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00:00Yes, today's guest is Master Koyuza from the Sanyu-tei.
00:05Both of you speak Rakugo.
00:07Do you hang out with each other?
00:08No, no, we don't.
00:09Is that it?
00:10I love it.
00:11We're in the same Rakugo club.
00:15We have no choice but to hang out.
00:16We have no choice but to hang out.
00:18I have a famous saying.
00:21All the actors and actresses started to speak Rakugo.
00:25Everyone around me understood that Rakugo is easy.
00:30What is Rakugo?
00:31Rakugo is easy.
00:32I was exposed.
00:34It's not that hard to learn Rakugo.
00:39I forgot.
00:41When I went to a boy's school,
00:43I told them I would teach them.
00:44It was when Walkman was just released.
00:46I told them I would teach them.
00:48You can learn it with this.
00:49Even monkeys can learn it.
00:52I thought they would ask me if I was a cat.
00:56I told them I wasn't a cat.
00:58I borrowed a radio from my friend.
01:02I put the radio on my bed.
01:05I sat on it and listened to it.
01:08When it was the second time, I was angry.
01:11When it was the third time, I was a cat.
01:14I thought they were talking about this.
01:17It was a three-time practice.
01:20My master did it once a day.
01:23I told him I wouldn't be there tomorrow.
01:27He did it three times.
01:30He told me to do it for the fourth time.
01:33I couldn't do it.
01:36It wasn't that easy.
01:38Your master was a Yuza master.
01:41He was a disciple of Yuza master.
01:45Was he strict?
01:47No, he wasn't.
01:49He was a kind master.
01:52He made me talk.
01:55Did you have other disciples?
01:57I had a brother.
02:00I couldn't do it for the fourth time.
02:04When I smiled, he said,
02:06I don't remember.
02:08I'll do it again.
02:10He did it because he was my disciple.
02:12It's not easy to be a disciple.
02:15I did it for the fourth time.
02:18I had to do it for the fifth time.
02:21I did it in a hurry.
02:24He fixed it for me.
02:26He told me to do it differently.
02:29He told me not to put my hand there.
02:32I see.
02:34He told you to do it again.
02:37I did it again.
02:40He told me to do it in front of the audience.
02:44You didn't have enough money.
02:46I had to talk to him.
02:48I didn't have a real performance.
02:50You didn't go up to the stage
02:52because you thought you did it perfectly.
02:55I had to get permission from my master.
02:58You had to get permission.
03:00He told me to do it in front of the audience.
03:05I did it with the intention of practicing.
03:08I couldn't finish it.
03:10Everyone was satisfied with it.
03:15How many shops were there?
03:18There were three Enraku shops.
03:21The first one was Banshi.
03:23He was familiar with the shops.
03:25Koyuza-san told us about the behind-the-scenes stories of the shops.
03:30I couldn't match the pitch.
03:33It was the day I bought a fluorescent lamp.
03:36There was also a show.
03:39The fluorescent lamp was the first time it came to our shop.
03:43It was a shocking episode.
03:45I paused for two seconds.
03:47When I stood up,
03:49I saw a dark picture.
03:51I was happy.
03:53Enshou, Shouzou, Gunraku, Kosan, Basho.
03:59The top three were the Banshi, Enraku and Shincho.
04:04Enraku's fans loved the story.
04:08Don't close the door.
04:10The cat is sleeping.
04:12Koyuza-san told us a lot of stories.
04:16Don't be that kind of person.
04:22Tsurube-chan and Sawako-chan.
04:24The great seniors of the Showa era and the strange two.
04:29When I went to listen to Enraku,
04:32no matter how worried I was,
04:34in front of the audience,
04:36I was like,
04:38I've never seen anyone say,
04:40I can't do it anymore.
04:42I guess everyone was doing it in their own way.
04:46I don't think so.
04:48People like Tsurube-san are very humble.
04:52There aren't that many.
04:54He's the kind of person who can speak Rakugo.
04:58When I listen to Koyuza,
05:00I get envious of him.
05:02What do you mean?
05:04On the contrary,
05:06I don't know if it's a compliment or not,
05:08but he's just like that.
05:10He comes out like this,
05:12and comes back like this.
05:14I'm like, what is this guy?
05:16He doesn't have any power.
05:18He doesn't have any power.
05:20I'm like, I'll do it properly.
05:22Even if he has power,
05:24it's only this much.
05:26That's right.
05:28Koyuza-san, you don't have any power?
05:30I do my best.
05:32Everyone says that.
05:34I don't have any power.
05:36While I'm doing it,
05:38I can't stand it for 15 minutes.
05:40What should I do?
05:42Have you ever thought it was fun?
05:44It looks really fun.
05:46It's not fun now.
05:48Why?
05:50I don't know.
05:52Is there a time limit?
05:54I think it's been too long
05:56since I've been doing Rakugo.
05:58You haven't thought about quitting,
06:00have you?
06:02I want to quit,
06:04but I'm thinking about it now.
06:06If you quit,
06:08the church will be in trouble.
06:10Did you first meet Rakugo
06:12when you were little?
06:14That's right.
06:16It was a time when there was no TV.
06:20Koyuza-san's seduction of an angel
06:22was a hit.
06:24It was the first snack in Japan.
06:26It was the 43rd year of Showa
06:28when Carl was released.
06:34Koyuza-san, the youngest of four brothers.
06:36When he was in elementary school,
06:38he met Rakugo on the radio.
06:44He was from Yamanashi.
06:46We were a family.
06:48Your father didn't talk much?
06:50No, he didn't.
06:52He never laughed.
06:54He never laughed at home?
06:56He never laughed in front of his children?
06:58No.
07:00There was no conversation in the family.
07:02Did your mother talk to you?
07:04My mother talks to my children,
07:06but I've never heard
07:08of a couple's conversation.
07:10I've never heard of a couple's conversation.
07:12How can four people have children?
07:14That's right.
07:16It must have been dark.
07:20A couple's conversation
07:22is decided every day.
07:24The brothers are far apart.
07:26They don't come home for dinner.
07:28They go to work.
07:30I went to work when I was in 5th grade.
07:32My father decided after dinner.
07:34Your education is bad,
07:36so watch it.
07:38A good young girl
07:40won't come home.
07:42Your education is bad,
07:44so watch it.
07:46A good young girl
07:48won't come home
07:50and pay her tuition.
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09:08Weird, but it's lively.
09:12We had a writing lesson on Saturday.
09:14So everyone come home early.
09:16So we bring home this guy.
09:18You are still bright
09:20until it gets dark.
09:22You are still bright until it gets dark.
09:24You are still bright until it gets dark.
09:26You are still bright until it gets dark.
09:28You, idiot.
09:30You made a drawing
09:34twice at half-stop time.
09:36and you're like, oh!
09:38You're so happy.
09:40No.
09:40At that time.
09:41So the age of overflowing things is not happiness.
09:44We're on TV.
09:45It's like when the TV finally comes.
09:49They bring used stuff from the city.
09:53The old man over there,
09:55I don't know what he did,
09:57but he brought cheap stuff.
10:00He's a thief, isn't he?
10:02He brought cheap, used stuff.
10:05He brought it and covered it with a blanket.
10:09It's not a blanket.
10:10It's a blanket.
10:11It's a cover.
10:13There's no background music.
10:15It's like covering it with a piano.
10:16Yes, it's like covering it with a TV.
10:19It's over.
10:20Yes.
10:20I thought there was someone in this thick blanket,
10:25so I turned around.
10:28So it was a happy age.
10:30Yes.
10:31But I didn't have any allies.
10:33What about the joy of the brightness?
10:34The joy of the brightness?
10:35Most of the time,
10:3860-year-old father, 50-year-old mother,
10:41and 10-year-old me,
10:42we ate together.
10:45So,
10:45last year, my mother told me to eat quietly at school.
10:50In the old days,
10:52I was in charge.
10:54I laughed so hard that my stomach hurt.
10:56My father laughed so hard that he said it himself.
11:01He was a cheerful father.
11:02He said it himself.
11:05It wasn't that funny, but he said it himself.
11:08If my father saw that kind of family,
11:10he would say,
11:11Don't be that kind of person.
11:15My father was cheerful.
11:17He laughed so hard that
11:19he was carried by an ambulance.
11:22He said it himself.
11:23Ouch, ouch, ouch.
11:25The ambulance said,
11:26Does your stomach really hurt?
11:27Yes, the ambulance said,
11:29Is there such a person?
11:31He said it himself.
11:32It was like a joke.
11:33He said it himself.
11:34He laughed at his own words.
11:37He was a strange person.
11:38But he was a cheerful person.
11:40But if he wasn't that kind of person,
11:42he couldn't have been that kind of person.
11:44He couldn't have been that kind of person.
11:44We are normal.
11:45I am normal.
11:46You are not normal.
11:47You are not normal.
11:48You are not normal.
11:50When I was in kindergarten,
11:52we ate together as a family.
11:54Today, in kindergarten,
11:56my father was there, my mother was there,
11:58and my brother was there.
11:58Today, in kindergarten,
12:00Kei-chan came.
12:02At that time, the teacher said,
12:04Do something.
12:05Ikko-chan was also there.
12:07Kei-chan was talking cheerfully.
12:09My father was sitting like this.
12:13I don't know what you want to say.
12:15Say it from the conclusion, from the conclusion.
12:17I was wondering what the conclusion was.
12:20Then he cried and said,
12:22Don't cry.
12:23Give me a meal.
12:24I was scared.
12:27It's very theoretical.
12:31That's right.
12:32I remembered the word conclusion at that moment.
12:35In any household,
12:37the dark family was in a mess.
12:40Where did you meet Rakugo in the dark family?
12:43It was winter when I was in the fifth grade.
12:47My father was like this.
12:51I think it's similar because they are parents and children.
12:55Like this.
12:56I was doing my homework.
12:58I looked at it.
13:00I thought I might have laughed now.
13:03I was observing for a while.
13:06I laughed.
13:10I thought I was deaf.
13:13I was deaf at the age of 60.
13:17I wondered what to do with this.
13:20I read it all at once.
13:23I was doing Rakugo on the radio.
13:27I wondered if my mother would laugh if she heard Rakugo.
13:31I had nothing to do after that.
13:33I was doing Rakugo on the radio at that time.
13:36I was doing Rakugo on the radio at that time.
13:39I could play Rakugo anywhere.
13:43Then I started listening to Rakugo.
13:45Now I can talk to my father.
13:53Now I can talk to my father.
13:56You can talk to your father.
14:00I think that's the first time.
14:02Did you also think Rakugo was interesting?
14:06My father laughed.
14:08I was interested in Rakugo and started listening to it.
14:13I had a classmate who could play Rakugo.
14:16He was a good person.
14:22I went to his friend's house.
14:26I told him I was going to play Rakugo.
14:29He was a smart boy.
14:31He was popular with Miyashi Michiya, Kasuga Hachiro, and Miura Koichi.
14:35He was popular with Hirao Masaaki, Mickey Kawashita, Yamashita Keiichiro, and Roka Billy.
14:42He was popular with Yu-chan.
14:45But he said that Shintaro was smarter than Yu-chan.
14:49He said that.
14:52He said that Shintaro was smarter than Yujiro.
14:57He said that Yu-chan was the best.
15:00He didn't have any friends.
15:03I told him I was going to play Rakugo.
15:07He came to me and said,
15:10What? You like Rakugo? Then come to my house to play Rakugo.
15:14I told him that.
15:16I think all boys are like their mothers.
15:21I'm sure of it.
15:22If the mother is stupid, the son is stupid.
15:26I'm sure of it.
15:29The mother is different.
15:32She is like Yoshiko Kuga.
15:34She is a seamstress.
15:37I told my friend to wait a minute.
15:40I'll give you some sweets later.
15:43He was impressed and said he wanted to eat chocolate.
15:45What are you talking about?
15:47I'm sure of it.
15:49He said, Mom, I want to eat a banana.
15:52If you eat a banana, you'll have a backache.
15:56Banana equals backache.
16:00It's a good way to cheat.
16:02I don't want to have a backache.
16:04When the mother is thirsty, she says, Tsuba-no-doki.
16:08Tsuba-no-doki is a famous saying.
16:13It's funny.
16:15It's a good way to cheat.
16:17I asked him how he learned Rakugo.
16:21He said he learned it quickly.
16:24He watched the radio program.
16:26He listened to the radio.
16:28He went out to the dogunya.
16:30He said he was going to the dogunya today.
16:32At that time, all the Rakugo performed on the radio were the same.
16:37The people who performed were different, but the topics were the same.
16:40He was doing the dogunya.
16:44I told him to write down whatever he wanted.
16:51He said it was okay.
16:53He told him to write down what he understood.
16:56If someone else did the dogunya, he would supplement it.
17:00He was doing such a thing.
17:02I secretly learned one move.
17:06You did?
17:08What did you learn?
17:10I think it was Hirabayashi.
17:12I think the first thing I did was Hirabayashi.
17:16At the birthday party.
17:18Did you announce it?
17:20Everyone was happy with Hirabayashi.
17:22The teacher said,
17:24You're great. You did it right.
17:26I'm going to study a little more with that intention.
17:31I thought I could do it.
17:33Seika runner is famous.
17:37This is a precious photo of Mr. Koyuza, who was a Seika runner at the Tokyo Olympics 60 years ago.
17:46There was a school outbreak.
17:48The school was closed.
17:50No classes.
17:52What's going to happen to us?
17:54Everyone was upset.
17:56I met Rakugo in the fifth grade of elementary school.
18:00Mr. Koyuza, who was from Yamanashi Prefecture,
18:04became a hero in class.
18:08Did you already have a dream of being a Rakugo player?
18:13No, I graduated from elementary school.
18:15After I went to junior high school,
18:17I joined the table tennis club.
18:19Were you good at running?
18:21No, no.
18:24I wasn't very good at running.
18:27Seika runner is famous.
18:31There were two Seika runners the other day, right?
18:35The first Tokyo Olympics in 1964.
18:39High school student?
18:41I was in the third year of high school.
18:43I think most of the Seika runners in Japan were in their third year of high school.
18:5190%.
18:54I was the captain of the sports club.
18:57That was the condition.
18:59You were the captain?
19:01Yes, I was the captain of the table tennis club.
19:03I was the captain of the sports club.
19:05I was well-off, well-educated,
19:07and I had a good face.
19:09Don't make it up.
19:11I was good at running.
19:14You had a good face.
19:16Your parents must have been happy.
19:18They must have thought you were a Seika runner.
19:20They didn't even come to see me.
19:23My mother was worried about me, so I couldn't help it.
19:27Your father?
19:29My father was like this at home.
19:31He wouldn't come out.
19:33What did he say?
19:35He said, I'm a Seika runner.
19:37He said, I'm a Seika runner.
19:39I was invited to the Olympics.
19:41I was invited to the Olympics.
19:43You were invited to the Olympics.
19:45At that time, you couldn't go to the National Stadium.
19:49I was hungry.
19:51What did you eat?
19:53I don't remember.
19:55You don't remember what you saw?
19:57I don't remember.
19:59I remember it was raining.
20:01I was pretty hungry.
20:03You were hungry.
20:05Yes, I was hungry.
20:07But if you think about it,
20:09you were more of a sportsman.
20:11Yes, I was.
20:13I was good at table tennis,
20:15of course.
20:17I was good at table tennis, of course.
20:20This is a picture of you playing table tennis.
20:22This is when I was in junior high school.
20:24The table tennis in Japan today is amazing.
20:26Yes, it is.
20:28Did you play table tennis in college?
20:30I was in the 2nd division.
20:32I was in the 2nd division.
20:34You went to Meiji University.
20:36You didn't go to Ochi Prefecture, did you?
20:38I didn't go to Ochi Prefecture.
20:40When I was in the 3rd year of college,
20:42there was a school strike.
20:44The school was closed.
20:46I couldn't practice.
20:49I couldn't go to school.
20:51You couldn't go to class.
20:53I couldn't go to class.
20:55I was wondering what would happen to us.
20:57Everyone was upset.
20:59You didn't go to the student movement?
21:01I went to hear the speech.
21:03I didn't know what they were saying.
21:05I didn't know what they were saying.
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24:34He's totally crazy.
24:36Where did that old man go?
24:38Where did that old man go?
24:40He was 70.
24:42He was getting really weak.
24:44What about your mother?
24:46My mother also fell asleep.
24:48She fell asleep.
24:50My brother was the one who got angry.
24:52What is this?
24:54What is this?
24:56What was your brother's job?
24:58He worked at a street market.
25:00He was working at a street market.
25:02I think he wanted to start a factory or something.
25:06I haven't heard it properly.
25:08Maybe.
25:09Because there are two men.
25:11They cooperated with each other.
25:13He gave me my tuition fee.
25:16Your brother?
25:17Yes.
25:18He was kind to you.
25:19And then he passed away.
25:22I thought, what the hell is he thinking?
25:25Did you go to say hello?
25:27No, on the phone.
25:28On the phone?
25:29On the phone.
25:30Did you know where he was?
25:31Yes, I knew it was him.
25:33He came to my apartment.
25:35He came to your apartment?
25:36He said, I'll be a lawyer.
25:38You're so brave.
25:39If you can do it, you should try it, you idiot.
25:42Don't come to my house again.
25:45I'm prepared for that.
25:47Sorry, but can you send me a bunch of futons?
25:49Shut up, you bastard!
25:52I'm not ready at all.
25:54I'll keep an eye on you.
25:55You're so cute at the end.
25:58You were so angry that you couldn't say, send me a bunch of futons.
26:02I was in trouble anyway.
26:04I didn't have any futons.
26:06I don't know if it was a shock or not, but my brother died in a year.
26:13Your brother died of shock?
26:16He had lung cancer.
26:18Why did he die of lung cancer?
26:21He must have been young.
26:23I think he was 33.
26:27How old were you?
26:29I was a teenager.
26:31I had just joined the army.
26:32Just joined the army?
26:33One year.
26:34So you didn't have to listen to your brother.
26:37No, I didn't.
26:38You didn't have to admit that you had become a lawyer.
26:44My sister followed me to my father-in-law's house like a guarantor.
26:49She said, I'm going to leave the house, too.
26:51I said, that's perfect.
26:53She said, I want to rent a room around Mitaka.
26:56Before that, I left the house.
26:58My brother got sick and was hospitalized.
27:01My sister didn't tell me.
27:04I thought I had no brother.
27:09But I couldn't just leave.
27:12In the end, my brother came to visit me because he was sick.
27:16When I told him, my sister-in-law came to me.
27:19I said, what's wrong?
27:21She said, this is what happened.
27:25How did you feel about your brother?
27:29I didn't know him.
27:32I didn't know him, so it was easy for me.
27:37If I had known him, I would have told him what he said.
27:41He said, my brother died, and this is what happened.
27:45After that, I said, I'm going to quit.
27:50He said, you have no sense of responsibility.
27:55If you had said that, I would have quit.
27:58I thought I had to take care of the house, so I quit.
28:02He said, you have no sense of responsibility.
28:06You have no sense of responsibility.
28:08Let's go back to the story.
28:10You were listening to a lot of rakugo.
28:13If I had known him, I would have chosen him.
28:16That's why I came to see Yuza.
28:22After this, Yuza's heart warms up with a touching story about his disciple.
28:30It's a good car.
28:39The day of the tsunami.
28:41Ito Yukari's memory of her little finger hit.
28:45Showa 42
28:47Yuza's Little Finger
28:53Yuza was a disciple of Yuza, who was 9 years older than him.
29:02At first, I had a relationship with Yuza, who was older than me.
29:06But it didn't work out.
29:08There was no reason.
29:10There was no reason.
29:12It didn't work out?
29:13Yes, it didn't work out.
29:15So I decided to look for the youngest one.
29:20The youngest one?
29:23I think he was the youngest.
29:26Yuza?
29:28He was 29 years old.
29:30He was young.
29:32A disciple is young.
29:34He used to live in Takatanobaba.
29:39He was reading books in Kinokuniya.
29:42Rakugo books.
29:44And at the end of the book,
29:46he found the address book of the current Rakugo master.
29:50That's scary.
29:52It's possible now.
29:54He had a lot of personal information.
29:58So I looked it up and went to Takatanobaba.
30:03Then my father said,
30:06Yuza has moved.
30:09So I asked him if I could give him the address.
30:15He said yes.
30:17So I asked him to give me the address.
30:19And I went there by myself.
30:22You found Yuza's address.
30:25We talked a lot.
30:27I understood him.
30:29I understood how he felt.
30:31But we couldn't eat together.
30:34Even if we could eat together,
30:37it would cost a lot of money.
30:40If we couldn't survive financially,
30:44I wanted to work as a guarantor.
30:48I didn't care who it was.
30:50I wanted to talk to people.
30:53I didn't care who it was.
30:55I wanted to talk to people.
30:57But you weren't there.
30:59You came out of the house.
31:02You couldn't ask your family.
31:04Even my relatives thought I was stupid.
31:07I couldn't talk to them.
31:09I thought I was weak.
31:11Then my sister said,
31:13I'll go talk to him.
31:15It was interesting.
31:17The three of us talked.
31:21My father-in-law said,
31:23Can you leave your seat?
31:25To Yuza?
31:27He told you not to leave your seat?
31:29Yes.
31:31I wanted to talk to my sister.
31:34I was 29 and 33 years old.
31:39Your sister was older than you.
31:42I'm a young man now.
31:45I see.
31:47I asked my sister,
31:50What did you say?
31:53I said,
31:55You don't want your brother to work elsewhere, do you?
31:58I said,
32:00I want him to work at Otsuki City Hall.
32:02Of course.
32:04If he goes out and becomes a comedian,
32:06he won't get along with otakus.
32:08He's a smart guy.
32:10He won't stop even if I stop him now.
32:12He said,
32:14I'll go to school in one year.
32:16I didn't want him to quit school.
32:18I said,
32:20Let's go to Ryotenbin.
32:22If the heat of Rakugo cools down,
32:24he won't come home.
32:26He said,
32:28I don't want to bother you.
32:30I said,
32:32I don't mind.
32:34He called me.
32:36He said,
32:38If you don't study Shinmonoroi for a year,
32:40you won't be able to work at Rakugo.
32:42So,
32:44don't quit school.
32:46Instead,
32:48I'll let you come and go as you like.
32:50Whenever you want?
32:52Whenever you want.
32:54If you quit school,
32:56I'll let you go.
32:58You're 29 years old.
33:00Yes, I am.
33:02You're a great person.
33:04Instead,
33:06I said,
33:08I'll let you go after you graduate.
33:10You have to study.
33:12As I promised,
33:14I said,
33:16You're a big guy.
33:18He said,
33:20You're funny.
33:22He said,
33:24You're useless.
33:26I thought,
33:28it's his fault.
33:30Do you know by his face?
33:32I don't know.
33:34I don't know.
33:36He was trying to kill himself.
33:38He was 29 years old.
33:40Did he say,
33:42I'll let you go after you graduate?
33:44You don't need to ask me.
33:46How can I choose a person
33:48who will become a Rakugo player?
33:50He said,
33:52I'm glad I didn't have to go.
33:58I'm glad I didn't have to go.
34:00Who did he say?
34:02He said,
34:04You don't need to ask me.
34:06I have a disciple.
34:08I have a disciple.
34:10It depends on the teacher.
34:12That's right.
34:14Right.
34:16It depends on the teacher.
34:18I was aware of that.
34:20I thought you were useless
34:22if you didn't come to me.
34:24You have a good chemistry with him.
34:26He's a wonderful Rakugo player.
34:28But when you came as a disciple,
34:30you couldn't get along with him.
34:32You couldn't get along with him.
34:34I thought he was a kind-looking person.
34:36I thought he was a kind-looking person.
34:38I thought he was a kind-looking person.
34:40I thought he was a kind-looking person.
34:42You were a good listener.
34:44He was a kind-looking person.
34:46and interesting engineer.
34:48He looks healthy.
34:50He looks healthy.
34:52What about your copy of The Book of Humans?
34:54What about your copy of The Book of Humans?
34:56I was looking into it.
34:58I was looking into it.
35:00And I was like,
35:02all right.
35:04The only one I could go with was Yonesuke.
35:06Was Yonesuke also a raised by the same teacher?
35:08They shared a deep bond.
35:10They shared a deep bond.
35:12And when I went there, all the numbers were better than mine.
35:19Better than yours?
35:20How much better?
35:22It was a long time ago.
35:24I was like, what is this?
35:27And they said, if you go with these numbers, you'll die before me.
35:35And I was like, I'm your general manager.
35:40And they asked me, are you going to do it?
35:42I said, yes.
35:43And they said, the general manager is a representative of a friend.
35:47You and I are not friends.
35:50We are parents and children.
35:52And I was like, I'm sorry.
35:57I'm still fine.
36:00You are 80 years old.
36:02I was born in 1933.
36:04I was born early in 1933.
36:06You are 86 years old.
36:09Did you meet your wife after she became a rakugo player?
36:14Yes.
36:15After she became a rakugo player.
36:17When she was still a zenza player.
36:19When she was still a zenza player.
36:22After this, we will talk about the fateful meeting with his wife,
36:26and the current state of the couple.
36:31Chapter 1
36:35The house price rose sharply due to the oil shock.
36:39The dangerous couple of Kenji Sawada became a hit.
36:42It was the year 1948.
36:49Kenji Sawada marries his wife, who had a fateful encounter in the zenza era.
36:56Did you want to marry her while you were training?
37:01Yes.
37:02I thought I would be with her if I dated her for a while.
37:07He didn't think so.
37:10But most people think so.
37:12Most people think so.
37:14Men say that, but women choose.
37:19Where did you meet her?
37:21There is a place called Shin-uchi Hiro.
37:25It's a hiro party.
37:27A hiro party.
37:29She worked there.
37:31She was a member of the board of directors.
37:33Yonezuke and I were in the zenza.
37:37The mayor came out to attend the party.
37:41He gave me an overcoat.
37:43He said, please take care of my wife.
37:46Was she in charge of the locker room?
37:50If I took care of her, I would be free.
37:55Yonezuke said, which one do you like?
38:00I said, which one do you like?
38:02Many people came out.
38:04How many?
38:05Many people.
38:06He said, I think it's okay to be quiet.
38:10I said, that's ridiculous.
38:12Was it ideal to be quiet?
38:14Yes, it was better to be quiet.
38:17Yonezuke said, which one do you like?
38:20Yes, Yonezuke said that.
38:22Was Yonezuke single?
38:24Yes, Yonezuke was single.
38:26I said, if you like that, I'll talk to her.
38:30I just said, I like that.
38:33He was a bit clumsy.
38:35He was very active.
38:37After the party, he said, I like this one.
38:40I said, I like this one.
38:43He said, when is the next party?
38:45I said, I'll go to Suzumoto.
38:48I said, next Tuesday.
38:50I set the name of the cafe.
38:53What?
38:54I set the time.
38:56I said, you'll be fine here.
38:58I'll be done at noon.
39:00You'll be fine.
39:02I said, I'll go to Suzumoto.
39:04That's too much.
39:06I thought she would come.
39:09At the cafe?
39:11She took a bus home.
39:14She found a good cafe in front of the bus stop.
39:19So she came.
39:21She came?
39:22Yes, she came.
39:23Then she would be happy.
39:25That's right.
39:26That's how we started dating.
39:28What did she think?
39:30She said, he's a good man.
39:33She knew that there were Rakugo in the world.
39:38She was interested in what kind of creature it was.
39:43So she never heard of Rakugo?
39:45No, no.
39:46I think she was fooled.
39:49But Yonezuke's brother was amazing.
39:53Yonezuke's power was amazing.
39:55Thanks to Yonezuke, he met someone who could take care of his life.
40:01He was a man of few words.
40:04In the beginning.
40:06That's what we think.
40:09But it's getting worse.
40:11I think it's good to have a little patience.
40:16Did you have a little patience?
40:18Don't look so sad.
40:21It was a fleeting dream.
40:25It was a dream.
40:27Really.
40:28It was a dream.
40:31How do you feel now?
40:33It's a perfect reversal now.
40:36Reversal?
40:37From small things to everything.
40:39I'm going to start from now on without touching it.
40:43Even such small things.
40:45I just wiped it off without touching it.
40:49What do you think it is?
40:51She told me to come a little.
40:53I said, come a little.
40:54I'll turn on the light.
40:56She said, don't look at me.
40:59I understand.
41:01She said, the door is open.
41:04I said, don't say that.
41:06She said, don't close the door.
41:08I said, don't close the door.
41:10The cat is sleeping.
41:13I said, what is it?
41:16How old was the shop?
41:20It was built in 1983.
41:23It was built in 1983.
41:25It was built in 1958.
41:28It was opened by Tokyo Disneyland.
41:31It was a hit with the Umeda brothers of Warabe.
41:35It was in 1958.
41:44It was a popular national program.
41:46It was a hit with the new members of the shop.
41:49It was a hit with the new members of the shop.
41:53Who was the first host?
41:56The senior host of Sendai.
41:58He was the senior host.
42:01The program had been going for 14 years.
42:04There were only the senior hosts.
42:06There were only the senior hosts.
42:08It was a hit with Utamaro Koienyu.
42:15They had just become familiar.
42:17They had just become familiar.
42:19They had just become familiar.
42:23The pitch didn't match at all.
42:26I kept saying something, but it didn't work.
42:30What did you think when you first heard about it?
42:33I thought it was a prank camera.
42:36Because the old producers were so rough.
42:39They told me to come to the theater.
42:43I said, I'm counting on you.
42:47What was it?
42:48I said, I'm counting on you.
42:51One seat.
42:52I said, I'm counting on you.
42:55What?
42:56You don't like it?
42:58I said, I'm counting on you.
43:01It's amazing.
43:02It's very stable.
43:04In terms of money.
43:05In terms of money?
43:06You can see your face on TV?
43:08Yes.
43:09Was there a lot of merit in that?
43:11Thanks to the show, I was invited to the Raccoon World.
43:15It's all over the country.
43:18It's all over Japan.
43:22It's all over the country.
43:23It's a great audience.
43:25But I feel more pressure.
43:27I have to get paid.
43:30The people around me are used to it, so I'll let them pay me.
43:33Was there only one newcomer?
43:36Yes.
43:37What else?
43:39Utamaru.
43:40Utamaru.
43:41Konpei.
43:42Konpei.
43:43Kikuzo.
43:44Kikuo.
43:45Kikuo.
43:46Kikuzo.
43:47Kikuo.
43:48There are three people there.
43:51So you joined as a transfer student.
43:54Yes, I was a transfer student.
43:55You were a transfer student.
43:57Did you have a hard time?
43:59No, it wasn't hard.
44:01It was harder for Usagi Tomimi.
44:06It wasn't hard at all.
44:09In the show,
44:11it's not about the family,
44:13but it's about the roles.
44:15This person is just cheerful.
44:18He's the type of person who talks a lot.
44:21He has a strong personality.
44:24Yes, he has a strong personality.
44:27So I had no choice but to play this character.
44:30What kind of character should I play?
44:32I don't know what to do.
44:35As I played this character,
44:38I became Alandron.
44:44Did you find Alandron yourself?
44:48Yes, I found Alandron.
44:51Did you find him?
44:53Yes, I found him.
44:54By chance, I found Inainai Bar
44:57and Inainai Alandron.
45:00I thought it would be nice if I could find him like this.
45:03I thought, why did I have to do this?
45:06Did you come up with this name?
45:08Yes, I came up with this name.
45:09Originally, it was Inainai Alandron.
45:12It's light.
45:14I was so jealous.
45:16No, no, no.
45:18I'm bad at footwork.
45:20I'm not smart.
45:23What I'm afraid of now is cognitive disorder.
45:26I'm afraid of it.
45:28I'm really afraid of cognitive disorder.
45:31I'm really afraid of it.
45:34I'm really afraid of it.
45:37Everyone in the world will be like that.
45:40It's okay.
45:42It's okay.
45:45It's not that I've been around all the way,
45:48but since I have a serif that's similar to you,
45:51it's in that tone,
45:54and it's endless.
45:56Someone said that.
45:57Oh, is that so?
45:58Those with cognitive disorder
46:00don't not understand the Rakugo,
46:02but go back to the same place and repeat it again.
46:05That's roughly the case.
46:07No one can stop you.
46:09No, because I'm the one who watched and played.
46:13I was told to do the same thing again, but I couldn't.
46:17I told him to do the same thing three times,
46:20and he said,
46:23but I couldn't because it was the fourth time.
46:27He said,
46:30but I couldn't because it was the fourth time.
46:32I don't know if he understood or not.
46:34I don't know if he understood or not.
46:35That's a bad word.
46:37He said,
46:40but I couldn't because it was the fourth time.
46:43There is no age limit for Rakugo.
46:46You have to decide by yourself.
46:48I think it's better to make a guideline by yourself.
46:54Are you thinking about quitting?
46:57If I quit, I'll quit.
47:00If I quit, I'll quit.
47:03If I quit, I'll quit.
47:05I'm sorry.
47:07Are you 90 years old?
47:09I'm 78 years old.
47:11I'm 77 years old.
47:13I'm 77 years old.
47:15You're very young.
47:17I'm very grateful.
47:20I'll have this.
47:23I'll have this.
47:24I'll have this.
47:25I'll have this.
47:26I'll have this.
47:27Are you all right?
47:30Lastly, what day is today for you?
47:38That's a difficult question.
47:41It's a philosophical question.
47:44What day is today for me?
47:47I don't know until tomorrow.
47:51That's great.
47:53That's great.
47:54I don't know until tomorrow.
47:59I don't know until tomorrow.
48:01This is what the lecture is like.
48:04I was surprised.
48:06I'll use it next time.
48:08I don't know until tomorrow.
48:11That's right.
48:12It was fun.
48:13I understand why you lived like that.
48:15I understand.
48:16Thank you very much for today.
48:18Excuse me.
48:21Showa's senior, Koyuza Sanyutei's life words.
48:31Don't try to fall asleep.
48:35Koyuza Sanyutei
48:41Showa's senior, Nobuo Yana,
48:49Koyuza Sanyutei
48:56Showa's senior, Nobuo Yana
49:05Showa's senior, Nobuo Yana