In this exclusive interview, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov opens up about key issues regarding Russia’s military strategy and its relationship with the West. Published on Tucker Carlson's YouTube page, Lavrov reveals Russia’s perspective on the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, the use of hypersonic missiles, and the implications of NATO's involvement. He also discusses the potential for peace and how Western sanctions have failed to weaken Russia. This interview, shared by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, offers an inside look into Russia's foreign policy and its response to global pressures.
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00:00The United States is funding a conflict that you're involved in, of course, and now is
00:08allowing attacks on Russia itself.
00:13So that doesn't constitute war?
00:16Well, we officially are not at war.
00:22But what is going on in Ukraine is the, some people call it hybrid war, I would call it
00:32hybrid war as well, but it is obvious that the Ukrainians would not be able to do what
00:40they're doing with long-range modern weapons without direct participation of the American
00:48servicemen.
00:50This is dangerous, no doubt about this.
00:56We don't want to aggravate the situation, but since ATAKOMs and other long-range weapons
01:04are being used against mainland Russia as at war, we are sending signals, and we hope
01:12that the last one, a couple of weeks ago, the signal was the new weapon system called
01:18Areshnik, was taken seriously.
01:23However, we also know that some officials in the Pentagon and in other places, including
01:34NATO, they started saying in the last few days something like, well, NATO is a defensive
01:42alliance, but sometimes you can strike first because the ATAK is the best defense.
01:49Some others in STRATCOM, I think Bukinin is his name, representative of STRATCOM, he said
02:00something which allows for an eventuality of exchange of limited nuclear strikes.
02:11And this kind of threats are really worrying, because if they are following the logic which
02:19some Westerners have been pronouncing lately, that, well, don't believe that Russia has
02:28red lines, they announced their red lines, these red lines are being moved again and
02:32again and again, this is a very serious mistake.
02:39That's what I would like to say in response to this question.
02:44And you know, it's very interesting when people in the West say, we want this conflict to
02:53be resolved on the basis of the UN Charter and respect for territorial integrity of Ukraine,
02:58Russia must withdraw.
03:01The Secretary General of the United Nations says similar things.
03:06Recently, his representative repeated that the conflict must be resolved on the basis
03:12of international law, UN Charter, General Assembly resolutions, while respecting territorial
03:20integrity of Ukraine.
03:22It's a misnomer, because if you want to respect the United Nations Charter, you have to respect
03:29it in its entirety.
03:32And the United Nations Charter, among other things, says that all countries must respect
03:39equality of states and the right of people for self-determination.
03:49And they also mentioned the United Nations General Assembly resolutions, and this is
03:55clear that what they mean is the series of resolutions which they passed after the beginning
04:03of the special military operation and which demand condemnation of Russia, Russia get
04:09out of Ukraine territory in 1991 borders.
04:15But there are other United Nations General Assembly resolutions which were not voted,
04:21but which were consensual, and among them is a declaration on principles of relations
04:29between states on the basis of the Charter, and it clearly says, by consensus, everybody
04:38must respect territorial integrity of states whose governments respect the right of people
04:46for self-determination, and because of that, represent the entire population living on
04:54a given territory.
04:56To argue that the people who came to power through military coup d'etat in February 2014
05:05represented Crimeans or the citizens of eastern and southern Ukraine is absolutely useless.
05:14It is obvious that Crimeans rejected the coup.
05:18They said, leave us alone, we don't want to have anything with you.
05:21So did Donbass, Crimeans held referendum, and they rejoined Russia.
05:28Donbass was declared by the putschists who came to power a terrorist group.
05:35They were shelled, attacked by artillery.
05:40The war started, which was stopped in February 2015, and the Minsk Agreements were signed,
05:48and we were very sincerely interested in closing this drama by seeing Minsk Agreements implemented
05:57fully.
05:59It was sabotaged by the government which was established after the coup d'etat in Ukraine.
06:08There was a demand that they enter into a direct dialogue with the people who did not
06:14accept the coup.
06:17There was a demand that they promote economic relations with that part of Ukraine, and so
06:24on and so forth.
06:25None of this was done.
06:28The people in Kiev were saying we would never talk to them directly, and this is in spite
06:35of the fact that the demand to talk to them directly was endorsed by the Security Council.
06:42And they said they are terrorists, we would be fighting them, and they would be dying
06:48in cellars because we are stronger.
06:53Had the coup in February 2014, had it not happened, and had the deal which was reached
07:05the day before between the then president and the opposition implemented, Ukraine would
07:12have stayed one piece by now with Crimea in it.
07:17It's absolutely clear.
07:20They did not deliver on the deal, instead they staged the coup.
07:24The deal, by the way, provided for creation of a government of national unity in February
07:302014, and holding early elections, which the then president would have lost.
07:41Everybody knew that.
07:43But they were impatient, and they took the government buildings the next morning.
07:51They went to this Maidan Square and announced that they created the government of the winners.
07:59Compare the government of national unity to prepare for elections, and the government
08:04of the winners.
08:06How can the people whom they, in their view, defeated?
08:12How can they pretend that they respect the authorities in Kiev?
08:19You know, the right for self-determination is the international legal basis for decolonization
08:26process, which took place in Africa on the basis of this charter principle, the right
08:35for self-determination.
08:37The people in the colonies, they never treated the colonial powers, colonial masters, as
08:45somebody who represent them, as somebody whom they want to see in the structures which govern
08:55those lands.
08:56By the same token, the people in east and south of Ukraine, people in Donbass and Novorossia,
09:05they don't consider the Zelensky regime as something which represents their interests.
09:14How can they, when their culture, their language, their traditions, their religion, all this
09:21was prohibited?
09:25Take any conflict.
09:26The United States, UK, Brussels, they would interfere saying, oh, human rights have been
09:32grossly violated.
09:34We must restore the human rights in such and such territory.
09:39On Ukraine, never, ever, they mumbled the words human rights, seeing these human rights
09:48for the Russian and Russian-speaking population being totally exterminated by law.
09:56So when people say, let's resolve the conflict on the basis of the charter, yes, but don't
10:03forget that the charter is not only about territorial integrity, and territorial integrity
10:09must be respected only if the governments are legitimate and if they respect the right
10:15of their own people.