ザ・ノンフィクション 炎の中で死んだ父を僕は知らない2～父と母と家族のこと～
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00:00I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:02I'm sorry.
00:04I'm sorry.
00:06I'm sorry.
00:11The mother was alone and found in a state of anxiety.
00:14Her younger brother committed suicide due to mental illness.
00:17And her father died of burns.
00:20She was alone in a place where she could not find her way.
00:27I was very upset that I couldn't get permission from the doctor.
00:32I'm going to cry.
00:36I want to give you a little bit of my hand.
00:39I'll definitely collect it.
00:41I'll collect 2,000 yen.
00:44I'm sorry.
00:56Yosuke Ochiai, 43 years old.
01:00This is a painting of his father, who had just passed away.
01:04It's a picture of a raccoon.
01:07How much is this?
01:11I think it's 5 million yen for the death bonus.
01:16But it's 100.
01:19100.
01:2280.
01:2680.
01:29I think it's 50 million yen.
01:41Yosuke Ochiai, 43 years old.
01:44It's interesting.
01:46Something strange is coming out.
01:51Something strange is coming out of the window.
01:54Wow, it's hot.
01:56When I was a kid, I used to play with this.
02:00When I was a kid.
02:02Is this your father's box?
02:04Yes.
02:05This is my Mild Seven.
02:07Even if it's his father's memory,
02:10it's only a small part of his childhood.
02:17His father was proud of his return to Spain,
02:20and he wanted to get closer to him.
02:24He was chosen as one of the 150 modern Spanish painters,
02:27and he published his first work.
02:30This is a very difficult situation.
02:33I'm glad that he chose me,
02:36and that he chose Miro, Tapiez, and Picasso.
02:44The representative works,
02:46the Water Mirror and the Wind Mirror series,
02:49were created with the hope that
02:52people's hearts would be drawn to the beauty of nature.
02:58However,
03:00his father was very upset about this,
03:04and in April of this year,
03:06he caused a lot of trouble in his neighborhood.
03:09He had a fire and left.
03:14What was left was a miraculously burned atelier
03:20and a large number of paintings.
03:23This is his son, Yosuke Gifure,
03:26who was born in Spain.
03:35Because of this painting,
03:37my family is in a mess.
03:40It's like a mirror.
03:44I can't stand up easily.
03:47I don't think it matters to people who don't care.
03:51I don't think it matters to people who don't care.
03:55I don't know how hard it was for him.
03:59As a passing example,
04:01I want to say goodbye.
04:03Maybe.
04:07It's not that I want money.
04:12Life is strange.
04:14I think so.
04:20Because of his father's passion for art,
04:23his family's life was in a mess.
04:29Gifure's younger brother, Satoshi,
04:32passed away at the age of 20.
04:41His mother, Shigeko, died of loneliness.
04:44She found him when she didn't even know he was dead.
04:51There are no family photos of the four of them
04:54in the house where something is always missing.
05:04His father left behind a large number of works
05:07and other troublesome things.
05:13This is his debt of 15 million yen.
05:21If he continues to paint,
05:23he will have to pay for his debt.
05:26If he gives up painting,
05:28he will have to give up painting.
05:32Are you okay?
05:34What is the right thing to do?
05:37Looking for the answer,
05:39Gifure began his journey
05:42to visit people who knew his late father.
05:45It's been a month since the fire,
05:48and the person he visited on this day was...
05:59Yamaguchi, his father's artist friend,
06:02who came to the site of the fire.
06:05He is now the priest of the temple.
06:16I'm glad you came when there was a car.
06:19You don't have to come anymore.
06:22And then...
06:24Hello.
06:29This is Yosuke.
06:32Oh, you're here.
06:34I've been away for a long time.
06:38When you were so little.
06:42He was my mother's proud son.
06:45Oh, really?
06:47Did you talk to him a lot?
06:50Of course, of course.
06:52He was on my mother's side.
06:55I was probably hated by my mother.
07:00I was on Mr. Shingeko's side.
07:03Mr. Shingeko was still about 35 years old.
07:08He had a great atelier,
07:11and he had been in Spain for a long time.
07:16Some people came from Spain relying on him.
07:22Some women came.
07:25They lived there for a month or so.
07:32There was a room where his mother lived.
07:41Mr. Shingeko could see the light of the third floor at night.
07:51He cried because it was painful.
07:57I was on my mother's side.
08:00I told him that I wanted to go to Disneyland with my family.
08:12We both cried.
08:15My mother didn't cry.
08:19That's right.
08:21Mr. Shingeko wanted a family photo taken by the four of us at Disneyland.
08:33I don't think he wanted anything more than that.
08:37I wanted to get married, but I couldn't.
08:45I was young, and Mr. Shingeko was young,
08:49so I felt empty about being different from myself.
09:02Why did his father destroy his family?
09:07The more you follow your father's life,
09:10the more people you have to meet.
09:16I'm sorry to bother you.
09:20No, no, no.
09:22I'm the one who should be thanking you.
09:25I'm so embarrassed.
09:28Why?
09:30I'm so embarrassed.
09:32Why?
09:36This is his mother, Shigeko's younger sister.
09:39In other words, she is his aunt.
09:49I don't know what to say.
09:51It's like getting used to it.
09:53How did you meet?
09:55I didn't know.
09:56He was a gorgeous man.
09:59If you look at his photos, he was a beautiful young man.
10:03He was very beautiful.
10:05Yes, he was.
10:07When he was a college student,
10:10he was very good at drawing.
10:14He graduated from a university in Spain,
10:17and he was a painter.
10:20He was very different from a normal salaryman.
10:23He was also very different from a normal college student.
10:26They fell in love at first sight.
10:29I think they started dating right away.
10:32And they started living together.
10:35But at that time,
10:37his parents were very strict.
10:41They couldn't forgive him.
10:44So they told him to get married right away.
10:47They couldn't forgive him for being gay.
10:50That's what they thought.
10:54After a while of marriage,
10:57they moved to Spain.
11:01Koji was a very strict man.
11:04His sister couldn't take care of him.
11:07She said, people like you don't know anything.
11:10Of course, that's what she said.
11:13So he got a divorce.
11:16He didn't have money to go back to Spain to get a divorce.
11:21His mother sent him 300,000 yen.
11:27And then you were born.
11:31The cost of going back to Spain was the cost of your birth.
11:37I see.
11:39It was good at first,
11:42but he couldn't live a normal married life.
11:46He was born between an artist and an arrogant woman.
11:57When his parents got used to him,
12:00and when their relationship was about to end,
12:03he was born.
12:09After that, his mother got divorced,
12:12and his younger brother was still in elementary school.
12:15He lived in this house for almost a year.
12:23Gifure went to the middle and high schools,
12:26and left Nagano for a better life.
12:29But his mother was heartbroken.
12:33When he came back in the summer,
12:36he got married to Ryotaro Hashimoto,
12:39and Ryosuke was going to go to Hitotsubashi University.
12:42Ryotaro told me that he was going to do his best.
12:45He told me that in the summer.
12:48I told him that it was bad,
12:51and I told him to run away.
12:54I told him not to stay with me.
12:58His mother couldn't face her child anymore.
13:03His father told his mother how he felt about his divorce.
13:08No matter what people say,
13:11I want to be with a person like Shigeko.
13:16Everyone will go their own way,
13:19but I hope that the day will come
13:22when we can be together as a family.
13:25I hope that day will come when we can be together as a family.
13:30In those days,
13:33his younger brother, who became a middle school student,
13:36decided to live in an orphanage.
13:41On the other hand, Gifure went to college
13:44while delivering newspapers,
13:47and got a job in Tokyo.
13:51It was eight years ago
13:54that he heard about his mother's death.
13:58When Gifure, who received a call from the police,
14:01rushed to the hospital,
14:04more than a month had passed.
14:19Why did his family end up like this?
14:27Gifure's journey
14:29became a journey to find the answer.
14:35About two months after the fire,
14:38Mr. Terada, a pottery artist,
14:41came to visit his father.
14:44He often held exhibitions with his father.
14:48Excuse me.
14:51It was a big deal.
14:54Yes, it was a fire.
14:57You caused a fire before, didn't you?
15:00Yes, when I was a kid.
15:03I haven't lived with him since I was a kid,
15:06so I don't know much about him.
15:09You don't know him, do you?
15:11No one knows him.
15:14No one knows him.
15:17He's a strange person.
15:20Even when they held exhibitions together,
15:23his father said he didn't understand it until the end.
15:27I'll give you this.
15:30What is it?
15:32I'd like you to take it.
15:35Wait a minute.
15:38You know,
15:41you used to play the role of Shunan Kenjutsu, didn't you?
15:46Yes, I did.
15:48Matsushiro's role.
15:51He said he'd give it to you.
15:54Why?
15:56I don't know why.
15:59I'll give it to you.
16:01Take it home.
16:04It's a good katana.
16:07I'll give it to you.
16:09I see.
16:11When I look at the picture,
16:14I want to help him a little.
16:17He looks like a stray cat.
16:20I want to do something for him.
16:23But it's not a bad thing.
16:26You don't have to give it all to him.
16:29Leave some for him.
16:32In the house of Mr. Terada,
16:35his father's work was displayed.
16:38Hello.
16:41Hello.
16:43Windmill.
16:46After all, there are people who care about him.
16:50Tsumudaya.
16:54I don't know.
16:56But Gifure has someone who cares about him more than that.
17:00Everyone.
17:02Grandchild.
17:04Daughter.
17:06Daughter's husband.
17:08Grandchild.
17:10Two grandchildren.
17:12But they're not in this house anymore.
17:15They're out of town.
17:19I wonder what the difference is
17:22between an artist and a person
17:25who has a family and a person who doesn't.
17:30I love my family.
17:33You have love.
17:38Is this what he wanted?
17:45Excuse me.
17:49Every time he visits an artist like his father...
17:53Ah.
17:55I'm Otsuya Yosei.
17:57Please come in.
17:59His heart is beaten.
18:02Mr. Ryoji Ikeda is only one year older than his father,
18:07but he is a so-called successful person
18:10who has inherited the art world.
18:14I think this is the biggest change
18:18that Mr. Otsuya has made in his life.
18:23I see.
18:25There are two things that I couldn't do
18:28because Mr. Otsuya told me to.
18:31I couldn't come and paint with him this time.
18:40Mr. Otsuya is planning to move to my house.
18:44I want to do something there.
18:52I'd like to do something about a lot of paintings,
18:56but I can't do it unless it's a debt and a set.
19:01I wish I had a place to get it.
19:05I don't think there are many artists in the art world now.
19:12That's right.
19:14There was a famous Japanese artist who was evicted by his family.
19:19I've heard about it.
19:22That's why it's not a difficult problem.
19:26I see.
19:31I don't know anymore.
19:34I've heard a lot about my father from various people.
19:39I feel like I'm being swept away by the river.
19:43I don't know what I'm doing.
19:48In such an invisible situation,
19:51there is a possibility of a new era.
19:57This is it.
20:02Spain, Barcelona, Japan, Japan,
20:06the first prize winner,
20:09Mr. Otsuya has a rare painting in the world.
20:16Well, at least 42-year-old Koji Otsuya
20:21had this Miro Majorca series.
20:26What came out of the studio was a newspaper article about the end of the bubble economy.
20:32And what was being scrapped together was...
20:37This is Miro Majorca series.
20:41It was published by a Spanish artist.
20:46It was published in Tokyo, Nagano.
20:50Apparently, my father has this.
20:55If the painting is still there,
20:58all the worries about money will be blown away.
21:03Joan Miro is known as a pioneer of modern art,
21:07along with Picasso.
21:10Mr. Koji, the father of Giffre,
21:13is familiar with Miro.
21:16I'm going to borrow 50,000 yen from Mr. Yamaguchi.
21:20I'm going to borrow 20,000 yen from Mr. Daieji.
21:2250,000 yen in total.
21:24I haven't heard from Mr. Yosuke.
21:27I can't keep in touch.
21:29I'm sorry.
21:31It's not a diary of someone who has Miro, is it?
21:35If I had it, I'd be overflowing with hope.
21:38I'd sell it.
21:40If I sold it, I'd be fine.
21:44I don't like this kind of thing.
21:47You're so assertive.
21:49I'm going to keep it to myself.
21:54It's hard to find Miro,
21:57but what came instead was...
22:00This is a picture of my father's old studio.
22:04Your old studio?
22:06It's over there.
22:12It was so beautiful.
22:14Yes.
22:17The program staff helped him
22:19with his big project.
22:24Look, it's Miro.
22:29That's different.
22:31It's fake Miro.
22:34Just show me Miro.
22:39Miro.
22:43Good morning.
22:45I saw the line.
22:47What's that?
22:50Is it for sale?
22:52No, it's not for sale.
22:54It's for sale until 1992.
22:56It's for sale until 1992?
22:58It's on display.
23:00What remained in the diary was...
23:03Miro series, Majolica.
23:08If it was for sale,
23:10it would be out of print.
23:12I don't think it's here.
23:14These are all drafts.
23:16I like the habit of keeping drafts.
23:20I don't know who Yamaguchi is.
23:22I'm asking Yamaguchi.
23:24This is Kitanomi.
23:26It's in front of Nagano station.
23:28It's a big company.
23:31The other one is worth 25 million yen.
23:34This one is worth 27.5 million yen.
23:37Even if it was for sale here,
23:40the Majolica series of Miro in 1992
23:43wouldn't have existed.
23:46There's no Kitanomi here.
23:49I don't think they bought it.
23:52I think it's in the museum.
23:55Really?
23:57Did you check it on your phone?
23:59I see.
24:04This is Majolica.
24:06I'm sorry to call you all of a sudden.
24:10I think the Majolica series of Miro
24:15is on display there.
24:18Yes.
24:19I have a phone call.
24:21I'm Yosuke.
24:24My father has the Majolica series of Miro
24:27on his phone.
24:30I was looking up where the Majolica series
24:33of Miro went.
24:36If my father had the works of the museum,
24:39I thought I would give up.
24:42I looked it up on the website.
24:45If my father had it,
24:48I thought he might have gone there.
24:51I'm glad I was able to check it out.
24:54I'm glad I was able to check it out.
24:59I bought the Majolica series of Miro.
25:02I bought it in 1985.
25:05It's out of date.
25:08I bought it in 1985.
25:11You bought it in 1985.
25:14I bought it in 1985.
25:17I'm sorry for the previous owner.
25:20I can't give you the exact date.
25:23That's right.
25:26That's right.
25:32I don't know.
25:38It's finally time to put out the fire.
25:45Hello.
25:46On this day,
25:48I visited my father's fan, Mr. Harada.
25:51I was shocked.
25:54I don't know what to say.
26:00It's a recent painting.
26:03That's right.
26:05I like this painting.
26:07The current painting is a little different.
26:10It's different, isn't it?
26:12This is the one before.
26:15I think it was 5 or 6 years ago.
26:19It's a strange painting.
26:23I don't know the tone.
26:28My father was old.
26:31He was old.
26:33He wasn't old.
26:34I know.
26:35I think he was bald.
26:37He was old.
26:39But he lived like a beast.
26:44I was worried about this painting.
26:49But when I saw this painting, I didn't like it at all.
26:52That's right.
26:53I started to think this painting was amazing.
26:57I like this painting.
26:59It's free.
27:00This is...
27:02Mr. Harada, this is a very important painting.
27:07It says Mr. Harada.
27:10Really?
27:11Yes.
27:14Mr. Harada.
27:15It's amazing, isn't it?
27:16Yes.
27:17This is my father's painting that I've seen since I was a child.
27:21I see.
27:24I wonder how he could paint like this.
27:29I was so sad that he didn't recognize me.
27:34I'm sorry.
27:37Mr. Harada's father sent him a lot of paintings.
27:43I thought he was a teacher.
27:46I thought he was an interesting teacher.
27:53I started to learn how to paint with bamboo.
27:55I was asked to come here.
27:57I came here a lot.
27:59I came here every day.
28:02There is a resume.
28:04Is this a recent one?
28:07This is April this year.
28:09It was just two days ago that the fire broke out.
28:19Mr. Harada, this is Mr. Ochiai.
28:21I have something good to tell you today.
28:26I'll get my resume by the end of this month.
28:33I'm so happy.
28:36Thank you very much.
28:38I'm sorry.
28:42Some people love their father's paintings so much.
28:48Gifure applied to the court to extend the period of suspension.
29:03If this is approved, he can look for a way to keep his father's paintings for a while.
29:18On the other hand, he started trying to get the world to notice his father's paintings.
29:30Like his father, who reflected his heart on the motif of nature called wind and water,
29:36his son also took his work outside and took pictures in the sun and the wind.
29:48His father's paintings are still in the air.
29:54If he posts these pictures on social media, someone may notice the value of his work.
30:03On the other hand...
30:06I made this.
30:08It's called a death certificate.
30:18Hang in there, dad.
30:21You've already met so many people.
30:24There are so many people.
30:28About 1,000 people.
30:30You've met a lot of people.
30:33Then someone reacted to the death certificate.
30:39It was Mr. Kuraisu, who often appears in his father's diary as a childhood friend.
30:50It's open.
30:52Oh, you're here.
30:54Hello.
30:56Welcome.
30:58I'm Yosuke.
31:00You're big.
31:02My father was small.
31:04You've grown up.
31:06You've grown up.
31:08I can't say you've grown up.
31:10I only knew you when you were small.
31:12I loved my mother so much until I died.
31:19The first person who reacted to the death certificate was Mr. Kuraisu, a childhood friend who had been with him for decades since he was in elementary school.
31:37He was like a mother to me.
31:47My mother was beautiful.
31:51I loved my mother so much until I died.
32:02I think I liked boys.
32:05I think so, too.
32:07I think so, too.
32:09Why?
32:11I don't know.
32:13I don't know.
32:15Do you think so?
32:17I'm sure of that.
32:21That was a shocking word.
32:25You've been with him since elementary school, right?
32:27He was bullied in the park.
32:37Can I say this?
32:39Of course.
32:41He was bullied a lot.
32:45I was healthy and well.
32:49So, I helped him.
32:53I think that was the reason.
32:57We've never been in the same class.
33:00Since four or five years ago, I've been angry at him.
33:09You mean Mr. Kuraisu?
33:11I told him not to drink.
33:13He drank and smoked.
33:15It was terrible in many ways.
33:21Many people were worried about him.
33:26When I came back from Spain,
33:29I told people around me not to make fun of him.
33:37But they did.
33:41His popularity was recorded in an old video.
33:47In a local department store in Nagano,
33:51there was a list of sold-out tickets.
33:56He was surrounded by the most popular people in the city.
34:00He looked confident.
34:05This is the one I like the most.
34:09There weren't many colors back then.
34:12It's from 1983.
34:14It's from Spain.
34:18It's a red light.
34:23It's a strong red.
34:31Gifure had something he wanted to show Mr. Kuraisu.
34:36It was a diary that his father had prepared before he left for Spain.
34:42Two years later, they never met again.
34:46I changed, he changed.
34:49The world changed,
34:51but the fate of me and Mr. Kuraisu didn't change.
34:58I can't believe he wrote this.
35:02I can't believe it.
35:11I'm tearing up.
35:16I'm about to cry.
35:18It's the beginning of his youth.
35:32I'm about to cry.
35:40It was the best time of my life.
35:45It was the first time he touched his father's youth.
35:51It's been a few years since then.
35:55I was very happy to receive that photo.
36:04The photo was sent from Spain.
36:08He says it was dazzling to see him fighting in a foreign country.
36:14If I had gotten along with my mother,
36:18my life would have been completely different.
36:22I think that's the most important thing.
36:27There are a lot of mothers in your works.
36:30What do you mean by mothers?
36:33Chieko is one of them.
36:37I don't think anyone knows.
36:42I don't think anyone knows, but that's how I see it.
36:46There are a lot of your works.
36:52I think this is the last letter.
36:55I wrote a note for you.
36:57Please come and get it.
36:59I didn't go.
37:00It's probably burned.
37:03So...
37:09Gifure has been visiting his father's works ever since he met Kuraishi.
37:22He heard that the Shiga Kogen Roman Museum
37:25has a collection of his father's works.
37:33There are a lot of them.
37:35Aren't there a lot of them?
37:37There are three.
37:39There are a lot of them.
37:41These are the three.
37:44These are the three.
37:48I think this one and this one are the same.
37:55I'm sure you've calculated everything.
37:58I don't want to make it feel like I'm doing it on purpose.
38:05People say this.
38:07They say,
38:08Chieko is here, Chieko is here.
38:10That's what I was told.
38:12His mother may be among the paintings
38:16that he thought were just abstract paintings.
38:20This is the entrance.
38:25I'm starting to feel relieved.
38:36About half a year after his father's death,
38:40someone from the U.S. came to visit his grave.
38:45Mashu Rapsha.
38:47He was a great help when his father, Koji,
38:51opened his own shop in New York.
39:05Mashu was originally taught Japanese
39:08by Chieko, Gifu's mother.
39:11However, when he was introduced to his father,
39:15he was fascinated by his unique sensibility
39:18and started to hang out with his family.
39:23His younger brother, Gifure,
39:25started to hang out with him, too.
39:30Mashu, who was like a family member to him,
39:33brought along
39:35a picture of his family.
39:44I've also included some photographs.
39:50This is a picture of the family.
39:54This was at our wedding party.
39:57Whose wedding party?
39:59Me and Chizuru Gomisawa in 1988.
40:05Gifure even saw it in his dream.
40:27I never imagined we would meet like this.
40:34Koji looking as elegant as ever.
40:39I miss them.
40:48But thank you for everything.
40:51Yeah, you too.
40:53Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you.
41:00Mashu said the same thing about Gifure's daughter.
41:09She's important to me.
41:12She's the future.
41:14I send you her photo sometimes.
41:30This is a picture of his family.
41:33He thought it was a dream come true.
41:37But what he saw in the picture
41:41was his family everywhere.
41:50Someone posted a picture of his father on social media
41:54and said he wanted to help.
41:59I'm Gifure.
42:01I'm Taishi.
42:03How old are you?
42:05I'm 44.
42:06I'm 45 this year.
42:08I'm 45 this year.
42:16Taishi founded several companies in Niigata
42:21and is said to be connecting art with social welfare.
42:26The reality is that
42:29the minimum wage is 20 million yen.
42:33I thought it would take a lot of money to fix everything.
42:39I asked a real estate agent.
42:41He said it would take about 20 million yen.
42:45It might be around 10 million yen.
42:48But if you think about it,
42:51if you don't have 20 million or 30 million yen,
42:55you won't be able to take care of yourself.
43:00That's what I think is the biggest challenge.
43:05If it's 100 million yen, it's a lot of money.
43:10But if it's 30 million yen,
43:13it's a lot of money.
43:15In that sense, I think we can build a foundation
43:20and protect ourselves.
43:25But it's too far from Tokyo.
43:28That's what I think.
43:31So if you want to do something like that,
43:35you have to think about how to do it.
43:39I think it's better to do it.
43:43If it's 20 million yen,
43:46I won't be able to do anything weird.
43:49If it's 200 million yen,
43:52it's a lot of money.
43:54I just said it, but I have the answer.
43:57I can give you the answer.
43:59But it's different.
44:01It's different.
44:06And finally, Gifure goes to Spain,
44:09where his father was born.
44:12It's you!
44:15I'm your friend.
44:18So nice. So good.
44:21There is a world of his father there that he doesn't know yet.
44:30At the fish market, where he has gathered the power of travel,
44:33he gets angry with his co-workers.
44:39He's pure and innocent.
44:41And he's weak.
44:43That's why he's not prepared.
44:46And...
44:47This is Mr. Yosuke.
44:50I'm Shiro.
44:53I'm in charge of day service training.