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00:00B.S.T.B.S.
00:31Until then, the parody of the impression of Kankobi was made into a parody.
00:36The impression of the face using cellophane tape, etc.
00:39They brought in new methods one after another and made a big break.
00:43In the final round of impersonation, the viewer rating was over 30% in a row.
00:49It caused a boom overnight.
00:52Ah, I have to improve various factories.
00:56What's in the box?
00:58What's in the box?
01:06After that, the impersonation industry continued to evolve with the times.
01:12This time, the impersonation talent representing each generation gathered.
01:17The only thing left was reality.
01:21There are artists who can't keep up with the quality up to 99.9%.
01:28Wow, that's a lot of work.
01:31What kind of drama was behind the heat?
01:36Tonight's event is a rally of impersonator-related people.
01:40Now, the door to space and time will open.
01:43The backstage of the movement that the people involved talk about.
01:56The first one is the legend, Mr. Korokke, who is still a top-runner in the industry and is active as an impersonator.
02:06The second one is Mr. Akimasu Haraguchi, who continues to make innovative songs.
02:19The third one is Mr. Yoshimatsu Retsugo, the hope of the impersonator entertainment world.
02:25Long time no see.
02:28That was fast.
02:30The fourth one is Mr. Matsuura Kodai, a singer and impersonator talent with over 140 million views.
02:41This time, we will guide you through the impersonation boom.
02:44We have a list of impersonator entertainers and talents from various eras.
02:50First, the first generation.
02:52This is 1987.
02:55It's been about three or four years since I've been called an impersonator.
03:00It was a sudden boom, wasn't it?
03:03It was just after the manzai boom was over.
03:07I was wondering if there was anything else to laugh at.
03:10The people who were watching the manzai boom felt like they were moving.
03:13The impersonator, who took off in the early 1980s as the next laugh of the manzai boom.
03:21How did the manzai boom become so popular?
03:28What kind of activities did you do when the manzai boom started?
03:31I went to a pub and went to a snack bar.
03:34There were more than 10,000 snack bars.
03:37So there was a culture like that.
03:40However, the manzai boom itself was not in a very good state in terms of popularity.
03:47Even if I went to a nightclub, it was over with the bustle.
03:50I was even told that impersonation was not so gay.
03:55So it was an era when you weren't recognized as gay at all.
04:00It was the same with TV stations.
04:02Why were there so many people who had such skills when they came out to such places?
04:07There was a manzai boom, and there were people who aimed for manzai.
04:10I know there are a lot of new manzai artists who want to come out.
04:14It's strange to think that there was a time when there were so many people who had skills.
04:21When we came to Monogoro, there was already an audition for impersonation.
04:24Was there an audition for impersonation?
04:27There was an audition, but there weren't many people who could impersonate properly.
04:34So there were a lot of people who could impersonate, and they continued to make jokes on the spot.
04:41In the end, Shiten-no-o was the only one who didn't stop making jokes.
04:46Kuroke-san, who was the youngest among Shiten-no-o?
04:48I was the youngest.
04:50Oh, I see.
04:51Akira-san was the oldest.
04:53The oldest was BG4.
04:56Then Akira-san.
04:58Then Kurikan.
05:00Then me.
05:01Was there a difference in the way you impersonated?
05:04Until then, it was okay to make a little bit of a joke.
05:08But when I impersonated Shiten-no-o, I made a joke on the spot.
05:11I was in the mood to be scolded by the person in charge.
05:14I was the most playful.
05:17That's a big difference.
05:19Akira-san did the tape game, so the tape of the elementary school class was gone when the teacher was tired.
05:29It was amazing.
05:31Akira-san put a lot of cello tape on his face in the dressing room and said,
05:35I wonder if it looks like someone.
05:38I was watching it from the side.
05:40Is that so?
05:41I said to Nago-san,
05:43Nago-san, it looks like you.
05:45If you do this, someone will do this.
05:47It's like Tanimura-san.
05:49If you put it all on, it's like Hachiro-san.
05:52I was being bullied a lot at that moment.
05:55That tape is special, isn't it?
05:58It's a tape that doesn't come off.
06:01Kurikawa-san is the end of the Moshimo series.
06:05If Go Hiromi was Min Min Zemi,
06:16If Uwata Keisuke was Tsukutsuku Boushi,
06:24It's beautiful. It's beautiful.
06:27It's amazing that I found that.
06:29There are many ways to show it.
06:32I'm sorry to say this as a child,
06:35I didn't know anything about BJ4.
06:38I was wondering who was doing it.
06:41But my parents said it was good.
06:44When that kind of culture is born,
06:46Then it's going to be like this.
06:48I've been focusing on what I don't do.
06:51If it was Mikawa-san, I'd say,
06:53I'd lick the microphone.
06:55I thought it was a time when anything was possible.
06:58I still do.
07:00I don't know anyone at all.
07:02I'm doing an impersonation show.
07:04If an adult licks the microphone,
07:06I'm going to change the channel.
07:08I'm supposed to be deceived.
07:10I don't know what you're talking about.
07:12I remember watching it and being angry.
07:15The generation that was angry and did what was natural was the first generation.
07:19It was a big deal, wasn't it?
07:21No, Mikawa-san was the first one.
07:23That's how I became an impersonator.
07:25But I really didn't know.
07:27Mikawa-san came out behind me.
07:29I was like, wow!
07:31I thought it was going to be an era.
07:33I thought everyone wasn't looking at me.
07:35Then the real thing appeared.
07:37That's how I became one of the main characters.
07:39I really love Yoshimoto-san.
07:43Yoshimoto-san's laughter was beyond imagination.
07:49For example, he was impersonating Masao Sen.
07:59He had an attaché case.
08:01At the end, when he opened the attaché case,
08:04There were a lot of moles in it.
08:06It was a story that ordinary people couldn't think of.
08:10It's a strange story for all four of us.
08:13Agnieszka-san's nose was blooming.
08:17When I shake my head, Hinageshi-san's nose pops out.
08:20You're not imitating that, are you?
08:22That's why I had a lot of moles.
08:24How did you come up with that?
08:26I was wondering if it wouldn't open.
08:28I don't know if it's going to open.
08:31It's a joke that opens the wig.
08:36It's a joke that Amidai-san made up.
08:39Yoshimoto-san did a lot of things.
08:41He also did Drifters.
08:43But the hardest thing was to make a wig.
08:45He had to make a wig.
08:47He was late in opening the wig.
08:50What is impersonation?
08:52But if it's an impersonation,
08:55Is there a place in the world where it's recognized as a good job?
08:59It's okay if you don't like it.
09:01It's not good to be angry.
09:03That's the escape route of the impersonator.
09:07At that time, the direction of the impersonator changed.
09:10If you're angry, you're in a weird direction.
09:13The impersonator said,
09:15I can't help it.
09:17Then you shouldn't get involved.
09:19That's what I think.
09:22But it helps.
09:24The times have changed.
09:26Kodai Matsuda's time.
09:28Singing impersonation.
09:30You have to be closer to yourself.
09:32If you don't, you won't be evaluated.
09:35I've been doing it for a few years.
09:37I'm still doing it.
09:39If you have a mini croquette like Kintaro,
09:43It's easier for us.
09:45It's easier to perform.
09:47Impersonation isn't decided.
09:49As I said earlier, Kintaro.
09:51You just have to make him laugh.
09:53Kintaro is already out.
09:55But in the end,
09:57If you divide it like that,
09:59Copy and parody.
10:01That's the best way to divide it.
10:03If you look at it like that,
10:05I think it's easier to see.
10:07By the way, Koro-kun, Haraguchi-san, Yoshimatsu-san.
10:10When you impersonate Kei Shimura,
10:12Is there a difference?
10:14The way you speak is different.
10:16It starts with no motion.
10:18But it's Shimura-san's voice.
10:20I'm sorry.
10:22It's Shimura-san.
10:24It's Shimura-san.
10:26We each have our favorite era and character.
10:30There's Shimura-san.
10:32I'm doing it like this.
10:34I don't know if it's similar to me.
10:36By yourself?
10:38I don't know.
10:40If you go here, it's Shimura-san.
10:42But if you compare it like this,
10:44You're doing something completely different.
10:46The popularity of the impersonator emperor is tremendous.
10:48The viewing rate of the appearance program
10:50is more than 30%.
10:52However,
10:54Contrary to its activity,
10:56Various harms have occurred.
10:59To be honest,
11:01I didn't have many seniors who could do ad-libs.
11:03It's not a connection.
11:05It's a package.
11:07Because I don't have it,
11:09I made a lot of things.
11:11If this person does this,
11:13This is how you make a voice.
11:15I made a theory.
11:17Everyone else doesn't speak.
11:19I can't explain it to everyone.
11:21I'm still imitating.
11:23Even if I'm invited to a show as a guest,
11:26I'm not good at talking.
11:28If that happens,
11:30Isn't it hard for the copyists to fight?
11:32It's a momentary excitement.
11:34It's similar.
11:36Applause.
11:38It's an action that doesn't make a sound.
11:40People who sing properly
11:42It was a hard time.
11:44The first generation will lose if they sing properly.
11:46So at first, Moriguchi,
11:48Hiroko Moriguchi,
11:50Akiko Matsumoto
11:52At first, I sang properly and imitated.
11:55In the end, only Kyosei Iwamoto was left.
11:57To sing properly.
11:59So at first, Shizuka Kudo,
12:01I think it was Moriguchi who made fun of it.
12:05The first generation was popular,
12:07but it didn't spread to the multi-genre.
12:11From there, time passed,
12:13and entertainers who were good at new styles appeared.
12:16That's
12:18Imitation of talking.
12:21When I was asked to talk with Sanma,
12:24The seniors until now
12:26What should I talk about?
12:28If it's around Harauchi,
12:30I can do everything.
12:32I'll talk, I'll stick it in, I'll turn it all around.
12:34The second generation
12:36If we do it,
12:38It's a lot easier as an imitator.
12:40Let's not go there either.
12:42But there's a difference.
12:44We have to be there.
12:46I thought I couldn't stay.
12:48It doesn't change how you show it.
12:50It's completely different.
12:52Mr. Imitator
12:54I've done too much.
12:56What's left?
12:58There was only reality.
13:00I used to be an entertainer.
13:02Imitation
13:04In the genre
13:06When I shifted,
13:08How can I survive in this world?
13:10When I thought
13:12There was no one.
13:14Imitation
13:16If you do it like that,
13:18It's better to be funny.
13:20I just need you to laugh.
13:22If you have the technology to stick it in,
13:24Imitate the person who sticks it in.
13:26I think it's better to stick it in.
13:28I think I can stay.
13:30When I looked at the story,
13:32The seat was vacant.
13:34The audience's understanding of comedy
13:36It's going up.
13:38In the variety
13:40He created a frame of gay imitation.
13:42I'm an entertainer.
13:44Even if the entertainer disbanded,
13:46If you can imitate
13:48I'm going to change my work to imitation.
13:50The technology of comedy
13:52It's a fusion of imitation technology.
13:54That's why it's an imitation content.
13:56One person
13:58That's not Mr. Shimura.
14:00Mr. Junichi Takada
14:02Make a story of a suitable fortune teller.
14:04At first,
14:06Who did you get off at the live show?
14:08I was doing it with Mr. Tunnel.
14:10At first
14:12Mr. Takada visits the dressing room.
14:14There are various people.
14:16At that time,
14:18It's a popular song.
14:20I thought it would be interesting
14:22to sing that melody
14:24with Mr. Bando.
14:26Mr. Takada
14:28I can hear it.
14:30It's a strange melody.
14:32Nori-san
14:34It's a popular song.
14:36I gave him a gacha.
14:38Mr. Bando
14:40Mr. Bando
14:42Mr. Bando
14:44It's a way to make a story.
14:46It's a way to make a story.
14:48It's a story of one person.
14:50I've been doing it for five or six minutes.
14:52When I bring it to the imitation window,
14:54I cut it short.
14:56I see.
14:58It's hard to sell my soul there.
15:00There's a conflict.
15:02Is imitation gay?
15:04Is it my gay?
15:06I'm thinking about that.
15:08This.
15:10I know this feeling.
15:11I've thought about why so many people think of imitation.
15:14When I didn't sell well at the same time as myself,
15:17At the same time as myself,
15:19Occasionally,
15:21Fans showed pictures dashing like the vocalist.
15:23It just got more and more and more.
15:25If I had a chance.
15:27Not my effort.
15:28That's what I thought.
15:30You're just lucky.
15:32I think a lot of people overcame.
15:34Do you think so?
15:36I mean, it's your effort, but how much of it is your originality?
15:40I'm sure you've had a lot of that.
15:42That's the real struggle.
15:44But first, I had to get out into the world.
15:48I used it as a means.
15:50Once I got out, I sold my soul.
15:52I told myself, I don't know if I'm going to survive.
15:55At that time, Koji Tamadaka came out as Tavo.
15:59And I came out as Sanma.
16:01And in the show, I got involved in a bit of a crazy way.
16:05It was a talk show, a free talk show.
16:07It was more of a free talk show than a talk show.
16:09You've evolved, haven't you?
16:11Yes, that's where I got more work.
16:13In the end, if I sold myself as an entertainer,
16:15I was able to do the kind of work I wanted to do.
16:19Koji and Haraguchi were going around in packs.
16:21We were doing it with pins.
16:23We were allowed to go on location.
16:25When I was aiming for comedy,
16:27Haraguchi and the others were already
16:29I felt like I was on a comedy show.
16:31I felt like I was invited to the comedy show.
16:35What are you doing?
16:37Who are you talking to?
16:40The talk show entertainer Koji and Haraguchi
16:44jumped out of the hut and went on to talk shows and comedy shows.
16:49I got a citizenship.
16:53Then, with the effect of the first generation and the second generation,
16:56there was a big change in the entertainment industry.
17:00You can't even play other songs on other shows.
17:03There's no wall.
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19:16The first and second generation of entertainment.
19:19Imitation that won the right to live as an entertainer.
19:23There have been two major changes since it became a popular content.
19:29One is the rule of appearance for imitation programs.
19:33Why is that?
19:36For imitation programs, there are Fuji TV and Nittere TV.
19:40If you go to Fuji TV, don't go to Nittere TV.
19:44If you go to Nittere TV, don't go to Fuji TV.
19:47If you go to other programs, don't go to Fuji TV.
19:49It was so strict that I didn't know why there was such a rule.
19:53It's like how they made movies in the old days.
19:55It's like how they made movies in the old days.
19:58If you go to a singing program, don't go there.
20:00If the program is too big, I think that will happen.
20:04I wonder why.
20:05How many times a year is it?
20:08It's four times a year.
20:11If you don't go to other programs, you won't be followed.
20:17You have no choice but to do your best in business.
20:19If you go to other programs, you won't be followed.
20:22If you go to other programs, you won't be followed.
20:28I wondered why it was so strict.
20:32I was struggling as well.
20:34I don't think so anymore.
20:37I don't think so anymore.
20:40I think it's because it was a few years ago.
20:43You used to have a live show with many people when you couldn't appear in any of the programs.
20:48That's right.
20:49At first, I started a live show with this.
20:52I called a few people from Odaiba.
20:54They were Miracle Hikaru and Yamamoto Takahiro.
20:57They also were around the same age.
20:59We made a group called TENJIN.
21:01That's what we were aiming for.
21:04The two of us didn't have a wall or anything.
21:09We wanted to get along with everyone.
21:11We wanted to show everyone the power of entertainment
21:15by putting in so much effort.
21:19When we did the live show,
21:22I was watching the reactions of the Odaiba staff
21:26sitting next to me.
21:28Were the staff bad?
21:30It wasn't a good competition.
21:33They were rivals.
21:35But now, if you wait a few years,
21:38you can go to a different show.
21:41You don't stay there forever.
21:43We don't have that kind of rivalry anymore.
21:46You mean you used to have it?
21:48We used to have it a lot.
21:50But that's when the exchange started.
21:54We were like, let's have an exchange after that.
21:57We don't have it now.
21:59When I was asked to be on the show,
22:03I was told by both of them
22:07that if I was asked not to be on the show,
22:10I should tell them.
22:12They were careful.
22:14I thought I could be on either show.
22:16So I said I would be on either show.
22:18That's good.
22:20In the world of comedy,
22:22we didn't have that kind of rivalry.
22:25But now, people call me
22:28an impersonator comedian.
22:31I'm very happy about that.
22:33I'm very happy about that.
22:35I wonder if I don't have to impersonate
22:37when people talk about me.
22:39You have a bad habit of doing it right away.
22:41I have a bad habit of not stopping.
22:44I've never seen you do it.
22:46It's like you're dead.
22:48Recently, someone from BTS
22:50has been the most popular.
22:52Who?
22:53Someone from BTS.
22:55If that's okay with you,
22:57why do you have to impersonate?
22:59What do ARMY think?
23:02Since the appearance of the third generation
23:04who is good at singing and impersonating,
23:06impersonation has become even more diverse.
23:09But there aren't many programs
23:11that become popular.
23:13How did they form themselves?
23:17Of course, there aren't many
23:19impersonators on TV.
23:21Basically, it's the income from live performances.
23:24Yes.
23:25I've heard that it's really good.
23:28It's far from good.
23:30I've heard that it's really good.
23:32You know both, right?
23:33I know both.
23:34Is it really good?
23:35Yes.
23:36When my son was born,
23:39he immediately applied for a job at the agency.
23:41I see.
23:42You knew it.
23:43You first appeared in the media, right?
23:45Yes.
23:46After that, you went into sales.
23:47After I started appearing on TV,
23:49the number of impersonators has increased.
23:51It's clearly different.
23:52However, compared to when you two first appeared,
23:55I think the sales have decreased considerably.
23:57That's true overall.
23:59It's not just the two of us.
24:01It's not just the two of us.
24:02It's not just the two of us.
24:03It's really a lot.
24:04It's really a lot.
24:05It's really a lot.
24:06You're working as a team, right?
24:08You're working as a team.
24:09It was natural for one person to get
24:12a little over 100 yen
24:14for one impersonation.
24:17It's completely different between
24:20getting a gig at a show pub
24:22and getting a gig at a comedy live.
24:25It's completely different.
24:26I see.
24:27It's a completely different starting point.
24:28In that case,
24:29the people now are completely different, right?
24:30Rather than going to the site,
24:31it's more like getting a buzzword.
24:33Certainly, there is an ad revenue from YouTube
24:36and a revenue from the number of views on TikTok,
24:39but the site is definitely stronger than that.
24:42I see.
24:44You're doing a lot of live shows, right?
24:46Yes, I have more than 100 stages per person.
24:50You're doing a lot.
24:51I'm doing it all over the country.
24:52That's amazing.
24:53Matsuda Koda-kun and Anamaki Yoko-chan
24:55are the genre of impersonation artists.
24:59That's right.
25:00I'm an impersonator and an artist.
25:01Yes, you're an impersonator and an artist.
25:02You'll be welcomed everywhere in the country.
25:04You'll be welcomed everywhere in the country.
25:05You'll be welcomed everywhere in the country.
25:06The times are interesting now.
25:09I want to get excited about that song together.
25:12I see.
25:13For example, you can't go to see yourself,
25:16so you can't get a ticket.
25:18Or you can't see all five of you at the same time.
25:21If there are two people in front of you,
25:23you can see all five of them.
25:26That's how the song gets excited.
25:28That's right.
25:29It's like having a festival by yourself.
25:31You can enjoy the live show.
25:33Don't make a generic.
25:35You're still doing it.
25:38I think it's really good.
25:41For the impersonator artists who appear at events and show pubs as their source of income,
25:47Kisara is one of them.
25:52There are not only impersonator artists, but also impersonators.
25:57Seiko Maneda has been around for a long time.
26:00She's a legend.
26:02These people are a little different.
26:05I think impersonator artists and impersonators are a little different.
26:09It's a one-way street.
26:11You have the courage to call yourself Fuyasumi Sakamoto.
26:14That's amazing.
26:15I've worked with him before.
26:18He said,
26:19Fuyasumi Sakamoto, let's have a summer dinner.
26:21That's amazing.
26:23That's what he meant.
26:25He has a lot of naming power.
26:28He has a mind of his own.
26:32Satoshi is like that.
26:34Satoshi has a mind of his own.
26:36What do you think of him?
26:41I'd like to choose a word, but what do you think of him?
26:45What do you think of him?
26:47I can't help it.
26:48That's what I think of him.
26:50Isn't that strange?
26:51I understand what you want to say.
26:54I don't know what to do.
26:56That's normal.
26:59There is a tendency.
27:01I think there are a lot of people who are similar to you.
27:04Stop it.
27:06I don't know what you mean by fake friends.
27:10What is that?
27:11I'm in trouble.
27:12You're fighting over a small thing.
27:14I'm the one who got the approval first.
27:17That's not true.
27:19I don't know.
27:20I don't know.
27:21I don't know.
27:22I don't know.
27:23I don't know.
27:24I don't know.
27:25I don't know.
27:26I don't know.
27:27I don't know.
27:28I don't know.
27:29You're the one who got the approval first.
27:32It's strange to say that.
27:35I know.
27:36I'm saying it's not good, but there are people like that.
27:39When I was young, I was asked to drink with a person like that.
27:42After drinking, I said,
27:43You drank with A of Yazawa, didn't you?
27:45I'm the real Yazawa.
27:47He said he wasn't Yazawa.
27:48I don't know why I'm getting angry.
27:50Which one do you like?
27:52Yazawa A or Yazawa B?
27:54I don't like Yazawa.
27:58What time is it now?
28:00You're usually calm like Satoshi.
28:03When you do it, you do it quickly.
28:05I feel like a craftsman.
28:07After this, the staff will reveal the method of making a story.
28:12It's amazing.
28:14I don't have a software that's more than Mr. Takeda.
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30:23How do the stars of the impersonation world represent each generation?
30:29The method of making a story.
30:32How many people are there in the repertoire?
30:34If I put in a lot of things, I'll have more than 1,000.
30:371,000?
30:38Did you include BTS?
30:40BTS can have about 7 people.
30:447 people in that shape?
30:45Isn't that a lot of water?
30:47If you include morning dogs and evening dogs, you'll have more than 1,000.
30:51If I start doing this, I'll have nothing to do.
30:55Is that what a repertoire is?
30:57If you do something that no one noticed first, it becomes a repertoire.
31:03Like a game story?
31:05For example, if you say morning and evening to a chicken,
31:09in the morning, it's like this.
31:11In the evening, it's like this.
31:13When a chicken gets tired, it doesn't make a sound.
31:17Everyone agrees with that.
31:20Is that so?
31:22Is that so?
31:24It's more fun to do it yourself than to force it.
31:27It's the same with salmon roe.
31:30That's right.
31:31We're in the same genre.
31:33We're in the same genre.
31:35Salmon roe is like this.
31:39There's no chicken, salmon, and BTS.
31:41It was there until 1997.
31:44Is there a way to make a voice or a technique?
31:47I divide it in the center of my face.
31:50Itsuki sings behind his face.
31:53Is there a sensual way?
31:55When Itsuki does it, everyone puts in a low voice.
31:59But Itsuki doesn't put in a low voice.
32:01Everyone sings like this.
32:04But Itsuki sings like this.
32:10Itsuki doesn't sing like this.
32:13Itsuki sings like this.
32:16Itsuki sings like this.
32:18Itsuki sings from a high place.
32:20Itsuki sings from a low place.
32:22For example, Fukuyama.
32:24Fukuyama doesn't speak like that.
32:27Itsuki sings like this.
32:29Itsuki sings like this.
32:31Itsuki sings like this.
32:33Itsuki sings like this.
32:36How many people do you have?
32:38I have about 200 people.
32:42I have about 200 people.
32:44But I have about 7 people who use it on a variety show.
32:50That's right.
32:51It's amazing to have 7 strong voices.
32:54I think I can do it if I have 7 people.
32:57I use it in various ways.
32:59I use Kato's line,
33:03I use it in various ways.
33:07I use this flavor of this store.
33:10I use this flavor of this store.
33:13I didn't say anything about the taste.
33:15I didn't say anything about the taste.
33:17I was asked to say it.
33:19I was asked to say it.
33:20I saw it and thought that it was your style.
33:24I saw it and thought that it was your style.
33:26You are the only one who changes your style.
33:29You think so about everything about me.
33:32You think so about everything about me.
33:34I said I like Tetsuya Takeda.
33:36I said I like Tetsuya Takeda.
33:39I explained to him that I like it.
33:43I talked about it.
33:46He looked at me and said.
33:48It's a lie.
33:50You're imitating that part, too.
33:52You're imitating that part, too.
33:54The bad thing about impersonating actors is that
33:56when they do something,
33:58you think, oh, I got it.
34:00You close it.
34:02When we work with the people in the repertory,
34:04we're like harvest days.
34:06We're lucky.
34:08Yoshimura-san, you're in the Simulacra team,
34:10you're the most in the world.
34:12How many people do you have in the business?
34:14There are a lot of singers.
34:16About 50 to 60 people.
34:18How long have you been in the business?
34:2015 to 16 years.
34:22That's amazing.
34:24There's room for imagination
34:26when it comes to speaking.
34:28You don't have to say what you didn't say.
34:30How do you make this?
34:32There's no choice but to cover it up.
34:34If it's like that,
34:36wouldn't you say this?
34:38It's the same with Shimura-san.
34:40You can see it, but...
34:42If you ask me if I really said it,
34:44I'm just imitating it.
34:46I'm just imitating Shimura-san in my memory.
34:48So if there's a body image,
34:50if there's a cell phone image,
34:52it's like an image of personality.
34:54I'm trying to be that person
34:56and imitating it.
34:58It's really hard, isn't it?
35:00That's right.
35:02And I laugh a little.
35:04I'm a little embarrassed.
35:06I do it while thinking about my personality.
35:08Shimura-san, you're probably saying this.
35:10Do you look it up a lot?
35:12No, I don't look it up.
35:14I really like it.
35:16While I'm looking at it over and over again,
35:18I feel like it remains in my memory.
35:20There are a lot of human personalities.
35:22Where do you choose?
35:24That's where I'm an interesting singer.
35:26It's where you like it.
35:28How do you convey it?
35:30Do you package it into a story?
35:32Do you put it in a free talk?
35:34Tetsue Takeda.
35:36Especially in the era,
35:38everyone's favorite things change.
35:40I haven't been through it at all.
35:42Mr. Kinpachi.
35:44Mr. Kinpachi at that time
35:46was different from the beginning and the end.
35:48At the beginning,
35:50he said,
35:52There's something I want to say to you.
35:54At the end,
35:56he said,
35:58There's something I want to say to you.
36:00Recently,
36:02There's something I want to say to you.
36:04It's a little bit of a habit.
36:06Depending on the era,
36:08I'll say it.
36:10Then,
36:12People who are watching will understand.
36:14People who are watching will understand.
36:16I don't have any software that's more than Mr. Takeda.
36:18I don't have any software that's more than Mr. Takeda.
36:20You know the band members like Doraemon.
36:22I know.
36:24It changes depending on the era.
36:26The hit songs are different.
36:28Some people sing depending on the drama.
36:30I know a lot.
36:32I know a lot.
36:34I know a lot.
36:36But,
36:38I didn't do it first.
36:40I didn't do it first.
36:42It's everyone's thing.
36:44It's everyone's thing.
36:46Everyone does it,
36:48but does Mr. Matsuda do it?
36:50I did it for the first time in a video the other day.
36:52Is it possible?
36:54Everyone does it.
36:56It hurts.
36:58It's embarrassing.
37:00It's embarrassing to do it like this.
37:02It's embarrassing to do it like this.
37:04To you whom I love,
37:06To you whom I love,
37:08a word I want to send,
37:10a word I want to send,
37:12Takeda will sing it.
37:14Seems great.
37:16It suits him.
37:18He sounds like someone.
37:20He sounds like someone.
37:22I think someone
37:24with a big voice
37:26and similar character
37:33But you can't do the same thing with the same key.
37:37The thing that's difficult for the younger generation is that everyone has a high key.
37:41Yes, everyone has a high key.
37:43We're all the same age, so we all hear the same song when we hear someone with a high key.
37:47I think it's a lot of work to divide that.
37:51I'm like, I'm going to adjust my throat with a voice trainer.
37:57Oh, you move it.
37:59It's crazy.
38:01It's amazing.
38:03If it's high, it's like this.
38:05If it's low, it's like this.
38:07There's a voice quality, right?
38:09Yes, and then you can adjust the volume of your breath.
38:11You can adjust whether to put it in your nose or not.
38:13When I hear his voice, I can see how similar he is if he breathes this hard.
38:19Yes, I can see it.
38:21On the other hand, there aren't many people who have a high key.
38:25He's about 184 centimeters tall.
38:27If you look at my repertoire, everyone is about that tall.
38:31The height of the body and the voice are similar.
38:33The length of the instrument is about 190 centimeters, including Mr. Kuroda Kobukuro.
38:39Mr. Ken Hirai is 183 centimeters tall.
38:41Mr. Yonezu is 188 centimeters tall.
38:43The person I'm working with is quite tall.
38:47I naturally choose instruments that are similar.
38:51When you hear that, do you know that it's similar to you?
38:55When I hear that, I know that it's similar to me.
38:57Even if it's completely different from Mr. Creep Hype,
39:01he has a strong personality.
39:06Do you want such a person to sell?
39:08If a good person comes out, it's hard to imitate, so I'm in trouble.
39:10I think so.
39:12I think it would be nice if a low and unique person came out.
39:18If a person like Mr. Sorimachi comes out,
39:20if there is a song like Poison,
39:23it's very easy to sing.
39:25The fourth generation, including Mr. Matsuura and Mr. Ishimasa,
39:29is active in the imitating industry.
39:32How is it different from the previous generation?
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41:37The impersonation industry has entered a new phase with the appearance of the fourth generation.
41:43What has changed?
41:46People like Yoshimura-san who work in disguise
41:53People who are not good at this channel are good at singing.
41:57It is this era that colors the people who are good at it.
42:02I feel that my weapon is clear here.
42:05I'm doing it in a state where I'm impersonating a lot of people.
42:11Even if you change various shortcuts, you can do it from a different angle.
42:17I think it's a trend now.
42:19Yoshimura-san, you have SNS, so you have to put out a lot of new things.
42:23SNS is easy to sell.
42:26It's easy to put out what you think freely, but it's also fast.
42:31It's a trend in Japan, but it's not a trend in the world.
42:34You have to find a place to put it.
42:37No matter how popular it is on TikTok, people who watch TV don't know it yet.
42:42There are many things that can't be brought to TV.
42:45The trend of TikTok is completely different in Japan.
42:49That's right.
42:50When I appear on TV, I sometimes impersonate Haruo Matsuyama.
42:54On TikTok, I impersonate young people.
42:59Of course, it's important to find new people.
43:03I've been doing it for a long time, and I've been taking good care of it.
43:07There are also places where you can come out as a side break.
43:15So when Mr. Muroi's movie was released,
43:21I thought I could eat again.
43:25I don't have any respect.
43:29The number of impersonators is increasing.
43:32Besides the genre of impersonator entertainer,
43:36there is a new generation of broadcasters.
43:39Everyone is able to act as an impersonator entertainer.
43:44I think there are a lot more rivals.
43:46I think it's a general story of entertainers.
43:49I don't think there's a boundary anymore.
43:51There are a lot more people to fight.
43:53And it's easier to find answers.
43:57When I was on TV, I was still a VHS player.
44:01Without that, I couldn't confirm the origin.
44:04But now I can easily confirm it.
44:06I can check it.
44:08I can clearly see if it's similar or not.
44:10It's a mess.
44:11It's not similar here.
44:13Old fans say,
44:14My favorite person doesn't say this.
44:17I think it will come more directly.
44:19I think it will come directly.
44:21Especially if you have a serious personality,
44:23If you can't keep the quality up to 99.9%,
44:28There are artists who will quit.
44:31That's a lot of work.
44:33It's a great world.
44:36Even if the pitch is off, you will be attacked.
44:40It's a premise that you have to sing well in the first place.
44:43That's right.
44:44First of all, you have to be good at singing.
44:47I think I'm being watched to see if I have any respect for that person.
44:53I'm glad it's not now.
44:55I see.
44:57Even if there was a little, there was a difference in the intonation.
45:02I don't think there were many people like that.
45:05In addition, there is another factor that faces the modern imitator industry.
45:11The original author is not good at saying it, so it is not allowed.
45:15When the original author says that it is difficult to violate the rights,
45:20I'm curious about what happens to the imitator.
45:23What happens from here on?
45:26Of course, if the original author allows it, it's okay.
45:30Especially in Hallyu, it's no good to use data on your own.
45:34The rights are being violated.
45:36The number of players is increasing.
45:39I've heard a lot of people say that they've been approved by the original author.
45:44It's like they're doing it because they've been approved.
45:48I think it's better than the story, but it's more like that than it looks.
45:52I think it's time to be told that it's really okay or that it's just being violated.
45:57I don't think I've been told anything from the original author.
46:00When I posted a video of Ken Hirai on YouTube,
46:03all the profits were cut.
46:05When I saw that, the YouTube AI mistook my video for a CD and cut all the profits.
46:15It wasn't a normal cut, it was a distribution.
46:18There's a distribution.
46:20The more you show it, the more you wonder what's going to happen.
46:24That's right.
46:25What's more difficult is that in short videos,
46:28there are people who are just messing with the voice.
46:31The AI can't tell if it's a technique or a tool that the person is singing.
46:38I think it's going to be really difficult.
46:41Emotions may become important.
46:45You can imitate the voice, but you don't know how far you can get with AI technology.
46:50That's how strong the live performance is.
46:52It's proof that it's real.
46:54I don't think it's something you can see on the screen or on your cell phone.
47:02It's the real thing.
47:04What's transmitted live,
47:06Kodai is imitating the sound pressure of the person.
47:10When the microphone passes through the sound pressure,
47:13you'll be surprised.
47:15It's something that can only be transmitted live.
47:18I think it's going to be a very strong genre if it's transmitted live.
47:32It's a medley of 240 million people.
47:37When you say, who's next?
47:39You have to put out a blank sheet.
47:42It's going to be a tough bid.
47:45I think it's going to be a situation where you have to say,
47:50I've got permission to do this.
47:52So it's okay for us to use the sound we made in the band.
47:58When you say, who's next?
48:01It's like you're making a voice.
48:04It's like you're making a voice.
48:06The fate of the system is that you have to say what you do.
48:11If you don't make a system where you can't say who's next,
48:20it's going to be a difficult society.
48:22You can't introduce yourself and you can't say anything.
48:25You don't have to say it.
48:27You can say, who's next?
48:31But it's hard.
48:33It's a genre that doesn't get noticed.
48:36I'd like you to make a combination.
48:39I think it's a combination of impersonators.
48:44I think it's a combination of impersonators.
48:46I think it's a combination of impersonators.
48:48I think it's a combination of impersonators.
48:51If you can make that kind of law,
48:53it's the hardest job to do.
48:57If you're told not to use your name,
49:01it's over.
49:03There are noisy artists.
49:06It's not just about borrowing names.
49:09It's about how much influence you get from the names you borrow.
49:14I think it's important to act in a way that gives you a good influence.
49:20You can't say, stop it.
49:25As long as there are still lively people,
49:29it's over when there are more ugly people.
49:33Now that I think about it,
49:35I'm living in a good era.
49:39We don't have much time left, but it's about time.
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53:02Everyone's quality is getting better.
53:05I'm looking forward to it even more.
53:07On SNS, there are a lot of people who speak the same voice as amateurs.
53:14There aren't many people who make fun of it.
53:17If everyone works together,
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