Budget 2025: देश का बजट पेश होने में चंद दिन रह गए हैं. वित्त मंत्री निर्मला सीतारमण 1 फरवरी को उम्मीदों का बजट संसद में पेश करेंगी. बजट को लेकर हर इंडस्ट्री को उम्मीदें हैं, जिसमें एजुकेशन टेक्नोलॉजी सेक्टर भी शामिल हैं. एआई के जमाने में ऑनलाइन एजुकेशन को लेकर पॉलिसीज बनाने समेत कई तरह की मांग है. इस पर गुडरिटर्न्स की एडिटर श्रुति सरकार ने FUTURE FOCUS: BUDGET 2025 के नए एपिसोड में upGrad के को-फाउंडर मयंक कुमार से खास बातचीत की.
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00:00Budget 2025 is one of the most important events this year, in which our Finance Minister Nirmala
00:14Sitaraman will present the budget in the Parliament on February 1, 2025.
00:22From the corporate sector to the education sector, everybody is very keenly waiting for
00:27the budget.
00:28Hello and welcome.
00:29My name is Shruti Sarkar and you're watching Good Returns.
00:32And in this episode of Future Focus Budget 2025, we will talk to Mayank Kumar, co-founder
00:40of Brad.
00:41Hello Mayank.
00:42Hi Shruti.
00:43Welcome to the show.
00:46My very first question is, what is your overall, as an Indian citizen, what is your overall
00:52expectations from the budget?
00:55My overall expectation will be the same as every year, that there should be more focus
01:01on employment and job creation in the economy, because it's one big area that as a country
01:07that we need to focus on.
01:10And given my area of competence or area of working has been in education, skills, learning
01:19and development.
01:20So if we can get more impetus in these sectors, that will definitely help us in creating skilled
01:27talent and skilled manpower for global deployment and global economy.
01:31So broadly, these are the two things that are most relevant for us, which I would like
01:38to focus on.
01:39I mean, I'd like to see the focus on the budgets overall.
01:44Mayank, moving forward, in this budget, what kind of probably new schemes or policies you're
01:52expecting in the education sector and especially in the edtech sector?
01:59As I said that there's no scheme that is needed.
02:01But from a policy intervention perspective, there are a couple of things that definitely
02:05should come up.
02:06I think the first thing is that as a country in India, we are not encouraged to spend on
02:13ourselves for learning.
02:14And I think today, when AI, machine learning, data science are all becoming that big, there
02:21is a significant requirement for human capital upliftment and everybody should go through
02:25skilling and reskilling, etc.
02:27So the way you get tax benefit in ATC to invest in mutual funds, I would love to see a similar
02:36strategy which can incentivize people who are currently working for their own upskilling
02:41and reskilling.
02:42A certain portion of your salary, you can invest in your own education, and there is
02:47some benefit that you get as part of similar to what ATC mutual fund life insurance schemes
02:52have made mutual fund into what they are today.
02:55So if you want to make skilling in a much larger sort of agenda for the country, I think
03:02some kind of incentivization on corporate skilling, corporate upskilling, corporate
03:06reskilling would definitely be helpful.
03:08The second thing that I think Shruti will help us with is that if we can make a public-private
03:15partnership, because artificial intelligence are areas where India can become the center
03:22for excellence.
03:23And just like India took a very strong position in IT, we can take a similar position in AI.
03:32So some kind of a budget allocation would be essential for India to boost the skill
03:37development through public-private partnership for creating AI center of excellence.
03:42If we can make that, then the vision of the government of 2047 of Viksit Bharat, a large
03:47portion of that can be potentially solved for.
03:49The third thing is a counter-intuitive point for me, because we are seeing that a lot of
03:57Indian talent is required globally.
04:01So if you are seeing that a lot of people are going abroad for study abroad or for jobs,
04:06then India receives about $125 billion worth of remittance coming in from the talent that
04:12are outside India.
04:15And I believe that as we progress in the future, more and more Indian talent will be deployed
04:20internationally.
04:21And our remittance will increase, and our remittance of $125-130 billion, it is equal
04:28to our oil import bill, it is equal to our IT export.
04:32Some kind of benefit for people who are looking at moving abroad, either for studies or for
04:37work or for jobs, because that will enable us to position India as a talent capital for
04:42the global economy.
04:43So these are the 2-3 things that I think if we focus on those, it will definitely help
04:48us in creating a much stronger presence altogether.
04:51Mahendra, you talked about AI, we talked about upskillings.
04:57I have a question, I have a different kind of question to ask.
05:00Even now, in the rural India, a lot of people are not aware, you know, awareness is something
05:07that we need to probably create in the future.
05:11How can the government promote adoption of edtech solutions, especially in the rural
05:17area?
05:18If you see, startup was not a big name earlier.
05:21But why did startup became what it became today is because a lot of evangelizing was
05:25done by the government.
05:27And I think pure play for evangelizing, I think government can play a massive role.
05:31I think if you look at the infrastructure of the government, the broader sort of presence
05:37that the government has across last mile and grassroot level, if you go to a small school
05:43in the village, they are also present there.
05:45If you go to a small post office, they are also present there.
05:49So I think at a grassroot level, the biggest role that the government can play is in evangelizing
05:54and promoting the use of AI.
05:56Aaj ke date pe, if you can use AI really well, as a farmer, you can get a much better yield
06:02for your crops.
06:04As somebody working remotely, you can find better ways in which you can enhance your
06:08productivity.
06:09Toh I think yeh saari ki saari cheezein bahut hi critical hai.
06:12Toh from my side, I don't expect any tax break or any tax incentive for this thing.
06:17But a very strong role for as an evangelist definitely will help India adopt AI in a much
06:23more meaningful manner.
06:24Agar sab kuch sahi chale toh probably very soon we can see the impact of AI in our agri
06:32sector too.
06:33You rightly said that.
06:35But having said that, ek question yeh bhi aata hai ki if it goes to the wrong hands,
06:40a lot of wrongdoings can happen.
06:43So do you believe, kya yeh aapko lagta hai ki humare government ko kuch regulations
06:51naana chahiye, be it AI, be it the ag tech sector, be it anything that is related to
06:59artificial intelligence or something that is technical?
07:02No, no.
07:03I'm completely on board with that.
07:04Just mere do do point hai, jab bhi koi nahi technology aati hai, unn technologies ke kuch
07:09positive aur kuch negative factors hamesha rehte hai.
07:12So koi cheeze positive rehegi, koi cheeze negative rehegi, that definitely will happen.
07:17But specifically to AI, mera maanana yeh hai ki the benefit far outweighs the cons
07:25that the technology brings along with it.
07:29Jis tarhi ki productivity gain ki hum baatein kar rahe hain, wo bahut hi positive hogi economy
07:34ke liye than the negative side of it.
07:36Having said that, there are negative aspects.
07:39There are biases, there are hallucinations, there are issues with AI.
07:42Aap kaise control kar sakte ho narrative on the media?
07:47Aap kaise fake, aaj ki tariq mein aapka mera koi se video, you can easily generate with
07:53AI and sort of promote it.
07:55I think all those create much different kind of issues in terms of mass adoption of AI.
08:03So I think government should not over-regulate, but definitely set the guiding framework that
08:08can define what the country could be.
08:10And I think agar aap dekhoge hawaari jo IT policy hai, ya hawaari jo technology policy
08:14hai, it is very well crafted and well built because it allows a lot of international players
08:21to come and innovate in India.
08:22Toh bahut saare international toh India mein aankhi innovate kar sakte hain.
08:26It also allows a huge amount of Indian startup ecosystem to thrive on the same infrastructure.
08:30Toh mera jo maana ye hai ki jis tarhi ke se humne technology ko regulate kiya tha aur
08:36ek guiding principle lagaya tha, ek similar kind of guiding principle definitely is needed
08:40in AI as well, which can ensure that there is a very right adoption of what AI is doing
08:47in the overall scheme of things.
08:48Before I let you go, Mayank, one last question.
08:50Agar aapko abhi the current landscape of the edtech sector humein batana hai for our viewers
08:57and probably what is the near-term or the mid-term expectations ki how will it grow
09:05further?
09:06Toh aap kya kahenge?
09:07I think yeh question bahut baar iss se bhi aata hai because there have been certain instances
09:11in the space jahaan pe ki some large players may not have played by the rule and have sort
09:17of gone on the side way.
09:19Magar dekhe education as a sector bahut bada hai.
09:22Education aisa ek sector hai aur aisa space hai jahaan pe ki aap scale pe operate kar
09:27sakte hoon.
09:29Education ek aisa space hai jahaan pe ki aap large scale impact kar sakte hoon.
09:34Education ek aisa space hai jahaan pe ki aap kisi individual ke career aur life ko poori
09:38tariki se change kar sakte hoon.
09:39Toh I think mujhe ek do company ki coincidence se sector pe koi point mark nahi hai.
09:47Mujhe lagta hai ki yeh sector bahuti strong hai aur bahuti achi tariki se aage bhi badega.
09:53Sahi entrepreneurs ko ispe sahi reasons ke liye aana padega.
09:56Yeh fata fat money bada karke bhaagne wala sector nahi hai.
10:00It's not fly by the night operators who will come in and build something and move on.
10:04Aapko focus karke apne students aur apne learners aur apne candidates ke life me aur iske learning
10:11journey pe ek outcome create karna padega.
10:13Agar aap sahi tariki se outcome create karte hoon, this sector will reward you in the process
10:18itself because there is enough pool for multiple entrepreneurs to come and build multiple large
10:24scale use cases which can enable and enhance the productivity of the country and will produce
10:30best kind of output from a talent perspective.
10:33Because last year when I told Shruti that India mein aur zyada koi natural resources
10:37hai nahi.
10:38Our biggest natural resource is our talent pool and therefore we have to work really
10:42hard and that gives entrepreneurs massive opportunities to build something unique, something
10:49at scale, something that can have impact to a very large section of society.
10:53Our national resource is our talent pool, that's a very nice kicker line Mayank.
10:59Thank you so much for coming on the show today.
11:04That was Mayank Kumar, co-founder of GRAD.
11:07Thank you viewers for watching us.