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00:00Thank you very much.
00:11We very much appreciate the attention.
00:14Today is a big day in that we had a G7, and President Macron was a very special man in
00:22my book.
00:23We were together.
00:25We did it together.
00:27And I think a lot of progress has been made.
00:29We've had some very good talks with Russia.
00:32We've had some very good talks with others, and we're trying to get the war ended with
00:36Russia and Ukraine.
00:37And I think we've come a long way in a short period of weeks.
00:42And the President has been very helpful also.
00:45And we're also talking about trade, various trade deals that we will be doing with France.
00:51And we'll be discussing a little bit further, and then we'll have a press conference later
00:55on.
00:56You can ask some questions.
00:57We'll be having a press conference in a little while.
00:59We're going to have lunch with the entire French staff.
01:03And we look forward to it.
01:05And again, the relationship has been very special with France and very special with
01:09this gentleman on my right.
01:11And we look forward to keeping that going for a long period of time.
01:14Thank you very much.
01:16Thank you, Mr. President.
01:19No, no.
01:21I want to thank Mr. President for his hospitality.
01:23We had a good discussion this morning for the G7 here and for the third year of this
01:31war in Ukraine.
01:33And I think our common objective clearly is to build peace, and a solid and longstanding
01:40peace.
01:41And this is what we will discuss, obviously, because I have great respect for bravery and
01:48the resistance of Ukrainian people.
01:51And we do share the objective of peace, but we are very aware of the necessity to have
01:57guarantees and solid peace in order to stabilize the situation.
02:02I'm here as a friend because through centuries we've been friends, and we are personal friends,
02:08as you mentioned it, because we work very well together.
02:11And I think the U.S. and France always stand on the same side, the right side, I would
02:16say, of history.
02:18And this is exactly what's at stake today.
02:20And this is a very important moment for Europe as well, and I'm here as well after discussions
02:25with all my colleagues to say that Europe is willing to step up, to be a stronger partner,
02:33to do more in defense and security for its continent, and as well to be a reliable partner
02:40and to be engaged on trade, economy, investment in a lot of topics.
02:44So I'm very excited by the discussion we will have, and obviously we will follow up.
02:50And I want to thank you again, Mr. President, for your presence for Notre-Dame de Paris.
02:54It meant a lot for French people, and I want to thank you for that.
02:59That's the cathedral, and they've done a fantastic job.
03:02The President has done a great job in bringing it back.
03:05That was a terrible thing, like, what, five years ago?
03:07Yeah.
03:08Watching that burn was a very horrible, horrible sight.
03:12And you've done a fantastic job in bringing it back, so I congratulate you.
03:16Thank you for being here.
03:18Thank you very much.
03:19Does anybody want to ask a question or two?
03:22Is that a foolish question?
03:23Thank you, Mr. President.
03:24It looks like we're getting very close.
03:25The deal is being worked on.
03:26We're, I think, getting very close to getting an agreement where we get our money back over
03:27a period of time.
03:28But it also gives us something where I think it's very beneficial to their economy, to
03:29them as a country.
03:30But, you know, we're in for $350 billion.
03:31How we got that?
03:32How we got that?
03:33How we got that?
03:34How we got that?
03:35How we got that?
03:36How we got that?
03:37How we got that?
03:38How we got that?
03:39How we got that?
03:40How we got that?
03:41How we got that?
03:42How we got that?
03:43How we got that?
03:44How we got that?
03:46But, you know, we're in for $350 billion.
03:49How we got there, I don't know.
03:51But that's a lot of money, a lot of money invested.
03:54And we had nothing to show for it.
03:58It was the Biden administration's fault.
04:02The Europeans are in for about $100 billion, and they do it in the form of a loan.
04:09And the Europeans have been great on this issue.
04:11They understood it wasn't fair, and we were able to work something out.
04:14But with the Ukrainians, I think I can say that we're very close.
04:18Scott's around here someplace.
04:20And I think we can say that we're very — hi, Scott.
04:23I think we're very close.
04:25Do you have something to say about that, Scott?
04:27We were very close.
04:28Good.
04:29Good.
04:30One-yard line.
04:31All right.
04:32Mr. President?
04:33Mr. President?
04:34Mr. President?
04:35Mr. President?
04:36Ukraine?
04:37What?
04:38Would a middle field include a security guarantee for Ukraine?
04:39Well, it'll be — Europe is going to make sure that nothing happens.
04:42I don't think it's going to be much of a problem.
04:44I think once we settle, there's going to be no more war in Ukraine, and you're not going
04:49to have a — it's not going to be a very big problem.
04:52That's going to be the least of it.
04:54Mr. President, we're hearing from some Greek media reporting that the U.S. has agreed to
04:59shut down a military base in Greece that's been a logistical hub for NATO.
05:03That it shut — that who shut down?
05:04That the U.S. has agreed to shut it down at the request of Turkey and Russia.
05:08Is that at all true?
05:09Marco, do you have anything to say to that?
05:13Well, sir, that's a no.
05:14That's a no.
05:15Sorry.
05:16Mr. President?
05:18Mr. President?
05:19Is it a no?
05:20It's a no, sir.
05:21It's not a correct statement.
05:23Mr. President, how do you react to people in Europe who say that you are abandoning
05:26Ukraine and that you are going to sacrifice the security of Ukraine by making a deal with
05:31Vladimir Putin?
05:32You know, we're helping Ukraine like nobody has ever helped Ukraine before.
05:38And I can say this.
05:39If I didn't become President, Ukraine would right now still be at a level where there
05:44would be no one thinking about a peace.
05:47And it was — it's a sad thing that this happened.
05:50This would have never happened, this war, if I were President.
05:53Zero chance.
05:55And it has happened.
05:56So my function is to get you out of the war.
06:01Get them out of the war.
06:02Let them live.
06:03It's a bloody war.
06:04It's a horrible war.
06:05Thousands of people are being killed a week.
06:08And I would say Russia, maybe 700,000 people.
06:12I think Ukraine, probably a similar number.
06:15And that's not talking about the towns and the cities that have been blown up.
06:18That's talking about soldiers.
06:20This has been a horrible, bloody mess.
06:24And we're going to get it solved.
06:26We got to get it solved.
06:27And you know, we're not talking about America's soldiers.
06:32Soldiers from this country.
06:33We're talking about Russia and Ukraine.
06:35But on a humanitarian basis, we have to get this very, very bloody, savage problem solved.
06:43And I will say this also.
06:44It could lead to World War III if it's not solved.
06:46You know, there will be a point at which it's not going to stop at those two countries already.
06:51There's such involvement from other countries.
06:54And it could really lead to a very big war, World War III.
06:58And we're not going to let that happen either.
07:00Would you support the idea to send European troops in Ukraine to back the ceasefire?
07:04Yeah, European troops may go into Ukraine as peacemakers.
07:09So when the agreement is done, they can watch that everything is followed properly.
07:12I don't think that's going to be a problem.
07:14And a lot of the European countries, I think — I don't want to speak for France, but
07:18I know that the President has talked about doing that also.
07:23I think that'll be a very good day when we can go in as peacekeepers, as opposed to what's
07:27going on right now with everybody being killed.
07:30Will they have U.S. backing, those troops going into Ukraine?
07:33Will they have U.S. backing for U.S. troops?
07:35Well, we're going to have a backing of some kind, and obviously, the European countries
07:40are going to be involved.
07:42And I don't think you're going to need much backing.
07:45I think that's not going to be a problem.
07:47Once an agreement is signed, Russia is going to get back to its business, and Ukraine and
07:52Europe are going to get back to their business.
07:54I don't think it's going to be a problem.
07:55Mr. President —
07:56Can you talk about Doge?
07:57Do you think he's President Zelensky's fool?
07:58What?
07:59Will you meet with President Zelensky, too?
08:02I will be meeting with President Zelensky.
08:04In fact, he may come in this week or next week to sign the agreement, which would be
08:10nice.
08:11I'd love to meet him.
08:12We'd meet at the Oval Office.
08:14So the agreement is being worked on now.
08:16They're very close to a final deal.
08:18It'll be a deal with Rare Earths and various other things.
08:22And he would like to come, as I understand it, here to sign it, and that would be great
08:27with me.
08:28I think they then have to get it approved by their counsel or whoever might approve
08:32it, but I'm sure that will happen.
08:34Mr. President, Mr. President Macron —
08:38I'm still meeting with President Putin also, yes.
08:41I don't know when we speak.
08:45We're trying to get this thing worked out.
08:47But, yeah, at some point, I'll be meeting with President Putin, too.
08:51Mr. Macron, s'il vous plaît, est-ce que vous pouvez nous dire quelques mots en français?
08:54Say a few words in French, please.
08:58Le Président l'a dit, je pense que c'est un moment important.
09:02C'est un moment important de la discussion.
09:05On veut bâtir la paix en Ukraine, et le bilan qui a été rappelé.
09:09En réalité, il y a un million de morts et de blessés depuis le début de ce conflit
09:15et de cette guerre d'agression.
09:16Notre volonté, c'est que cette paix dure, parce que nous, nous avons déjà eu un cessez-le-feu
09:20et une paix qui n'a pas été respectée.
09:22C'était les accords de Minsk, un puis deux.
09:24Et donc, le corps de cette discussion, c'est de s'assurer d'abord qu'il y ait un cessez-le-feu,
09:29ensuite que les Ukrainiens soient impliqués.
09:31Et je pense que ce que vient de dire à l'instant le Président Trump est très important,
09:36c'est-à-dire qu'il va rencontrer rapidement le Président Zelensky pour signer cet accord
09:40sur les minerais critiques et les terres rares,
09:43et que c'est aussi un moyen d'avoir une implication américaine forte.
09:46Les Européens sont prêts à prendre leur charge sous des formes diverses,
09:50de soutien à l'armée ukrainienne, de présence y compris, pour s'assurer que la paix soit durable.
09:55Et l'implication dans la durée des Etats-Unis d'Amérique à travers cet accord est une bonne chose.
10:00Et donc, tout est encore à construire, et je ne veux pas préempter les discussions.
10:04Mais nous partageons le même objectif, et ce qu'on a discuté ce matin,
10:07pendant une heure après la visioconférence ensemble,
10:10est-ce qu'on va continuer de travailler, et ce sont pour moi des bonnes avancées.
10:13Est-ce que l'intégrité territoriale de l'Ukraine est encore l'objectif du Président Trump ?
10:17We have already spoken about this, just a moment ago.
10:20This is exactly what we want to do. We want to build peace with Ukraine.
10:23As President Trump mentioned, there are already one million dead and wounded in Ukraine since the war began.
10:29We had a ceasefire in the past that was not respected.
10:32This was under the Minsk Agreements 1 and 2.
10:35President Trump, as he said, will be meeting with President Zelensky to sign a deal on rare earths.
10:43And we are pleased to see this very strong American involvement.
10:47Europe, of course, also stands ready to support Ukraine in various ways, supporting its military.
10:53And we don't want to preempt any sort of discussions that are currently underway.
10:58But we do share the same objective of building this last peace.
11:03I just want to tell you a little story.
11:05So we were at the Eiffel Tower having dinner with your wonderful wife and with my wonderful wife.
11:11And we came out and he started speaking the French deal.
11:15And we didn't have an interpreter and he was going on and on and on.
11:19And I was just nodding, yes, yes, yes.
11:21And he really sold me out because I got back the next day and I read the papers.
11:25I said, that's not what we said.
11:29He's a smart customer, I will tell you that.
11:33Mr. President, if you called Zelensky a dictator, would you use the same words regarding Putin?
11:42I don't use those words lightly.
11:44I think that we're going to see how it all works out.
11:46Let's see what happens.
11:47I think we have a chance of a really good settlement between various countries.
11:52And, you know, you're talking about Europe and you're talking about Ukraine as part of that whole situation.
12:00The other side has a lot of support also.
12:03So let's see how it all works out.
12:05It might work out.
12:06Look, you can never make up lives.
12:08The one thing you can, you can make up the money, but you can't make up the lives.
12:12A lot of lives lost.
12:13I think probably a lot more lives than people are talking about.
12:16It's been a rough war.
12:18But I think we're close to getting it solved.
12:20A question about Doge, sir.
12:21Do you think that Doge could benefit from more streamlined communications?
12:25He sent an email telling employees to give five things that they've done last week.
12:29Agency heads then told people to ignore it.
12:32You're talking about the last email that was sent?
12:34Yeah.
12:35Where he wanted to know what you did this week.
12:37You know why he wanted that, by the way?
12:39I thought it was great.
12:41Because we have people that don't show up to work and nobody even knows if they work for the government.
12:45So by asking the question, tell us what you did this week, what he's doing is saying, are you actually working?
12:52And then if you don't answer, like you're sort of semi-fired or you're fired,
12:57because a lot of people are not answering because they don't even exist.
13:01They're trying to find out.
13:03That's how badly various parts of our government were run by, and especially by this last group.
13:08So what they're doing is they're trying to find out who's working for the government.
13:12Are we paying other people that aren't working?
13:15And, you know, where's all this?
13:17Where's the money going?
13:18We have found hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud so far, and we've just started.
13:25We're actually going to Fort Knox to see if the gold is there, because maybe somebody sold the gold, tons of gold.
13:31Some of the agencies.
13:33So I think it was actually, there was a lot of genius in sending it.
13:37We're trying to find out if people are working.
13:39And so we're sending a letter to people, please tell us what you did last week.
13:43If people don't respond, it's very possible that there is no such person or they're not working.
13:48Some of the agency heads instructed their employees not to respond because they were waiting on further guidance.
13:53But Elon Musk's tweet said a failure to respond would be taken as a resignation.
13:57So there's been a disconnect in communications.
13:59Are you concerned at all about that?
14:01No, no, no. That was done in a friendly manner.
14:03Only things such as perhaps Marco at State Department, where they have very confidential things,
14:09or the FBI, where they're working on confidential things.
14:12And they don't mean that in any way combatively with Elon.
14:16They're just saying there are some people that you don't want to really have them tell you what they're working on last week.
14:22But other than that, I think everyone thought it was a pretty ingenious idea.
14:26We have to find out where these people are. Who are they?
14:29And we said, if you don't respond, we assume you're not around.
14:33And that holds, that stands.
14:34And you're not getting paid anymore, too.
14:36So, you know, we're doing a real job.
14:38And we just had a poll come out, I guess the Harvard poll, saying that it's massively popular what we're doing.
14:45Mr. President, do you still believe in NATO, in the alliance between Europe and America in NATO?
14:53NATO is very much involved in this.
14:56When I first got elected at the very beginning, first term, I got hundreds of billions of dollars put into NATO.
15:03NATO had no money because they hadn't paid for years.
15:06And I said, look, if you don't pay, we're not going to be a part of NATO.
15:10We're not going to protect. We're not going to do what we're supposed to do.
15:13And we took in hundreds of billions of dollars into NATO.
15:17No, NATO is a good thing if it's done properly and if it's used properly.
15:21Mr. President, in these days you speak a lot about tariffs in Canada, in Mexico, and in Europe.
15:32I want to know what is your idea about Italy, if you want to make the same thing.
15:38What? Can you talk up a little louder?
15:42In these days.
15:44Can you talk a little louder? You have a beautiful voice, but you're not.
15:49Where are you from?
15:51Italy.
15:52From Italy. Oh, I love Italy.
15:54Go ahead.
15:55I want to know if you have the same idea with Italy about tariffs.
16:02Well, look, I love Italy, and Italy is a very important nation.
16:05We have a wonderful woman as your leader, and she was on the conversation today, one that we had, the G7.
16:13And, no, I think Italy is doing very well.
16:16I think Italy has got very strong leadership with Georgia.
16:26Any other questions over here?
16:28Yes, ma'am.
16:36With respect to what, Russia?
16:39You said there would be major economic development transactions, which will take place between the United States and Russia.
16:44Yeah, we're trying to do some economic development deals.
16:48They have a lot of things that we want, and we'll see.
16:51I mean, I don't know if that will come to fruition, but we'd love to be able to do that if we could.
16:55You know, they have massive rare earth.
16:58It's a very large, it's actually the largest in terms of land.
17:02It's by far the largest country.
17:04And they have very valuable things that we could use, and we have things that they could use, and it would be very good if we could do that.
17:12I think it would be a very good thing for world peace and lasting peace.
17:16Well, I mean, our first, by far, our first thing that we want to do, the first element of the overall transaction is ending the war.
17:27But if, just as we're doing with Ukraine, if we could do some economic development in terms of Russia and getting things that we want, something like that would be possible, yes.
17:38Can you explain the rationale, sir, in the U.S.
17:42Yes, go ahead, please.
17:43Can you explain the rationale in having the U.S. vote against the U.N. resolution that Ukraine proposed and also the U.S. proposed?
17:49I would rather not explain it now, but it's sort of self-evident, I think.
17:54Mr. President, Trump talked about increasing the tariffs on products from the European Union.
17:58Is that still something you want to do today?
18:00Well, it's not increasing.
18:02It's reciprocal.
18:03So whatever they charge us, we're charging them.
18:06So it's not a question of increasing.
18:08If they charge us 20 percent, we charge them 20 percent.
18:11If they charge us 30 or 40 percent, then we do that, too.
18:15So that would be on the European Union.
18:17But that really would be with respect to everybody.
18:20It's reciprocity.
18:22So, reciprocal.
18:24Whatever they charge us, we charge them.
18:26Nobody has a problem.
18:27Even you.
18:28I see you don't have a problem.
18:29Am I right?
18:30Mr. President, are you thinking of going to Moscow soon?
18:33Maybe in May for the 9th of May for the anniversary?
18:36I mean, not soon, but I would be certainly – if this all gets settled out, which I think it will, sure, I would go there.
18:44On the 9th of May?
18:45And he'd come here, too.
18:46On the 9th of May for the – on the Red Square?
18:48I don't know the 9th of May, no.
18:50I think that's pretty – that's pretty soon.
18:52But, no, at the appropriate time, I would go to Moscow.
18:55When do you think you'll be going?
18:57I think we're working it soon.
18:59How soon?
19:00Within weeks.
19:02Weeks?
19:03Yeah.
19:04I think so.
19:05Right?
19:06Don't you think so?
19:07I'd like to ask – I think we could end it within weeks if we're smart.
19:10If we're not smart, it'll keep going and we'll keep losing young, beautiful people
19:18that shouldn't be dying.
19:21And we don't want that.
19:22And remember what I said.
19:24This could escalate into a third world war, and we don't want that either.
19:29Mr. President, your envoy, Steve Wischoff, suggested a temporary ceasefire in the conflict,
19:34but the Russian government has denied that out of fan.
19:37Are you worried that they're not feeling some good faith?
19:39No, I think they, at some point, will agree to that.
19:42I think they probably want it to.
19:45And I think once you have a ceasefire, it's going to end,
19:47because they're not going from a ceasefire back to war.
19:50I think people have had their fill.
19:53I'm just glad I was able to help, because there was no communication with Russia
19:58until I came along.
19:59Biden didn't communicate.
20:01He couldn't communicate with his own child.
20:03So Biden didn't communicate.
20:05He couldn't – it was terrible.
20:07He hadn't spoken to Putin in three years.
20:10You're trying to end a war.
20:11People are being killed.
20:12Every week, thousands of people are being killed – soldiers, in this case, mostly.
20:16Also, towns.
20:17You know, as missiles go in and back and forth.
20:21No, it's a shame.
20:23This should have never happened.
20:24This is a very sad – this is going to go down in the history books.
20:27This is a very sad moment, because that should have been stopped.
20:30That should have never started.
20:32And if it did start, it should have stopped the first week, not three years later.
20:37Okay?
20:38President Trump.
20:41If you will allow me, because I just –
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22:34I'm sorry.
22:35I'm sorry.
22:36I'm sorry.
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22:38I'm sorry.
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22:40I'm sorry.
22:51That is the most beautiful language.
22:54I have no idea what he said, but that is the most elegant,
22:57beautiful language.
22:59Go ahead, please.
23:01This is a question that was asked by several.
23:04What we need to do is make sure that we are building peace.
23:08We have deterrence capabilities that have been restored.
23:14As President Trump said, there won't be any more problems.
23:17We've seen the U.S. reengagement
23:20and the message that that sends to Mr. Putin.
23:23We have deterrence, which will allow a truce to take place,
23:26verification of that truce,
23:28and then a peace agreement can be put in place
23:30so that we can start rebuilding Ukraine
23:32with security guarantees,
23:34and we have a role to play in that.
23:37Again, I'm not preempting any discussions,
23:39but we've spoken about Ukraine's sovereignty,
23:41and that has been a subject of discussion
23:43between the U.S. and Ukraine.
23:46We have also been working closely
23:48with our British partners this week.
23:51We've shared this information with other European countries,
23:54and we are ready and willing to provide
23:55those security guarantees,
23:57which could perhaps include troops,
24:00but they would be there to maintain peace.
24:02They would not be along the front lines.
24:04They would not be part of any conflict.
24:06They would be there to ensure that the peace is respected.
24:10Our assistance may include other capacity-building,
24:13perhaps for the military.
24:15We see U.S. credibility here.
24:17We each have our role to play,
24:18but we will be done in a united fashion.
24:22Mr. President, do you think that Ukraine
24:24should give up a part of this territory?
24:27Well, we're going to see.
24:28It's a negotiation that's just starting,
24:30and, you know, they've been fighting,
24:32and there's been a lot of land that's been taken,
24:35so we'll have to see how that works out
24:36as part of the negotiation.
24:39I will say there was great unity in that room today.
24:42You know, we were via Skype or whatever,
24:45but it was great, tremendous unity today
24:48in that room with the other countries.
24:51I was very impressed with it.
24:53Can they take it back what they lost in the past years?
24:58That's not an easy thing to do, is it, right?
25:00It's not an easy, you know,
25:02asking whether or not you can take back the land
25:06that they lost, and I say that, yeah, perhaps some of it,
25:11yeah, I hope so, but that's not an easy thing to do.
25:15But it's not an easy thing.
25:16It's going to be something we're talking about.
25:18Will you convince Vladimir Putin
25:20to accept the European troops as peacekeeper, do you think?
25:23Yeah, he will accept that.
25:25He will accept that? I've asked him that question.
25:26You talked to him? I've asked him that question.
25:28Is France going to lift the block on the $300 billion?
25:31Look, if we do this deal, he's not looking for more war.
25:35He doesn't mind, but I've specifically
25:37asked him that question.
25:38He has no problem with it.
25:39Is France going to lift the block on the $300 billion
25:42in frozen Russian assets in Belgium?
25:44France has opposed unfreezing it to pay Ukraine
25:47to compensate the US for its support.
25:49Is France going to lift its opposition to that?
25:53This is, I mean, we speak about frozen assets.
25:56We already used them to back precisely the loans
25:59negotiated at the G7, and it's part of the sanctions,
26:03so it will depend on the follow-up of the discussions.
26:06But clearly, we respect international law.
26:08It's just frozen assets now.
26:10You can take the proceeds of the frozen assets,
26:12but you cannot take the assets themselves
26:14because it's not respecting international law,
26:18and we want to respect international law.
26:19How is one different than the other?
26:21If you can take the proceeds from it,
26:22how can you not take the assets?
26:23Because it's very different.
26:24You keep the assets.
26:25You take the proceeds because they are paralyzed
26:27in a certain way.
26:27You take the proceeds during the wartime,
26:29but you keep the assets, and it's part of the negotiation
26:32at the end of the war because, I mean,
26:34this war cost us a lot of money,
26:37and this is the responsibility of Russia
26:39because the aggressor is Russia.
26:41Should the US be compensated?
26:42So at the end of the day,
26:43this frozen asset should be part of the negotiation,
26:46all in all.
26:47Will France support the US being compensated?
26:50I support the idea to have Ukraine, first,
26:52being compensated because they are the one
26:54to lose a lot of their fellow citizens
26:58and being destroyed by this attack.
27:00Second, all of those who paid for could be compensated,
27:03but not by Ukraine, by Russia
27:05because they were the one to aggress.
27:07Again, just so you understand,
27:11Europe is loaning the money to Ukraine.
27:13They get their money back.
27:14No, in fact, to be frank, we paid.
27:18We paid 60% of the total defaults,
27:20and it was through, like the US, loans, guarantee, grants,
27:24and we provided real money, to be clear.
27:27We have 230 billion frozen assets in Europe,
27:31Russian assets, but this is not as a collateral of a loan
27:35because this is not our belonging.
27:37So they are frozen.
27:38If, at the end of the day, in the negotiation
27:40we would have with Russia,
27:41they're ready to give it to us, super.
27:45It would be loaned at the end of the day,
27:46and Russia would have paid for that.
27:47This is my wish.
27:48If you believe that, it's okay with me.
27:51They get their money back, and we don't, and now we do.
27:53But, you know, that's only fair.
27:55Mr. President, do you think Russia
27:56should be the one that pays everybody back?
27:58Are they the aggressors?
27:59Well, we're negotiating everything,
28:01and everything's on the table,
28:03and we'll see if we can get some land back,
28:04and we'll see about a lot of different things.
28:06And we're going to be making a little speech
28:08and say a few words in a little while.
28:11We're going to have another meeting, a luncheon meeting.
28:14And we'll see you in about two hours, okay?
28:16Thank you very much, everybody.
28:17Thank you, guys. Thank you, friends.
28:19Let's go. Let's go.
28:20Moving out. Thank you very much.
28:22Thank you. Thanks, guys.
28:25All right, headed out this door right here.
28:26Right here. We're moving out.
28:27Thank you, sir. Good to see you.
28:28Thank you, guys. Thank you, Mr. President.
28:30Good to see you, sir.
28:31Let's go. Thank you.
28:32Let's go. Out the door. Thank you.
28:34Moving out. Let's move.
28:37Thank you. Thank you.
28:41Thank you. Thank you.