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00:00But just to pick up on the point that was made by that EU foreign policy chief, I mean
00:04this concession that Ukraine will not be joining NATO now or probably ever as far as we understood
00:12from what was said to Vladimir Putin by Donald Trump, I mean is it useful to put a key negotiating
00:21issue on the table like that and just give it away before negotiations have even started?
00:26We know, typically one doesn't want to give away what one could assume would be the ask
00:31of the other side and that might very well have been an ask of Vladimir Putin, but again
00:36because there was opacity coming from the United States for a number of years and throughout
00:43about whether or not NATO would and should expand into Ukraine, it's not as if this was
00:50such a major concession, but there will be real questions, there will be questions about
00:55sovereignty in Ukraine and guaranteeing their sovereignty.
00:58And I do believe in the United States we have an obligation to provide the kinds of security
01:03guarantees and support to Ukraine that we also provide to many other allies around the
01:08world including South Korea, Israel, Taiwan and others where we make it clear that invading
01:16or crossing over into their territory will result in consequences.