Anu Malik is considered one of the finest composers in Hindi cinema. Although he started his career in the late '70s, it was in the late '80s and early '90s that Anu Malik began to achieve significant success. Prior to that, however, he had provided excellent music for several films, and some of the songs from those films gained significant popularity. Commercially, though, it was the 1993 film Baazigar, starring Shah Rukh Khan, that proved to be a milestone for Anu Malik's career, after which he reached the heights of fame. In a special conversation with Lehren, Anu Malik acknowledged that he has never done anything wrong, but the failure of some films had an impact on his career in the early stages. So, let’s find out what Anu Malik shared in this flashback podcast with Lehren. #anumalik #baazigar #lehrenpodcast #podcast
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00:00Raah mein unn se mulaqat ho gayi
00:06Raah mein unn se mulaqat ho gayi
00:11Jise darte the bohi baat ho gayi
00:17I love this song.
00:20Maine kaafi success dekhi between 18 and 84, chaar saal.
00:23Uske baad jo maine failure dekhi hai, 85 onwards.
00:25Wo main samjhdo ke bhagwan kisi bhi sangeet kaar ko na dikha hai.
00:28Waise toh har baar maine achcha kaam kiya, maine kabhi bura kaam nahi kiya.
00:31Lekin jo film nahi chalti toh farak pad jata hai.
00:33Mere jo direct link hai with audience hai.
00:35Mujhe pura yaqeen hai ke audience loves me, you know.
00:37They love my style of music.
00:40Anand ji aap humein yeh bataaye, aap apne safalta ka kaaran kise aur kis cheez ko maate hai?
00:46Dekhiye meri safalta ka kaaran sabse pehle toh
00:50main bhagwan ko dunga.
00:53Kyonge agar unki kripa na ho, toh main Anu Malik nahi ban sakta tha.
00:58Aur maabaap ka aashirvaad, khud meri mahinat.
01:06Aur main is baat mein maangta ho ki vakt se pehle aur kisma se zyada na kisi ko mila hai na kisi ko milega.
01:11Kyonge main 20 saal se kaam kar raha hoon.
01:121972, 1994 aa chuka hai.
01:15Toh bahut saal se laga hoon aapne is sangeet ki duniya mein.
01:21Aur aaj jab mujhe Baazigar mili hai, film phir aur mila,
01:24toh maine bas haath utha ke upar wale ka lak lak shukar kiya.
01:28Aap kaafi saalon se music me rahe hain.
01:30Kaunse picture ke gaane se, kaunse film ke gaano se,
01:34aap recognize hue, aap ke career ka turning point kaunse film ke gaane se?
01:40Aap abhi ki mere is nai daur ki baat kar rahe hain ke pehle wali baat kar rahe hain.
01:44Pehle ke aur nahi.
01:45Pehle dekha, mera poori kahaani main agar aapko batana chao, in a nutshell,
01:49agar aap sunna chahein toh.
01:51It is ke mujhe achhe banners mile, jaise ke Ek Jaane Hum,
01:57jo film mujhe mili, F.C. Mera ki, Soni Mewal,
01:59ya Manmohan Desai ki with Amitabh Bachchan Mardh.
02:02Woh ek daur achha shuru hua.
02:04Aur maine kaafi success dekhi between 18 and 84, chaar saal.
02:09Aur uske baad jo maine failure dekha hai, 85 onwards,
02:13woh main samajh toh bhagwan kisi bhi sangeetkaar ko na dekha hai.
02:16Kyuki maine bahut jadh do jahit ki.
02:18Uske baad na mere paas producers the,
02:20na mere paas koi in audition aata tha, koi milne aata tha.
02:24It was a very bad period, between 85 to 89.
02:26Until the year of 1990 when my daughter Anmol was born.
02:30My luck changed after that.
02:32Aur us pehle meri picture ne bahut chaliye thi, Ek Jaane Hum,
02:36music bahut chaliye tha, Soni Mewal bahut chaliye tha.
02:37Lekin turning point, agar aap jo kehti hai, turning point.
02:40Waise toh har baar maine achha kaam kiya, maine kabhi bura kaam nahi kiya.
02:44Lekin jo film nahi chalti, toh farak pad jata hai.
02:47Turning point came with a film called, jab mujhe banners mila,
02:50Sir, Mahesh Bhatt ki saath, phir teri kahaani yaad aayi.
02:54Usse pehle Salim sahab ne doodh ka karz leeti,
02:56usse pehle Rajiv Mehran chamatkar leeti,
02:58Tehel ka, Radha ka sangam, Jaanam, Naagmani, Shabnam.
03:04But the actual commercial turning point is Baazigar.
03:09Because Ratan Jain sahab ne jab mujhe film di,
03:12toh I don't have such a major audio company backing me, to be very honest.
03:17Aur Ratan Jain sahab ne mujhe choose kiya for Baazigar,
03:20Shahrukh Khan is the hero, whom I respect and I admire very much.
03:23Aur is film milne, uske baad chalne se, mera music bahut chala uska,
03:28film super hit ho gayi, film jab chalti hai toh music bahut chalta hai.
03:31Film na chale toh music ko bahut dhakka lagta hai.
03:35Toh luckily meri film bhi chali, it's a very good team work,
03:38aur film phir award mil gaya.
03:40So I think my main turning point in my life now today is Baazigar.
03:43Baazigar se main...
03:46Aap kya samjhte hain ki kisi bhi picture ki kamyavi ke liye,
03:51kisi bhi film ki kamyavi ke liye, music ka kitna important hai?
03:55Dekhi aaj agar aap notice karein audio companies ko,
03:57jaise Venus hain, TIPS hain, aur of course Time Audio Company.
04:02Toh yeh teeno major companies hain humaare industry ke,
04:05aur yeh kyu stress karte hain music ke baare mein?
04:09Why do they fight for good music?
04:11Kyunki yehne pata hai ki audio, the public likes good music.
04:14Aur film ko boost kya milta hai?
04:16Ke opening acchi lag jati hai.
04:18Agar accha, bahut accha sangeet ho,
04:21upar dekha star jaise Shahrukh Khan ho, Govinda ho, Aamir ho,
04:24waqar ab aayega Rajiv Devgan, aur kitne achche stars hain.
04:27Toh people want to see good ear and see good songs on their faces.
04:32Aap samjhi matlab? Toh music pulls in the audience.
04:35Uske baad agar film ki story achchi ho, direction achcha ho,
04:38promotion achcha ho, toh sunne pe soha gaya.
04:41Toh music plays a great part in the success of a film.
04:44Aapke aur saare filmon ke gaane ke saath,
04:48jo aapki Vijaypath ne aapne jo gaane banaya hain,
04:51usko aap kaise...
04:53Vijaypath ka music is now a super duper hit music,
04:56wo aap jaanti, yeh nahi ke abhi Anu Malik ne music diya toh,
04:59wo keh raha hai. It's not me.
05:01You see, I have a feeling, aur main aaj aapki through,
05:05main kehna chahata hoon, ke mera jo reaction,
05:09mera jo direct link hai with audience hai.
05:11Mujhe pura yaqeen hai ke audience loves me, you know.
05:15They love my style of music.
05:17Yeh hum dologe, hum milte hain nahi hai.
05:19I mean, main aapne audience ko kaise milta hoon, public ko?
05:22Through my music.
05:24Main aapke taraf kaise aata hoon?
05:26Jab aap mera sangeet sunti hain.
05:28Toh mujhe aisa lagta hai ki public hai,
05:30they identify with my kind of music.
05:32Aur jo Vijaypath ka music hai,
05:34jaise Muslim ki tawar Raha mein unse mulaqat ho gayi,
05:36jisse darte toh wohi baat ho gayi.
05:38Yaar phir main ek catchy number diya,
05:40Ruk ruk ruk, are baba ruk,
05:42der lagi aane mein tumko, shukre phir bhi aaye toh.
05:44Yaar Sagar Sang ke naare hain,
05:46har gaana is a super hit today.
05:47Aur main ne iske picturization dekhi hai,
05:50in fact, main chahata hoon public dekhe,
05:53and they will see it because,
05:55iske jo picturization hain gaano ki,
05:57it is 1000 times better.
05:59Agar mera gaana 100 times hai,
06:01toh picturization is 1000 times.
06:03And that is not because, main aise tarif kar raha hoon,
06:05public jab hi film dekhi ki, Vijaypath,
06:07aur iske gaane sunenge,
06:09toh dekhi ki parde par jo abhi gaane sune hain,
06:11toh unko acha lagta hai na gaane,
06:13but they'll be more happy when they actually see it on the screen.
06:14Toh, iska music bhi bahut dil se bana hai,
06:17it's a very good team work,
06:19aur time-out company kento sabhi log zyada interest lete hain,
06:22Praveen bhai hoon, Dhiru bhai hoon,
06:24Hasmukh bhai, plus,
06:28Farooq bhai, the director of this,
06:31Farooq Siddiqui has done a good job,
06:33and the entire team of Time is very charged.
06:35Shagun, sab aate hain, sab mahinat karte hain,
06:37they all have worked hard on the music,
06:39this Anu, kuch karo, kuch karo,
06:41and the result is Vijaypath.
06:42Infact, Vijaypath ke saath saath,
06:44agar aap mera music Gambler ka aane wala sune hain,
06:46toh aapka andaaz hoon, kitni mahinat ki hain.
06:48Infact, Vijaypath is super hit music,
06:50I rate Gambler music very high.
06:52Vijaypath ke gaan mein se,
06:54aapka sabse favorite gaan hai?
06:56Budha mushkil hai yeh kehna,
06:58kyunki mujhe sabhi gaane bahut pasand hain.
07:00Lekin,
07:02Raah mein un se,
07:04mulaqat ho gayi,
07:06Raah mein un se,
07:08mulaqat ho gayi,
07:09mulaqat ho gayi,
07:11jise darte the,
07:13wohi baat ho gayi.
07:15I love this song.
07:17Iske saare gaane bahut hi ache hain,
07:19aur aapne,
07:21baise bhi aur gaane banaya hain,
07:23bahut hi badiya hain,
07:25toh,
07:27dekin isme ek gaana jo hai,
07:29woh,
07:31vulgar sa hai,
07:33jaise,
07:35Kalsaiyaan,
07:37dekho yeh trend shuru hota,
07:39aur infact,
07:41Parveen bhai and the entire team,
07:43when they heard the song,
07:45picharayi toh kiya hunne,
07:47lekin,
07:49they themselves,
07:51the families felt ke,
07:53we should dub it,
07:55kyunki jab itne ache tracks hain,
07:57toh hum apne Vijayabad ka entire good track,
07:59yeh gaan se kyu kharab kar rahe ho,
08:01toh we have dubbed the song,
08:03and we have changed the
08:05connotation of the word
08:07and made it very,
08:09toh hum bhi chahate,
08:11ke hum log,
08:13dekho yeh ek,
08:15public jo hoti hai,
08:17unfortunately,
08:19main abhi public ko bhi dosh nahi disakto,
08:21main unko bhi chatpata gaana,
08:23isliye itne love songs ban rahe the,
08:25toh chatpata gaane,
08:27koi log maang rahe the,
08:29ek gaana chalo,
08:31sabne aise gaane banana shuru kar di hain,
08:33lekin public de khud reject kar di aise gaane,
08:35aaj kal public bhi nahi chahate aise gaane,
08:37they want good lyrics,
08:39toh why in Vijaypath,
08:41Vijaypath mein ek aise gaana hai,
08:43baaki sab gaanein bahut saaf hain,
08:45bahut achche hain,
08:47toh humne yeh gaane bhi dubbed kar di hain.