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00:00There's been suspicions that Benjamin Netanyahu never had any intention of agreeing to a second
00:07phase of the ceasefire deal, as it would involve pulling Israeli troops out of Gaza,
00:13whilst Hamas does, of course, remain. What do you make of this theory?
00:19I don't think it's real because we actually brought troops out of Gaza in order to have
00:24that deal. So the second phase just extends that. Why wouldn't Benjamin Netanyahu want to bring
00:32all his hostages home for extending the ceasefire? And also, as long as we extend the ceasefire,
00:37we have a chance of thinking about the future of Gaza and bringing in partners like the Saudis,
00:43like the Emiratis, like good faith actors like the Americans. This is only possible
00:51if Hamas don't continue to rule Gaza. And that's
00:55much better for the surrounding countries, and it's also much better for the people of Gaza.