مدي 1 تي في : رصد لآخر تطورات الوضع في سوريا - 10/12/2024
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00:00The Syrian transitional government officially handed over the authorities' documents to the
00:12government a few hours ago, and that was after a meeting was held between the Prime Minister
00:18Mohamed Al-Jalali and the Deputy Prime Minister Mohamed Al-Bashir.
00:22Today, the three authorities resumed their work in a number of government institutions.
00:28This is a development that opens the door to the return of refugees from camps in Turkey,
00:34Lebanon and Jordan amid expectations of a difficult transitional phase.
00:40At a time when Israel continues to destroy the fortifications of the Syrian army and
00:46the Syrian people, the Syrian government has decided to take control of a large area
00:52of the Golan Heights in violation of the 1974 agreement.
00:56We are joined by Ramallah, a specialized academic researcher in Middle East affairs,
01:04Professor Nazar Nazal. Welcome.
01:08Good evening to you and to the viewers.
01:13Welcome.
01:15We are happy to welcome Dr. Mohamed Abu Al-Ainin, an academic researcher.
01:19Welcome, Dr. Abu Al-Ainin.
01:21Welcome.
01:25We will start with you, Professor Nazal.
01:29Less than an hour ago, it was confirmed that the Syrian transitional government
01:39under the leadership of the prime minister, Mohamed Al-Bashir,
01:45along with the transitional minister, Mohamed Al-Jalali,
01:49who is the head of the Syrian government under the regime, Al-Assad,
01:53sources in the Syrian political administration, confirmed that this government,
01:57Al-Bashir's government, is trying to manage the work of a transitional phase
02:01that does not exceed three months.
02:05How did you follow all these rapid developments
02:15after three days and hours of the resignation of President Bashar Al-Assad?
02:23Of course, what happened inside Syria is a big earthquake that affects the entire Middle East.
02:33The fact is that the armed groups or the opposition, let's call it the opposition in general,
02:39were able to end a rule that lasted more than 53 years.
02:47Bashar Al-Assad, as it seems, has reached the end of the loop,
02:53to the fact that he is not at all able to confront these groups.
02:59It seems to me, of course, and it does not seem to me only to everyone,
03:03that it is supported by regional forces in the region,
03:07and this is a big Israeli, American and Western project.
03:11If we go back to several days, there was a speech to the Israeli Prime Minister,
03:19Benjamin Netanyahu, and Al-Assad warned him and told him not to play with fire.
03:25Two or three days ago, one of the Israeli officials was visiting Turkey.
03:33There was also a link to this issue.
03:37I think Israel benefited the most from what was happening inside Syria.
03:43Let's go back to this side.
03:45How do you react to what is happening, from the rapid events inside Syria?
03:51Do you think this is a positive sign, or is there something to worry about?
04:01Of course, there is a lot of concern,
04:05because these armed groups are linked to regional countries,
04:09and they are evident in their ideology.
04:11If a regime is overthrown, I do not think it is able to create a state.
04:17The fight between these groups is inevitable.
04:21The Syrian issue is not a Syrian issue.
04:29There are regional projects inside Syria,
04:35and there is a lot of concern about handing over power and foreign agendas.
04:41Things are not that simple.
04:45We noticed that there were retaliation operations,
04:47especially in Damascus.
04:49Yesterday, a lot of Syrian army officers were killed or assassinated.
04:57I think these groups are linked,
05:01and I do not think they are able to,
05:05at a time when victory and the collapse of Bashar Al-Assad's regime are still unknown,
05:14I will continue this idea with Dr. Mohammad Abu Al-Ainain.
05:22These armed opposition groups are united on one goal,
05:30which is to overthrow Al-Assad's regime.
05:35The goal has been achieved.
05:37Will it be easy to remain united and to establish a transitional phase
05:49that will lead Syria towards stability and development,
05:53as the Syrian people hope and deserve?
05:57What are the issues that we should pay attention to?
06:03Yesterday, there was a sign of the hasty appointment of Mohammad Al-Bashir
06:09as the president of this transitional government.
06:14Today, Al-Julani says that anyone who causes the torture of the Syrians
06:22and the bleeding of their blood will pay the price.
06:26How do we react to all these statements and signals?
06:31First of all, I would like to add a few words to the audience.
06:36Let us distinguish between two facts.
06:39The first is that what we are seeing is a natural result of a long period of rule,
06:48a family that ruled with iron and fire,
06:52and the Syrian people suffered a lot of pain and suffering.
06:56Perhaps when this Syrian people took action,
06:59I will try as much as possible to shorten the scene,
07:02we were surprised that the regime's response was in the end of violence
07:07and used the armed forces, which are supposed to be owned by people,
07:14to use them in confronting the people.
07:16Of course, any country located in an area is susceptible to the attacks of this area,
07:24especially in the shadow of the political regimes in our Arab countries,
07:28which ultimately do not always rely on the legitimacy of the acceptance of the people,
07:33the satisfaction of the people, and the domestic agreement.
07:37The excessive use of violence pushed the Syrian revolution to arm itself,
07:42which made it difficult for regional forces.
07:45Each side attracted conflicts, funding, and so on,
07:50until we reached the current situation in which these opposing forces,
07:55which ultimately adopted perhaps extremist and violent ideologies.
08:05Of course, this is in line with the system and the idea of what is called non-controversial wars,
08:13or wars that take place within countries.
08:16Of course, most of these regimes adopt extremist ideologies.
08:21There are many fears about the ideologies adopted by these regimes,
08:29and these regimes have weapons in their hands,
08:32which makes the idea of sitting on the negotiating table,
08:35and sitting on the table of agreements and understandings that we can say
08:40that it is enough to avoid the Syrian people and the Syrian state from entering into armed conflict.
08:48Here comes the big problem.
08:50I now have a record of the reality and a record of events.
08:55We come to the results obtained so far.
08:59Since three days, the results that came from there indicate perhaps a realization,
09:05and here I am talking about the available information so far,
09:09a realization of the dangers of social and population formation.
09:15There is a strong difference and a strong diversity within Syria.
09:19It includes a number of minorities, the Alawites, the Christians, and the Druze,
09:24which are minorities who seek and hope, of course,
09:28that there will be a kind of understanding and acceptance of the existence of these minorities,
09:35apart from the ideological discourses adopted by these regimes.
09:40So far, what is apparent, what is clear, what we have established,
09:45and apart from the individual events,
09:48that perhaps according to what has been announced,
09:51and the announcement that came to decide that minorities are protected,
09:56that they are not allowed to be exposed,
09:58that women are not allowed to be exposed to what they wear or in their outdoor appearance,
10:04all these decisions are perhaps uncertain.
10:08To what extent will this situation continue?
10:11This is the question.
10:13This is the question.
10:15I return to my guest from Ramallah, Mr. Nazar.
10:21Nazar, I ask you for a moment about Israel,
10:26how it has dealt with the situation and the developments of the situation,
10:31the situation in a rapid way.
10:33It has, of course, destroyed and is still destroying the Syrian army,
10:37it has destroyed the planes.
10:39Tens, if not hundreds of raids were carried out to destroy the planes,
10:43the warships, the strategic installations,
10:46and even the penetration into the Syrian soil
10:49reached 25 kilometers south-west of Damascus,
10:55and it is said that this is the capital of Jordan that it has occupied.
11:00Netanyahu said that he will remain in it permanently
11:05and will manage the background for all the preparations
11:08and for the continuation of the criticisms,
11:12the criticisms of the violation of the 1974 agreement.
11:18How do you react to all these data?
11:23In fact, this is a golden opportunity for Israel
11:28to dismantle Syria, of course,
11:31and this is also a great opportunity to assassinate
11:35the human treasure of Syria of the elites and scholars.
11:40Of course, Israel today, as it seems,
11:43has tried or has reached some of these groups,
11:48and there is a conversation between Israel and these groups
11:54in order to arrange events inside Syria.
11:59What Israel wants is to dismantle Syria as we said,
12:02and to turn Syria into scattered countries,
12:06and Israel has expanded geographically
12:09according to the dryness of Syria, of course,
12:13and of course the true intentions of Israel have also emerged
12:17when it comes to the peace process
12:20and the details of its relationship with the negotiations.
12:24We were ignorant of this in the past
12:27when we listened to some Israeli elites
12:30who are talking about political projects.
12:33It is clear that Israel wants Syria without an army,
12:36it wants a scattered and divided Syria.
12:38This is the first step towards the Middle East,
12:41full of chaos that serves Israeli interests.
12:43Israel wants to expand geographically
12:45through control.
12:46Israel wants to fight between these groups,
12:51and there is a statement by some elites
12:53when they talked about the need to support some minorities
12:56in order to establish states,
12:58especially for the Kurds in the Syrian East.
13:01Therefore, I think that the joy is great for the Israelis
13:04if we remain on the goals,
13:06that is, the near or the limited.
13:08But if we move strategically,
13:10and this is important,
13:11Israel wants to divide Iran.
13:13Israel wants to destroy all the fronts
13:16of the existing resistance,
13:18whether in Gaza or in Lebanon.
13:20Today, we are talking about the Syrian front,
13:23and Israel was the last to step on Syrian soil.
13:26Until this moment,
13:27we have not heard any statement
13:29from the leaders of these organizations
13:31or the leaders of these factions.
13:33How do you explain this, Mr. Nazzar?
13:36There was no interaction with this discussion.
13:40There was no interaction with this discussion,
13:43with the discussion of Tel Aviv
13:46for the Syrian soil.
13:48It is still in the past,
13:50and it continues to target,
13:53as I said,
13:54the fate of the Syrian army,
13:56and the reaction is zero.
14:01Simply,
14:03and there is no need to analyze this subject,
14:06it is clear that there are two projects
14:08The first project is the project of Iran,
14:11and the other project is the project
14:13of the American-Turkish Israel.
14:15We know that these organizations
14:17and these factions are supported by Turkey,
14:19and as we said,
14:20Israel has very close relations with them.
14:22Yesterday,
14:23the Hebrew media talked about this subject,
14:25and said that we have relations
14:27with some of these organizations,
14:29and that many tasks will be assigned to them.
14:31Therefore,
14:32I do not think that there will be
14:34any conflict between these organizations
14:36and the Israeli army,
14:38which entered yesterday,
14:4014 kilometers deep,
14:42and the Hadith says that the Israeli army
14:44is 20 kilometers away from Damascus.
14:46Therefore,
14:47the distance between Damascus
14:49and the Golan Heights,
14:51which is occupied by Israel,
14:53was 60 kilometers.
14:54Therefore,
14:55Israel entered 40 kilometers today,
14:57according to some media.
14:59This indicates that these organizations
15:01are supported by Israel,
15:03and are part of the Israeli project
15:06to gain control over the south of Syria.
15:10We will discuss this topic later.
15:12My question is for Dr. Mohamed Aboul Ainain.
15:15I would like to ask you
15:17about Russia's position
15:19since the beginning
15:21of these subsequent developments.
15:23Today,
15:24the Kremlin says that
15:26Bashar al-Assad made a mistake
15:28when he left power.
15:30How do we understand this?
15:32The Kremlin says
15:34that al-Assad's and his family's
15:36reception in Russia
15:38was a personal decision
15:40made by Russian President
15:42Vladimir Putin.
15:44Russia also said
15:46that it was surprised
15:48by what happened
15:50and that the events
15:52and the course of events
15:54have changed.
15:56Of course,
15:58a number of analyzes have been made
16:00considering that Russia
16:02is a great loser
16:04in this change,
16:06and that this change
16:08was obvious
16:10to its capabilities
16:12and its true position
16:14in today's world.
16:18Let's divide the answer
16:20into two parts.
16:22The first part,
16:24describing Russia
16:26as leaving Bashar al-Assad
16:28to Syria was wrong.
16:30This dictator
16:32and his family,
16:34who continued to rule
16:36Syria for a long time,
16:38allowed all possible
16:40so-called red lines.
16:42By the way,
16:44this is not only
16:46on the Syrian regime.
16:48In fact,
16:50the Syrian regime
16:52is a loser
16:54in many areas
16:56of legitimacy,
16:58which has made
17:00the Syrian regime,
17:02which may have refused to give,
17:04realistic with many
17:06attempts that
17:08may have been sent
17:10during the past period.
17:12This does not mean
17:14that I accept
17:16these so-called initiatives,
17:18as much as political science
17:20is always based
17:22on the idea of reality
17:24and dealing with a large
17:26number of people.
17:28The Syrian regime
17:30is a loser
17:32in many areas
17:34of legitimacy,
17:36which has made
17:38the Syrian regime,
17:40which may have refused
17:42to give,
17:44realistic with many
17:46attempts that
17:48may have been sent
17:50during the past period.
17:52The Syrian regime
17:54is a loser
17:56in many areas
17:58of legitimacy,
18:00which has made
18:02the Syrian regime,
18:04which may have refused
18:06to give,
18:08realistic with many
18:10attempts that
18:12may have been sent
18:14during the past period.
18:16The Syrian regime
18:18is a loser
18:20in many areas
18:22of legitimacy,
18:24which has made
18:26the Syrian regime,
18:28which may have refused
18:30to give,
18:32realistic with many
18:34attempts that
18:36may have been sent
18:38during the past period.
18:40The Syrian regime
18:42is a loser
18:44in many areas
18:46of legitimacy,
18:48which has made
18:50the Syrian regime,
18:52which may have refused
18:54to give,
18:56realistic with many
18:58attempts that
19:00may have been sent
19:02during the past period.
19:04The Syrian regime
19:06is a loser
19:08in many areas
19:10of legitimacy,
19:12which has made
19:14the Syrian regime,
19:16which may have refused
19:18to give,
19:20realistic with many
19:22attempts that
19:24may have been sent
19:26during the past period.
19:28The Syrian regime
19:30is a loser
19:32in many areas
19:34of legitimacy,
19:36which has made
19:38the Syrian regime,
19:40which may have refused
19:42to give,
19:44realistic with many
19:46attempts that
19:48may have been sent
19:50during the past period.
19:52The Syrian regime
19:54is a loser
19:56in many areas
19:58of legitimacy,
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20:02the Syrian regime,
20:04which may have refused
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20:08realistic with many
20:10attempts that
20:12may have been sent
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20:42Israel is still fighting
20:44the Palestinian people in Gaza.
20:46Israel is still fighting the Palestinian people in Gaza.
20:48Regarding Syria,
20:50I don't think
20:52the Hamas movement
20:54will be affected.
20:56I don't think
20:58the Hamas movement
21:00will be affected.
21:02The Islamic Jihad movement
21:04will definitely be affected
21:06because the relations
21:08between the Syrian state
21:10and the Israeli state
21:12are very tense.
21:14There are detainees
21:16in the Syrian prisons
21:18and 260 people
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