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00:00Yeah, I mean the Europeans really don't sound very happy. We heard from the
00:03European Union foreign policy chief Kaya Kalas saying that Moscow's conditions,
00:09and there are lots of them, we were talking about them just before we crossed
00:12to you, the conditions for a ceasefire show that Russia doesn't really want
00:16peace, she says. I mean, why do you think she's saying that on the eve of that all
00:21important telephone conversation between President Putin and President Trump?
00:28We'll see what's real.
00:32The two presidents, but up to now, we have been different point of view from
00:38the US. When US was negotiating in Saudi Arabia with Mr. Secretary of State was
00:48there. And apparently there was an agreement with the Ukrainian. And when it
00:53was sent to Moscow, then Mr. Putin say, Yes, I agree to stop the war, but under
00:59my conditions, and we know that the condition provided by Russia are
01:04unacceptable. So really, the problem will be what will be come out from the
01:11negotiation between Mr. And the conversation mainly, which is not really
01:16a negotiation between Mr. Trump and Mr. Putin. The problem is that Mr. Trump is
01:22changing every hours of position. So it will be very, very difficult to
01:27understand what will happen after this phone call tomorrow.