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“See you at the Oscars,” said Hollywood actor Josh Brolin with a wink. As far as parting words go, Brolin had nailed it.

We were at the end of our whirlwind interview in Abu Dhabi, discussing his operatic sci-fi marvel ‘Dune: Part Two’ with visionary director Denis Villeneuve and wrestler-turned-actor Dave Bautista. Behind us, the sprawling Al Wathba desert in the UAE capital was witness to his worthy and playful assumption.

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00:00Thank you so much for speaking to Gulf News.
00:02Quickly, I think Dune is all about a masterclass in life.
00:05There's so many life lessons there.
00:07Firstly, there are no heroes or villains.
00:09It's all about a matter of perspective.
00:11Can you perhaps elaborate on that?
00:13I'm so happy you're saying so because I feel that
00:15it's all credit goes to Frank Herbert, of course,
00:18who wrote the novel.
00:20And for him, Dune was exactly an exploration
00:24of a warning against charismatic figures,
00:26be the warning against heroic figures
00:29that sometimes feel very like you're compelled
00:34to believe in them but sometimes it's dangerous
00:36to give them too much power.
00:38True that. What about you? Do you think that as well?
00:40There's no black or white, it's all brown.
00:44No black or white, just brown.
00:47I feel like I'm so charismatic and I don't want to learn that lesson.
00:52That's why it's very difficult to work with Josh, you see.
00:55It creates a lot of problems.
00:57How about you, sir?
00:58You are the quintessential.
01:02For my character, no, I think he's absolutely a villain.
01:06There's really no redeeming qualities.
01:10It's all bad.
01:12One thing I love about this film,
01:14I'm not a fantasy fiction fan, as in I don't follow it as much,
01:18but I'm still so hooked on to that.
01:21It was so immersive.
01:22And what I loved is the mythology and the folklore part of it.
01:26How difficult is it to make people invested in such a film?
01:29It's because you're pointing your figure again on something important.
01:33It's like it's a human journey.
01:35And the story focuses on that love story
01:37between a young man who tries to find his place in a new world
01:41and that young woman who helps him to understand a new culture.
01:45And he will, going into that new culture,
01:49try to find friends in order to fight the enemy.
01:51And it's like something, the idea of that love story is very human.
01:57It's a very human story.
01:59Sorry, I'm not…
02:01No, but what's so great about him is he creates this.
02:04Obviously, every movie has gotten bigger and bigger and bigger in scope
02:07and become more epic and all this stuff, but it's grand.
02:11And yet, he never loses the personal.
02:13The focus is on the emotional.
02:15So that's why I think it becomes,
02:18no matter what genre it is, it's sci-fi, it's this, it's that,
02:21if it's a good story and you feel like you can identify with it, that's it.
02:25It's all that matters.
02:26It's like a Bollywood movie without songs, really.
02:29I take that as a compliment.
02:31Of course, it's a compliment.
02:33I just have to ask, yesterday you told me on the red carpet
02:36that you thought The Desert, you have a love affair with it.
02:39It's brutal, yet it's enchanting.
02:41Do you guys think that? I know you have not filmed here, but still.
02:44No, I think that very much.
02:46There's something very enticing about it,
02:48and then there's something very overwhelming about it.
02:50You want to talk about lessons?
02:51Go live in the desert for six weeks.
02:54You are confronted ultimately with yourself over and over and over,
02:58and especially the way we did this movie.
03:00It was very practical. We were in it.
03:02It was hot.
03:03We were, you know, you got in amazing shape
03:05just because you were picking things up and carrying things and helping people.
03:09It was more of a family.
03:10It was a wonderful, wonderful experience.
03:12Right. It hasn't broken you. Desert hasn't broken you.
03:16No, and my wife and I, and Joshua mentioned it too,
03:22is that when we came here, the smell, the light,
03:26it brings back so many beautiful memories.
03:29I hope we will have the chance to come back.
03:32Excellent. Last question.
03:33How important is Oscar's glory for you?
03:35I know you got ten nods, one six.
03:38With Dune 2, I expect a lot more.
03:40It's not, when you make movies, it's not about the outcome.
03:43Seriously, it's about the process.
03:45Because I have no control how a movie will be received.
03:48Of course, we are making a movie for the audience,
03:51but I have no idea how people, and that's okay.
03:54So for me, it was just having the chance to work with these artists, and that's it.
03:58Oscars are not important as much for you two?
04:01No, they're really, really important.
04:05I love you.
04:06You know what it is? It's a nice gesture.
04:08If it happens, it's a nice gesture.
04:10But if you watch somebody or see somebody who's seen Dune at the airport,
04:14and they come up to you and go, oh my god, I just saw Dune, that's the same to me.
04:18You know what I mean? It's a personal reaction.
04:20How about you, sir?
04:22Yeah, I'm very indifferent about it.
04:24It's never been, well, throughout my whole career,
04:27whether it be acting or wrestling, it's never been about accolades.
04:31It's been about the process, the performance.
04:33You know, so it's really about the art for me.
04:36Right. Thank you so much for entertaining us.
04:38Awards are no awards. You guys won our hearts.
04:40Oh, you're sweet. Thank you.
04:44You're welcome.

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