مدي 1 تي في : تطورات الأوضاع في قطاع غزة - 18/11/2024
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00:00Welcome, dear viewers, to this new episode of Al-Masaa Talk, which is dedicated to the
00:15developments of the situation related to the war in the Gaza Strip, as the Israeli bombing
00:21did not cease in the last hours in Jabalia and Bethlehem, north of Gaza Strip, in addition
00:26to the Al-Brij camps in the middle of the Strip and the two cities of Khan Yunus and Rafah
00:31in the south, which led to the killing and injury of more than 100 Palestinians, and
00:36which left the Israeli attacks in ruins and destruction in the targeted civilian sites.
00:41This comes at a time when the armed Palestinian factions continue their operations, as the
00:46Al-Qassam Armored Troops of the Hamas Movement announced their target of transporting soldiers
00:51to the Gaza Strip and Jarrafa to the Israeli army.
00:56The Al-Quds Brigade, the armed wing of the Islamic Jihad Movement, also engaged in
01:01fierce clashes with the Israeli occupation forces in the west of Bethlehem.
01:06In response to the international reaction, the New York Security Council is preparing
01:11to vote on a decision to stop firing in the Gaza Strip in light of a discussion between
01:16its members, in order to find a convincing way to avoid raising the US veto, which is
01:21the fourth since the outbreak of the Gaza Strip war in October last year.
01:26And to discuss this topic, I am pleased to welcome here in the studio Mr. Hassan
01:31al-Qartit, the author and researcher in international relations.
01:36Greetings to you, Mr. Hassan al-Qartit.
01:41Greetings to you, Mr. Hassan al-Qartit.
01:44From Ramallah, we have Mr. Tahseen Yaqeen, the author and political analyst.
01:49Welcome, Mr. Tahseen Yaqeen.
01:52Welcome.
01:55I am also pleased to welcome Mr. Mohammed al-Yamani, Deputy Chairman of the Department
02:00of Arab and International Affairs at the Saoud Zaid Center.
02:04Welcome, dear guests.
02:07Greetings to you.
02:09Greetings to you, Mr. Yamani.
02:11I will start with you, Mr. Al-Hassan.
02:14We are approaching the tenth day after the 400th day of the Gaza Strip war.
02:21This question always arises and I may have repeated it hundreds of times.
02:26Until when will this bloodshed continue in the Gaza Strip?
02:31First, greetings to the viewers of Median TV.
02:34I must admit that there is a political backdrop in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
02:41Let me say that you referred to the destruction that followed Gaza and the destruction of the
02:46infrastructure and to a very heavy loss on the level of human losses.
02:51More than 43,000 Palestinian martyrs and more than 100,000 Palestinian wounded.
02:56In any case, it is one of the worst war crimes committed in modern history.
03:02Let me say that there is no political backdrop in this conflict.
03:07There are backdrops that should be admitted, especially during the period between the
03:12announcement of the results of the US election to the date of the new president.
03:17This period, to be honest, is a big political gap in the Palestinian cause,
03:23given that the priorities of the White House are outside this conflict, of course.
03:31At the same time, it should be admitted that even inside the Security Council,
03:36in the absence of the US role, it is not possible to talk about issuing a decision
03:41to immediately stop the fire, especially since there is a clear indication that
03:46the US decision has been withdrawn.
03:48I will return to this point, Mr. Al-Hassan.
03:50I will return to you and follow you, Mr. Al-Yamani from Cairo.
03:57In your opinion, there is talk of negotiations for a threat.
04:03Is there a real opportunity to achieve this threat, in your opinion?
04:09Unfortunately, Mr. Sidi, I have left more than once and I was with you directly
04:16when you told us about this matter.
04:18We said that this matter, the real dilemma, is either on the right or on the left.
04:25This paper is used by Benjamin Netanyahu from time to time,
04:29especially the paper on the liberation of the refugee camps,
04:34and then also the ceasefire, whether temporarily or for short periods of time,
04:41for example, two weeks or three weeks, or even a month.
04:46This is also on the one hand.
04:48On the other hand, Benjamin Netanyahu, unfortunately,
04:50especially over the course of a whole year,
04:52has not achieved the declared goals or even other than destroying the infrastructure.
04:57He told us about these things a lot.
04:59But the new thing is also the arrival of Donald Trump to the United States,
05:04which will also help spread and will also help with everything given by force.
05:11He also supports Benjamin Netanyahu internally and externally,
05:14and at all levels.
05:16Therefore, the war on the Gaza Strip continues.
05:19And as we know, Donald Trump's statement in the previous era
05:24that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel,
05:26as well as a very important statement,
05:28that is, he also did not recognize the Palestinian state,
05:32as well as the solution of the two states.
05:34All these indicators, as well as over the course of a whole year,
05:38we have seen more than one proposal,
05:40both by the United States occasionally and by Egypt occasionally,
05:45but all of them failed.
05:48Why?
05:49Because Benjamin Netanyahu is not with the ceasefire at all.
05:53Even Mr. Al-Karim, the opposing Israeli mediators,
05:57or even those who support Benjamin Netanyahu,
06:00also exceed 95%.
06:02They also support what is now being done in the strip,
06:05and the continuation of the entry into the Gaza Strip.
06:08There is a point, Mr. Yemeni, if you allow me.
06:11On the field.
06:13Yes, on the field, and I turn to Mr. Tahseen Yaqeen.
06:17On the field, we followed videos of resistance factions
06:23from the north of the Gaza Strip,
06:25and they are active and carry out daily operations.
06:29In your opinion, did the military approach adopted by Netanyahu succeed?
06:36May God bless you.
06:39In the last period, dozens of our people were killed in Gaza,
06:48and in northern Gaza in particular.
06:50Today, the focus of the Zionists is on destruction and killing.
06:54The truth is that whenever the aggression continued on the Gaza Strip
06:59and on the north of the Gaza Strip in particular,
07:02this means more destruction.
07:05This also means, and we do not know to what extent this is true,
07:11that the resistance in northern Gaza is decreasing.
07:20Now the resistance is not in the same situation as it was in the past.
07:25This is what the military authorities, the Gaza army,
07:31are betting on the weakening of the resistance until the last moment,
07:35and the weakening of our people and the destruction of a large part of Gaza
07:39to create a real situation in northern Gaza.
07:42We should also never forget that the main goal of the war
07:49that was declared on Gaza,
07:51and a goal that was not officially declared in Israel,
07:54was to destroy the West Bank.
07:57We have a war here in the West Bank,
07:59where we are now between the West Bank and the West Bank,
08:02between what the right-wing extremist government is doing,
08:08and the actions of the Minister of Finance,
08:14in the occupation government,
08:16on the ground here in the West Bank.
08:19The West Bank and the West Bank are the American proposals
08:23that are difficult to achieve in Palestine.
08:26Therefore, what we are facing in the occupied Palestine,
08:31in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank,
08:34is pushing Israel and the Palestinian people,
08:37and their various leaderships,
08:39from the national and Islamic factions,
08:41to surrender.
08:43This is the bottom line.
08:45Mr. Yemeni, I return to you in Cairo.
08:49The president of the Israeli leaders,
08:51Al-Shabak and Al-Mosad,
08:53have all agreed that the Hamas movement
08:56will not give up on its conditions,
08:58which are the complete withdrawal from the Gaza Strip,
09:02and the permanent ceasefire.
09:04On the other hand, there are ministers,
09:06Smotrich, Benkfeir and Sa'ar,
09:08who are now participating in meetings with Netanyahu,
09:11to resolve the situation,
09:13or perhaps to find a way to calm us down.
09:17In your opinion, will we find a cure?
09:22Unfortunately, Mr. Al-Karim,
09:24this matter has nothing to do with optimism or pessimism.
09:27But it also has nothing to do with evidence and facts,
09:30throughout the year, by Benyamin Netanyahu,
09:32and also by the Israeli War Council.
09:36More than once,
09:37they have also responded to the ceasefire,
09:39and they have also responded to discussions and negotiations,
09:42whether in Doha or in Cairo.
09:46There was also anger on both sides,
09:49Qatar and Egypt,
09:51because of what Benyamin Netanyahu did,
09:53throughout the year.
09:54These messages were reached to the US administration,
09:58led by Joe Biden,
10:00and also Anthony Blinken.
10:02But we also know that the US administration,
10:04the Jewish League, and the United States
10:06are with the Israeli occupation,
10:08and that this delay,
10:10and this delay by the Israeli occupation,
10:12is also part of Benyamin Netanyahu's plan,
10:15and also part of the negotiations.
10:17Because I see that the negotiations are for the sake of negotiations,
10:20not more than that.
10:21This is also from another side.
10:23He was also waiting for Donald Trump to come,
10:26so everything that is now being negotiated,
10:29and talks about negotiations and talks,
10:32except if one point,
10:34Mr. Karim,
10:35as your guest also mentioned from Ramallah,
10:37was cut from the first line,
10:39after January or January 20,
10:41next year, 2025,
10:43we will see the signs of this war,
10:46on the Gaza Strip,
10:48as well as on the West Bank,
10:49and also on Lebanon.
10:51But unfortunately, Mr. Karim,
10:53this war will not end at this time,
10:56or even in the next year,
10:58unless the two administrations are achieved,
11:00or the US administration,
11:01led by Donald Trump,
11:02who does not have,
11:03or does not have followers,
11:04by the deep state,
11:05or even by the Jewish League,
11:07because it is the second era,
11:09for Donald Trump to continue as well.
11:11Because as we know,
11:12he is a man who takes decisions,
11:14second by second,
11:15and decisions,
11:16Mr. Yemen, it is clear,
11:17and he is also strongly supported,
11:20by Yemen and Netanyahu,
11:21in everything that is being done now,
11:22in the Gaza Strip.
11:23But, finally, Mr. Karim,
11:25regarding the Hamas movement,
11:26the Hamas movement,
11:27has made a very strong impact,
11:29over the past 17 or 18 months,
11:32whether for Cairo,
11:33the Middle East,
11:34as well as for Doha,
11:37and some of the leaders,
11:38even the United States,
11:40are aware of this,
11:41but as we know,
11:42there is a double standard,
11:44for all things,
11:45even in these talks.
11:47I will return to the point of the solution,
11:49in Gaza,
11:50and the solution in Yemen.
11:51To you, Mr. Yemeni,
11:52but I will turn to Mr. Al-Hassan al-Qartiyat.
11:54There is a prominent responsibility,
11:56for the international community,
11:58to stop this disintegration,
11:59in the Gaza Strip,
12:00and there is also a decision,
12:03for the Security Council,
12:05that is expected to issue,
12:07how do you expect,
12:08the decision of the Security Council,
12:11especially,
12:12that there is news,
12:13that the term,
12:14of the immediate ceasefire,
12:16and the permanent ceasefire,
12:17was withdrawn,
12:18and the decision was withdrawn,
12:19from the seventh bond,
12:21in the Security Council.
12:22Let me say,
12:23that the international community,
12:24is the one,
12:25who is responsible,
12:26for closing the political horizon,
12:27for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,
12:28considering,
12:29that this community,
12:31is still watching,
12:32in front of Benjamin Netanyahu,
12:34with the political decision.
12:35The community, Mr. Al-Hassan,
12:36do you mean Washington?
12:37No,
12:38I am talking about the international community,
12:39in general,
12:40and of course,
12:41what is called,
12:42the Washington Peace Council,
12:43considering,
12:44that Benjamin Netanyahu,
12:45imposed a political decision,
12:46regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,
12:48and considering,
12:49that the United States,
12:50of course,
12:51and there is a clear alliance,
12:52with Israel,
12:53through the political support,
12:54and the military support,
12:55and the financial support,
12:56for Israel,
12:57was the one,
12:58who is responsible,
12:59for the weakening,
13:00first,
13:01of the Palestinian national authority,
13:02in the implementation,
13:03of all the agreements,
13:04agreements,
13:05and agreements,
13:06the negotiations,
13:07since the agreement,
13:08Gaza-Washington,
13:09Gaza-Ariha,
13:10first,
13:11since the agreement,
13:12until the year,
13:131999,
13:14to the borders,
13:15to the borders,
13:16now,
13:17as well as,
13:18the United States,
13:19which ignored,
13:20the understanding,
13:21of the Jewish state,
13:22which was destroyed,
13:23by Benjamin Netanyahu,
13:24in the Israeli constitution,
13:25and,
13:26of course,
13:27despite,
13:28the commitment,
13:29of the Palestinian national authority,
13:30to the Dayton agreement,
13:31the security Dayton agreement,
13:32in the West Bank,
13:33and therefore,
13:34we ask the question,
13:35what are the limits,
13:36of these negotiations,
13:37and,
13:38what are the negotiations,
13:39that are being talked about,
13:40especially,
13:41and as you said,
13:42the Palestinian national authority,
13:43was weakened,
13:44the Gaza sector was destroyed,
13:45and we know well,
13:46that the Palestinian factions,
13:47at the level of the sector,
13:48are holding,
13:49and preserving,
13:50the fighting power,
13:51despite,
13:52all the reports,
13:53that Benjamin Netanyahu,
13:54publishes,
13:55and let me say,
13:56even in the words,
13:57that Benjamin Netanyahu,
13:58said,
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