During a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing held before the congressional recess, Sen. Ted Budd (R-NC) questioned experts about military health innovations.
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00:00Thank you very much, Senator King. Senator Budd, catch your breath.
00:23Major General, in your opening statement, whether here or able to watch it on the
00:28closed circuit, you identify the importance of the relationship between the military health
00:35system and the defense logistics enterprise. So should deterrence fail and the war break
00:42out in the Indo-Pacific, there are undeniable logistics constraints, particularly given
00:48the geography of Indo-Pacom. The logistics of replenishing medical supplies and evacuating
00:54wounded service members could make all the difference in reducing service member casualties.
00:59You provide a number of recommendations in your opening statement to address these concerns,
01:03including a number of reports and studies. So thank you for that. So what can our military
01:07health system do in the short term, like immediately, to address logistical constraints? And how
01:14can DOD leverage medical innovation to address some of those constraints?
01:19Thank you very much, Senator. I think that the most immediate recommendation that I included
01:23in my written statement was that whenever we contemplate an operation or we're updating
01:30plans, we do a medical feasibility assessment, very similar to the logistics feasibility
01:38assessment that the Joint Staff J4 does. We need to ensure that we are informing our combatant
01:44commanders about what is and is not possible. That is something that can be done very easily.
01:50The longer answer to your question gets back to the discussion that we were just having
01:55about partnering with industry, both on the equipment and pharmaceutical side and on the
02:00health care delivery side. We have the civilian reserve air fleet that allows us to commit
02:05money to ensure that we have industry partners willing to provide aircraft and support when
02:11we need it. We have no such analog in the health care space, even though we know, as
02:15multiple senators pointed out this morning, that there's insufficient capacity in the
02:20DOD and in the VA to care for our casualties. The NDMS currently is a voluntary system in
02:26which hospitals can say, yeah, OK. And then when we call them, they say, I'm busy today.
02:30I'm not going to participate. We actually need to codify a system, as we've done with
02:35other industrial partners, in which there's a commitment and an understanding of how the
02:40reimbursement would work.
02:42The last point that I would make on that, going forward, is in supplemental planning
02:46for future operations, we have to build in that cost. There is no question, if we're
02:51bringing back thousands of casualties, as Colonel Cannon described, that that is going
02:56to displace care and it's going to increase cost at hospitals. We have to plan for that.
03:01That's why this whole planning effort, the integrated CONUS medical operations plan,
03:05for which NORTHCOM is the lead, in partnership with industry, state, local, and HHS officials
03:11is so important, so we can bring back the requirements for funding and the challenges
03:16that we'll need congressional help to address.
03:19Thank you. Following up on that, you said we need to codify that. Do you have the language
03:24ready or has that been written in a way that we could review, either individually or as
03:28a committee?
03:30Senator, I took the liberty of including an attachment with suggested language, just in
03:34case anyone wanted to do that.
03:37We'll read it in a few moments. Thank you. Mr. Robb, as you know, the Department relies
03:43on a mix of military personnel, federal civilians, and contractors to carry out its mission.
03:49Talk to me about the roles of physician extenders, such as registered nurses, and what role do
03:54physician extenders play in ensuring the readiness of the broader force, and what challenges
03:58do you see to retention of physician extenders?
04:05Thank you for that question, Senator. I think it's key that the same issues of what I call
04:13proficiency in currency that exists for physicians exists for our physician extenders. The Army
04:22does a great job, especially in the way they've manned and equipped their fighting forces
04:27of using those physician extenders, all the way down to the corpsman, to the fullest extent
04:33of their capabilities. And so, I would argue, as we have these discussions about medical
04:40readiness and about our ability to care for what we call critical wartime specialties,
04:46we must remember trauma is a small percentage of that, but the majority of the care that
04:53is applied to our fighting forces comes from our primary care providers, which would be
05:00PAs, nurse practitioners, general practitioners, family physicians. So, we must ensure that
05:07they also have the critical thinking skills and the opportunity to practice at the top
05:12of their gate.
05:14Thank you all for the whole panel. Chairman?
05:18Senator Budd, yes, indeed, in looking at the statements which have all been admitted to
05:29the record by unanimous consent, I see on page 14 of Dr. Friedrich's prepared testimony
05:37attachment 1, suggested National Defense Authorization Act language. So, we do appreciate him acting
05:45as an uncompensated legislative staffer for this committee. We appreciate that. And thanks
05:52for the question.