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00:00This program is brought to you by DAREGA KAITON NEN, a book club that brings together books from all over the world.
00:17So, where do we start today?
00:19Today, we're going to visit a small bookstore called KAMONEGI SHOTEN in Higashikujo, Kyoto.
00:26It's a small bookstore with about 10 books.
00:29Yes.
00:30They also have art exhibitions, workshops, and other events on social media.
00:37There's also this.
00:39Oh!
00:41A fortune cookie?
00:42Yes.
00:43Why is it in a bookstore?
00:44This isn't just a regular fortune cookie.
00:47For those of you who are wondering what to buy at a bookstore,
00:51they have a book title and a recommended book.
00:55I see.
00:56So, you look at the book title and decide what to buy?
00:59That's right.
01:00I see.
01:01So, there's a brief description of the book.
01:04That's right.
01:05Let's read it and see if there's anything interesting about it.
01:07There might be spoilers.
01:08Spoilers?
01:09Yes.
01:10Like the title of the book.
01:11There might be a criminal.
01:13That's a good point.
01:14That's a good point.
01:15That's a good point.
01:16That's a good point.
01:17That's an interesting attempt.
01:19That's a good idea.
01:20Yes.
01:21That's interesting.
01:22I see.
01:23So, we're going to visit this bookstore this week.
01:25I thought it was him.
01:27The failure of men.
01:29Is it like a love story?
01:32Yes.
01:33This is a book that explains the behavior of men
01:37who have heard more than 1,200 love stories and love advice.
01:45So, this is a book that you've heard from women?
01:48That's right.
01:49I see.
01:50It's like a book about the bad things about men.
01:52I see.
01:54In this kind of meeting, the comment section is really noisy.
01:57I don't like it.
01:58I don't think they understand.
01:59I feel like I'm being ignored.
02:01I see.
02:03My name is Takayuki Kiyota.
02:05I'm a member of a group called Momoyama Shouju.
02:07I'm a member of a group called Momoyama Shouju.
02:10I listen to various people's love stories,
02:13their problems at work, and their love stories.
02:16I listen to various people's stories
02:18and write about their problems, such as gender and relationships.
02:26I also talk about it on a podcast.
02:28I think about various things.
02:30That's what I do.
02:31What do you do at work?
02:35I write articles.
02:37I write books as a writer.
02:39I also talk at work.
02:41That's what I do.
02:43I see.
02:44You said you're a member of a group called Momoyama Shouju.
02:47How many members are there?
02:49There are four of us.
02:51Are they all men?
02:52No, there's one woman.
02:54We're all friends.
02:56We've been friends for over 20 years since we were college students.
03:00What?
03:01That sounds fun.
03:02A group that listens to people's stories?
03:04That's amazing.
03:06I was a boy in middle school.
03:09I was in a class full of girls.
03:14At first, I was just a random boy.
03:17I was like, hey, listen to me.
03:19What do boys do at a time like this?
03:21Oh, I see.
03:22That's when you were in a relationship.
03:26It was just a casual conversation.
03:29I didn't know anything about love.
03:33I was in trouble.
03:35I called a friend from my neighborhood.
03:39There were four or five guys.
03:42We talked about our friends' love stories and how they broke up.
03:47So you've been a college student all this time?
03:50Is this a gang?
03:53That's suspicious.
03:54And you're from Waseda.
03:56It has nothing to do with 2B.
03:59People say I look like 2B.
04:03So I got really serious.
04:06You're the opposite of 2B.
04:08We were like, let's just keep listening.
04:12Let's just keep listening.
04:14Don't touch me.
04:16Don't fall in love with me.
04:18The girl's boyfriend was a friend of mine.
04:23He was a college student.
04:25So I was like, is he going to do something like that?
04:29I heard a lot of stories about guys.
04:33I was scared.
04:36You're like a gossip girl in the school.
04:40You're the one who knows the most about the boys and girls in the school.
04:46I got a lot of requests from people I didn't know.
04:50They said there were guys who talked about love and broken-ups.
04:56I got a lot of requests from the girls in the school.
05:00But you're a college student.
05:04And you're going to graduate.
05:06But you've been dating for a long time.
05:09We all lived close to each other.
05:12So I got a lot of requests.
05:15That's weird.
05:17I'm sorry.
05:20I'm not that kind of person.
05:22You've been dating for a long time.
05:24Why do you keep talking about love?
05:26You've been dating for a long time.
05:30Everyone has a high level of consciousness.
05:33I'm going to ask you again today.
05:35You're a weird group.
05:37Do you think you're better at love?
05:42I don't know if I can be popular if I do this.
05:45I don't think I should do this.
05:47I see.
05:48It's not a technique to be popular.
05:51It's a technique that doesn't irritate women.
05:54When I was irritated, I thought about how to communicate.
05:59I thought about the cause.
06:01I thought there was a problem.
06:03I thought it would be helpful to make a hit.
06:06You're just a collector who collects topics.
06:11I used to be called a love collection unit.
06:16I'm in my 40s now.
06:19If you don't choose words, you can be called a love collection unit.
06:25I agree.
06:28This is an episode quiz.
06:30You have a girlfriend who loves Disney.
06:32You set a date for her birthday.
06:35You surprise her and go to Disney.
06:38But when you arrive, she is in a bad mood.
06:41You don't go to the hospital and go home.
06:43Why is she in a bad mood?
06:47As a man, you feel like you have a good boyfriend.
06:53Don't treat me like Kuro-chan.
06:56It's too much.
06:58Don't think of it as a prank.
07:01If you go to Disney, tell me.
07:04You should have more expectations.
07:07It's not a Disney outfit.
07:10It's good to bring her here.
07:12You didn't prepare an admission ticket.
07:16Maybe it's because you didn't plan well.
07:20I'm sure there are people who can do that.
07:25What's the answer?
07:27In Momoyama Shoji, it's called the tragedy of Surprise Disney.
07:32It's a legendary incident.
07:34I thought it was scary.
07:36I was talking about the outfit.
07:39I wore heels.
07:42It's a date, so it's a feminine outfit.
07:45But Disney has a waiting time.
07:49I wanted to wear something that was easy to move.
07:52It's your favorite dream.
07:54It's easy to wear.
07:57I wanted to wear clothes that I could adjust.
08:00If I go to my favorite Disney,
08:03I wanted to make a plan in advance and go there.
08:07I thought I had to take care of the waiting time.
08:10That's right.
08:12Did you have a lot of complaints?
08:14Yes.
08:15He only looked at the short hair.
08:20I wanted to surprise her with my plan.
08:24But she wanted to do it from day to day.
08:28Including the process.
08:31That's what the title says.
08:33I thought it would be good.
08:35That's right.
08:37It's a woman's fault.
08:41But I'm right.
08:43I'm almost right.
08:45What did you answer to that?
08:48I said, that's right.
08:50That's right?
08:52You're a collector.
08:54I just collect.
08:56I don't solve it.
08:58There's one more.
09:00Let's go to the second one.
09:02The main character's boyfriend.
09:04He denies himself.
09:06He becomes self-righteous.
09:08He starts a fight.
09:10He shouts, I should die.
09:12He tried to hit the wall.
09:14But she decided to break up.
09:16Why?
09:18I should die.
09:22It's very self-centered.
09:26If you die, I'll be sad.
09:30I don't understand.
09:32That's what I thought.
09:34This kind of story,
09:36I thought it would be better to be realistic.
09:38I thought it would be more calm.
09:40I said, I'll break up.
09:42I wanted to know what would happen.
09:44What do you think, sensei?
09:46I heard this story.
09:48I thought the same.
09:50I was thinking why.
09:52But she saw it.
09:54I should die.
09:56The moment I hit the wall.
09:58The moment I hit the wall.
10:00She relaxed her punch.
10:04I see.
10:06It's very calm.
10:08It's very calm.
10:10When I saw it, I thought, is he okay?
10:12I see.
10:14That's what I thought.
10:16It's acting.
10:18It's acting.
10:20I see.
10:22If you break up, I'll die.
10:24But she said, you won't die.
10:26I thought, is he okay?
10:28It's very calm.
10:30He's cool now.
10:32He's cool now.
10:34Next, we will talk about the story.
10:36Next, we will talk about the story.
10:38The behavior of men who hate women.
10:40The way they spend money is unclear.
10:42Suddenly, he starts hiking.
10:44Suddenly, he starts hiking.
10:46He uses expensive shoes.
10:48I know.
10:50Men want to do it.
10:52Men want to do it.
10:54He wants to spend all.
10:56The shoes are more expensive than the shoes.
10:58The shoes are more expensive than the shoes.
11:00He is a man.
11:02He is a man.
11:04I think he's a beginner.
11:06I think he's a beginner.
11:08He buys expensive shoes that he can't use.
11:10He buys expensive shoes that he can't use.
11:12I think so.
11:14It's the latest.
11:16He doesn't use them.
11:18It's an accessory.
11:20Women don't understand it.
11:22I
11:52Know
12:22Hi
12:52I
13:22Know
13:52You know, you don't really take on challenges, right?
13:55You don't really venture out into the world, right?
13:57Yeah, it's like that...
13:58It's like when you go to a ramen shop and you think,
14:00Next time you add soya sauce, you will end up adding Miso.
14:03That's how it is, huh?
14:04The men only play with their single members.
14:09The women only talk about the same things all the time.
14:11Is that fun?
14:13So BKB is fun when you play with your friends.
14:16From tomorrow we're going on a trip to the Philippines!
14:18I don't know if it's okay to have the same member every year.
14:21I know, I know. But he's really a young man.
14:24It's a little painful to have a new member.
14:30Even if I invite my co-workers over to eat,
14:33there are times when I say,
14:36but I don't want to be with a member that I'm really comfortable with.
14:41I see.
14:42It means that there are times when a woman wants to be with this person because she met this person the other day.
14:48But I go with a lot of people.
14:50There are quite a few times when I say,
14:52but I don't want to be with a member that I'm really comfortable with.
14:54That's amazing.
14:55I don't want to be with the same member every year.
14:59Another question.
15:00Why do men tend to avoid socializing with people they meet for the first time,
15:02and why do women tend to take them to their communities?
15:05For example, my boyfriend introduces his girlfriend to his local boyfriend.
15:14Men do that?
15:15Yes, men often introduce their girlfriends to their local friends.
15:21I often take my girlfriend to my friends' communities.
15:24When I take my boyfriend to my girlfriend's friends' communities,
15:28I don't really care.
15:30That's right.
15:31I totally understand.
15:32I don't think so.
15:33Why do I have to go there?
15:36I totally understand.
15:38Do you think women don't understand this?
15:40Maybe...
15:42Of course, there's a certain level of comfort for a fixed member.
15:46But women judge you, right?
15:49As a boyfriend, right?
15:51Oh, so you don't like that.
15:53If you're the one who judges, you can be at ease.
15:57But if you're the one who's judged,
15:59suddenly, you're like,
16:01I don't like this.
16:03I don't know if it's a possibility, but...
16:05It's frustrating.
16:07You don't know what you're talking about.
16:09If you come to me,
16:11it's okay.
16:12It's probably funny.
16:14It's fun.
16:16If you come to me,
16:17it's fun to hang out with me.
16:19There's probably something like that.
16:23Come to me.
16:25There's no way it's funny.
16:28There's no way it's funny.
16:30You can't turn it around.
16:31That's right.
16:33I totally understand.
16:34My ex-girlfriend
16:36There's a group of girls I've known for a long time.
16:41They all bring their husbands or boyfriends.
16:46It happens on a regular basis.
16:48I turned them all down.
16:51I'm the only one.
16:54I don't want her to think she doesn't have a boyfriend.
17:03Don't use me for your mount.
17:07Don't you think so?
17:09I have a boyfriend.
17:11It's okay to come once.
17:13That's right.
17:15If you're going to take me,
17:17come to me.
17:19That's what it means.
17:21A woman who wants to have a wedding.
17:23A man who doesn't want to have a wedding.
17:25That's probably what it means.
17:27It's a little close.
17:28I've never thought I wanted to have a wedding.
17:31It's for a woman.
17:32That's right.
17:33Why is it for a woman?
17:35It's a little rough.
17:37The comment section is a little rough.
17:39It's for your mount.
17:42Money.
17:44I'll hold the wedding.
17:46I'll give you the money I've saved up so far.
17:50I'll write you an invitation.
17:52It's hard to get up.
17:55Can I say this as a man?
17:57Everyone, celebrate!
18:00There's a big difference in that.
18:02I don't know how women feel.
18:05I don't know, but...
18:08I've never heard of a boyfriend like this before.
18:10It's like a women's meeting.
18:13It's like a women's meeting.
18:15I don't know.
18:17I think there will be many episodes like this.
18:24What do you want to tell in this book?
18:27As I said today,
18:29In a closed relationship,
18:33it's normal for us to behave in a natural way.
18:39So I thought about the structure and mechanism
18:44behind that behavior.
18:49I wanted to show men that my unconscious behavior
18:54was based on this principle.
18:57I wanted to show men that my unconscious behavior
19:02was based on this principle.
19:06Is it the opposite for you, Kyozo-san?
19:08Do you hear men's complaints about women?
19:13Of course I hear it from men.
19:15They tell me a lot of things.
19:18But I don't hear it from men.
19:23You don't talk that much?
19:25No, I don't.
19:27I don't talk that much.
19:29I talk a lot in the women's club.
19:32I look at women in detail.
19:34I talk to men in detail.
19:36Women's clubs are getting more and more complicated.
19:39You talk a lot about that.
19:41Kyozo-san has already reflected on himself.
19:44He has already rubbed it off.
19:46He has already rubbed it off.
19:48Men don't talk about their girlfriends
19:51in the men's club.
19:54That's the difference.
19:56That's the difference.
19:59The difference between men and women
20:01I heard this story.
20:03I think this is the principle of Honma.
20:06This author seems to be lowering men
20:09and collecting women's unpleasant points.
20:12That's possible.
20:13I understood that.
20:15He just wants us to complain.
20:18Women say things like this.
20:21How about that, Mr. Tanaba?
20:23He just wants us to complain.
20:26That's right.
20:28He says this book is bad.
20:31When he buys it, women get angry.
20:35That's right.
20:37This is what makes women angry.
20:39I saw it on the Internet.
20:41This is what makes women angry.
20:43It's the same as convenience goods.
20:45That's right.
20:46You bought this.
20:48I understand.
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