Panayam kay dating Sen. Leila de Lima

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00:00At this point, we can talk on the phone with former Senator Laila Delima.

00:05She is still involved in the arrest of former President Rodrigo Duterte.

00:09Good evening, Senator Laila Delima. This is Sheila Salaisay of PTV.

00:14Good evening, Sheila. Good evening to the viewers. Good evening.

00:19Yes, Senator. I have a few questions. First, how do you feel?

00:24The former President Duterte has been arrested by the ICC.

00:28Of course, I am relieved because we have been waiting for this.

00:32I have been waiting for this. The families of the victims of the EJ case have been waiting for this.

00:39But even though we have been waiting, it is still hard to believe that on that day,

00:45on March 11, on Tuesday, the news broke that Duterte has been arrested.

00:54But it is only right because he has a responsibility to the thousands of people who were killed.

01:01You have already mentioned his arrest, but do you think there is a violation of the law related to his arrest?

01:09Is it legal?

01:11I do not see anything wrong or illegal in his arrest.

01:16First of all, his arrest is pursuant to a warrant of arrest issued by the ICC as an international tribunal with competent jurisdiction.

01:28They investigated and decided that the warrant of arrest should be issued.

01:40The decision to issue the warrant of arrest was made by the pre-trial chamber with three members.

01:49So the warrant of arrest issued by an international court with competent jurisdiction was passed to the Interpol.

01:59The Interpol asked for our help, the help of the Philippine government.

02:08The Philippine government cooperated with the Interpol because it is our obligation as a member of the Interpol.

02:16So I do not see anything illegal in the arrest of the former president.

02:23What can you say about the comment that the ICC did not include us, so it has no right to arrest the ex-president Duterte?

02:32First of all, I said that the ICC has jurisdiction.

02:36Even if we withdrew, the ICC still has jurisdiction to investigate the acts against humanity that happened when we were members of the Rome Statute or the ICC.

02:52So even if we are not members now, it does not mean that the jurisdiction of the ICC is gone.

03:00It does not mean that the ICC will stop its proceedings.

03:10So that is not a valid argument.

03:13It is clear that the Supreme Court said that even if we withdrew, the ICC can still investigate the crimes against humanity that happened when we were members.

03:33Yes, ma'am.

03:39Senator Ronald de la Rosa.

03:41I cannot say that. I do not know if that is what they will do next.

03:47What I can say is that it is possible because we know that they were part of the investigations of the ICC investigative team.

03:57In fact, the ICC issued a summons to them.

04:04I do not know if they responded to that. I also do not know if they faced the investigative team.

04:11What I know is that they were also part of the investigations.

04:15So they are not far from having a warrant of arrest.

04:22Thank you very much for your time, former Senator Laila de Lima.

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