Chief of Army Staff General Upendra Dwived said, "Whatever I will be empowered for, I will work for that."
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00:00Questioner 1 – General Dwivedi, Desh ke Grah Mantri Amit Shah, Raksha Mantri Rajnath
00:04Singh ne kaha ki Pakistan Adhikrit Kashmir, POK ek din Bharat ka hissa banega.
00:09Aap Sen Adhyaksh hai, kya aapko lagta hai ki yeh sambhav hai ki POK ko hum Bharat ka
00:15hissa banaya ek baar phir?
00:16Anupam Kher – Dekhiye jab koi bhi ladhai hoti hai toh usko hum bolte hain DIME-T.
00:20Pehle DIME bolte the, Instruments of National Power chaar hote hain, diplomacy, information,
00:26military, economy and main usme technology use jaroor karta hoon kyunki DIME-T abhi aagaya
00:30hai and aapka age of acceleration ka theme bhi bhi hai.
00:33So agar aap in cheezon mein dekhe, matlab jab bhi koi ladhai ke liye jaata hai toh kya
00:37wo ek army ladhai ke liye jaate hai?
00:40Aaj ki tarikh pe wo mumkin nahi hai, aaj ki tarikh pe do desh ladhai ke liye jaate hai.
00:45Toh jab do desh ladhai ke liye jaayenge toh kuch humein aise end state di jayegi ya bataya
00:49jayega ki bhi aapko yeh achieve karna hai.
00:52Toh jo desh jayega, wo humein end state di jayegi aur us end state ke liye us army ko
00:58ya us fauj ko ya us desh ko apni tyari karni padega ya nahi, empower karna padega.
01:03Aur jis cheez ke liye mujhe empower kiya jayega, us ke liye mein karwai kar hoon.
01:06Dr. Virendra Moitra You didn't really answer that question.
01:09If the end state is, can POK become a part of the Indian Republic?
01:15As Chief of the Indian Armed Forces, what's your response?
01:18My answer remains the same which I have given earlier.
01:23General, if I may, so we've spoken of China, we've spoken of the China-Pakistan tango,
01:29but has the threat for India actually increased that now there's a China-Pakistan tango and
01:36there's a Pakistan-Bangladesh tango?
01:38So we were talking about a two and a half front war,
01:41are we now looking at a three and a half front tensions on ground?
01:48This is in English, na?
01:50Okay.
01:52So as far as the army is concerned, the three tasks which are there to keep our frontiers secure.
02:00So we are sharing frontiers with so many countries.
02:03So when it comes to our capability, our capability should be able to take
02:07care of the capabilities of the neighboring nations.
02:10And that is what our army should be prepared for.
02:13Now coming on to specifically what you asked for Bangladesh,
02:16as for the Bangladesh is concerned, it is too early for to take any decision for us.
02:21Because let elected government come, let's see the relationship
02:25and let us see what could be done about it.
02:27Because as far as I am concerned, I am very clear, the present military-to-military
02:32relationship is very strong and we keep exchanging notes on regular basis
02:37to avoid any kind of a misgivings.
02:40Now the second point what you have brought out is basically the collaboration or kind of a
02:45relationship between our western neighbor and Bangladesh.
02:48As far as I am concerned, since I have said that the epicenter of terrorism
02:53is in some particular country, if they have relationship with anyone of my neighboring
02:57country, I should be looking worried.
02:59Because as far as I am concerned, the terrorism route can be used from that country also,
03:04which is my major concern as of today.
03:06Q. Sir, the government has set a deadline of March 2026 for when they think that Naxalism,
03:13left-wing extremism will be dealt with and finished.
03:16Do you have in your mind a similar deadline for when you think that in Kashmir terrorism
03:24can be finished?
03:25Because local recruitment is down substantially.
03:27Some say it's down to a trickle.
03:30Do you see that happen?
03:31What would it take to make it happen?
03:32How soon can it happen?
03:33A.K.
03:34See, what is important is when terrorism will finish is dependent on so many indicators.
03:40Is the economic development taking place?
03:42Are the politicians able to take their own decisions?
03:45They are not doing it under duress.
03:47Is police free to carry out their actions?
03:50Are the tourists who are going, they don't need any kind of protection?
03:54The kind of a road opening which is being carried out is still being carried out and
03:58when is it likely to continue?
04:00So these indicators which are there are telling us that there is a major hope.
04:05And in the age of acceleration, the changes which has taken place from after the 5th August
04:092019 have been phenomenal.
04:12So it's difficult to fix the time period because at times the violence level comes
04:18down to the level what you may have in metropolitan cities.
04:22So but since there is a third country involved, till the time the third country is involved,
04:27it may keep on simmering at various levels.
04:29So at times, it is for the government and the military to say, okay, now is the time
04:34the military can withdraw and police is capable of handling the situation.
04:38So let me build on that further.
04:39Do you think like we've seen with some states in the northeast,
04:42the time has now come where the army feels confident for the civil administration to
04:46revoke AFSPA and for the local police to take over the job of law and order in the
04:52Union Territory of Jammu and Kashmir?
04:55It's highly possible.
04:56In what time frame is something what we look into?
04:58See, what we have to understand, firstly, we were looking at Poonch Rajouri area,
05:02Doda Kishtwada area.
05:03If you see that, we were looking at these areas will not have any kind of terrorism coming back.
05:08To the extent that bed and breakfast kind of accommodation will be prepared there for
05:12the tourists to come.
05:12The Mughal road we were looking at, this will be used in a big way.
05:15But what has happened?
05:17Today, we have inducted 15,000 additional troops there to curb the kind of terrorism
05:22which has come in.
05:23So what it means that it will take its own time.
05:26And when we have the AFSPA removed, that is something which will be a kind of a decision
05:31taken between the local government there, the Home Ministry and the…
05:35Let me frame it differently.
05:38Would you feel comfortable if there is a conversation at this time between Chief Minister
05:44Omar Abdullah, the Home Ministry and the armed forces for a conversation to begin for the
05:50revocation of AFSPA in Jammu and Kashmir?
05:53See, it has to start…
05:55How Assam it happened?
05:57How in Manipur it happened?
05:58If you see Manipur, as far as the Imphal is concerned, the AFSPA was removed to a place
06:04or to begin with, the police was there but the AFSPA was not removed.
06:07So that in case it is required for military to move in, you can move in.
06:11Similarly, if you see in the areas of Jammu, is military omnipresent to carry out the city
06:16ops?
06:16No.
06:17If the AFSPA is there but the police is there to carry out the operation.
06:21So before we remove the AFSPA, there is a transitional stage.
06:24The transitional stage is that the police should feel confident that we should be able
06:28to do it.
06:29As and when the army feels that they are no more required and there is adequate proof
06:34to say so, the army will say, okay, AFSPA can be removed.