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00:00Hello and welcome to Sports Room. I am your host, Najeeb Ulhasnain.
00:18The second and last test match between Pakistan and the West Indies will start in Multan tomorrow.
00:23The Pakistan team is determined to win.
00:26We have with us our sports correspondent, Shahid Hashmi.
00:29Welcome to the show.
00:31The challenge is to equalise the West Indies and win the series against Pakistan.
00:35It is easy for Pakistan. The condition is of our interest and we will make it even more so.
00:40What do you think, what will be the team?
00:42I think it will be decided by tonight.
00:45Your second option is better to win the series 2-0 against Pakistan.
00:49Pakistan is a favourite and they have made their conditions.
00:52I was happy to see both the press conferences today.
00:55Aqib Javed also said that if people have a problem, Pakistan is winning the test match through spinners.
01:02They are saying that if we win with fastballers, Pakistan's cricket will move forward.
01:06If we win with spinners, Pakistan's cricket will move backward.
01:08This is absolutely wrong. We have to take drastic measures.
01:11If we had done this a year and a half ago, we would have been in the final run of the World Test Championship.
01:17This is my request to Aqib.
01:22Whenever you have a tour in England, send 4-5 fastballers or Pakistan Shines there 2 months in advance.
01:30So that you can practice properly.
01:32The same question was asked to Craig Bradford.
01:34Are these pitches good for test cricket?
01:36He said that he has played on such pitches before.
01:39But I have never seen a crack from the first day.
01:43But Pakistan is the host.
01:45Cricket is like this. The host makes pitches as per his wish.
01:48Yes, it is true that the host makes pitches as per his wish.
01:51But the point is the same.
01:53No one is disagreeing with what Mr. Shahid said.
01:56This is his formula. He is succeeding in this.
01:58Everyone likes to win.
02:00The point is that after this, we have to make a balance somewhere.
02:04We have to do other things well.
02:07You will make a balance when the series will be different.
02:09You went to South Africa. Aqib answered this.
02:12When you went to South Africa, you selected spinners.
02:14You played cricket with fastballers.
02:16You had a little bad luck.
02:18Or if you had planned properly, you gave rest to Shaheen and Naseem.
02:21Because you wanted to bring Shaheen and Naseem in the Fresh Champions Trophy and Tri Series.
02:26You gave them a rest there.
02:28If you had given each of them a test match,
02:30then perhaps Pakistan would have given a different result.
02:32And the runs that Pakistan made on the last wickets in the first test match in the Centurion,
02:37perhaps that would not have happened if you had planned properly.
02:40You will have to plan differently for each series.
02:42Pakistan is not the country where you will play with balance.
02:46Pakistan has to take drastic measures.
02:48That's why you were winless in 11 test matches in 3 years.
02:52You are absolutely right.
02:53Let's join us in this discussion.
02:55Former fastballer Abdul Rauf.
02:56Rauf, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
02:58Wa-Alaikum-Salam.
03:00Rauf, we are talking about tomorrow's test match.
03:05What are you seeing?
03:06What team will be played?
03:08And what chances are you seeing?
03:13I think it will be almost the same team.
03:15And there won't be much change in it.
03:18Because both spinners of Pakistan are dominating.
03:22And if you look at England's series,
03:24the last two test matches,
03:26and the last test match against West Middlesex,
03:29Sajid Khan and Namal dominated.
03:32And I don't think there will be any place for fastballers.
03:35As far as batting is concerned,
03:37Horaira was definitely included in Abdullah Shafeeq's place.
03:40And Saim and Youb have been unfit.
03:42I don't think Horaira should leave the team so soon after a test match.
03:48He should give a chance to someone else.
03:49If you have given a chance to a youngster,
03:51then he should be given a full opportunity.
03:53And he should be given this second test match at any cost.
03:58I forgot to tell you.
04:00I think they will drop Khurram Shehzad and give a chance to Imam Ul Haq.
04:04Then where will Horaira go?
04:05Horaira will definitely open.
04:07And it is possible that Horaira and Imam will open.
04:09And Shaan will come on three.
04:10Babar will come on four.
04:12You are saying there won't be a single fastballer?
04:14Yes, you have three spinners.
04:16And you have a fourth spinner,
04:18who is a good quality spinner, Salman.
04:20You won't need him in the first place.
04:23Even if you need him,
04:24you can get a few from Shaan Masood.
04:26He is a medium pace.
04:27You do courses on horses.
04:29By giving a chance to Imam,
04:30you can at least check Imam.
04:31This is very unjust.
04:32You didn't even allow Imam to sit.
04:35You made him sit on a bad series.
04:37After a bad series,
04:39he was removed.
04:40But Horaira was also knocking at the door for the last 2-3 years.
04:44He scored 986 in the first season.
04:46He scored 1024 in the second season.
04:49All his first class centuries,
04:51are daddy hundreds.
04:53Big scores.
04:54Absolutely right.
04:55What advice do you have for Aqib Javed,
04:57who was supposed to defend this pitch?
04:59And what advice do you have for Rahul?
05:01In Test cricket,
05:03if you had taken this decision earlier,
05:05you would have been in the final race.
05:07If you hadn't reached,
05:09you would have been in the race.
05:10If you win at home,
05:12and if you win 2-3 test matches abroad,
05:16then you become a strong candidate for the final.
05:19We think,
05:20we should make such turning pitches,
05:21and take spinners as victors.
05:23So what is the problem in this?
05:25I am surprised,
05:27if fast bowlers win,
05:29cricket moves forward,
05:31and if spinners win,
05:33cricket moves backward.
05:36I don't understand.
05:37From today onwards,
05:39we feel that,
05:41we can make these pitches in every center of Pakistan.
05:44And here,
05:45it should be as difficult for Pakistan,
05:47to defeat Pakistan,
05:49as the Pakistani team goes to Australia,
05:51or South Africa.
05:52If people feel that,
05:54we are going to Pakistan,
05:56then we have to do something extraordinary to win.
05:59Rahul,
06:00the question that Aqib has put,
06:02that is,
06:03if fast bowlers win,
06:05cricket moves forward,
06:07if spinners win,
06:08cricket moves backward.
06:09I don't understand.
06:10My question is,
06:11if only one wicket is won,
06:13if only spinners win,
06:14and if only spinners play,
06:15and neither batsmen,
06:16nor fast bowlers,
06:17nor anyone else,
06:18then is it going backward,
06:20or not?
06:22Look,
06:23I think it is baseless.
06:24A person who has played so much,
06:26and has played so much test cricket,
06:28should not say such things.
06:29If you make true pitches,
06:31and if a fast bowler performs on a true pitch,
06:34and takes 10 wickets,
06:35then definitely,
06:36he has the ability,
06:37and his technique,
06:38he is successful in his tests.
06:40And if there is a spinner on a true pitch,
06:42the spinners who have been with us,
06:44great Abdul Qadir,
06:45Siplayan Mushtaq,
06:46or Mushtaq Ahmed,
06:47they have proved their ability,
06:48in England,
06:49Australia,
06:50New Zealand,
06:51and they have taken wickets everywhere.
06:53It doesn't mean that,
06:54if you want to produce spinners,
06:56then you start making such pitches,
06:58by rubbing them like this,
07:00and start their preparation in such a way,
07:03that neither your batsman,
07:04nor your fast bowler,
07:05can score there.
07:07So,
07:08you are going with an old thinking,
07:10and you want to play cricket of the 70s and 80s.
07:13So, it means,
07:14if you had to go to win,
07:15by making such excuses,
07:17then why did you introduce Newton Empire?
07:19Then why did you introduce other things in cricket?
07:21And as far as you are giving examples,
07:23of Australia,
07:24or England's pitches,
07:25then you see,
07:26England's grounds,
07:27or Lord's pitch,
07:28they support seam bowlers.
07:29If you go to Ogle,
07:31there,
07:32your pitch,
07:33the batsmen,
07:34they support them.
07:36Similarly,
07:37if you go to North,
07:38they support seam bowlers.
07:39In Australia,
07:40Sydney has always been a favourite for seam bowlers.
07:42Perth,
07:43on Melbourne's pitch,
07:45there was a sporting pitch,
07:46batsmen used to score there.
07:48A good bowler didn't score 10 wickets,
07:50and a good spinner scored 10 wickets.
07:53So, it doesn't mean that
07:54they have started doing such weird stories.
07:59When you don't have anything,
08:01where are you going?
08:02I don't understand,
08:03if you play cricket without a fast bowler,
08:06then where do you want to take your cricket to,
08:08in the 21st century,
08:09and where do you want to take it to?
08:10Then the end result will be the same.
08:12You tell me,
08:13in the last 5 years,
08:14in the last 10 years,
08:15tell me one bowler who didn't score 100 wickets in test cricket.
08:17Tell me one batsman
08:18who scored 5000 runs,
08:20and tell me one spinner
08:21who didn't score 100 wickets in the last 10 years.
08:24Shahid sir,
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