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00:00If I lose my current speed, I'll retire.
00:04It's no fun.
00:07Tadao Ando is a Japanese architect.
00:11He was born in Osaka and grew up there.
00:15He always surprises people with innovative ideas.
00:19He is still making his name known from Osaka to the world.
00:25His life span is 100 years.
00:27He lives his youth like an unripe apple.
00:30Mr. Ando, who has a life of his own,
00:32talks with top artists from all over the world.
00:35This is Tadao Ando's Youth Talk.
00:41This week's guest is actor Michiko Tanaka.
00:47I couldn't give up my dream of being an architect.
00:50I passed the first-class architect exam.
00:53If you have hope and a goal, you can live.
00:58Mr. Ando and his friends will talk to each other
01:01and send an e-mail to those who live their 100-year-old lives.
01:24Michiko Tanaka passed the first-class architect exam in 2022.
01:30Mr. Tadao Ando has been leading Japanese architecture for decades.
01:37I'm afraid to meet him.
01:40He is a god.
01:42I'm a little nervous, but I haven't had a chance like this.
01:46I'd like to ask him a lot of questions.
01:50Tadao Ando's Youth Talk
01:56I've been learning architecture since I was a student.
01:59It started with the Great East Japan Earthquake.
02:02At that time, I had a longing for the job of an architect.
02:07I kept pursuing my dream of being an architect while doing entertainment.
02:15I passed the first-class architect exam three years ago.
02:18You passed the first-class architect exam.
02:21Mr. Tadao Ando used to play with a slide in the architecture department.
02:26I was surprised that he was riding a slide at home.
02:30I'm sure he's depressed.
02:33I can't help it.
02:35Anyway, you passed the exam.
02:37Thank you very much.
02:39It's not difficult.
02:41I heard that you studied alone.
02:45Yes.
02:46How did you study?
02:48I was in Osaka.
02:51Nara is close to Kyoto.
02:54I went to Tokyo University, Horyu-ji Temple, Katsura-yuki Temple, and Kiyomizu Temple.
03:02So I know what I like to do.
03:07I thought it would be interesting.
03:10After that, I went to a design office for a part-time job.
03:14I was fired in six months.
03:17What did you do?
03:19I did whatever I wanted to do.
03:21I said,
03:22It's your office, isn't it?
03:24He said,
03:25Of course it is.
03:27So I quit.
03:29I went to a hall again.
03:32When did you start designing?
03:37When I was about 22 years old.
03:40I got a job at a bar in Kitashinchi.
03:45At first.
03:46That's nice.
03:49My mother came out.
03:51She said,
03:52You don't have a bathroom, do you?
03:55I said,
03:56Really?
03:58I can't help it.
04:00I lived because I was so carefree.
04:03I didn't think much about the bathroom.
04:07I just thought it was interesting.
04:12I was angry that I couldn't use the bathroom.
04:16Humans can live if they have hope and purpose.
04:23Hope and purpose.
04:25If I were an actress,
04:27I would have the will to be an actress until I was about 95 years old.
04:33I think so.
04:35Purpose?
04:36If you don't have purpose, you can't live.
04:40What do you do when you have no purpose?
04:45I go to the park every week.
04:50I go there alone.
04:53Why?
04:55Because someone is following me.
04:57I'm in the way.
04:59I'm worried that someone is following me.
05:05I'm alone wherever I go.
05:08I have to go to Tokyo next week.
05:10I have to work for 45 minutes.
05:13I'm alone.
05:15I can't do it alone.
05:18I'm alone.
05:21I'm in the way of 30 people.
05:24Don't say that.
05:26I'm in the way.
05:31I don't have a salary.
05:34I'm in the way of 30 people.
05:37I have a lot of grandpas.
05:39Grandpas?
05:40Grandpas.
05:42My subordinates tell me that I'm on leave today.
05:49You're on leave?
05:50I'm on leave.
05:52What kind of agency do you work for?
05:57I'm in the way of 30 people.
06:01I'm in the way of designing.
06:06I came to Morocco to build a house.
06:11Two houses.
06:15There's no land in Morocco.
06:17It's close to the sea.
06:21What should I do?
06:24Land?
06:26The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport doesn't have land.
06:30Did you place an order?
06:31Yes.
06:33The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport says it's okay to build a house here.
06:39It's the son of Grace Kelly.
06:42It's the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport.
06:44They say it's okay to build a house here.
06:47I think it's interesting.
06:51I think it's more interesting to work for the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport.
06:57I built a house the other day.
07:01It's worth 3 billion yen.
07:06There are many people who buy it.
07:09It's excellent.
07:11I built two houses.
07:15There's another one.
07:17No, it's okay.
07:21There are many strange people.
07:25I wanted to build a villa in Ginza.
07:30In Ginza?
07:32A Chinese developer called me.
07:39He said he wanted to build a villa in Ginza.
07:42It's a great story.
07:44I thought it was a good story.
07:46He said he would buy 30 land plots.
07:50Even if there are 30 plots, there are 100 plots in 5 times.
07:57It's interesting to build a villa in Ginza.
07:59I said okay.
08:01It's the first time.
08:02There is no villa in Ginza.
08:04So I went there.
08:05I built it.
08:07Sometimes there are interesting things that I think I can't do.
08:16I'm sitting here.
08:18I don't have this one.
08:20I don't have this bar.
08:22I may fall.
08:24It's dangerous.
08:26It's dangerous here.
08:28I'm sitting here.
08:32I can't shake this.
08:34I can't shake it because it's heavy.
08:39If I get something interesting,
08:44I can't say it's interesting.
08:48So when I meet actresses,
08:52I call them.
08:54I see other actors.
08:57I think it's interesting.
09:01But it's hard for me.
09:03I think I should choose that.
09:05Because society gets what it thinks is interesting.
09:10Anyone can do this.
09:13I think I can get what I want.
09:24I studied urban planning when I was in university.
09:29I was interested in it.
09:31My teacher told me to look at buildings from the house.
09:38How did you study urban planning?
09:42I built a place called Naoshima.
09:48I went to Okayama from Naoshima by train.
09:53It was a strange train.
09:55I thought I'd never get there.
09:59I wanted to make an art museum.
10:0330 years ago, when Mr. Ukutake told me,
10:07I said I was against it.
10:09I said I'd never come here.
10:11I said it was pathetic.
10:14I said I'd do my best to come here.
10:17That's Mr. Ukutake.
10:19I think he was a bad student.
10:23I don't think so.
10:25I don't like people who come from outside.
10:33It's been about 10 years.
10:36I'm a member of a group.
10:40You're motivated.
10:42I've been doing this for 5 years.
10:47I think his success gave people a chance.
10:54I think so.
10:56The power to make dreams come true.
10:58We'll continue next week.