Donald Trump’s re-election sparks discussions on its global and domestic implications. In an exclusive interview, author Sara Sadhwani shared insights with Oneindia’s Prerna Sandilya, exploring potential geopolitical shifts and America’s future under Trump’s leadership. The conversation delves into how his policies may influence international relations and domestic priorities over the next four years. Watch the interview for detailed analysis on Trump’s second term and its worldwide impact.
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00:00We shall see what is in store for Kamala Harris, while she didn't make it to that top slot.
00:07It's not unheard of for legislators to ultimately go and seek another office somewhere else.
00:13Clearly, there's some split-ticket voting as well that's going on, so much to unpack
00:19in the coming months, and no doubt a whole lot of soul-searching for Democrats moving
00:24forward.
00:25Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket was unable to garner that support.
00:29Now, is that going to be something that's going on for some time, if this is a new trend?
00:34Or was it something just to do with Kamala Harris, or the fact that there wasn't a primary?
00:43Hello, I'm Prerna Shandil and I've been joined by Sara Sardwani, an assistant professor of
00:47politics at Pomona College in Southern California.
00:51She's also a senior researcher at AAPI Data, a group that provides information about Asian
00:57Americans.
00:58Welcome, Sara.
00:59Thanks so much for having me.
01:00Now, Sara, the one question that's on everyone's mind is that how the next four years are going
01:05to unfold, now that President-elect Donald Trump has already started making his cabinet
01:10appointments.
01:11And it's very evident that he prefers loyalty over experience.
01:18So what do you think of the next four years of Trump era, now that they have a supermajority?
01:23They have a House, the Senate, and of course, the Oval Office.
01:26Yeah, that's right.
01:28And having all of those branches of government, we would often refer to as unified government.
01:33And in such an instance, there's not much of a check from the other party, from the
01:38Democrats on the president's agenda.
01:41So he will have full steam ahead to advance his agenda, which appears he has a very clear
01:49mandate from the American people.
01:52It was a very solid victory for Donald Trump.
01:57He has made a lot of promises throughout the campaign cycle.
02:00We shall see which ones of those he actually wants to advance or what happens in that first
02:07hundred days of the presidency.
02:09I have to note, though, I think an interesting development just this week, the Senate, Republicans,
02:14of course, hold the majority there and choose the Senate majority leader.
02:19And just this week, they elected John Thune, largely seen as an institutionalist.
02:26Really the protege of Mitch McConnell, who gave some pushback to the last Trump administration.
02:35They weren't exactly best of friends.
02:38So that came as a bit of a surprise to some who saw the Trump administration asking them
02:45to support instead Rick Scott, who's really seen as a loyalist to Donald Trump.
02:49So much to be seen whether or not some of those more establishment Republicans within
02:54the Senate, as well as within the House of Representatives, they have not been immune
02:58to turmoil amongst their own ranks as well over the last several years.
03:03So to what extent there will be some pushback towards the president's agenda.
03:07Right.
03:08And talking about Donald Trump's policies and the pushback, he has, you know, spoken
03:13about mass deportation.
03:15He has spoken about making some of the visas like H1B, O1 stricter.
03:19And of course, you know, ending the birthright citizenship.
03:24What do you think of these policies?
03:26Are they doable in the next two to three years or are they going to attract any kind of legal
03:31or constitutional hurdles?
03:34I think certainly they will attract some legal response, depending on which of the policies
03:39we're talking about.
03:40For birthright citizenship, maybe let's start there.
03:43That's been quite settled in American constitutional law, that if you are born here in this nation
03:49and you are an American citizen, even the Supreme Court has has reiterated that back
03:55when we were doing the census in 2020, also under the Trump, the first Trump administration.
04:02So I think it'll be really challenging for him to move that forward on deportations,
04:09mass deportations.
04:10You know, there's approximately it's estimated about 11 million undocumented immigrants
04:15here in the United States.
04:16And while, you know, most presume that that is predominantly people from Latin America
04:21or Mexico, and that certainly might be true, there are certainly Indian Americans amongst
04:27their ranks.
04:28And over the course of many, many years, we've heard a whole lot of stories about undocumented
04:33Indian Americans as well.
04:35So certainly the community would also potentially be affected if if he were to move forward
04:40with mass deportations.
04:42That being said, to do so would be larger than the scale of the roundup prior to the
04:50Holocaust in Western Europe.
04:53It would send shockwaves through communities and would not look so great.
04:58I mean, at the end of the day, while Americans might say that they want these deportations,
05:03actually seeing mothers and children being rounded up most likely will pull on the heartstrings
05:10of Americans.
05:12So I don't anticipate that as well as from an economic perspective.
05:16Donald Trump has also talked about lowering the cost of everyday goods, of foods, of services.
05:23Undocumented immigrants are certainly a part of the U.S. economy.
05:27So if you want to lower the cost of food, you don't round up the essential workers who
05:32are working in the fields, picking many of our much of our produce.
05:37In the case of H-1B visas, really interesting.
05:41We'll have to see what happens there.
05:43He has talked about a desire to decrease H-1Bs in the past as well.
05:48I don't see how you do that without making further investments, long term investments
05:54in the educational setting, right, in terms of science, technology and STEAM.
05:59I'll be really curious to see how that moves forward.
06:05Elon Musk, of course, is one of his greatest supporters and advisors at this point in time.
06:11He most certainly hired plenty of H-1B visa holders to build up many of his science and
06:17technology companies.
06:20Let's see where that lands.
06:21It would be interesting to see how they, you know, implement the H-1B visa.
06:25I'm not talking about, you know, another promise that Donald Trump made was to get rid of the
06:32federal Department of Education.
06:34Now, you being a professor, how do you see this?
06:38And you know, how is it going to affect the students?
06:40Just talking from a layman's perspective, if this is, you know, if this goes forward,
06:44how is it going to affect professors and students in general?
06:48It's hard to say.
06:49The Department of Education has been an institution here in this country for many, many decades.
06:54So hard to see how that actually plays out again, whether or not a Republican-led House
07:02and Senate would actually approve of such a move is unclear.
07:08So much to be seen there on whether or not he would actually be able to pull off cancelling
07:15the Department of Education.
07:17Right.
07:18Now, you know, shifting attention to Vice President Kamala Harris, there are people
07:24who are saying that this election has led to the end of Kamala Harris's future in politics.
07:29And you know, some are in fact suggesting that she should become a public speaker or
07:33join SCOTUS as a justice.
07:36What do you think of her future in the U.S. politics?
07:40Certainly she should do all of the speaking that she can or wants to do.
07:44And no doubt that there will be an audience for that.
07:47That being said, you know, I'm here in California, her home state already.
07:51People are talking about whether or not she should run for the governor's race.
07:54There's a governor's race coming up in just two years here.
07:58So we shall see what is in store for Kamala Harris.
08:03While she didn't make it to that top slot, it's not unheard of for legislators to ultimately
08:10go and seek another office somewhere else.
08:12Certainly that was the case for Mitt Romney, who went back and ran and won and was successful
08:17in the state of Utah.
08:19Right.
08:20Now, talking about the voters and election, there were a large number of Hispanic, Asian
08:26Americans and even Gen Z population and Latino voters who voted for Donald Trump in this
08:31election.
08:32Now, you being part of AAPI and researching about voter outlook, what do you think went
08:39wrong with the Democrats in this election?
08:42Because these communities are majorly Democratic voters.
08:45Yeah, you're right.
08:46I mean, over the course of many years, we have certainly seen that trend towards the
08:50Democratic Party and this election.
08:53It very much looks like there's some movement back and away from the Democrats.
08:59Much to be seen as we get more and more of the survey data, as we are able to examine
09:04more of the results.
09:05We still have ballots coming in here in California, so it might be a little bit early to exactly
09:12tell you what's going on here.
09:14There's a number of races here, especially in Orange County, where Asian Americans were
09:19vying for seats.
09:21There's one that still hasn't been called that includes the Little India neighborhood
09:26in Los Angeles, as well as Little Saigon.
09:29So much to be seen about what's actually happening in these communities.
09:33That being said, it's quite clear that at least this time around, Kamala Harris at the
09:39top of the ticket was unable to garner that support.
09:42Now, is that going to be something that's going on for some time if this is a new trend?
09:47Or was it something just to do with Kamala Harris or the fact that there wasn't a primary?
09:51And certainly many are saying Biden should have gotten out of the race sooner.
09:55There should have been a primary.
09:56We can come up with a host of different reasons why that might be.
10:00But we can also look to many states that elected Democrats statewide and yet still went to
10:07Trump.
10:08So clearly there's some split ticket voting as well that's going on.
10:12So much to do, much to unpack in the coming months.
10:17And no doubt, a whole lot of soul searching for Democrats moving forward.
10:20Right.
10:21Now, talking about Kamala Harris's chances of winning this election, now there are, you
10:26know, certain population in America who thinks that it is her gender that persuaded some
10:32of the Americans to vote against her and not make her the next president of the United
10:37States.
10:39Do you think her gender played a role or was it purely based on her policies?
10:44You know, interestingly, prior to the election, we were seeing in survey data evidence actually
10:50of a gender gap, that more women were preferring Kamala Harris to Donald Trump.
10:56In some of our work at AAPI data, notably, we actually had some findings that were profiled
11:02in Times of India that Asian-Americans were actually more excited about Kamala Harris's
11:09gender than her race, despite the fact that she's an Indian-American.
11:14So we were we were interested, certainly, to see that that didn't appear to play out
11:19in the data, that we have certainly a whole lot more survey data and exit polling that's
11:24going to come in in the coming months.
11:26And we'll really be able to get a better sense of to what extent and to what role gender
11:32was actually playing in this election.
11:35Right.
11:36Now, we'll have to wait and watch how this next four years turn out to be.
11:40Sarah, thank you so much for joining me and sharing your insights.
11:43Of course.
11:44Thanks for having me.