Un oficial de la Policía de la Ciudad fue víctima de un intento de robo por parte de dos jóvenes en Moreno. El policía logró defenderse, disparando y matando a uno de los asaltantes, un joven de 18 años con un prontuario sorprendente: detenido ocho veces en el último año y medio. El hecho ha reavivado el debate sobre las fallas del sistema judicial y la reincidencia delictiva.
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00:00and now in Moreno, a police officer from the city,
00:03again a police officer from the city,
00:05was a victim of motorcycle theft.
00:07One of 18 years old and another of 15 years old.
00:10Again a minor.
00:12In this case, the police managed to defend himself,
00:15shot and killed a 18-year-old young man
00:20with a really surprising warrant.
00:23Because in the last year and a half he was arrested,
00:26he went through the police station 8 times in a year and a half.
00:318 times.
00:32He came in and went out.
00:33He came in and went out.
00:348 times.
00:35It was the discussion we had yesterday with Fito Baque.
00:38We go with Diego de Nicolás,
00:40who is there in the neighborhood, there in Moreno.
00:43And we continue with all this debate that does not end.
00:46It started on Monday.
00:47Actually, we've been talking about this for a long time.
00:49But that's how things go.
00:51Diego de Nicolás live.
00:54How are you, Pablo? Good afternoon.
00:56Yes, this is Moreno.
00:57It is the most central area of Moreno.
00:59It is that urban strip that is between the old Route 7
01:03and the access to this, the most traditional,
01:06where all the streets are paved,
01:08where there is lighting,
01:10and where many neighbors even have beautiful houses.
01:13So sometimes the criminals also take the opportunity
01:16to take a walk around these places
01:18to see who they can steal from
01:20and what situation they can take advantage of.
01:23And this is what happened yesterday.
01:25What happened is that who they took as a victim
01:30was a police officer from the city
01:32who works at the Institute of Police Training
01:35in the city of Buenos Aires.
01:37There began the confrontation
01:39and ended with the balance that you just reported.
01:41An 18-year-old criminal
01:43with multiple income from other events at the police station
01:47and also this 18-year-old criminal
01:49received a bullet impact in the lumbar region.
01:52This caused him to die instantly.
01:55The other of the criminals, 15 years old,
01:57was hospitalized in a serious condition
02:00and then a third criminal escaped from the area.
02:04So it was a very violent event
02:06that had as a protagonist this police officer from the city
02:10who defended himself against the shots
02:12in the midst of a situation of maximum tension
02:14and in an extremely urban area of Moreno.
02:17Diego, it is impressive the number of police officers
02:19from the city who are being attacked in the province
02:21in just a month.
02:22Now let's go to that statistic.
02:23But I want to stop at a beginning.
02:25In the background of this 18-year-old young man
02:29who at just 18 years old,
02:31the last year and a half,
02:32entered the police station 8 times
02:34and had a arrest warrant.
02:35Can you explain this to me?
02:37In less time, Tobias.
02:38In a year.
02:39In a year.
02:40Because if we review the background
02:41that all have to do with crimes against property.
02:45You will see that the first time they arrest him
02:47and that he is registered.
02:48Because these are the times that they arrest him
02:50and he is registered.
02:51Do you think they are the only ones?
02:53That there is a 100% piracy here?
02:55These are not all the robberies he committed.
02:57It is when they caught him.
02:58Let's be honest.
02:59You have to multiply it by 2 or by 3.
03:00These are the ones who managed to stop him.
03:02If you go to the first and the antecedent
03:04has to do with August 19, 2023
03:07and the last fact for which there is a record
03:09that they have arrested him is August 16, 2024.
03:12In a year, right?
03:13We are seeing that in less than a year.
03:14In a year.
03:15There is an investment here, but it does not matter.
03:18But look at this.
03:19He is arrested.
03:20They are going from the newest to the oldest.
03:23But he is arrested on August 4
03:26and he falls again on August 19.
03:28And here if you review the crimes.
03:30And there we have ...
03:31If he is now 18 years old,
03:32we are talking that he was maybe 16 years old.
03:34Of course.
03:35Where he already fit what is the juvenile penal law.
03:38That's why we say that here we have a problem.
03:40Here we have a problem.
03:41Because we can approve the reiteration law
03:45and say, well, if he already has a record,
03:46then let him not have the benefit.
03:48If he made a mistake once and did not understand it,
03:50that he made a mistake once,
03:51that he is arrested, that he is arrested.
03:53But obviously we have a problem.
03:55Because here they got it 8 times.
03:57Sometimes when we criticize the police, right?
04:00And the police say, hey, but here it is.
04:02Look, I'll show you.
04:04Our part is done.
04:05We stop him over and over again.
04:07Or this is not even to win a discussion,
04:09because there is Fito who is not here today.
04:11He says, bring me some.
04:13Here we bring you one, but it does not matter.
04:15It is not a discussion between us,
04:17because we are all on the side of good.
04:19Here is that obviously we have a problem.
04:21Because of these 8 facts,
04:236 are of robbery and 2 of attempted robbery.
04:27That is, he did not achieve the robbery.
04:29It gives me the same, I'm going to tell you the truth.
04:31And of those 6, one is aggravated,
04:33for populated and in a band.
04:35That is, you have figures that are important
04:37and that obviously here something was ...
04:39Be careful, it is also true something.
04:41He had an arrest warrant.
04:43He had an arrest warrant in force.
04:45But he had an arrest warrant.
04:47But ...
04:49So if he has an arrest warrant,
04:51why didn't they release him twice?
04:53Explain to me what it would be.
04:55Because he must have an arrest warrant
04:57for subsequent causes.
04:59Maybe the one on July 3, 2024.
05:01The last one.
05:03Or the last fact.
05:05What happens is that you have to take into account something.
05:07Of all the causes we see there,
05:09from August 19 to August 23,
05:11which is the first?
05:13August 4, actually.
05:15August 4?
05:17It is the first that we know.
05:19The question is, are all the causes open?
05:21Because as a lawyer,
05:23I am obliged to say that
05:25if the causes are open,
05:27the defendant has no background.
05:29I don't want to go out to defend
05:31I agree with what Fito said yesterday.
05:33Wait, wait, wait.
05:35It's okay.
05:37Look at how things are.
05:39If the cause is open,
05:41it has no background.
05:43It has no background,
05:45even though it has been arrested eight times.
05:47Of course, it is an investigation.
05:49They are investigating a crime,
05:51which means that the defendant is being investigated
05:53by the commission of a crime.
05:55He is not guilty of that crime,
05:57because there is no sentence.
05:59If the causes are open,
06:01and taking into account
06:03the principle of freedom,
06:05no one should be convicted
06:07without prior trial.
06:09And if you don't have prior trial,
06:11you don't have conviction.
06:13You have to be free.
06:15I know that Jorge is holding his head.
06:17It doesn't matter.
06:19That's the game, right?
06:21These are the rules of the game.
06:23I am obliged to say it.
06:25The defendant is free.
06:27He held his head.
06:29Why doesn't he have trial?
06:31Why does a person who has so many open causes
06:33have so many background
06:35and doesn't have a trial?
06:37That's an excellent question,
06:39but it has to be answered
06:41by the judges who have these causes.
06:43August 4, 2023.
06:45He probably hasn't had an oral trial yet.
06:47So it's an open cause.
06:49Okay, but in the meantime,
06:51do they put you at risk?
06:53Do they put anyone at risk?
06:55Does he deserve what preventive prison is?
06:57If he deserves what preventive prison is,
06:59the crimes that are being investigated,
07:01he should already have a preventive prison.
07:03Clearly,
07:05all of these
07:07don't deserve a preventive prison
07:09or there is not enough merit
07:11to have a preventive prison.
07:13Hugo, I understand what you're saying.
07:15You're being technical.
07:17I know what people on the other side think.
07:19Alarcón is with a knife.
07:21And if my wife is listening to me,
07:23she's with a knife and fork, Jorge.
07:25I know.
07:27Let's go to Jorge,
07:29we've been listening to him.
07:31Doesn't he deserve a preventive prison?
07:33At least three robberies?
07:35Let's make a price.
07:37Two attempts and a robbery.
07:39Doesn't he deserve that?
07:41This guy doesn't learn anymore,
07:43he's going to keep stealing and he can kill.
07:45I mean, to think about it.
07:47But it's crazy.
07:49Preventive prison,
07:51there are two reasons.
07:53Danger of escape,
07:55you think this guy is not in danger of escape?
07:57He's not arrested
07:59because of what Ramón said.
08:01Did you hear what Ramón said?
08:03The police told him,
08:05the prosecutor asks us not to arrest him
08:07because they are minors.
08:09The prosecutor asks us not to arrest him
08:11because they are minors.
08:13That's the truth.
08:15And I wonder,
08:17what are the parents going to say
08:19about what happened to him?
08:21Don't they realize he's stealing?
08:23Take him to the police station,
08:25double sentence if he commits suicide,
08:27military and educational services,
08:29police station on the street
08:31and sweep with the crime.
08:33Yesterday we talked about the number of minors
08:35and they said it wasn't very big,
08:37I think it was 2%, Fito said.
08:39But yesterday I talked to a policewoman
08:41here at the door of the channel
08:43who told me that in Ciudad Evita
08:45most cases of crime are of minors.
08:47We are showing every day,
08:49it's not that we choose it,
08:51it's what's happening.
08:53Every day you have a minor
08:55at least as part of the group,
08:57as part of the band.
08:59And I say,
09:01if you have,
09:03this boy started at 16, 17 years
09:05clearly at least to be arrested.
09:07At least what we know.
09:09Finally,
09:11if you give him the signal
09:13and you give him a message
09:15and he says nothing happens.
09:17It's worse even for him that he ended up dead.
09:19Pablo, here,
09:21Jimena just asked a question
09:23that is the key.
09:25Ramon said that the prosecutor
09:27told him not to bring these guys
09:29because I have to release them.
09:31Do you think there are statistics
09:33of these guys?
09:35It is not convenient for the prosecutor,
09:37it is not convenient for the prosecutor
09:39and well, they have to release him.
09:41There is no statistics of minors,
09:43now, of minors,
09:45that are children, of minors
09:47that are poor, they are criminals,
09:49they are criminals,
09:51and you will see how this issue will end.
09:53Yes, minors also in Mar del Plata,
09:55we are going to show in some videos too.
09:57Here I agree with something
09:59that Jorge said a little while ago,
10:01that clearly,
10:03if the vast majority, Jimena,
10:05are minors, as they just told you,
10:07or yesterday,
10:09the legislators have to work
10:11to lower the age of imputability.
10:13Well, Hugo, the first thing you said
10:15was reasonable.
10:19Besides, he told me without anesthesia,
10:21the first reasonable thing,
10:23that they have to work
10:25in the low, I agree,
10:27but the crime is not solved
10:29by lowering the age
10:31of imputability.
10:33The crime is solved
10:35by working in society,
10:37in the family, in education.
10:39Yes, the path is long,
10:41but they have to work in this,
10:43they have to work in education.
10:45The 15-year-old boys
10:47have to be in school.
10:49The 16-year-old boys
10:51have to be in school.
10:53Military educational service.
10:55I agree.
10:57The minor does not work or study,
10:59he has to have an activity,
11:01and the activity can be the military service,
11:03mandatory, I don't know if educational,
11:05mandatory as it was when I was 18 years old,
11:07I was recruited to do the military service,
11:09I was saved by a low number, a high number,
11:11I don't remember anymore.
11:13But that has to be,
11:15because the minors have to have an activity.
11:17Today the minors,
11:19neither study nor work,
11:21they are on the street,
11:23and today it is easier for the family
11:25of these boys, they go out to party,
11:27and maybe they steal you,
11:29and with a cell phone they steal,
11:31an iPhone or a cell phone
11:33of the latest technology,
11:35and with that they spend the day.
11:37Let's see Hugo, today is January 30, 2025,
11:41how many police officers in the city
11:43were involved in a confrontation
11:45at the end of the year?
11:47We have already had 32 confrontations,
11:49and there is a quite particular phenomenon,
11:51which is what we want to stop,
11:53that they do not have confrontations
11:55sometimes,
11:57in the middle of their work day,
11:59with the same frequency
12:01that they are having as citizens,
12:03like you, like me,
12:05in their personal lives,
12:07of course, with a difference,
12:09they are police officers,
12:11and if the criminal discovers
12:13that he is a police officer,
12:15they are exposed,
12:17they are police officers,
12:19and if they have their gun,
12:21they use it to repel
12:23or avoid a crime.
12:25This is the big difference.
12:27If you go back in time,
12:29this phenomenon,
12:31in 2023,
12:33we had an average
12:35that gave an attack
12:37or a confrontation
12:39one every three days.
12:41Last year, the statistics changed,
12:43in 2024, the year that just ended,
12:45one every two days,
12:47and now they are in a case
12:49per day or less,
12:51because 24 hours a day
12:53the average gives 20.
12:55This is updated to yesterday's date,
12:57which is when these last two cases were given,
12:59the one of Moreno,
13:01that we are analyzing,
13:03and another one that happened in Bernal.
13:05Now, look,
13:07since 2000, there we have it,
13:09the relationship of what I told you just now.
13:11Now, let's go back to the detail of the previous one,
13:13because, of course, it is not a minor event,
13:15and we also have an event
13:17illustrated with the photo of the victim,
13:19the police officer Brian Coria,
13:21a dead officer, where they want to steal his motorcycle,
13:23as in this case
13:25that we were just seeing there in Moreno,
13:27we are going to Bernal,
13:29because it is a car that they want to steal.
13:31In this case, it is the motorcycle.
13:33Typical situation.
13:35Either they come to work
13:37or they come to work as police officers in the capital,
13:39but they live in the province,
13:41because, relatively, the police force
13:43of the city is a new force,
13:45it was nurtured in some cases
13:47by people who came from the Bonaerense,
13:49in others there are already new generations
13:51of police officers who were received
13:53after their training
13:55and practice in the city of Buenos Aires,
13:57but they live in the province,
13:59and look at what happens,
14:01the phenomenon that three motorcyclists
14:03go out to attack him,
14:05he defends himself, kills one,
14:07does not kill him at the moment,
14:09he hurts two, let's say so,
14:11then one
14:13is forced by the family,
14:15the mother, to ask for medical attention,
14:17arrives in an ambulance
14:19without vital signs,
14:21to the hospital,
14:23and there is a 15-year-old boy
14:25with three bullet wounds,
14:27then one dead, one with three bullet wounds,
14:29look at the age, 15 years,
14:31and another that at this point
14:33is still in a state of emergency.
14:35It is impressive the number of videos
14:37that our television viewers
14:39are making us get,
14:41impressive.
14:43Diego, how is the mood
14:45of the neighbors in Moreno,
14:47a hot place too?
14:49Yes, because, look,
14:51Pablo, we are used to
14:53narrating security measures
14:55that neighbors often take,
14:57which is the oldest of all,
14:59or perhaps that people
15:01have started to use for a long time?
15:03The fence, for example,
15:05you look around,
15:07there is not a house
15:09that does not have a fence.
15:11Then what did they start to put?
15:13Alarms, well, practically
15:15all houses have alarms,
15:17either a monitoring system
15:19or a single alarm, let's say, in the house.
15:21After they started to put security cameras,
15:23who can,
15:25put a security camera,
15:27like that person who is there.
15:29After they put some,
15:31wired, electrified,
15:33or put some lines above,
15:35well, it is also something more expensive.
15:37And so they add layers and layers
15:39and layers and layers of security
15:41and nothing reaches.
15:43And also, we must say,
15:45dear Diego, also,
15:47there is a criminal root,
15:49because they ran into a policeman,
15:51because they already came from previous events,
15:53and if they had not run into a policeman,
15:55and they continue, and they continue,
15:57and they continue, and they continue.
15:59There is a criminal root.
16:01In relation to what you say, Bobby,
16:03there was that same day,
16:05in that same root,
16:07at least two facts have been detected
16:09in which they participated.
16:11One approached a person who was on a bicycle,
16:13and another approached a transsexual.
16:15I have a lot of material to share,
16:17because in this thing of going out to show off,
16:19and I go out to be,
16:21that I understand well, as a criminal,
16:23laborers, in quotation marks,
16:25because that's what they call it,
16:27they go out on a cane, they go out on a motorcycle,
16:29the motochorros,
16:31look, in the middle of the same root,
16:33whatever comes to them,
16:35whatever,
16:37this is, minutes before,
16:39the same criminals.
16:41There are three motochorros, one in a ...
16:43Two on a motorcycle,
16:45the other in a single one,
16:47are the same ones that later attack the police.
16:49And where is the police there, Bobby?
16:51No, well, no.
16:53But we can't have one per block.
16:55It is impossible.
16:57You put cameras,
16:59it is impossible that there is a police in each block.
17:01We agree, but it is impossible
17:03that there is a police per block.
17:05There is no police, but they could monitor.
17:07But you don't have rotation,
17:09you don't have a constant monitoring camera,
17:11as it happens in the city of Buenos Aires.
17:13That is, the province of Buenos Aires,
17:15no one's land.
17:17But this guy had to be arrested.
17:19Well, we're back.
17:21I understand the technique,
17:23but he entered the police station eight times.
17:25Let's go to this.
17:27In the riot, in which everything works for you,
17:29minutes before, they did it to this boy,
17:31he, doing what is always recommended,
17:33they don't resist you,
17:35you come for this,
17:37you come for this, I know,
17:39you come for this,
17:41then you forgive her,
17:43I don't know if someone shouted at a neighbor,
17:45if there was a visitor alarm,
17:47they leave, they leave.
17:49Now, these are the same people following the riot.
17:51Another old man had been robbed by an older man,
17:53and then, of course,
17:55they run into a policeman.
17:57And this is what I want to insist on with this idea.
17:59They have less confrontations,
18:01today,
18:03as part of their work day,
18:05where an investigation is carried out,
18:07an investigation, a preventive activity, a prosecutor who orders a measure, a diligence, an operation, a search.
18:14They have less there than as citizens, than in their private lives.
18:19You know, I was thinking about what you said, Hugo, and the police, the police are being harassed.
18:26To give you an idea of how we are. They steal from the police.
18:30Well, then let the prefecture and the army go out to the street to take care of the police.
18:34But it's a security issue.
18:37When the neighbors talk to the police, the police say, I don't have a cell phone, I don't have this.
18:42When you talk to the Ministry of Security, you say, the nation is not going to shout at me.
18:46So the government gives more budget to the security forces.
18:50Yes.
18:51And in this matter, I want to explain that everything works for them, anything works for them.
18:58They are so stingy, they are so robbers, that they take the bicycle to an older man.
19:03To the other boy, the cell phone.
19:05And they wanted to make fun of him.
19:07And the other day, a baby was stolen from him. Do you remember?
19:09I want, of course, to remember that the other days, here we show you how, in a case,
19:13they go, they face the mother, as Hugo says, and they find that, of course,
19:18as she came from the hairdresser, the little boy was small and bored,
19:21the cell phone had been in the hands of the baby.
19:23Do you remember?