
04:56He thought it was creepy.
04:58But the fog cleared up.
05:00Two of his friends were there.
05:02There was no one else.
05:04This person
05:06went missing.
05:08A year later,
05:10he was found
05:12shaking in front of
05:14the Abashiri Prison
05:16where he went missing.
05:18The details were the same.
05:20His hair
05:22turned white
05:24out of fear.
05:26He doesn't remember
05:28what happened.
05:30It's a similar story.
05:32That's what I thought.
05:34So,
05:36he was lost
05:38in another world.
05:40It must have been a stressful
05:42environment for him.
05:44Shall we move on?
05:46Yes.
05:48I can see a figure.
05:50A few years ago,
05:52we were gathering
05:54a group of people from Chiba.
05:56There were a few places
05:58where we went with the people.
06:00When we were moving by car,
06:02we saw a person
06:04who used to go to
06:06a snack bar in Chiba.
06:08I looked at
06:10another person.
06:12I saw
06:14a triangle
06:16around his head.
06:18It was spinning.
06:20I saw a drill
06:22stuck in his head.
06:24I thought,
06:26what's going on?
06:28He said,
06:30doesn't your head hurt?
06:32I said,
06:34yes, why do you know that?
06:36People in the store
06:38said, me too.
06:40I said, take a look.
06:42I saw a figure
06:44stuck or moving
06:46in a bad place.
06:48I pointed at
06:50the figure.
06:52There was a girl
06:54working in the store.
06:56I said, me too.
06:58I couldn't see
07:00the figure.
07:02I could only hear
07:04the sound of water.
07:08I could only say,
07:10be careful of human relations.
07:12I couldn't see anything.
07:14After a while,
07:16I went to the snack bar again.
07:18The girl wasn't there.
07:20I asked my mom,
07:22what happened to her?
07:24She said,
07:26she couldn't contact me
07:28anymore.
07:32After that,
07:34I couldn't find her.
07:36I don't know where she went.
07:40I don't know
07:42if it has anything to do with water.
07:46Some people think
07:48bad things are mosaic.
07:50Some people think
07:52bad things are black.
07:54I don't know
07:56where she went after that.
07:58I don't know
08:00if it has anything to do with water.
08:02Thank you very much.
08:04That was Hatsumimi Idobata meeting.
08:10Next corner is
08:12Hatsumimi Short Stairs.
08:14This corner is
08:16a short video
08:18of the short stairs
08:20that the staff
08:22of Hatsumimi Idobata
08:24prepared for you.
08:52I don't know
08:54where she went.
08:56It's been 30 years.
08:58Sometimes,
09:00I can smell her.
09:02I lost my appetite for 3 days.
09:04Last week,
09:06I met her again.
09:08She came to me
09:10again.
09:12I blamed her.
09:14I hit her hard.
09:16I felt like I touched a wet towel.
09:18I realized
09:20she wasn't there.
09:22There was a broken
09:24lipstick on the floor.
09:26It was just lying there.
09:28What is the reason
09:30for this?
09:32That's a great story.
09:34Mr. Taku, what do you think?
09:36There is an actor
09:38called Taku Sakaguchi
09:40who was hit by a ghost.
09:42When we went to shoot a movie,
09:44the hotel we stayed at
09:46was a bit old.
09:48It was the first time
09:50I was hit by a ghost in my life.
09:52A woman in a long white dress
09:54was walking slowly.
09:56She was floating
09:58and came to my bed.
10:00I heard that
10:02ghosts are small and transparent.
10:04I thought I could hit her
10:06if I punched her fast.
10:08I couldn't move.
10:10I set up the camera
10:12and punched her
10:14as fast as I could.
10:16I felt like
10:18I punched her hard.
10:20I thought,
10:22ghosts can punch people.
10:24When I woke up in the morning,
10:26there was a small mirror
10:28on the wall of the hotel.
10:30There were two cracks.
10:32I thought
10:34there was a person
10:36in the mirror.
10:38It was broken.
10:40I didn't know what to say
10:42to the staff.
10:44When I woke up,
10:46there was a person
10:48in the mirror.
10:50My father
10:52believes that
10:54physics works for ghosts.
10:56He concentrated
10:58his energy
11:00on the crack.
11:02Then,
11:04he punched her.
11:06He was able to free her
11:08by training.
11:10Some people
11:12say that
11:14a woman came out of the closet
11:16and grabbed his leg.
11:18Let's move on
11:20to the next segment.
11:22This is the first take of
11:24Hatsumimi Kaidan.
11:26The first take
11:28of Hatsumimi Kaidan
11:30will be performed
11:32by Mariko Kawana.
11:36This is the fourth stage.
11:38I hope I can
11:40perform well.
11:42Mariko Kawana,
11:44are you ready?
11:46Yes, I'm ready.
11:48Today,
11:50you will perform
11:52Hatsumimi Kaidan.
11:54Mariko Kawana,
11:56thank you.
11:58I heard this story
12:00from Eiko,
12:02who is from Kansai.
12:04Eiko's family
12:06had complicated circumstances.
12:08Her mother passed away
12:10when she was in high school.
12:12Until she graduated from high school,
12:14she managed to survive
12:16thanks to her mother.
12:18She was able to graduate
12:20from high school,
12:22but she had no place to go.
12:24Eiko thought about it.
12:26She consulted many teachers.
12:28Then,
12:30there was a vocational training school.
12:32The vocational training school
12:34I'm going to talk about
12:36is a vocational training school
12:38where you can get
12:40the qualification of
12:42a Japanese-style craftsman.
12:44Eiko was a kimono-making
12:46and kimono-making technician.
12:48However,
12:50she was unlucky.
12:52There were many
12:54vocational training schools.
12:56One of them was
12:58a Japanese-style workshop
13:00in a clothing chain
13:02in Ote.
13:04There was a room
13:06and you could get a qualification.
13:08You could stay there for five years.
13:10When you entered the room,
13:12you could see a place
13:14where you could live.
13:16You were given a job
13:18in a club.
13:20The rules were strict.
13:22You had to pay
13:24a high salary.
13:26It was a very tough job.
13:28You were paid
13:30a lot of money.
13:32However,
13:34you didn't have any money left.
13:38In the end,
13:40you had no place to go
13:42if you paid a lot of money.
13:44You had no choice
13:46but to work.
13:48If you didn't work,
13:50you couldn't pay the fee
13:52and you had no place to go.
13:54At first,
13:56there were about 20 people
13:58in the first grade.
14:00You couldn't stand it
14:02so you ran away.
14:04You got used to it
14:06and you had a chance
14:08to talk to your seniors.
14:10Most people
14:12quit their jobs.
14:14Many people
14:16don't want to do it
14:18because they are
14:20chased by the rules.
14:22Some people
14:24even kill themselves.
14:26When I heard that,
14:28I was scared.
14:30Because
14:32Ms. A and her classmate
14:34Ms. B
14:36were in the same room.
14:38In this room,
14:40there was a card
14:42under the pillow
14:44Ms. A was using.
14:46I didn't think about it
14:48deeply.
14:50But when I heard
14:52that some people
14:54were in the same room,
14:56I was scared.
14:58One night,
15:00Ms. B
15:02screamed loudly
15:04in the middle of the night.
15:06I wondered what it was.
15:08She said,
15:10a woman came out of the closet
15:12and grabbed her legs.
15:14When I turned on the light,
15:16I saw a woman's hand
15:18on her ankle.
15:20I thought,
15:22this is the room.
15:24This is the room.
15:26Most of my classmates
15:28are not in this room.
15:30I don't think everyone knows this room.
15:32She said.
15:34At that time,
15:36I couldn't ask her any more questions.
15:38After that,
15:40I grabbed her.
15:42I asked her,
15:44Ms. B,
15:46why didn't you go to school?
15:48She said,
15:50I grabbed her ankle.
15:52After that,
15:54she became crazy.
15:56In the closet,
15:58she was talking
16:00with a ghost.
16:02In the end,
16:04she was sent back to the countryside.
16:06In that closet,
16:08there was a girl
16:10who had committed suicide long ago.
16:12She paid for her suicide
16:14and put up a tag.
16:16When I heard that,
16:18I thought,
16:20this is strange.
16:22At another time,
16:24she said,
16:26the ghost in the closet
16:28was only the upper body.
16:30In the office on the 3rd floor,
16:32only the legs
16:34wearing red skirts appeared.
16:36I think you will see it soon.
16:38She said so.
16:40It was like a school mystery.
16:42In the office on the 3rd floor,
16:44only the lower body
16:46appeared.
16:48The upper body
16:50appeared in the closet
16:52on the 5th floor.
16:54Everyone knew it.
16:56Noruma couldn't do it.
16:58Until late at night,
17:00Ms. B and I
17:02had to sew
17:04in the office on the 3rd floor.
17:08At first,
17:10there were senior students around us.
17:12Gradually,
17:14they encouraged us
17:16to do our best.
17:18Suddenly,
17:20I heard a sound
17:22at the entrance of the office.
17:24I thought,
17:26the door was closed,
17:28but
17:30something was coming
17:32from there.
17:34It seemed to walk towards us.
17:36At the same time,
17:38a heavy air mass
17:40was pushing
17:42the door of the office.
17:44I felt something strange.
17:48I said,
17:50let's run away.
17:52I called Ms. B.
17:54We ran towards the entrance
17:56and ran away.
17:58I was thinking
18:00to stop working
18:02in the office on the 3rd floor,
18:04but I couldn't do it.
18:06Ms. B
18:08quit school
18:10and Ms. A
18:12became alone.
18:14She had to work
18:16on the 3rd floor alone.
18:18Again, I heard a sound.
18:20I thought,
18:22I shouldn't look at it.
18:24Suddenly,
18:26I saw
18:28blue-white shoes
18:30and red long skirts
18:32in the corner of my eyes.
18:34I turned around
18:36and saw
18:38no one there.
18:40I was terrified.
18:42I thought,
18:44I can't do it anymore.
18:46I ran back to my room.
18:48I told this story
18:50to my friend.
18:52She said,
18:54you heard a voice, didn't you?
18:56I said,
18:58what voice?
19:00A woman with only her upper body
19:02didn't say anything.
19:04But,
19:06she said,
19:08she can't do it.
19:10She said,
19:12she can't do it.
19:14She said,
19:16she can't do it.
19:18I heard this story.
19:37What kind of feelings
19:39did you have
19:41when you were in the closet?
19:43You couldn't do it.
19:45But, you had to do it.
19:47She was a woman who had fought.
19:49She was an artisan.
19:51She tried to make it,
19:53but it didn't go as she wanted.
19:55She was probably crying
19:57when she imagined it.
19:59In the end,
20:01she couldn't do it on the 3rd floor.
20:03I guess it really happened.
20:05Maybe she was crying
20:07because she couldn't do it
20:09on the 3rd floor.
20:11Women are quite strict,
20:13aren't they?
20:15Yes.
20:17I wrote it down on a piece of paper.
20:19It's hard to talk about it here.
20:21There were things like bullying.
20:23If someone couldn't do it,
20:25it was a collective responsibility.
20:27There was a system like that.
20:29I guess there were various reasons.
20:31I wondered
20:33why she didn't go to the 4th floor.
20:35In extreme situations,
20:37she could blame someone.
20:39She didn't hate it,
20:41but she didn't want to see it.
20:43She wanted to get rid of people
20:45who couldn't do it.
20:47She had a sense of air.
20:49Among them,
20:51there was a person
20:53who was really strict
20:55and said it to herself.
20:57Maybe she was on the 4th floor.
20:59She didn't want to see anyone.
21:01It's a sad story.
21:03I thought it was a story
21:05that showed the strictness
21:07of the place.
21:13How was it?
21:15We are looking forward
21:17to your mysterious experiences.
21:19We have a unique story,
21:21so please look forward to it.
21:23Today's guest was Mariko Kawana.
21:25Thank you very much.