"Anay walay dinun mein Federal Cabinet mein...", Hassan Ayub
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00:00Viewers, Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman, the leader of Pakistan Jama'at Ulama-e-Islam,
00:05held a press conference in a very harsh tone the other day.
00:10He said, it is a matter of far-fetched to look at any governmental proposal.
00:16If it comes to me, I will not even hold it with a tongue. Listen.
00:23We will win. We have already won.
00:27The parliament has already passed it with us.
00:30Daily, new things are not raised.
00:33Why are they bringing the unconstitutional?
00:36We want to make what has already been decided, sustainable.
00:39They are bringing new things in opposition to what has already been decided.
00:43Therefore, till now we have not accepted any government proposal.
00:47And if they give us something to amend it,
00:50at present, my opinion is that it is a matter of far-fetched to accept their proposal.
00:54I will not even hold it with a tongue.
00:57You have seen that Maulana Tahir is very angry.
01:00He is saying that the bill that you passed with us,
01:04on which you discussed,
01:06passed it from both the parliaments,
01:08and sent it to the President of Pakistan,
01:10then why are you not signing that bill?
01:13Maulana Tahir, the chairman of Pakistan Ulema Council,
01:17is also making media interactions in this regard.
01:21He is presenting his statement.
01:23He is giving some references from the past.
01:26He is praising the government of Pakistan in 2019.
01:30At that time, a law was made,
01:33with the Ministry of Education,
01:35of registration.
01:36It was very good.
01:37And all the Ulema,
01:39of different fields of thought,
01:41had signed on it.
01:43Now, they are trying to politicize it for no reason.
01:47Mufti Muneeb Uramaq,
01:49Professor Sajid Mir,
01:51Afzal Haidari,
01:53Maulana Abdul Malik,
01:55and their board,
01:57made an agreement,
01:59that the schools will be registered with the Ministry of Education.
02:03All these scholars have signed on this agreement.
02:07Since 2019,
02:09till today,
02:10till the 26th of May,
02:12there has been no objection.
02:16And as a result,
02:1818,600 schools have been registered with the Ministry of Education.
02:23We had celebrated this.
02:25We had distributed sweets.
02:27Since the establishment of Pakistan,
02:29till now,
02:30since 1835,
02:31the education of the schools was not understood.
02:34When it was associated with the Ministry of Education,
02:37we thanked Allah for this.
02:39And at that time,
02:40the government officials said,
02:42that the education of the schools
02:44has been officially recognized in Pakistan.
02:48Viewers,
02:49the argument that Maulana Jathayar Ashrafi is presenting,
02:52that 18,600 schools are registered with the Ministry of Education,
02:56when this law was made in 2019,
02:59all the people have their signatures on it.
03:02Now they are talking about it for no reason.
03:04He also mentioned,
03:06about a brothel,
03:08what reference was given in the press conference.
03:11We accept your existence.
03:15You also get used to accepting the existence of others.
03:20We will not accept the existence of others.
03:22The issue will not be solved by calling it a brothel.
03:25The issue will not be solved by calling the Madrasa a brothel.
03:28In the Madrasa,
03:29the words of Allah and the words of the Prophet are taught.
03:32And you all know for what purpose the word brothel is used.
03:36Kamran Murtaza is a senator of the JUF.
03:40He has given a very harsh answer.
03:43He said,
03:44if we are abused,
03:46then the current government does not know
03:49how the situation in the world is going.
03:53It should not happen that we also bring them to such a state.
03:58If the same treatment was given to us
04:01that was given to this one political party
04:04between 1924 and 1926,
04:07and similar actions were taken,
04:10then the government will see
04:13that the same treatment will be given to them
04:16by the government of the country of Syria.
04:22The government should definitely keep this in mind.
04:28Kamran Murtaza has written a letter
04:33and has asked the speaker
04:38to tell us
04:40that the allegations
04:43that have been raised by the President of Pakistan
04:47should be given to us
04:49so that we can talk about it.
04:51You can see this letter.
05:13Including order of addressing the said objections.
05:17He has explained everything else.
05:19So, what do you think so far?
05:22Are you listening to these statements?
05:24Is there a lot of harshness coming?
05:27Look, the thing is that there is harshness coming,
05:30but this is the area
05:32where all the senior citizens should sit together
05:35and solve this matter.
05:37I remember,
05:38I was Dr. Mukhtar,
05:40Chairman of HEC,
05:42when there was a gap,
05:44when Dr. Mukhtar was Chairman of HEC,
05:47I came to him,
05:49because one of my acquaintances
05:51had done special orama.
05:53Special orama was done in the olden days,
05:55it was not accepted at that time.
05:58So, there was no equivalence.
06:00Now, he was doing a government job,
06:02he had studied from Madinah University,
06:04and he had also done a PhD.
06:06But he was teaching at the university,
06:08but when he got a job,
06:10HEC was not recognizing special orama.
06:12So, I made a lot of requests for this,
06:14and to recognize special orama,
06:16I went to the Executive Director,
06:18it was a long journey,
06:20it took 2-4 months,
06:22but then it was recognized.
06:24So, this education of Madaris,
06:26for its recognition,
06:28whatever is the best way,
06:30everyone should join their heads,
06:32whether it is Mr. Muranath.
06:34Didn't anyone talk to you,
06:36if you have made an agreement,
06:38if you have made a discussion,
06:40if you have listened to Mr. Muranath,
06:42about the 26th Annual Treaty,
06:44he will say that we have been deceived.
06:46So, that bill, of course,
06:48there was a discussion,
06:50the bill was made,
06:52the Ministry of Law vetted it,
06:54while doing that, he went to the President of Pakistan.
06:56So, even he was jealous.
06:58They say that the objection
07:00came from the President,
07:02and the President is a part of Parliament.
07:04So, in Parliament,
07:06if not in Parliament,
07:08then the objection is from me.
07:10The agreement was made,
07:12when the matter went to the President,
07:14the President objected to it,
07:16but he is a close friend,
07:18President of Pakistan,
07:20now this matter is between two friends.
07:22Now, in this, the government's
07:24intervention is a little less,
07:26and if two friends can solve the matter
07:28among themselves, then it can be solved fairly.
07:30But in your opinion,
07:32people are expecting
07:34that this will become a big fight,
07:36and Maulana Sahib will
07:38put pressure on the government.
07:40No, the government cannot agree
07:42to upset Maulana Sahib.
07:44Maulana Sahib will be convinced.
07:46I say that the government should
07:48include him in the government.
07:50And Maulana Sahib…
07:52Why are you not giving him a good deal?
07:54He is absolutely ready to give.
07:56Which deal?
07:58Let me give you a news.
08:00There will be a settlement
08:02in the cabinet.
08:04And there will be a major shuffling.
08:06Major shuffling will take place.
08:08The pens that are present with the ministers
08:10will be changed.
08:12And I am proposing
08:14that Maulana Fazl Rehman
08:16should be included
08:18in this.
08:20Maulana Sahib,
08:22it is obvious that he will try to
08:24refuse.
08:26When the fight is over,
08:28the matter will be settled.
08:30Mr. Chaudhary,
08:32the Pakistan People's Party
08:34has also met today.
08:36They are trying to end
08:38the loss of trust.
08:40I have been saying before
08:42that the President of Pakistan
08:44is yours, the government is yours,
08:46the Chairman of the Senate is yours,
08:48the Deputy Speaker is yours.
08:50So where is the loss of trust?
08:52They meet Maulana Sahib
08:54morning, afternoon and evening.
08:56You are trying to find a storm
08:58in the cup of tea.
09:00You are trying to create a storm.
09:02Maulana Sahib,
09:04I have no expectations from them.
09:06Okay. So you think
09:08this matter...
09:10They have nothing to sell.
09:14They have nothing to sell.
09:16Okay.
09:18Who has
09:20nothing to sell? Maulana Sahib?
09:22Those who do not have
09:24the support of the people,
09:26they have nothing.
09:28You keep talking about
09:30the support of the people.
09:32They have the government.
09:34The government, Mr. Chaudhary,
09:36the two-thirds majority,
09:38the 26th amendment...
09:40I am saying that
09:42remove the rest of the members.
09:44And all the people who
09:46come and sit in the talk shows,
09:48they have more rights.
09:50Nominate them too,
09:52Mr. Chaudhary.
09:54There were no members of the
09:56People's Party.
09:58There were no members of the
10:00People's Party.
10:02The Khansami and other
10:04managers who were working here,
10:06they were nominated.
10:08That they have become MNAs.
10:10Mr. Chaudhary.
10:12They have created a scene.
10:14Mr. Chaudhary, we all wish
10:16and expect that the situation
10:18in the political arena
10:20improves.
10:22It is very important.