👉 Tras el picante ida y vuelta con Mirtha Legrand, Roberto García Moritán se volcó a sus redes y subió un mensaje contundente.
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00:00Do you want to know about the lives of celebrities?
00:02I think you want to know, Mirta.
00:04You're hiding behind the idea that people...
00:08I'm not interested in knowing about you.
00:11I'm not interested in knowing about you.
00:13It's good to know about the people you invite.
00:15I bring you because people are interested, yes.
00:17It's a topic that interests them.
00:18They were looking for you a lot.
00:20You agreed to come to my show, so I thank you.
00:22Honestly, I thought that...
00:24To be honest, I thought you were going to be different.
00:27What?
00:28I thought you were going to be different.
00:29That you were going to interview in a different way,
00:31without having such a defined, clear position,
00:33and without so much desire to attack me.
00:35It's not knowing me.
00:36Well, it could be, obviously.
00:38But I thought you were going to be different.
00:40But if you were in my place,
00:42if you were in my place, what would you do?
00:44I would ask, but without being so clear,
00:47or showing the position so clearly.
00:50I don't know the filmmaker.
00:52I'm not interested in what happened to his private life.
00:56But what I saw in this scene was a lack of respect.
01:01We have to watch the whole movie.
01:03Give me that chance to explain it to you at this point.
01:05Let's see.
01:06What was the media reason why Roberto García Moritán
01:08went to Mirta's table after the call from the hostess?
01:11Yes.
01:12The separation with Mirta.
01:13I mean, everything that has to do with political issues
01:15can come to a 24-hour program.
01:16I thought he was the Minister of Economic Development
01:18of the city of Buenos Aires.
01:19Of course.
01:20No, no.
01:21People are not super interested in the management...
01:23He brought documents.
01:25But he was also very ephemeral.
01:27I say this with respect to Roberto,
01:28because he is a very courteous guy,
01:29who yesterday broke the rule and was quite reactive,
01:32challenging at times, uncourteous,
01:34and even cheeky with a 97-year-old lady,
01:36who, for me, doesn't have the insurance of any.
01:39Don't put anything as an impediment, because...
01:41Let's go fair.
01:42Just as it is a virtue that a person of X amount...
01:4597 to 98.
01:46...of years is one of the best conductors,
01:48and how he asks and what he does.
01:50I think that in this case, first,
01:52Mr. Moritán was super correct in the way he told him.
01:55I thought it was going to be different.
01:56There is another fragment that we will see later,
01:58in which he comments,
01:59I think you are treating me badly.
02:01And he says it very calmly,
02:03in a place that was hostile to him,
02:06and that was hostile throughout the whole scene.
02:09So, I think there was a lack of respect on the part...
02:13From here, the truth is...
02:15I don't know if I am qualified to evaluate what Mirta says,
02:18but we are watching a tape,
02:19so I'm going to make my comment from this humble side.
02:22I think the interviewer lacked respect,
02:25first, because she didn't ask questions.
02:27She directly attacked.
02:28Then, because no guest union.
02:30Yes, you invited him.
02:31How are you going to have a guest union?
02:32The one you called directly so that he had.
02:34And third, because it was an important voice for your program.
02:37And it seems to me...
02:38Well, but there is the answer that Roberto did not have.
02:41When he said,
02:42you are not so important,
02:43after a climb of back and forth,
02:45it is not that out of nowhere Mirta attacked him,
02:47but he was eluding all kinds of answers.
02:49And at one point he said,
02:50I'm not going to be the second Susana,
02:52Mirta said.
02:53Here he comes to talk, or else don't come.
02:55Now, at that moment,
02:56when he said, you are not so important,
02:58Roberto had an ace up his sleeve that he did not throw at the table,
03:00which is,
03:01today yes,
03:02the great Silvana Suárez.
03:03I could have said,
03:04today yes, Mirta, I am important.
03:05Yes, but...
03:06And that's why you called me.
03:07But no.
03:08He sat at the table,
03:09continued sharing the dinner.
03:11He chatted with the other guests,
03:13who were very good.
03:14Very good, Sophie Martínez.
03:16Franco too,
03:17who at one point wants to relax,
03:18and says,
03:19you get along very well with Pampita, right?
03:21He asks Mirta,
03:22to relax a little too.
03:24What tension there was at that table.
03:25There is a reality,
03:26Moritán has to know,
03:27that if he goes and sits at Mirta's table,
03:29knowing the kind of journalism that Mirta does.
03:32You have to have a title.
03:33Mirta Valgüeso,
03:34whether you like it or not,
03:35Valgüeso,
03:36then,
03:37I believe that the rules of the game,
03:39of the move,
03:40both knew.
03:41But Valgüeso without question.
03:42Valgüeso without question.
03:43Valgüeso without question.
03:44Valgüeso without question.
03:45We are all for Valgüeso.
03:46But,
03:47Moritán is an economist.
03:48Yes.
03:49Was it a news channel?
03:50Was it a program in which
03:51political and economic debate?
03:52No.
03:53It was Mirta's program,
03:54where they were going to ask her about her life.
03:55If you are going to do Mirta's program,
03:56happy,
03:57you will not be asked,
03:58what is the rate of elasticity
03:59of the product.
04:00Lucio,
04:01he did not want to run the focus.
04:02He was interested in what he did.
04:03He took documentation,
04:04showing that the corruption complaints
04:05that there were about him,
04:06were quickly removed.
04:07That was the only important thing.
04:08He was interested in what he did.
04:09He took documentation,
04:10showing that the corruption complaints
04:11that there were about him,
04:12were quickly removed.
04:13That was the only important thing.
04:14To be honest,
04:15he does not care about anyone,
04:16because he is still Pampita's husband,
04:17or Pampita's ex.
04:18He does not care about anyone.
04:19That is the reality.
04:20But you invited me to your program,
04:21Treat Me Well.
04:22There was no question for me,
04:23about Mirta.
04:24He was going to answer,
04:25it seems to me.
04:26There was no question.
04:27Roberto tagged Mirta,
04:28throwing a supposed infidelity
04:29of Daniel Tiner,
04:30after the question of Sofi Martínez,
04:31for a file of Jorge Ginzburg.
04:32So,
04:33what does Mirta say?
04:34But he prescribed a thousand years ago.
04:35So,
04:36he brings an old folder,
04:37a little bit full of dust on top.
04:38So,
04:39Mirta told him,
04:41My life was impeccable.
04:42He did not mean that it was impeccable.
04:43Compared to you,
04:44at this moment,
04:45my life was impeccable.
04:46I think Mirta kept many things.
04:47I think he was out of focus.
04:48Roberto,
04:49who is a very focused man,
04:50very mental.
04:51But,
04:52the only thing he was going to have to answer,
04:53was a question.
04:54And we are all journalists.
04:55What happened on September 20,
04:56for your marriage to fly in the air?
04:57Was there a question from Mirta?
04:58There were questions.
04:59But,
05:00at one point,
05:01the emotion ...
05:02It was first the attack.
05:03It was the attack.
05:04It was the attack.
05:05It was the attack.
05:06It was the attack.
05:07It was the attack.
05:08It was the attack.
05:09It was the attack.
05:10It was the attack.
05:11It was the attack.
05:12I think,
05:13I repeat,
05:14Have you seen the whole program?
05:15Yes.
05:16He started to allude him,
05:17allude him,
05:18allude Mirta.
05:19He is also trained
05:20how to be able ...
05:21He wanted to take his speech,
05:22that was his papers,
05:23showing ...
05:24Let's say I'm going
05:25on Roberto's side.
05:26Yes.
05:27He says it's a political operation
05:28and this cost me my marriage.
05:29He said,
05:30Who did the political operation to him?
05:31No,
05:32his mouth fell.
05:33So,
05:34you twisted the axis of the interview
05:35that Mirta did not want to go there,
05:36you accused her of being a political operator
05:37Didn't you say who told you to leave the government in the city?
05:40Now, Moritán was very strong, so to speak.
05:43Moritán was very strong in his expectation of somehow
05:46cleaning up his image for the corruption cases,
05:48and the issue of Mirta was on the other side.
05:50Don't you think he didn't know he was going to be asked about infidelity?
05:52More so, being Mirta as she is.
05:53Yes, but maybe he had the illusion
05:55that this issue was not going to be all the time,
05:57and all the time, and all the time, to return to that.
06:00I think Moritán's answer, which is in another court,
06:03which we will surely share,
06:05was, Mirta, I think you are treating me badly,
06:09with total respect.
06:11I didn't see a lack of respect from Moritán.
06:13Did you see a lack of respect? At what point?
06:15Let's see, he is a skilful declarant, of course,
06:18and I say again, with me particularly,
06:20he has always been a man with courtesy,
06:22even in the most uncomfortable situation of his life.
06:24I don't know him, I've never seen him in my life.
06:25Simply by contact, through WhatsApp, I tell you.
06:28Good.
06:29He has never been silent, he has never deluded you.
06:31I think if he risks going to Mirta,
06:33Mirta, at one point, mocked him and said,
06:35I called you once, no, twice, says Roberto,
06:37as if marking the insistence of the driver.
06:39If you go there, you go for something.
06:41I say, or you are going to win a title,
06:43or with the experience of Pampita,
06:45who took the dollars and did not throw a title to Susana,
06:47you know that Mirta charges you.
06:49Mirta does not pay, Mirta charges you.
06:51How does Moritán get here?
06:53How does Moritán get here?
06:55To the media, to the tables, how does he get here?
06:57He said he would have no problem going to any show,
06:59neither Susana's nor Mirta's.
07:00But how does he get to the tables?
07:01By being an official, or does he always come
07:03because he is linked to the Marxist model of the country?
07:05In this case, that's why.
07:07No, before that too.
07:09No, no, before having a link with Pampita,
07:11he was one more opinioner on economic issues.
07:14Yes, but like that.
07:16Lucio, Lucio, so small.
07:18Of course he did not have the media repercussion,
07:21and to have media repercussion,
07:23he appealed to recipes.
07:25People voted for Pampita's husband.
07:27No, we were not kidding.
07:30And another thing that we have to apologize for,
07:33the dollar at 400 pesos, we said,
07:35what a barbarity, Roberto, today a dollar at 400.
07:38There is one more moment,
07:41there were several moments,
07:43throughout this scene,
07:45in which I would not have liked to be companion,
07:47comensal.
07:48Have you swallowed?
07:49Yes, I would have eaten the whole plate,
07:51so as not to speak.
07:53Eduardo Blanco did that.
07:55He ate quietly, quietly.
07:58Then Franco shook him a little.
08:00Yes, they crossed, they crossed a lot,
08:03for the issue of the retirees.
08:04But we are going to listen to a fragment,
08:06which is that moment when he says,
08:09Moritana, Mirta,
08:10Mirta, I think you're doing me wrong.
08:14Tell me, tell me,
08:16you're on TV, you're not going to tell.
08:18I don't know, it depends on what you ask me.
08:20You went to Santa,
08:21Santa Bárbara is the name of the country?
08:23Yes.
08:24Yes, Santa Bárbara neighborhood.
08:26And you were there, I don't know if an afternoon,
08:29a day or 24 hours, I don't know.
08:31And then Carolina arrived,
08:33and when she saw how they had left the house,
08:36she began to cry, is it true?
08:38No, it's a lie.
08:39She threw herself to the ground,
08:40to the ground and began to cry.
08:41Is it a lie?
08:42If you attribute that to something with me,
08:45I already tell you that it is a lie.
08:46If some of the teenagers did it.
08:48They told it as something true.
08:50Well, if that event existed,
08:53if it came to exist,
08:54I had absolutely nothing to do with it.
08:57Absolutely nothing to do with it.
08:59If you are trying to install the idea
09:02that I have strange behaviors,
09:04I do masochism.
09:05No, but you make yourself good here,
09:07you make yourself too beautiful.
09:08No, not at all.
09:09You didn't do anything,
09:10you provoked a scary scandal.
09:12Because, but, no,
09:14I think it's being very unfair.
09:16The country is going through difficult times
09:18and that the whole country was turned upside down.
09:20For shit.
09:21Me too, they also push me.
09:22I think it's being very unfair.
09:24And I'm even going to tell you one thing.
09:26I think you're treating me badly.
09:28Are you sorry to have come?
09:30And I think you're treating me badly.
09:32Because I came very ...
09:33But I have to ask you, Roberto.
09:35Yes, I know, but there is a tone,
09:36there is a tone and a search that I do not like,
09:39it does not identify me.
09:40I'm not going to be the good one with you.
09:42No, and me neither.
09:44I'm going to ask you everything I want to ask.
09:46Yes, definitely,
09:47and I'm going to answer you everything I want to answer.
09:48You are doing it.
09:49Yes, yes.
09:50I think there is a very hostile tone
09:52and I'm going to ask you, please,
09:53to lower it a little.
09:54Because I came here for you,
09:56for the kindness that you have imitated me directly.
09:59But I have to ask.
10:00No, no, it's okay.
10:01But there are many things to ask.
10:02Everyone wants to have you.
10:03If I have you at the table,
10:04I'm a fool, a stupid,
10:05I don't respect my work.
10:06Don't worry, they won't treat you badly.
10:08Well, now eat quietly,
10:09now I'll let you rest.
10:10Eat quietly.
10:12Lower the tone, he said.
10:14You know I'm going to turn around.
10:15No, what are you going to do?
10:16No, no, no.
10:17Being the ...
10:19I convinced you.
10:20What's wrong with you?
10:22You can see that I was eating something.
10:24You are going to change your mind.
10:25I lowered my head.
10:26You are going to change your mind.
10:27I got distracted with students.
10:28Please, I didn't get distracted.
10:29Please, come.
10:31You can't say that to Mirta.
10:33You can't handle her
10:34or try to handle the tone of the show to Mirta.
10:36In any case, get up and leave the table.
10:40Lower the tone a little.
10:41I come back to this point
10:42because I don't think I have certified impunity
10:44that Mirta, lucid as she is.
10:46Super.
10:47I have to think what country we are going to leave Mirta.
10:49Really, as Rothenberg said,
10:50have a certificate of impunity.
10:52Now, in a moment,
10:53Mirta lowers her tone and says,
10:55understand me,
10:56I'm running a show.
10:57People want to know about you.
10:59I have to report you.
11:00She's looking for a rating, Mirta, too.
11:01It was recurrent, it was recurrent.
11:02She's looking for a rating.
11:03The rating was good, it was good.
11:04She got peaks above 6 points,
11:05average of more than 5 points
11:07for a day prior to Christmas.
11:08A good interviewer,
11:09like Mirta,
11:11wants the guest to answer
11:13what she is asking him
11:14and not that he gives it to her.
11:16This means that we never sit
11:17at Mirta's table again.
11:19Once you were at Mirta's table,
11:21you drank something I said in the cut
11:22and you asked me in the air.
11:24Good.
11:25That's number one, Mirta.
11:27No doubt about it.
11:28Three times,
11:29and I had a great time three times
11:30and gave me the freedom to speak.
11:32Did you eat well?
11:33I ate well
11:34and gave me the freedom to speak
11:35that the prejudice that is often had
11:36from the other side is,
11:37Mirta, either she interrupts you
11:38or she directs you.
11:39No.
11:40No, she lets you speak.
11:41Luis.
11:42The million dollar question.
11:43Luis.
11:44Yes.
11:45Mirta,
11:46look at the commitment I put to you.
11:47Yes.
11:48One can infer from this interview
11:49and interviewer lunch,
11:50does Mirta have a taken position
11:51according to this story?
11:52Yes.
11:53Yes, Carolina.
11:54I'll tell you something.
11:55Mirta fell much more than she said
11:56and I'm convinced that Mirta
11:57previously spoke with Carolina Pampita-Rodain
11:58and had more information.
11:59It is also very difficult to dialogue
12:00or have an exchange with a person
12:01who already has a very taken position.
12:02Well, yes.
12:03I think she has a very taken position.
12:04Well, yes.
12:05I think she has a very taken position.
12:06Well, yes.
12:07I think she has a very taken position.
12:08Well, yes.
12:09I think she has a very taken position.
12:10Well, yes.
12:11I think she has a very taken position.
12:12Well, yes.
12:13I think she has a very taken position.
12:14Well, yes.
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