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00:00What kind of era was Showa for everyone?
00:06This program is a program that looks back on Showa items, Showa places, and Showa people.
00:17It is a program that brings back the good old days of Showa with memories.
00:26Ichiro Funakoshi's Showa Play Factory
00:34Good evening, I'm Ichiro Funakoshi.
00:36I'm Marin Sakata.
00:38This time, I'm going to play the role of a legend who has appeared in a number of famous dramas.
00:50I'm going to play various memories from my childhood.
00:56I wonder what kind of play it will be this time.
00:59Let's get started.
01:01Showa Play Factory
01:05Mr. Funakoshi, it's been a long time.
01:08It's been a long time.
01:09I'm Tomiyuki Kunihiro.
01:10Nice to meet you.
01:12Actor Tomiyuki Kunihiro
01:15He made his debut as an actor on the drama Kishibe at the age of 24 in 1952.
01:21It's a great drama.
01:23After gaining idol-like popularity with his acting skills and sweet looks,
01:29It is a red series starring famous actors such as Momoe Yamaguchi and Ken Utsui.
01:37He played a popular role in a popular drama such as the rumored detective Tommy and Matsu, which became popular with Shigeru Matsuzaki.
01:46This time, Tomiyuki Kunihiro will visit the land of drama Yukari and play the memories of that time.
01:54What are the feelings for each other that Mr. Kunihiro and his partner Shigeru Matsuzaki talk about?
02:01Tomiyuki Kunihiro's Showa drama, Memories Playback.
02:06First of all, the origin of the actor's life after the situation.
02:11First of all, I came to Okubo, Shinjuku, a city that is now very popular with young people as a Korean town.
02:20I came to Tokyo and went to the Matsuura Takeo Theater Research Institute.
02:30It is located in Okubo.
02:32I'm at the intersection of Otakibashi Street in Shinjuku and Okubo Street.
02:38So today, I'm going to see what's going on at the Matsuura Theater Research Institute.
02:49First of all, the origin of Mr. Kunihiro's actor's life.
02:52To the place where the Matsuura Takeo Theater Research Institute was located.
02:57I wonder if it still exists.
03:00I was born and raised in Kyoto.
03:04So, as you know, there were a lot of period dramas in Kyoto.
03:12And when I was a student, I often appeared on the bulletin board of the school, asking how many extras and how many people to recruit.
03:21Well, it was pretty good, so I was working part-time as an extra.
03:26And there, I gradually came to understand the fun of making a movie.
03:34It can't be helped that such a good sound came out as an extra.
03:38Mr. Kunihiro went to the theater about 50 years ago.
03:42He doesn't know where it was at that time.
03:46Let's ask the locals who happened to pass by.
03:50Excuse me.
03:52My name is Kunihiro Tomiyuki.
03:55There used to be a Matsuura Theater Research Institute around here.
03:59I know it well.
04:00Is that so?
04:01Isn't it the No. 1 theater there?
04:04I know it well.
04:07It looks like you prepared something here.
04:10I've lived here for 70 years.
04:12Is that so?
04:13That's why I know it well.
04:16He happened to meet someone who knew about the theater at that time.
04:19He asked where the theater was.
04:22It's next to an old house.
04:25Do you still have it?
04:26Yes, I do.
04:27I was looking for it while thinking that it should be around here.
04:31By all means.
04:33He went to the place where he was taught.
04:36I'm sure it's a famous place.
04:39It looks like this.
04:43It looks like this.
04:46It has a good taste.
04:48He studied in this house.
04:51There was an old house when I came in.
04:58It was a place where a small part of an ordinary house was remodeled.
05:11I see.
05:12It's been 40 years.
05:15It's completely changed.
05:17Today, I'm going to meet a friend who was a member of the theater at that time.
05:27Hello, Mr. Ninomiya.
05:29It's been a while.
05:32He's a member of the theater at that time.
05:35He's Mr. Kancha Ninomiya.
05:36Hello.
05:39He's a friend of Mr. Kunihiro's since he was a member of the theater at that time.
05:43He's Mr. Ninomiya.
05:45I see.
05:46We meet Tomy about three times a year.
05:50We don't meet often these days.
05:52We meet once.
05:54By the way, it seems that the two of you have an actor as a classmate.
06:00There was our classmate.
06:04Takuma Shin-chan.
06:06He's great, isn't he?
06:08He's tall.
06:10He was a baseball player.
06:12He was good-looking.
06:13Yes, he was.
06:15He was good-looking.
06:17You did a graduation performance, didn't you?
06:20Yes, I did.
06:22It was interesting.
06:24It's a mysterious story.
06:25Even now, the chief of the African tribe goes to buy nuclear bombs to fight the neighboring country.
06:35Yes, that's the story.
06:37It's a mysterious story.
06:39The chief of the African tribe goes to buy nuclear bombs to fight the neighboring country.
06:45The main character of the story is a normal young man.
06:50He was a young man.
06:52Was he?
06:54Anyway, he buys nuclear bombs.
06:57He's handsome.
06:59In fact, Mr. Kunihiro has another place he wants to go.
07:04Golden Gai
07:06It's been a while, hasn't it?
07:08It's been a while.
07:10Golden Gai in Shinjuku.
07:12Yes.
07:14We used to drink here a lot.
07:18Yes.
07:20The atmosphere has changed a lot.
07:24In the past, it was a cheap place like Nagaya.
07:30Yes.
07:33In Kabukicho, Shinjuku, near here, Mr. Kunihiro has a memory of the popular drama, Fuzoroi no Ringo-tachi.
07:42In Fuzoroi no Ringo-tachi, I filmed in Kabukicho, Shinjuku.
07:47It was an interesting scene.
07:50I met Mr. Nakai for the first time.
07:56His name is Hitomi Takahashi.
07:58She is my girlfriend.
08:00He is a strange man.
08:02He told me to get a part-time job in Fuzoroi.
08:04If you want to live with me, let's go 50-50.
08:09You can make money and pay for living expenses.
08:13Then I'll go out with you.
08:16He is a very cool man.
08:20I went to see the store.
08:23When I went home, for the first time,
08:27Mr. Nakai came down the stairs of the Fuzoroi store.
08:34When I went up the stairs,
08:37I met him for the first time.
08:44I see.
08:45I have such a memory.
08:47We say goodbye to Mr. Ninomiya, who made us play a lot of memories of that time.
08:54Let's go back to Shinjuku a little more and think about that time.
08:59Fuzoroi's Ringo-tachi,
09:02Mr. Tokito,
09:04Mr. Yanagisa Shingo,
09:06and Mr. Nakai were men.
09:08They went to Sannryu University.
09:10Many things happened.
09:14At that time, they were almost newcomers.
09:18I didn't have much experience on TV.
09:24At that time, I had been an actor for 3 or 4 years.
09:29I had a lot of jobs.
09:32I was a senior at that time.
09:39At first, Mr. Nakai said,
09:41Mr. Kunihiro, Mr. Kunihiro.
09:44It's amazing.
09:46He also graduated from university and became an actor.
09:51However,
09:53I played Fuzoroi's Ringo-tachi in Part 2 and Part 3.
10:00In Part 1,
10:03I broke Fuzoroi's Ringo-tachi a lot.
10:07So, everyone was very sad.
10:11In Part 3,
10:13everyone was happy.
10:18The screenwriter of the drama Fuzoroi's Ringo-tachi
10:21is Mr. Taichi Yamada,
10:24who sent many popular works such as
10:27Hougen-e Irasshai and Soushun Sketchbook to the world.
10:29Mr. Taichi Yamada's works
10:32had to be told exactly at once
10:35without changing any lines.
10:38The three young actors had a hard time.
10:43They had to act as a director.
10:48It was a very difficult job.
10:52They had a hard time.
10:54However, in Part 3,
10:56everyone became popular.
11:00I had a lot of fun with the director.
11:04On the way to work,
11:07we went out for a drink,
11:09had a party,
11:11and had a barbecue party.
11:14It was a long series.
11:17Other than filming,
11:20we had a party with Fuzoroi's members.
11:25Sometimes, I went there
11:27and had a good time with everyone.
11:34Mr. Kunihiro was living alone
11:37in an apartment in Ochiai near Shinjuku.
11:41Is his apartment still there?
11:44Let's go to see it.
11:48So we came to Ochiai,
11:50where Mr. Kunihiro lived when he was a fairy girl.
11:54I grew up watching TV since I was a child.
12:00When I was in high school,
12:02I went to see a movie with my allowance.
12:05There was a movie called
12:07There is No Tomorrow,
12:09and there was a movie called
12:11Space Trip in 2001.
12:14Mr. Kunihiro's memories
12:16that he admired as an actor
12:18were brought back.
12:21This is the apartment
12:24where I lived.
12:27This is it.
12:29Over there,
12:31there was a building called Midoriso.
12:34I lived in a room in the middle of the second floor.
12:38There was a kitchen on the 6th and 3rd floors,
12:41but there was no bathroom.
12:44At that time, there were many apartments
12:47that didn't have a bathroom.
12:49That's right.
12:51My friend from the theater group
12:54lived in an apartment that didn't have a bathroom.
12:57It was a shared bathroom.
12:59That's the era.
13:01Mr. Kunihiro's memories
13:03that he admired as an actor
13:05were brought back
13:07in front of the apartment where he lived when he was a fairy girl.
13:10We all had a lot of dreams.
13:13Every day,
13:15we had a drink at my apartment.
13:18We drank at a ramen shop.
13:21We all drank together
13:24and talked about our dreams.
13:27Mr. Kunihiro's memories are brought back.
13:31After this,
13:33the shocking debut film,
13:35KISHIME's album,
13:37Memories of Wisdom.
13:39Isn't it amazing?
13:41Mr. Kunihiro and Ms. Takuma
13:43were in the same lab.
13:45They were in the same class.
13:47It was a big deal all over the city.
13:49Mr. Kunihiro is still very cool
13:51when he was young.
13:53He had a lifetime of fame.
13:56He became a hit film
13:58when he starred in the next film.
14:01In fact,
14:03there were a lot of films
14:05that even evolved into culture.
14:08From now on,
14:10I think that
14:12many memorable dramas
14:14will appear
14:16in which Mr. Kunihiro
14:18and Ms. Takuma starred.
14:20Let's go.
14:22Showa Saisei Factory.
14:24Mr. Kunihiro's
14:26Showa drama,
14:28Memories of Wisdom.
14:30After this,
14:32the debut film,
14:34KISHIME's album,
14:36Memories of Wisdom.
14:38We're at Izumitamagawa.
14:41This Izumitamagawa
14:43is the place
14:45where I made my debut
14:47when I starred
14:49in the film
14:51KISHIME's album.
14:54KISHIME's album,
14:56starring Kaoru Yachigusa,
14:58aired in 1952.
15:01This film gave a big shock
15:03to the Japanese drama world
15:05that depicted the collapse
15:07and rebirth of the family
15:09in the middle-class family
15:11living next to Tamagawa.
15:13Izumitamagawa,
15:16what kind of memories
15:18will be brought back here?
15:21At that time,
15:23Jun Fubuki,
15:25my girlfriend,
15:27was working part-time
15:29at MOS BURGER.
15:31I've been here once.
15:33However,
15:35most of MOS BURGER
15:37was done in the studio.
15:39Mr. Arai, Jun Fubuki,
15:41and three young people.
15:43Before the KISHIME album
15:45was released,
15:47three talented producers
15:49from TBS
15:51trained us
15:53how to act
15:55on TV.
15:57They taught us
15:59how to act
16:01on TV.
16:03They taught us
16:05how to act
16:07in a fairy tale.
16:09They taught us
16:11how to act
16:13in a fairy tale.
16:15Mr. Kunihiro,
16:17who was chosen
16:19as the son of
16:21the national actor
16:23Kaoru Yachigusa.
16:25What kind of person
16:27was Mr. Yachigusa
16:29to you?
16:31At that time,
16:33he was a big star
16:35and
16:37very cute.
16:39When I met him for the first time,
16:41he said,
16:43Mr. Kunihiro,
16:45nice to meet you.
16:47He had a kind voice.
16:49It was as if
16:51Mr. Yachigusa,
16:53the actor,
16:55had just appeared
16:57on TV.
16:59Mr. Kaoru Yachigusa
17:01was asked by TBS
17:03to play the role of
17:05Noriko Tajima.
17:07Mr. Kaoru Yachigusa said
17:09he couldn't play the role
17:11of Noriko Tajima.
17:13At first,
17:15Mr. Kaoru Yachigusa
17:17refused to play the role.
17:19After the work was completed,
17:21Mr. Kaoru Yachigusa
17:23said,
17:25I'm glad
17:27I met you.
17:29A few minutes
17:31away from this station,
17:33there was a Tajima family.
17:35At first glance,
17:37they looked happy.
17:39Actually,
17:41each of them had
17:43complicated worries.
17:45Let's go to the place
17:47where the story of the family
17:49began.
17:51Mr. Kunihiro
17:53was playing the role of his son.
17:55He went to Tamagawa,
17:57where the Tajima family lives.
17:59When I was cast
18:01for the first time,
18:03my manager told me
18:05to read a novel
18:07called
18:09Kishibe no Album.
18:11It was a
18:13newspaper novel
18:15serialized
18:17little by little
18:19every day
18:21in the Tokyo Newspaper.
18:23I went to the library
18:25of Yotsuya
18:27and asked
18:29them to give me
18:31their phone numbers.
18:33As I was reading,
18:35I was glad
18:37that I got the role,
18:39but I didn't know
18:41that I could play
18:43such a difficult role.
18:45In a small suburb of Tokyo,
18:47there were four families
18:49who looked really happy.
18:51Mr. Shigeru was
18:53a storyteller,
18:55so to speak.
18:57He told me
18:59that his mother
19:01was cheating on him,
19:03and that his sister
19:05was pregnant
19:07because she was
19:09cheated on by a foreigner.
19:11He told me
19:13all of this
19:15in front of his family.
19:19At the same time,
19:23the Tajima family
19:25was in trouble
19:27because the family
19:29was being swept away.
19:33At the same time,
19:35the family was
19:37about to collapse,
19:39and the house
19:41was about to collapse
19:43and be swept away.
19:45I wondered
19:47what would happen
19:49to the family.
19:51As the Tamagawa River
19:53approached,
19:55the scene
19:57where the Tamagawa River
19:59collapsed
20:01and the house
20:03was being swept away
20:05was played
20:07every time
20:09with the theme song.
20:11It was like
20:13watching a live performance.
20:15I wondered
20:17how Tony felt
20:19when he saw
20:21his house being swept away
20:23by the Tamagawa River.
20:25It was very painful.
20:27We were shooting
20:29the scene
20:31where the house
20:33was being swept away,
20:35but at night,
20:37there was a curfew
20:39and we were not allowed
20:41to leave the house
20:43until 10 or 20 minutes
20:45before the house
20:47collapsed.
20:49At that time,
20:51I said,
20:53please let me
20:55redecorate the house.
20:57He said,
20:59stop it.
21:01I said,
21:03let's go home
21:05and say hello
21:07to the family.
21:09I cried a lot
21:11and asked the police
21:13to take the album
21:15and leave
21:17the house
21:19with the album
21:21and say thank you
21:23to the family.
21:25They made a lot of
21:27fun memories
21:29and left
21:31the house
21:33with the album.
21:35It's a place
21:37where you can
21:39make a lot of memories.
21:41It's really sad,
21:43but Naoki Sugiura,
21:45Kaoru Yachibusa,
21:47the 15-year anniversary
21:49is long
21:51or short,
21:53but a lot of things
21:55happen.
21:57Mr. Yachibusa
21:59who played for the first time
22:01in Kishibe's album
22:03and treated him
22:05like a real mother.
22:07He once showed
22:09an unexpected side.
22:11In the work
22:13called Atsui Aki,
22:15there was a scene
22:17where this quiet
22:19Mr. Yachibusa
22:21had a performance
22:23that didn't
22:25go down well.
22:27Usually, he's kind
22:29and accepts
22:31almost everything
22:33the director says,
22:35but at that time,
22:37he hit the drum
22:39on the table
22:41and said,
22:43I was moved.
22:45I wonder
22:47if the kind Mr. Yachibusa
22:49can be so strongly
22:51criticized.
22:53I was thinking
22:55that he is an actress
22:57who has been doing
22:59a long time
23:01from the treasure house
23:03and has come
23:05up a little.
23:07In addition,
23:09Naoki Sugiura
23:11and other popular works.
23:13This is what he had to say about Mr. Taichi Yamada.
23:19Mr. Taichi Yamada doesn't come to the studio very often,
23:23so we didn't get to interact much.
23:25I'm a painter, and I also draw.
23:29When I first opened my studio,
23:32Mr. Taichi Yamada had published a lot of novels.
23:37In one of his novels,
23:39the protagonist is called out by someone he doesn't know at all.
23:43He gets a letter.
23:45The letter says,
23:47I'm waiting for you in the back alleys of Ginza.
23:55Please come and see me.
24:00When I opened the exhibition,
24:03it wasn't fun to just invite people to come and see me.
24:08So I used that one line,
24:11and changed the date and place of the invitation.
24:16And then, he came.
24:19At that time,
24:21it was the first time we talked for about 30 minutes.
24:26We don't talk much about dramas or work,
24:31but we talk about movies,
24:34or what other actors are doing now.
24:38It's like exchanging information,
24:41but we talked for about 30 minutes.
24:45He has a lot of memories with Mr. Taichi Yamada.
24:49In Shinjuku, where we went earlier,
24:51Mr. Yamada was talking about the unassembled apples in his novel.
24:56Mr. Taichi Yamada's books are really interesting.
25:01Each line has a deep meaning.
25:06One day, Mr. Nakai comes to my apartment.
25:12Before he comes back,
25:15we have a scene where we drink together.
25:18Mr. Nakai says,
25:22and we go to a bar.
25:28We get a little tipsy.
25:31Alcohol is interesting, isn't it?
25:34It changes people's minds,
25:38as if the poison is spreading little by little.
25:42It makes you want to tell the truth.
25:46It's like that.
25:48There was a scene where a young man
25:51was being bullied by a young woman.
25:57It was interesting.
26:00After this,
26:01the red series, Akai Kizuna,
26:03will play a scene with Mr. Momoya Yamaguchi.
26:06In addition,
26:07this is the first scene where Tomi and Matsu meet.
26:12the rumored detective Tomi and Matsu's secret story.
26:17What are you doing?
26:21Mr. Shigeru Matsuzaki also appears.
26:25When Mr. Momoya comes,
26:27I get excited.
26:29It's like I'm in front of Osatsuzo.
26:32If I don't meet Matsu...
26:38Mr. Kunihiro,
26:40this is his debut film.
26:42He's a great actor.
26:44Mr. Naoki Sugiura is a great actor.
26:47Ms. Yoshiko Nakada is also a great actor.
26:50It's his debut film.
26:52I think it was a film with a lot of pressure.
26:58But everyone's debut film is one in a lifetime.
27:02You can't forget this for the rest of your life.
27:05And Mr. Kunihiro,
27:06in this film,
27:07he really runs up to Stardom like a comet.
27:11He has a lot of experience.
27:13He has a lot of memories.
27:15I think that's why he can talk so passionately.
27:19It's a special experience to be able to talk about your memories
27:24while putting yourself in the place of your memories.
27:29That's right.
27:30It's more memorable than talking in the studio.
27:35There seems to be more to the VTR.
27:39I think we'll be able to hear a lot of stories
27:42about Mr. Kunihiro's drama,
27:44which is about to reach its golden age.
27:48I'm looking forward to the back of the drama.
27:50And what kind of blood of memories will come out.
27:52Now, let's get started.
27:54Showa Saisei Factory
27:57Tomiaki Kunihiro's Showa's masterpiece drama,
28:00Memories Travel.
28:03Next, the sixth installment of the popular drama,
28:05Red Series.
28:07A memory of red blood.
28:10This is my second drama.
28:14And in the Red Series,
28:17I played the role of Momoe Yamaguchi.
28:24And this is Yoyogi-Hachiman.
28:30There was a shooting at this Yoyogi-Hachiman shrine.
28:36Momoe Yamaguchi, Tomokazu Miura, and Ken Utsui
28:40co-starred in Red Series, which is very popular.
28:45The sixth installment,
28:47Red Kizuna, aired in 1952.
28:51It has the highest average viewing rate in the Red Series.
28:55It has a record of 29.5%.
28:57At that time,
29:00every work in the Red Series
29:04had a great viewing rate.
29:05It was about 20 to 30 percent.
29:09When I thought,
29:11I can be in that work,
29:14I was so happy.
29:17And I was so happy
29:21that I could play the role of the idol singer,
29:24Momoe Yamaguchi,
29:26who I always watch on TV.
29:29But it was a very hard work.
29:36At that time,
29:38it was normal to shoot 26 videos in 6 months.
29:43When I shot those 26 videos,
29:47the deadline was approaching,
29:50and I had to start shooting next week.
29:54Sometimes I barely shot it.
29:57I'm sure Mr. Funagoshi has experienced it,
30:02but it's like a train to hell.
30:05At 6 a.m.,
30:07we start shooting,
30:08and at 7 or 8 p.m.,
30:10the camera is turned off.
30:12Then we shoot until 12, 1 or 2 p.m.,
30:16and we can go home.
30:18Sometimes we have to go to the next location.
30:25Normally, Mr. Momoe doesn't go to the next location.
30:28That's right.
30:29He comes back in the middle of the night after the show is over.
30:32At this shrine,
30:34I shot a video at a very late time.
30:39We arrived at the main shrine.
30:43What kind of memories will be revived
30:45at this Yoyogi Hachimangu?
30:49Many people ask me,
30:51whether I'm a woman or a man,
30:54because I used to be a teacher.
30:57But when I go to the waiting room or the studio,
31:01I usually stay in the same room
31:03and spend a little time together.
31:05I often talk about various things during that time.
31:11I have an aura of a Bodhisattva.
31:17That's exactly what I feel.
31:20I have an aura of kindness.
31:23I'm 24 years old.
31:27Mr. Momoe is 20 years old,
31:29so he's four years younger than me.
31:32But when I stand in front of the camera
31:34or perform in the studio,
31:38he's older than me.
31:43I have a big aura.
31:45When I'm in the waiting room,
31:47I feel like I'm talking to a junior high school girl.
31:54She's a strange person.
31:58She has an aura that I want to cherish.
32:05I want to talk to actresses, singers,
32:14but when I stand in front of Mr. Momoe,
32:19I feel like I'm talking to a Bodhisattva.
32:22I feel like I'm talking to a Bodhisattva.
32:30Mr. Momoe's schedule is very tight.
32:34There used to be a singing program called
32:38Yamaguchi Momoe.
32:41Of course, Mr. Momoe is a regular there.
32:45His schedule is very tight.
32:47He has to shoot at the last minute.
32:53He decided to do a live broadcast in the neighborhood.
32:58He stopped shooting.
33:00He was given 80,000 yen from the studio.
33:05From there, Mr. Momoe sings his usual song
33:10in Shibuya.
33:13Old music programs are common.
33:16Akina-chan sings at the airport.
33:20I have a lot of memories of the red series,
33:26but I would like to go to the place where
33:30Tomii and Matsu's memories are stored.
33:35Let's go.
33:37After this, let's go to Shibuya,
33:40where the rumored detective Tomii and Matsu's memories are stored.
33:44Shigeru Matsuzaki, a partner of Tomii and Matsu,
33:48appears.
33:49This is the scene of the popular drama
33:51that can be talked about now.
33:53It's full of precious stories.
33:56Tomiyuki Kunihiro's famous drama
33:59Memory Replay.
34:01Next, let's go to the place where Tomii and Matsu's memories are stored,
34:05where Kunihiro met his eternal partner.
34:10I came to Shibuya,
34:12the place where Tomii and Matsu's memories are stored.
34:15Rumored detective Tomii and Matsu,
34:18broadcast from 1954 to 1957.
34:22It is a detective drama that portrays the activities of Tomii,
34:26who has a strong sense of humor,
34:28and Matsu, who is a little reckless,
34:30who is a little timid.
34:34Sometimes I was shooting in Shibuya.
34:37However, this is the first scene
34:40where Tomii and Matsu meet.
34:43This is in front of the Shibuya police station in Shibuya.
34:48There is a pedestrian bridge that surrounds 246 and spreads in four directions.
34:53Tomii and Matsu pass each other there,
34:57and when they hear the voice of help,
35:00they both say,
35:01We are detectives!
35:02and start running.
35:04From the point where they chase one criminal,
35:08the two get entangled.
35:10So, in this city of Shibuya,
35:14the two run and run and run around.
35:18So,
35:21here!
35:22This is Shibuya River.
35:24Tomii and Matsu chase the criminal on this Shibuya River
35:29and run while spraying water.
35:34I shot a scene where Tomii and Matsu
35:38slipped on a small puddle and held the criminal down while spraying water.
35:43This is how the rumored detective Tomii and Matsu began.
35:47What was their impression of each other,
35:50who were active in different genres?
35:53The producer said,
35:55Tomii!
35:56Can you do it?
35:57Can you do it?
35:58He said,
36:00I brought the script of Tomii and Matsu,
36:03and he gave it to me.
36:05On the way home,
36:06I read the script of Tomii and Matsu.
36:09I laughed out loud while reading the script.
36:14When I was reading the script,
36:17I had a lot of ideas.
36:20I had a lot of fun with these two stupid people.
36:26The next day, I called them right away and said,
36:28I'll do it.
36:29Let me do it.
36:30Please.
36:31I contacted them right away.
36:34That's how it started.
36:36They asked me if I knew Shigeru Matsuzaki.
36:41I said, yes, I know him.
36:43I like his songs.
36:45That's what I said.
36:46I was wondering what it would be like for a singer to act in a play.
36:53I thought he was just a dark-skinned person.
36:57The first time I said hello to Matsuzaki,
37:03there was a studio in Nakagawara.
37:08I heard Matsuzaki's voice echoing in the studio.
37:14I said, good morning.
37:18He said, nice to meet you. I'm Matsuzaki.
37:21I farted twice.
37:30And it was a nice sound.
37:32It's not just the voice.
37:34It's a nice sound.
37:36Even the fart is a nice sound.
37:38We often go to ramen restaurants and Chinese restaurants near the studio.
37:46The first thing they order is stir-fried Chinese chives, gyoza, and ramen with a lot of garlic.
37:54We eat it every day.
37:56Matsuzaki changes it to gas.
37:58I change it to energy.
38:01We filmed all night long.
38:06We asked Matsuko and Shigeru Matsuzaki about their story.
38:11When we were talking to each other,
38:14I asked Matsuzaki if he could act.
38:18He said, you rude bastard.
38:22I said, what are you talking about?
38:24He said, I can't.
38:28Kunihiro is a man who says things straight.
38:37He came to see me, but when the third episode was over,
38:43he asked me to come to his house.
38:48There were seven young girls in my house.
38:52He said, Kunihiro is coming today.
38:54I said, make something delicious.
38:57Kunihiro came to my house.
38:59He said, it's interesting.
39:02He often comes to my house.
39:04Since then, we've been living together.
39:09Rather than being business partners,
39:12Tomi and Matsu, the clumsy duo,
39:16spent a lot of time together and understood each other.
39:23Even if Asaki couldn't act,
39:26I think he was interested in Tomi.
39:32Tomi and Matsu, the comedy duo,
39:35were a rare sight for a detective drama at the time.
39:38Kunihiro was particularly impressed by the filming of a scene.
39:44There was a scene where the two were arguing.
39:50Do you remember?
39:51Tomi rented a house.
39:55Tomi dug a hole in the ground and buried the two alive.
40:00I can't forget that scene.
40:03Also,
40:05Hidate said, Tomi and Matsu,
40:09find the evidence.
40:11The two of them were looking for the evidence.
40:16A mouse came floating.
40:19They were wearing long shoes.
40:23A mouse was floating around here.
40:26Strange things were floating.
40:29I didn't like that.
40:32I think Matsu was in a worse place.
40:37I'm glad I didn't go in there.
40:40Tomi and Matsu did a lot of hard work.
40:44Why do I have to be buried in the ground?
40:50I don't know if I'll be buried or jump into the pond.
40:54It's all about that.
40:57There's a video I took at Dama store at that time.
41:03Now in Shibuya,
41:05at Sukunanbu intersection.
41:08I was filming from the top of a building.
41:14I had a black body there.
41:17I was covered in mud.
41:20It was cold in February.
41:23There was a sub-director.
41:26I couldn't communicate with him.
41:29When the next signal changes, Matsu, please.
41:33Yes, I understand.
41:35Ready, set, go!
41:38Matsuri! Matsuri! Matsuri!
41:42I was dancing.
41:45I was so embarrassed.
41:50I didn't want to say it again.
41:54If I hadn't decided in one shot,
41:57I would have come to the park and said,
42:01Please give it back to me.
42:06I didn't want to do it anymore.
42:10But it's interesting.
42:12When a person does something embarrassing
42:19that makes you blush,
42:21it's a great pleasure.
42:25It makes me laugh.
42:28Tomi and Matsu became popular
42:31thanks to Kunihiro and Matsuzaki's dubbing.
42:35It's been 45 years since the broadcast,
42:38so they have something in common.
42:41Tomi and Matsu are eternal partners.
42:47It's a strange fate.
42:53If I hadn't met Matsu,
42:57I think my life would have been narrowed.
43:03I'm just an actor,
43:06and I'm also a friend of his.
43:10We're in the same entertainment business,
43:14but I work with a singer.
43:18We have a lot in common.
43:21I learned a lot from him.
43:24I learned a lot about the entertainment business
43:28and the singing business from him.
43:31He's my senior,
43:33so if he tells me to turn right,
43:36I have to turn right.
43:38He's a funny guy.
43:40He made me laugh a lot.
43:43But the most fun thing
43:47I've had with Matsuzaki
43:50is my private life.
43:53When I was invited to a party,
43:57I went to a bar at night.
44:01I saw Matsu having fun,
44:04and I was like,
44:06is this really okay?
44:09He taught me a lot of interesting things.
44:12Can you tell us more about that?
44:14Matsu doesn't like to be lonely,
44:17so when I go home,
44:19I see my staff, my friends,
44:22and my girlfriend.
44:24They're all there.
44:26They're there every day.
44:28Even if Matsu isn't there,
44:30they're having fun at home.
44:32He taught me a lot of fun things,
44:38and the entertainment business expanded.
44:43After that,
44:46I did 106 films in 3 years.
44:52I've been re-broadcasted many times.
44:55I have a lot of impressions
44:58from all ages.
45:01So Tomi and Matsu
45:04are inseparable.
45:07They're my masterpiece.
45:11They're a perfect combination
45:14between Tomi and Matsu.
45:19What does Matsu think now?
45:23It's my treasure to be able
45:26to make a drama with him.
45:30When I was making music,
45:32Kunihiro was doing this and that,
45:36and I was doing this and that.
45:38It was all about music.
45:41When it comes to acting,
45:43he's the one who says,
45:45I see,
45:47and I use that idea.
45:50In a way,
45:52he's my junior,
45:54but I respect him a lot,
45:57and I acknowledge him.
46:00I don't know if it's the right word,
46:03but I respect him a lot.
46:07The fact that he's an expert
46:10and that we were able to work together
46:13is a great asset.
46:15If I were to be called in a drama,
46:19that would be the foundation.
46:23I don't think there's anyone
46:27who has spent their youth
46:31like me.
46:35Today was a memorable day
46:37in the history of the Meisaku drama.
46:40Kunihiro, what was Showa like for you?
46:45For me,
46:47Showa was a time
46:50full of energy and excitement.
46:53I made my debut in the mid-1950s,
46:57and it's been about 10 years
47:00since then.
47:02I was so excited,
47:04and I jumped into the world
47:07I had dreamed of.
47:09I've been dreaming
47:11about Showa for 10 years.
47:14I feel like I was living
47:17in a dream world.
47:19I have so many good memories.
47:22Tomii and Matsu.
47:24I can't wait to see it.
47:26It's going to be so much fun.
47:28I'm definitely going to watch it.
47:30It's so different from your image.
47:32You used to be a young man
47:34with a shadow,
47:36or a refreshing young man.
47:38It's completely different.
47:40It's slapstick comedy.
47:42It's comedy.
47:44Kunihiro, you said
47:46that Showa was a time
47:48full of energy.
47:50Now that I think about it,
47:52I think it was a time
47:54full of energy.
47:56Yes, it was.
47:58He was one of the actors
48:00who made a great impact
48:02in the end of the 90s.
48:04He was one of the actors
48:06who made a great impact
48:08in the end of the 90s.
48:10He's been blessed
48:12with so many great works,
48:14and he has so many
48:16great works.
48:18And he's still
48:20doing great.
48:22Yes.
48:24After this,
48:26we'll play the broken jukebox.
48:32Next time,
48:34we'll play the broken jukebox
48:36that's been sleeping for 40 years
48:38because of Showa's pureness.
48:44We'll play the broken jukebox
48:46that's been sleeping for 40 years
48:48because of Showa's pureness.
48:50We want to protect you.
48:54Looking forward to...
49:06More freedom to love.
49:08PS12 Duellaby