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00:00Well, thank you very much.
00:05It's an honor to have President Zelensky of Ukraine.
00:10And we've been working very hard, very close.
00:12So we've actually known each other for a long time.
00:14We've been dealing with each other for a long time and very well.
00:18We had little negotiations, but that worked out great, I think, for both countries.
00:24I think for the world, actually, beyond both countries.
00:28But we have something that is a very fair deal.
00:32And we look forward to getting in and digging, digging, digging, and working and getting
00:37some of the rare earth.
00:39But it means we're going to be inside, and it's a big commitment from the United States.
00:44And we appreciate working with you very much.
00:48And we will continue to do that.
00:50We have had some very good discussions with Russia.
00:53I spoke with President Putin, and we're going to try and bring this to a close.
00:58It's something that you want and that he wants.
01:00We have to negotiate a deal.
01:02But we've started the confines of a deal, and I think something can happen.
01:08The big thing is the number of soldiers, mostly at this point, but soldiers being killed.
01:14You're losing thousands of soldiers on both sides.
01:16We're losing a lot of soldiers, and we want to see it stop.
01:20And we want to see the money get put to different kinds of use, like rebuilding, the rebuilding.
01:26And we're going to be working very hard.
01:29But we've had a lot of very good conversations.
01:31I will say, until we came along, the Biden administration didn't speak to Russia whatsoever.
01:36They didn't speak to anybody.
01:37They just allowed this to continue.
01:41And I will say that I'll say in front of you, you've heard me say it a thousand times.
01:46If I were president, this war would have never happened.
01:49We would have had a deal negotiated for you without having to go through what you've gone through.
01:55But your soldiers have been unbelievably brave.
01:58We've given them great equipment, but somebody has to use the equipment.
02:01They've been unbelievably brave, and we give them great credit.
02:06This was supposed to be over very quickly, and here we are three years later.
02:11So I give tremendous credit to your generals and your soldiers and yourself in the sense
02:17that it's been very hard fighting, very tough fighting, great fighters.
02:24And you have to be very proud of them from that standpoint.
02:27But now we want to get it over with.
02:29It's enough.
02:30Right?
02:31We want to get it over with.
02:32So it's an honor to have you here.
02:34Thank you very much for coming.
02:35We're going to sign the agreement at the conference in the East Room in a little while, right
02:42after lunch.
02:44And we'll be having lunch together.
02:46We're also discussing some other things.
02:49And we appreciate everybody being here.
02:51It's a somewhat of an exciting moment.
02:53But the really exciting moment is when we get a when they stop the shooting and we end
02:58up with a deal.
02:59And I think we're fairly close to getting that and an honor to have you and please like
03:04to say something.
03:06Thank you so much, Mr. President.
03:07Thank you for invitation.
03:10And really, I hope that this document, first document, will be first step to real security
03:17guarantees for Ukraine, our people, our children.
03:20I really count on it.
03:22And of course, we count that America will not stop support.
03:25Really, for us, it's very important to support and to continue it.
03:30I want to discuss it with details further during our conversation.
03:35And of course, the infrastructure or security guarantees.
03:38Because for today, I understand what Europe is ready to do.
03:41And of course, I want to discuss with you what United States will be ready to do.
03:46And I really count on your strong position to stop Putin.
03:51And you said that enough with the war.
03:53I think that it's very important, Ben, to say these words to Putin at the very beginning
03:58– at the very beginning of war, because he is a killer and terrorist.
04:02And I hope that together we can stop him.
04:05But for us, it's very important to save our country, our values, our freedom and democracy.
04:13And of course, no compromises with the killer about our territories.
04:18But it will be later.
04:20And of course, what I wanted – you know we spoke about it by phone with you about
04:24the drones production.
04:26We have very good drones production.
04:27I think the best one in the world for today because of the war.
04:31Yes.
04:32And of course, we need very much the air defense.
04:36You have the best air defense in the world.
04:38And really, you helped us under attacks of Russians.
04:41And I want to speak how we can exchange the licenses.
04:44We are open to share the licenses of all our drones with you, of course, with the United
04:50States.
04:51And we need licenses for quick production of air defense.
04:54Even after the war, we need our nation to be calm, that we are secure.
04:59So that's why we need this air shield.
05:02And of course, about this – I want to speak about the contingents.
05:06I think that France and UK already spoke to you.
05:10And we know that Europe is ready.
05:12But without United States, they will not be ready to be as strong as we need.
05:18And the last point, last not least, about exchange, about our people and children.
05:25And you know that these crazy Russians, that they stolen 20,000 of children, Ukrainian
05:30children.
05:31They changed their names.
05:33They changed their – their families, relatives, and now they're in Russia.
05:38We want to bring them back.
05:40And really, it's a big, big dream, task and goal for me and our warriors.
05:46We – by the way, Mr. President, we brought – we exchanged, we – yes, released more
05:52than 4,000 warriors from Russian prison, but there are thousands more in the prison.
05:58I wanted to share with you some images, how it's – just – can I now?
06:06Yeah, please.
06:07Please.
06:08One minute.
06:09One minute.
06:10I just you to understand what the – in what circumstances, in what situation they are
06:15and what the attitude of Russia to our prisoners.
06:19And guys, just you before, before and after, and you see before and after, just you to
06:26understand.
06:27Now thousands of such guys, ladies and men, they are – and that – so they don't
06:33eat.
06:34They beat them and they do a lot of bad things.
06:40So out of – even during the war, there are rules.
06:44Everybody knows there are rules during the war.
06:46These guys, they don't have any rules.
06:49You see that?
06:5050, 60 kilograms left and a lot of such things.
06:55And I didn't want to show you what the changes with images of children, because I will share
07:01– just share with you, I mean, it's looking tragic.
07:05Yeah.
07:06That's tough stuff.
07:07Yeah.
07:08Yeah.
07:09I wanted very much to give you and you see it.
07:13This is pastor, by the way.
07:14They stolen pastors, because it's not Russian church.
07:17They stolen pastors and moved pastors to the prison.
07:20We – at the end of last year, we brought three pastors and we could exchange them.
07:29This is pastor, you see.
07:30Yeah.
07:31That's tough.
07:32Yeah.
07:33So I mean this.
07:34I wanted to show you and this.
07:36So thank you very much.
07:37We want to get that entered, right?
07:39Yeah.
07:40Yeah.
07:41Of course.
07:42Of course.
07:43I think we will.
07:44We will get that, of course.
07:45Do you have any questions, please?
07:46Thank you, Mr. President.
07:47With the – how much money is the U.S. going to put into the fund that's being created
07:48today?
07:49And how does this provide long-term security for Ukraine?
07:50Well, we don't know exactly how much, because we're going to be putting some money in
08:03a fund that we're going to get from the raw earth that we're going to be taking
08:08and sharing in terms of revenue.
08:10So it's going to be a lot of money will be made from the sale and from the use of
08:14raw earth.
08:15And as you know, our country doesn't have much raw earth.
08:18We have a lot of oil and gas, but we don't have a lot of the raw earth.
08:23And what we do have is protected by the environmentalists, but that could be unprotected.
08:28But still, it's not very much.
08:31They have among the best in the world in terms of raw earth.
08:35So we're going to be using that, taking it, using it for all of the things we do,
08:40including AI and including weapons and the military.
08:44And it's really going to very much satisfy our needs.
08:47So it's something that just worked out really well.
08:50We have a lot of oil and we have a lot of gas.
08:52We have a lot, but we don't have raw earth.
08:54So this has just about every component of the raw earth that we need for computers,
09:01for all of the things we do.
09:03This puts us in great shape.
09:04And on long term security, how is this provided?
09:05I think they're going to have great luck.
09:09I think once we make the agreement, that's going to be 95 percent of it.
09:12It's they're not going to go back to fighting.
09:15I've spoken with President Putin and I think I mean, I feel very strong.
09:20I've known him for a long time and I feel very strongly that they're very serious about
09:25it and we'll make a deal.
09:27And when the deal is made, I don't think we talk about security.
09:31Everyone's talking about the other day.
09:32All they talked about was security.
09:33I said, let me make the deal first.
09:35I have to make the deal first.
09:36I don't worry about security right now.
09:38I have to we have to have a deal because right now, last week, two thousand soldiers died
09:43on both sides, two thousand.
09:46And they're losing a thousand, two thousand, three thousand a week.
09:50So as we sit here and we talk, people are getting shot and dying on the battlefield.
09:55And you know, they're not American soldiers, but they're Russian soldiers and the Ukrainian
09:59soldiers.
10:00And we want to be able to stop it.
10:03And we want to be able also to spend money on other things.
10:06We don't want to.
10:07This is a tremendous amount of money.
10:08And what the Biden administration did was terrible.
10:12They were giving money, but he had no security on the money.
10:14Europe, as you know, gave much less money, but they had security.
10:17It was in the form of a loan.
10:20They get their money back and we didn't.
10:21And now at least we're protected because the American taxpayer has to be protected, too.
10:27But this is an incredible agreement for Ukraine because we have a big investment in their
10:35country now.
10:36And what what they have, very few people have.
10:40And we're able to really go forward with very, very high tech things and many other things,
10:46including weaponry, weaponry that we're going to use in many locations, but that we need
10:51for our country.
10:52This allows this allows us to do that.
10:55Will you continue?
10:56Will you continue?
10:57I'm sorry.
10:58I'm sorry.
10:59Can I?
11:00Yes, go ahead, please.
11:01If I can just say, yes, in the document, there is one of the very important points.
11:07If we speak about business and investment, we never had LNG terminals in Ukraine.
11:14This document will open.
11:15I mean, the next document.
11:16But anyway, here when you're in Zelensky, do you feel like the U.S. is on your side
11:23that the president's Trump is on your side at this at this moment?
11:31What do you think?
11:32He wants to know, do you think that sort of a stupid question, because I guess I guess
11:37we wouldn't be here if I wasn't.
11:40I think that I think that the United States on our side from the very beginning of occupation.
11:47And I think that President Trump on our side and and of course, I'm not I'm sure that United
11:54States president will not stop support.
11:57This is crucial for us.
11:58It's important for us.
12:00Yes.
12:01And Putin, the president speaks about the people and the soldiers which are dying.
12:05But they came to our territory.
12:06They came to our land.
12:07They began this war and they have to stop.
12:11And I think this is the question was really the most important question.
12:17Can President Trump, I hope, yes, with some other allies to stop Putin withdraw these
12:23enemies, our enemy, withdraw these troops from our land.
12:28And I think that you asked about the history.
12:31I think that if president or when he will stop Putin, if President Trump will bring
12:37peace to our country, I think he will be on this wall.
12:42We've had very, very good talks.
12:48What about military aid to Ukraine?
12:50President Zelensky just said that there'd be no compromises with Vladimir Putin.
12:57I just wanted to ask both of you, firstly, are there compromises that you think that
13:01President Zelensky is going to have to make President Zelensky?
13:04Is there anything that you might be thinking that you may be able to offer or bring to
13:07the table?
13:08For example, elections.
13:10I think you're going to have to always make compromises.
13:12You can't do any deals without compromises.
13:15So certainly he's going to have to make some compromises.
13:17But hopefully they won't be as big as some people think you're going to have to make.
13:22So it's all we can do.
13:23I'm here as a as an arbitrator, as a mediator, to a certain extent between two parties that
13:29have been very hostile, to put it mildly.
13:32They've been very hostile.
13:33It's been a vicious war.
13:34It's been a vicious war.
13:36You know, it's a very level battlefield.
13:38And those bullets go out.
13:40And as I've said many times, we're talking about it with Pete.
13:44Many times, the only thing stopping those bullets is a human body.
13:48And in the case we're talking about, generally, young human bodies are stopping a lot of bullets.
13:53It's dead level.
13:54That's what why it's great farmland.
13:56It's great land.
13:57It's great farmland.
13:58But there's very little protection against the bullets that are being and other things
14:02that are being shot.
14:04So all I can do is see if I can get everybody at the table and get an agreement.
14:09And I think we're going to end up with an agreement.
14:11Otherwise, I wouldn't probably be even here today.
14:14If I Mr. President, I got two questions for you.
14:20Do you think ultimately your legacy will be the peacemaker and not the president that
14:25led this country into another war and ended the foreign wars?
14:30I hope it will.
14:32I mean, I hope I'm going to be remembered as a peacemaker.
14:37This is this would be a great thing if we could do this.
14:39I'm doing this to save lives more than anything else.
14:43Second is to save a lot of money.
14:44But I consider that to be far less important.
14:47So I hope I'm going to thank you, Brian, for that question was a nice question.
14:51I hope I'll be known and recognized as a peacemaker.
14:54This is this would be a great thing to solve.
14:56This is a very dangerous situation.
14:59You know, this could lead to a third world war.
15:02This is this was headed in the wrong direction.
15:05If this election were lost, if we didn't win this election and by we won it by a lot, that
15:10was a mandate.
15:11We won every swing state.
15:12We won the popular vote by millions and millions of votes.
15:16We won everything.
15:17The districts, you look at the areas of red, take a look at a map.
15:22This was a big mandate.
15:23And this is one of the things I said, we're going to get this thing settled.
15:28If we didn't win, I think this would have this could have very well ended up in a third
15:32world war.
15:33And that would not that would not have been a good situation.
15:37What was your second question?
15:38My second question for President Zelensky.
15:39Why don't you wear a suit?
15:40Why?
15:41Why don't you wear a suit?
15:42You're the highest level in this country's office and you refuse to wear a suit.
15:43Do you own a suit?
15:44Yeah.
15:45Yeah.
15:46Problems.
15:47A lot of Americans have problems.
15:48Really?
15:49I don't have such.
15:50I will wear a costume after this war will finish.
16:01Yes.
16:02Maybe.
16:03Well, maybe something like yours.
16:06Yes.
16:07Maybe some something better.
16:08I don't know.
16:09We will see.
16:10Maybe something cheaper than.
16:12Yeah.
16:17Thank you, Mr. President, I need to send more to Ukraine in case there's no peace.
16:23Yeah, we're going to have arms to Ukraine.
16:26Yeah.
16:27Sure.
16:28Hopefully, I won't have to send very much because hopefully we're going to have it finished.
16:31We're looking forward to finishing this quickly.
16:34We're not looking forward to sending a lot of arms.
16:36We're looking forward to getting the war finished so we can do other things.
16:41But we very much appreciate the agreement because we needed what they had.
16:46And we're treating, you know, our country is now treated fairly.
16:50Biden didn't do that.
16:51Biden didn't.
16:52He didn't know what the hell he was doing.
16:53This should have never happened.
16:54This should have never started.
16:55But you know, sure, the answer is yes.
16:58But hopefully we won't have to send much because I'm looking forward to get it done, getting
17:04it done quickly, very quickly.
17:07I don't want to talk about security yet because I want to get the deal done.
17:13You know, you fall into the same trap like everybody else a million times.
17:16You said over and over.
17:18I want to get the deal done.
17:20Security is so easy.
17:21That's about 2 percent of the problem.
17:23I'm not worried about security.
17:25I'm worried about getting the deal done.
17:27The security is the easy part.
17:29Security is very nice.
17:30Everybody stops shooting.
17:32And now with Europe, put people there.
17:33I know France is going to.
17:35I know the U.K. is going to.
17:37I know other countries are going to and they happen to be right next door.
17:40We haven't committed, but we could conceivably, you know, we have security in a different
17:45form.
17:46We'll have workers there digging, digging, digging, taking the raw earth so that we can
17:51create a lot of great product in this country.
17:55So in that sense, you have something.
17:56But we haven't determined that yet.
17:58I will say in speaking to France and in speaking to and they were here, as you know, last week
18:04and just the other day, they have committed to a lot of security.
18:10I don't think you're going to need much security.
18:12I think once this deal gets done, it's over.
18:15Russia is not going to want to go back and nobody's going to want to go back when this
18:19when this deal ends.
18:20I really believe this deal is is going to be over.
18:22I will.
18:23Yeah.
18:24Please go ahead.
18:26Go ahead.
18:30I love this guy.
18:47Who are you with?
18:49Well, that's why I like him.
18:52One American is a great job.
18:53That's very I like the question.
18:55I think it's a very good question.
18:57It is.
18:58It's a pathway to peace.
18:59It's a pathway to getting something solved.
19:03And I feel that as the head of this country, I have an obligation to do that.
19:06Plus, you know, we're very much involved.
19:09We got involved.
19:11It's too bad we got involved because there should have been no involvement because there
19:14should have been no war and there shouldn't have been October 7th.
19:18That would have never happened.
19:19As you know, Iran was broke.
19:21They had no money to give to Hezbollah.
19:23They had no money to give to Hamas.
19:25They were stone cold broke.
19:28And then under Biden, they became rich as hell.
19:31They went from no money to 300 billion dollars in a period of four years.
19:38And they gave a lot of that money away.
19:39And you see what happened.
19:40And that's a real mess also that we hope to be able to solve.
19:45But no, I appreciate your question very much.
19:48I just I feel I have an obligation to try and do something to stop the death.
19:53If I can, if I can answer, yes, if I can answer.
19:58Please, please.
19:59And I do like your clothing.
20:00Yeah.
20:01Really?
20:02Even I have to.
20:03I think he's a great guy, by the way.
20:05I don't know if you two like each other, but you know what?
20:08I think I like this guy.
20:10I think he's dressed.
20:11So I have more.
20:13I have more serious things than answer on such a question.
20:16I will answer on more serious questions if I can.
20:19Yeah.
20:20So please.
20:21About security guarantees and about just ceasefire.
20:25We can't just speak about ceasefire and speak and speak will not work.
20:30Justicefire will not never work because I'm like a president.
20:34I have I have this experience and not only me Ukraine before before my presidency from
20:40the 2014 Putin broken 25 times, 25 times.
20:46He broken his own signature 25 times.
20:51He broke and ceasefire.
20:52But he never wrote to me.
20:54Never.
20:55He was the president.
20:56He was the president.
20:57He never broke to me.
20:58In 2016, you will be in the president, Mr. President, you've been the president.
21:01But he he had, of course, not with you.
21:04But he had during those period, he had conversations with our side and we had Normandy format,
21:11you know, the France, Germany, Ukraine and Russia.
21:13And he broken 25 times.
21:16That's why we will never accept just ceasefire.
21:19It will not work without security guarantees.
21:22Security guarantees.
21:23Maybe the president is right about this document and other.
21:27But this document is not enough.
21:29Strong army is enough because he soldiers afraid Putin soldiers afraid of our soldiers
21:34when we're strong enough.
21:35If we are not strong, strong enough, we are empty.
21:38If our storage is empty, we can't defend our our land today.
21:43You know, he knows that we have me all the world knows that we have meeting.
21:47Yes.
21:49Putin today using ballistic on our hospitals, schools and ballistic.
21:55So he knows that we are here and that President Trump is really have goodwill to stop to stop
22:01this war.
22:02And you hear now the president.
22:05So why he's using so he doesn't want to stop.
22:08He doesn't want.
22:09But I hope that we will do it really will do it.
22:12Security when we speak about security guarantees, when the Europeans are ready for contingence,
22:17they need USA backstop.
22:21If there will not be United States, we will not never have any contingent strong contingent
22:26from the Europeans because they don't want to divide alliance connection between the
22:30United States and the main and strongest ally and Europeans.
22:36This is crucial.
22:37This is important.
22:38That's what we want to speak about very much.
22:41This is very important.
22:42And they are defense.
22:45So air defense, really, we have big deficit with all the systems and we need to provide
22:50this.
22:51We need this very much.
22:53Otherwise, Putin will never stop and will go further and further.
22:57He doesn't want.
22:58He hate us.
22:59You know, it's not about me.
23:00He hate Ukrainians.
23:02He thinks that we are not a nation.
23:05He thinks and he shared this source.
23:06I think maybe with your team also.
23:08I don't know.
23:09With all the Europeans in media, officially and not, he always said that there is no such
23:15country, such nation, such language and such life like Ukrainian.
23:20No, he really doesn't respect all the Ukrainians and he wants to destroy us.
23:27And you are right, Mr. President, that's two percent.
23:32This document, maybe other documents, it's a very good start, very good, but it will
23:37not enough to stop this person.
23:40Mr. President, may I have one more question, please?
23:47They have to pay.
23:48This is the rule.
23:49This is the rule of the war.
23:51This is the rule of the war.
23:53During all the centuries, all the history, this is the rule of the war.
23:56Who began those pay.
24:00This is the rule.
24:01Putin began this war.
24:02He has to pay all money for innovation.
24:05He has to pay.
24:06Of course, some Russian assets, what we have in Europe, about 300 billion, we can use them.
24:14We can use for innovation and buy military support from the United States also.
24:18We can do it, but it's not enough.
24:21It's not enough.
24:22I ask this question that you didn't like, because I wanted to know.
24:26Go ahead, please.
24:27Wait one second.
24:28I ask this question that you didn't like, because I wanted to know if you want to position
24:34yourself in the middle between Russia, Ukraine or on the Ukraine side.
24:38No, I'm in the middle.
24:40I want to solve this thing.
24:41I'm for I'm for both.
24:42I want to get it solved.
24:44And it's wonderful to speak badly about somebody else.
24:50But I want to get it solved.
24:52If we can solve it, great.
24:53If we can't solve it, they're going to have to fight it out.
24:56And who knows what's going to happen?
24:58But I want to see it get solved.
25:01One more question about U.S. troops in Europe.
25:04After the Russian invasion of Ukraine, your predecessors sent additional troops to Eastern
25:10Europe, including Poland, my country.
25:13Are you committed to keeping these troops on the eastern flank of NATO in the future?
25:22I'm very committed to Poland.
25:24I think Poland has really stepped up and done a great job for NATO.
25:28As you know, they paid more than they had to.
25:31They are one of the finest groups of people I've ever known.
25:35I'm very committed to Poland.
25:38Poland's in a tough neighborhood, you know, the Baltics, the Baltics, the Atlantic.
25:45It's a tough neighborhood, too.
25:47But we're committed.
25:48We're going to be very committed and we're committed to NATO.
25:52But NATO has to step up and the Europeans have to step up more than they have.
25:56And I want to see them equalize because they are in for far less than we're in.
26:00And they should be at least equal.
26:02You understand that?
26:04Why is the United States, we have an ocean in between.
26:07Why is the United States in for so much more money and other things as Europe?
26:12With that being said, and as you said, they've also been obviously very helpful.
26:16But we have put in far more than they have.
26:19And I think they should equalize.
26:21Mr. President, on the agreement today, what changed between the first time that Secretary
26:27Besant gave President Zelensky the agreement and today for the signing?
26:32We made a deal.
26:33So what was it?
26:34I'm just, I'm a business person.
26:37We made a deal.
26:38That's what changed.
26:40I didn't think we were going to make a deal.
26:42And we ended up making the deal.
26:45So that changed.
26:46Mr. President, how do you envision a trilateral summit with President Zelensky?
26:50I don't know.
26:52Well, they don't like each other.
26:53I can tell you that.
26:54They do not like each other.
26:55This is not a love match.
26:58And it's unfortunate.
26:59That's why you're in this situation.
27:02The United States should not have allowed this to happen.
27:05Okay.
27:06The United States, run by a man that didn't know much, I'm going to be very nice, run
27:14by an incompetent person, very incompetent person should never have allowed this to happen.
27:21I've stopped wars.
27:22I've stopped many wars.
27:23My people will tell you, I stopped wars that nobody ever heard about.
27:26I stopped wars before they ever started.
27:29You can look at some of, some of, I could give you a lot of nations that would tell
27:33you right now they were probably going to war.
27:35I could tell you right now there's a nation thinking about going to war on something that
27:40nobody in this room has ever even heard about.
27:43Two smaller nations, but big, still big.
27:46And I think I've stopped it.
27:49But this should have never happened.
27:51About, sorry, just a second, about any negotiations, first of all, I want, I want really to tell
27:59you, and I think that everybody understand that Ukraine, more than Ukrainians, nobody
28:05wants to stop this war.
28:07But the future, any negotiations, it's understandable that two sides of the war, not Russia and
28:16the United States, because this is not the war between Russia and the United States.
28:20This is war of Russia against Ukraine and Ukrainian people.
28:23So these two sides will be, anyway, will be at the negotiation, a negotiation table.
28:30Then, of course, United States, like the strongest partner of the Ukraine.
28:36And of course, Europe.
28:38I think Europe is very important.
28:40I want to speak about it with the President.
28:42Yes, Europe is very important for us, because we really defend Europe for today.
28:47All Europeans really recognize that we are defending the line, and they have real life,
28:54and our people are dying.
28:55That's why they helped us.
28:57And also, it's about the need, yes, between, like the President said, you have big, nice
29:04ocean, yes, between us.
29:07But if we will not stay, Russia will go further to Baltics and to Poland, by the way, but
29:13first to the Baltics.
29:14It's understandable for them, because they've been in the USSR.
29:19You know, they've been one of the republics of the USSR, and Putin wants to bring them
29:25back to his empire.
29:26It's a fact.
29:27And when he will go there, if we will not stay, you will fight.
29:31You're American soldiers.
29:34It doesn't matter.
29:35Do you have ocean or not?
29:37Your soldiers will fight.
29:38Mr. President, would you be willing to visit Ukraine, maybe Kiev, or Odessa, which is known
29:42to be a very European place?
29:44It was my question.
29:47I don't want to talk about Odessa now.
29:49Let's not talk about Odessa.
29:51I want to talk about making a deal, getting peace.
29:54We don't have to talk about Odessa.
29:56But a lot of cities have been destroyed.
29:58There are a lot of cities that are not recognizable.
30:01There's not a building standing.
30:03And a lot of things have happened.
30:04No, no.
30:05You have to come, Mr. President.
30:06You have to come and to look.
30:08I don't know.
30:09We have very good cities.
30:10Yes, a lot of things have been destroyed, but mostly cities are alive and people work
30:16and children go to school.
30:18Sometimes it's very difficult.
30:19Sometimes closer to front line, children have to go to underground schools or online.
30:25But we live.
30:27Ukraine is fighting and Ukraine lives.
30:29This is very important.
30:30And maybe it's Putin sharing this information that he destroyed us.
30:35He lost 700,000 people, 700,000 soldiers.
30:40He lost everything.
30:41Yes.
30:42Mr. President.
30:43Mr. President.
30:44One more.
30:45Mr. President.
30:47Please go ahead.
30:48When did you last speak with President Putin?
30:50And what did he say?
30:51A couple of days ago.
30:52And what did he tell you that gave you the assurance that he wanted peace?
30:55Well, that's what I do.
30:56My whole life is deals.
30:58I know pretty good.
31:00And I really I've I've known him for a long time.
31:03I've dealt with him for a long time.
31:06He had to suffer through the Russia hoax.
31:08You know, Russia, Russia, Russia was a hoax.
31:11It was all Biden.
31:12It was nothing to do with him.
31:13So he had to suffer through that.
31:15And he he was able to do that.
31:17I think that he wants to make a deal and he'd like to see it.
31:21And it's all I do.
31:23That's what I do.
31:24My whole life.
31:25That's what I do is make deals.
31:26And I'm in the middle of a mess because this is a real mess.
31:30It's a very dangerous one.
31:32If this doesn't get solved now, it's not going to get solved for a long time.
31:36So I hope we're going to I hope we're going to get it solved in the back, please.
31:39Thank you, Mr. President.
31:40Prime Minister Stormer claims repeatedly that his government believes in free speech and
31:41was not engaged in censorship.
31:42But his country's government arrests people for memes and thought crimes, and even more
31:43worrisome is pressuring American companies to censor Americans on its behalf.
31:44How can you be a reliable, trustworthy partner when he says things that are demonstrably
31:45false?
31:46I mean, you know, he's been in the White House for a long time.
31:47He's been in the White House for a long time.
31:48He's been in the White House for a long time.
31:49He's been in the White House for a long time.
31:50He's been in the White House for a long time.
31:51Well, we actually spoke to him about that yesterday, and we thought they took it very,
32:08very much too far.
32:09J.D. was very strong on it.
32:12So was I.
32:13So was Marco.
32:15And we've been speaking to him about it.
32:16Marco, would you like to say something about it?
32:18We have concerns, obviously, with the conduct of those, particularly as it impacts Americans.
32:23And there's real concern that American speech, which is online, could fall into the hands
32:27of the British or any country's jurisdiction.
32:28And so this is a point the Vice President made in Munich, and I think it's a very compelling
32:29one that unites us with Europe, as much as anything else, is these shared values, and
32:30one of them being free speech.
32:31And so if Americans are threatened by it, we're going to need to take action in that
32:32regard.
32:33J.D.?
32:34It's a big...
32:35It's actually a very important question.
32:49We spoke about this in detail with the Prime Minister, the Foreign Secretary, and others
32:52at lunch yesterday.
32:53And I know that Secretary of Commerce Lettnick followed up in private meetings last night.
32:59This is really important.
33:01We believe Americans have the right to speak their mind, even if we in this room disagree
33:05with them.
33:06They have the right to speak their mind in the public square, which is often online these
33:09days.
33:10And we're going to defend that right as it pertains to American companies and American
33:13citizens vigorously if we have to.
33:16I do think that under the President's leadership, we're going to find common ground with our
33:20friends in the U.K. on this question, but it remains to be seen.
33:23The principle that will guide us is we believe in free speech in this country, and we'll
33:28fight for it for American citizens.
33:29Mr. President, on the deal, is there any other oil and gas component to the deal?
33:30Is it all critical...
33:31A little bit.
33:32We'll see.
33:33On LNG?
33:34But we're not really looking for that so much.
33:35We've got a lot.
33:36We have more than anybody in the world, by far.
33:37So, no, we're not talking about it too much, but a little bit.
33:38I think it affects us a little bit.
33:39I think it affects us a little bit.
33:40I think it affects us a little bit.
33:41I think it affects us a little bit.
33:42So, no, we're not talking about it too much, but a little bit.
33:44I think it affects also, but for the most part, no.
33:48And, sir, is there any agreement from Ukraine to purchase U.S. LNG as part of the deal?
33:56Is that on the table at all?
33:58No.
33:59No.
34:00We don't need that.
34:01Mr. President, I just wanted to ask you about...
34:02You just mentioned that you'd spoken to Vladimir Putin a couple of days ago.
34:04Just to be clear, that's a new call, not the one that you...
34:07I've spoken to him on numerous occasions.
34:10Okay.
34:11What was the latest call?
34:12And what did you discuss?
34:13How did it go?
34:14Are you serious with that question?
34:15I am.
34:16I'd love to know.
34:17It went well.
34:18I think we're going to have a deal.
34:19On the minerals deal, Mr. President, some of those minerals are in the east of Ukraine,
34:20not far from the front lines and in areas that Russia...
34:21A very good question.
34:22Thank you so much.
34:23Will you direct President Putin to withdraw his forces from those areas if there's U.S.
34:24interference?
34:25Well, we'll take a look at the time.
34:26We have a lot of area.
34:27It's a very big area we're talking about.
34:28So, we'll take a look.
34:29And who would protect those minerals if they are U.S. interest?
34:45Would that be Ukraine or Russia?
34:46They'll be protected.
34:47The agreement will protect them.
34:48The U.S. agreement?
34:49The agreement, yeah.
34:50We're signing an agreement.
34:51So you're saying that if Russia tries to invade or orders Russia to crush, they'll respond?
34:54I just told you.
34:55I don't think that's going to happen.
34:56And if that were going to happen, I wouldn't make a deal.
34:58If I thought that was going to happen, I wouldn't make a deal.
35:02You know, they ought to focus on CNN on survival, not asking me these ridiculous questions.
35:09Focus on surviving because CNN has got such low ratings.
35:12I don't think they're going to survive.
35:15Let's go.
35:16Please.
35:17Go ahead.
35:18I already mentioned Poland.
35:19Poland was under Russian control for decades after the Second World War.
35:26When I was a kid, I looked at the United States, not only as a most powerful country, the richest
35:33country in the world, the country that has great music, great movies, great muscle cars,
35:39but also as a force for good.
35:43And now I'm talking with my friends in Poland, and they are worried that you align yourself
35:48too much with Putin.
35:50What's your message for them?
35:53Well, if I didn't align myself with both of them, you'd never have a deal.
35:59You want me to say really terrible things about Putin and then say, hi, Vladimir, how
36:04are we doing on the deal?
36:05That doesn't work that way.
36:07I'm not aligned with Putin.
36:08I'm not aligned with anybody.
36:10I'm aligned with the United States of America.
36:12And for the good of the world, I'm aligned with the world.
36:16And I want to get this thing over with.
36:17You see the hatred he's got for Putin.
36:19It's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate.
36:22He's got tremendous hatred.
36:24And I understand that.
36:25But I can tell you the other side isn't exactly in love with, you know, him either.
36:31So it's not a question of alignment.
36:33I have to I'm aligned with the world.
36:36I want to get the thing set.
36:37I'm aligned with Europe.
36:40I want to see if we can get this thing done.
36:43You want me to be tough.
36:44I could be tougher than any human being you've ever seen.
36:46I'd be so tough.
36:47But you're never going to get a deal that way.
36:50So that's the way it goes.
36:52One more question.
36:53Yeah, please.
36:54I will respond to this.
36:55So look, for four years, the United States of America, we had a president who stood up
36:59at press conferences and talked tough about Vladimir Putin.
37:03And then Putin invaded Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country.
37:07The path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy.
37:13We tried the pathway of Joe Biden of thumping our chest and pretending that the president
37:19of the United States' words mattered more than the president of the United States' actions.
37:24What makes America a good country is America engaging in diplomacy.
37:29That's what President Trump is doing.
37:30Can I ask you?
37:31Sure.
37:32Yeah.
37:33Yeah.
37:34OK.
37:35So he occupied our parts, big parts of Ukraine, parts of East and Crimea.
37:43So he occupied it on 2014.
37:47So during a lot of years, I'm not speaking about just Biden, but those time was Obama,
37:55then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now the President Trump
38:00and God bless.
38:01Now President Trump will stop him.
38:03But during 2014, nobody stopped him.
38:06He just occupied and took.
38:07He killed people.
38:08You know what the contact was?
38:102015.
38:112014.
38:12Well, 2014.
38:13Yeah.
38:14So he killed.
38:15I was not here.
38:17Yeah, but during 2014 till 2022, the situation was the same.
38:24People have been dying on the contact line.
38:28Nobody stopped him.
38:29You know that we had conversations with him, a lot of conversation, bilateral conversation.
38:35And we signed with him, me, like a new president.
38:38In 2019, I signed with him the deal.
38:42I signed with him Macron and Merkel.
38:45We signed ceasefire, ceasefire.
38:48All of them told me that he will never go.
38:52We signed him gas contract, gas contract.
38:56Yes, but after that, he broken the ceasefire.
38:59He killed our people and he didn't exchange prisoners.
39:03We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it.
39:07What kind of diplomacy, JD, you are speaking about?
39:11What do you mean?
39:13I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country.
39:16Yes, but if you are not strong...
39:18Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval
39:21Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media.
39:24Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you
39:28have manpower problems.
39:30You should be thanking the president for trying to bring it into this conflict.
39:33Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have?
39:36I have been to...
39:38Come once.
39:39I've actually watched and seen the stories and I know what happens is you bring people,
39:45you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President.
39:48Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military?
39:51We have problems.
39:52Do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of
39:56America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your
40:00country?
40:01A lot of questions.
40:02Let's start from the beginning.
40:03Sure.
40:04First of all, during the war, everybody has problems, even you.
40:08But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future.
40:13God bless.
40:14You don't know that.
40:15God bless.
40:16God bless.
40:17You will not have a war.
40:18Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
40:20We're trying to solve a problem.
40:21Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
40:23I'm not telling you.
40:24Because you're in no position to dictate that.
40:26Remember this.
40:27I'm not dictating.
40:28You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
40:32You were going to feel very good.
40:33You will feel influence.
40:34We're going to feel very good and very strong.
40:36You will feel influence.
40:37You're right now not in a very good position.
40:40You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position, and he happens to be right about
40:44it.
40:45From the very beginning of the war, Mr. President, I was...
40:46You're not in a good position.
40:47I was...
40:48You don't have the cards right now.
40:50With us, you start having cards.
40:51I'm not playing cards.
40:52But right now, you don't...
40:53I'm very serious, Mr. President.
40:54Yeah, you're playing cards.
40:55I'm very serious.
40:56You're playing cards.
40:57I'm the president of the world.
40:58You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.
40:59You think...
41:00You're gambling with World War III.
41:01What do you think about?
41:02You're gambling with World War III.
41:03What do you think about?
41:04And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country.
41:08I'm with all respect to your words.
41:09It's back to you.
41:10Far more than a lot of people said they should have.
41:13Have you said thank you once?
41:14A lot of times.
41:15No.
41:16Even today.
41:17Even today.
41:18In this entire meeting that you said thank you, you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned
41:20for the opposition in October, offer some words of appreciation for the United States
41:25of America and the president who's trying to save your country.
41:30Please.
41:32You think that if you will speak very loudly about the war, you can...
41:35He's not speaking loudly.
41:36He's not speaking loudly.
41:38Your country is in big trouble.
41:39Can I answer?
41:40No, no.
41:41You've done a lot of talking.
41:42Your country is in big trouble.
41:44I know.
41:45You're not winning.
41:46You're not winning this.
41:47You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us.
41:50Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of
41:55the war.
41:56We've been alone.
41:57And we are thankful.
41:58I said thanks in this cabinet.
41:59You haven't been alone.
42:00You haven't been alone.
42:01We gave you, through the stupid president, $350 billion.
42:05You voted for your president.
42:06We gave you military equipment.
42:07You voted for your president.
42:08And you've met a brave, but they had to use our military.
42:10What about this?
42:11If you didn't have our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment,
42:16this war would have been over in two weeks.
42:19In three days.
42:20I heard it from Putin.
42:21In three days.
42:22This is something you do in two weeks.
42:24Of course, yes.
42:25It's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this.
42:27I tell you.
42:28You didn't say thank you.
42:30I said a lot of times thank you to American people.
42:33Except that there are disagreements.
42:35And let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight it out in the
42:39American media when you're wrong.
42:41We know that you're wrong.
42:42But you see, I think it's good for the American people to see what's going on here.
42:46I think it's very important.
42:47That's why I kept this going so long.
42:50You have to be thankful.
42:51You don't have the cards.
42:52I'm thankful.
42:53You're buried there.
42:55People are dying.
42:56I can tell you again.
42:57You're running low on soldiers.
42:58I know.
42:59You're running low on soldiers.
43:00It would be a damn good thing.
43:02Then you tell us.
43:03I don't want to cease fire.
43:05I don't want to cease fire.
43:06I want to go.
43:07And I wanted this.
43:08Look, if you could get a cease fire right now, I tell you, you take it.
43:12So the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed.
43:15Of course, we want to stop the war.
43:17But you're saying you don't want to cease fire.
43:18But I said to you.
43:19I want to cease fire.
43:20With guarantees.
43:21Because you'll get a cease fire faster than a degree.
43:23Ask our people about cease fire.
43:24What they think.
43:25That wasn't with me.
43:26It doesn't matter for you.
43:27That wasn't with me.
43:29That was with a guy named Biden, who was not a smart person.
43:33That was your.
43:34That was your president.
43:35It was your president.
43:36Excuse me.
43:37That was with Obama, who gave you sheets.
43:38And I gave you javelins.
43:39Yes.
43:40I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks.
43:44Obama gave you sheets.
43:46In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins.
43:51You got to be more thankful.
43:54Because let me tell you, you don't have the cards.
43:56With us, you have the cards.
43:58But without us, you don't have any cards.
44:00One more question.
44:01Mr. Vice President.
44:02I'm sorry.
44:03It's going to be a tough deal to make.
44:06Because the attitudes have to change.
44:07What if Russia breaks the ceasefire?
44:08What if Russia breaks these talks?
44:09What do you do then?
44:10I understand that it's a heated conversation right now.
44:17What are you saying?
44:18She's asking what if Russia breaks the ceasefire?
44:22What if they.
44:23What if anything?
44:24What if a bomb drops on your head right now?
44:26OK.
44:28What if they broke it?
44:29I don't know.
44:30They broke it with Biden because Biden, they didn't respect him.
44:32They didn't respect Obama.
44:34They respect me.
44:36Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me.
44:39He went through a phony witch hunt where they used him and Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
44:44You ever hear of that deal?
44:45That was a phony.
44:47That was a phony Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam.
44:50Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Schiff, it was a Democrat scam.
44:56And he had to go through that.
44:58And he did go through it.
44:59We didn't end up in a war.
45:00And he went through it.
45:01He was accused of all that stuff.
45:03He had nothing to do with it came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom.
45:07It came out of Hunter Biden's bedroom.
45:10It was disgusting.
45:12And then they said, oh, oh, the laptop from hell was made by Russia.
45:18The 51 agents, the whole thing was a scam.
45:21And he had to put up with that.
45:23He was being accused of all that stuff.
45:25All I can say is this.
45:27He might have broken deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have broken them with Biden.
45:33He did.
45:34Maybe.
45:35Maybe he didn't.
45:36I don't know what happened, but he didn't break him with me.
45:37He wants to make a deal.
45:38I don't know if you can make a deal.
45:40The problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy, and I don't think you'd be a tough
45:46guy without the United States.
45:48And your people are very brave, but you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
45:53And if we're out, you'll fight it out.
45:56I don't think it's going to be pretty, but you'll fight it out.
45:59But you don't have the cards.
46:01But once we sign that deal, you're in a much better position, but you're not acting at
46:06all thankful.
46:07And that's not a nice thing.
46:08I'll be honest.
46:09That's not a nice thing.
46:10All right.
46:11I think we've seen enough.
46:13What do you think?
46:14This is this is going to be great television.
46:17I will say that.
46:19All right.
46:20We'll see what we can do about putting it together.
46:24Thanks Janis.
46:30I will say, I don't know.
46:32Guys, come on.
46:33Please.
46:34Hey, come on, let's roll.
46:36Let's roll.
46:37Pete, let's go.
46:38Come on.
46:39Come on.
46:40Come on.
46:41Let's move, please.

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