Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 13th NOV 2024 - video Dailymotion

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00:00:00Bismillah hir rahman nir raheem, Assalamualaikum, good morning to you all, hopefully

00:00:26all of you will be fine and you must have tuned in to our show very soon, very soon

00:00:31and we can guess how much you must be waiting for us on the streets,

00:00:37there must be a lot of traffic on the streets, you must be watching TV at home,

00:00:41no no, you must be watching it on your mobile phone as well,

00:00:43stopping the car on the road, on the left side and watching it on your mobile phone,

00:00:47you just have to take care of your phone,

00:00:49if you live in Karachi, you have to take care of your mobile phone,

00:00:52your love for us is in its place, but that's it,

00:00:54I just want to give a fleeting remark that,

00:00:57Trump has announced his name to the people in his administration and cabinet,

00:01:04along with that he was claiming that he will end the Russia war,

00:01:09so we saw a situation of escalation,

00:01:11when South North Korea has sent more troops with Russia,

00:01:17and these talks were going on for a month, but there was a denial of it,

00:01:21and you see Sadaf, their accord has become like NATO,

00:01:25earlier NATO countries used to help each other,

00:01:28this is the first time that North Korea has sent its soldiers there because of this accord,

00:01:32and think what stance Donald Trump has for NATO,

00:01:35that they will come and stop the funding of NATO,

00:01:37they say it is useless, now NATO was there so that,

00:01:40they can save European countries from the invasion of Russia or from the assault of Russia,

00:01:45so the context of this is very interesting,

00:01:47so the poor Ukraine is pissing us off for no reason,

00:01:50so the second thing is that there are no old people in Trump's cabinet,

00:01:53so let's go to Pakistan after telling this,

00:01:55I don't know who all people will come in Trump's cabinet,

00:01:57but the stance of the border guards is very clear,

00:02:01they don't talk about deporting the individual,

00:02:04they say that the illegal immigrants will deport the whole family,

00:02:08so there is a lot of concern in America on this,

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00:07:52There was smoke inside the houses as well.

00:07:54How many thousands of people died there?

00:07:5610,000 people died in 4 days.

00:07:58Sidra, can you hear us?

00:08:00First tell us this.

00:08:02Yes, now I can hear you.

00:08:04So tell us, are you able to breathe better today?

00:08:08We can see that your vision is better than before.

00:08:10So, there is no immediate impact of any measure.

00:08:14But, have you started to have mild effects?

00:08:18Yes, Lahore is a city of gardens.

00:08:22It is surrounded by chemical plants.

00:08:24People are inhaling a lot of chemicals in the air.

00:08:30So, Lahore is still at the top of the list of polluted areas.

00:08:34But, you can say that it has come down to some extent.

00:08:39Today, it is more than 500.

00:08:41And there are a lot of areas where it is more than 500.

00:08:45But, the area where I am standing right now,

00:08:47you can see behind me that the visibility is a little clear.

00:08:50And you are feeling some things better.

00:08:52The government has also imposed various lockdowns.

00:08:56And along with that, the office has also been reduced by 50%.

00:09:01And along with this, the private sector is also taking all its employees to 50%.

00:09:09So that the pollution can be reduced.

00:09:11Because a lot of car smoke is also causing pollution in the air.

00:09:17And if we talk about traffic in Lahore at this time,

00:09:19then the amount of traffic is very high.

00:09:21Approximately 70 lakh cars pass through Lahore on a daily basis.

00:09:26So, you can guess how much smoke is coming out of the cars.

00:09:31And a lot of people's cars, due to their poor quality,

00:09:36due to their poor maintenance,

00:09:38the air is getting worse.

00:09:40So, the citizens will also have to cooperate with the government

00:09:44so that this bad smoke can be removed from Lahore.

00:09:47Shidra, there is one thing.

00:09:49One thing is that the air quality is constantly being updated.

00:09:53Then an average of different areas is taken out.

00:09:56So, the condition of Lahore is better than India today.

00:09:59The second thing is that, as you are talking now,

00:10:02and the government is also thinking on this aspect,

00:10:05that there are a lot of cars, everything is there.

00:10:07But we explain that there is no comparison with Karachi,

00:10:10Lahore in terms of vehicles.

00:10:12But this is not the case in Karachi.

00:10:14So, is there attention on the other contributing factors

00:10:18or is the entire focus on the cars?

00:10:21No, the entire focus is not on the cars.

00:10:24Along with this, the industrial factories

00:10:27in which a lot of polluted smoke is coming out,

00:10:30its maintenance is also necessary.

00:10:33Because there is a lot of traffic,

00:10:36everyone is using their individual conveyance.

00:10:40So, the government has now taken the initiative

00:10:43that as many people as possible use one car

00:10:46so that at least the cars come out on the roads

00:10:49and can be controlled to some extent on air pollution.

00:10:52Cars are not the only purpose of smoke.

00:10:56A lot of things together are increasing pollution,

00:11:01if you do not clean the vats,

00:11:04then the dust that flies away

00:11:06is also the cause of the smoke.

00:11:09Because the ground is going towards it,

00:11:11and the air above is a little hot.

00:11:14So, when things fly up,

00:11:16they start freezing,

00:11:18which is the cause of the smoke.

00:11:20All the dust and the particles in it get trapped.

00:11:23Because of this, when the air does not flow,

00:11:25then there is a situation of smoke.

00:11:27Thank you so much.

00:11:28Sidra, you have updated us with all the details.

00:11:31Hopefully, the weather in Lahore is different today.

00:11:34Maybe this could be the reason.

00:11:36There is a lot of wind today,

00:11:38maybe this could be the reason.

00:11:39One more thing I was saying,

00:11:40we were talking about Lahore.

00:11:41You told a good thing about the wind.

00:11:43As we were talking,

00:11:45the wind speed has increased to 380 kmph.

00:11:47Let's talk about the wind now.

00:11:49The wind is blowing at a speed of 10 kmph.

00:11:53Do you remember when we were talking to Almas,

00:11:56there was no wind at that time.

00:11:58There is a little wind now.

00:11:59The temperature is 16 degrees.

00:12:01So, this could be the reason.

00:12:02So, the weather is a little different.

00:12:04That is why we are seeing all these things.

00:12:06Hopefully, this lockdown will have the same effects.

00:12:09But let's talk about the government,

00:12:11that is, the government of the Muslim League in Punjab.

00:12:13Let's talk about them.

00:12:14What is being told from there in this situation?

00:12:17So, a lot of questions are being raised by the government

00:12:21on the side of Sidra.

00:12:22Yesterday, we saw the conversation

00:12:24of Mr. Ahsan Iqbal.

00:12:26He says that the issue of smog cannot be solved overnight.

00:12:30He is taking all the steps

00:12:32and will solve this issue in a few years.

00:12:34But the deputy minister, Mr. Ahsan Iqbal,

00:12:38says that we will have to use all the means

00:12:40to avoid the problem of smog.

00:12:42And before the time of 250,000 deaths from smog,

00:12:44approximately 9% of the GDP can be affected.

00:12:47Then he says,

00:12:49all this is the result of our carelessness.

00:12:51I am glad that there is acceptance in this.

00:12:53He is accepting it.

00:12:54And then he also said,

00:12:55which we have also been talking about,

00:12:57that the role of the neighboring country is 30%.

00:12:59Okay, so,

00:13:00Mr. Bilawal's advice has also come forward.

00:13:03What is the advice?

00:13:04Earlier, you know,

00:13:05there was a time when everyone

00:13:07used to talk about the shift of Islamabad and Lahore.

00:13:09Because of the serenity, the beauty,

00:13:11and the feathers.

00:13:12Cleanliness.

00:13:13Cleanliness.

00:13:14So, cleanliness,

00:13:15everything else is in its place.

00:13:17But air, which has become a destination.

00:13:19So, Mr. Bilawal,

00:13:20while sharing the ratings of AQI,

00:13:22has said,

00:13:23yes, come to Karachi.

00:13:24Come to Karachi.

00:13:25That is, he is saying,

00:13:26the people who are worried about the smog from other cities,

00:13:29come to Karachi.

00:13:30If you come to Karachi,

00:13:31you will have to keep your mobile phone safely.

00:13:33Yes.

00:13:34Mobile phone, your belongings.

00:13:36Then he also shared the pollution of the cities of Punjab and KP.

00:13:40So, this is a natural phenomenon.

00:13:42There is no fault of the cities in this.

00:13:44Absolutely not.

00:13:45Absolutely.

00:13:46And if there is any other solution,

00:13:48then we should definitely provide it to the people.

00:13:51Anyway,

00:13:52we are also seeing some such cases in Peshawar.

00:13:55And birds are also being affected there.

00:13:57Obviously,

00:13:58every living being is being affected by this.

00:14:01And they have also stopped eating.

00:14:03That is very concerning.

00:14:05Experts are saying that they have become very weak.

00:14:08Their rate of death has also increased.

00:14:10It has increased by 90 percent.

00:14:13Okay, and there is one more thing, Sadaf.

00:14:15The picture that NASA shared,

00:14:18there was a very drowning situation in it.

00:14:22They took a picture from the satellite.

00:14:24They took a picture from the satellite.

00:14:26And it was shown through the satellite that

00:14:28the whole area of Lahore, Delhi,

00:14:30you can see that it is surrounded by clouds of smoke.

00:14:33Well, one thing was good,

00:14:34our spying will not be that much.

00:14:36But anyway,

00:14:37what they used to do through satellites.

00:14:39But anyway.

00:14:40Let's talk about this.

00:14:41We have with us a climate change expert,

00:14:43Ali Tauqir Sheikh.

00:14:44Thank you so much, Ali Tauqir,

00:14:45for joining us.

00:14:47We have just shown you the statement of

00:14:49Mr. Ahsan Iqbal, the deputy minister.

00:14:51He is saying that

00:14:52there is a lot of contributing factor in this.

00:14:54It is our negligence.

00:14:55And the role of India in this,

00:14:57which is being said that

00:14:58we are being affected because of India.

00:15:00It is there.

00:15:01It is in its place.

00:15:02No one can deny this fact.

00:15:04But it is 30 percent.

00:15:05So you tell us a little bit

00:15:07that India is one of the factors

00:15:09or India is the only factor?

00:15:13India is not the factor.

00:15:16Yes.

00:15:17We are doing two or three such things

00:15:19with which we are blaming the poor.

00:15:24Then we blame India and say

00:15:26that we cannot solve this problem

00:15:28until India solves its own problem.

00:15:30It is exactly the same as they say

00:15:32that Pakistan cannot be fine until

00:15:34America is fine.

00:15:35Now let's try to…

00:15:36Which has never happened.

00:15:38Yes.

00:15:39Now see,

00:15:40these things will continue to happen.

00:15:43They also need it.

00:15:44People need it.

00:15:45People have awareness.

00:15:46Because the issues are complex.

00:15:48India can also be a contributing agent.

00:15:50But in my knowledge,

00:15:51there is no such database

00:15:53from which it can be found

00:15:54that when and which direction

00:15:56the wind direction is.

00:15:57Sir, there was another thing.

00:15:58Before you go ahead

00:15:59and answer it in detail,

00:16:00it was investigated there.

00:16:02So they said that

00:16:03these PM 2.5 or PM 10 particles

00:16:05cannot travel more than 10 and 50 km.

00:16:09No matter how strong the wind is.

00:16:11Yes.

00:16:12See, these are the problems.

00:16:14These are the problems.

00:16:15For your listeners,

00:16:18I would like to add a couple of things.

00:16:21Of course.

00:16:22More than 200 countries in the world

00:16:24have committed to decarbonization policy

00:16:27in which they have said

00:16:29that we will transition our economies

00:16:32towards renewable energy

00:16:34and we will have net zero emissions.

00:16:37A lot of countries in the world

00:16:39have said this.

00:16:40More than 80% of the countries

00:16:42have said this.

00:16:43Pakistan has not committed to this.

00:16:45The biggest benefit of this crisis

00:16:48can be that

00:16:49this is a health crisis

00:16:50and also an economic crisis.

00:16:52The benefit can be that

00:16:54we can set our compass

00:16:56and go in the direction of journey.

00:16:58And we can also commit

00:16:59that we want to have net zero emissions.

00:17:01When we do that,

00:17:02we will have international technical expertise

00:17:04and other expertise

00:17:05and resources available to us.

00:17:07So first of all,

00:17:08according to me,

00:17:09this is an opportunity

00:17:10for us to expect from our government

00:17:12that instead of talking here and there,

00:17:14they will say that

00:17:15Pakistan will also become part

00:17:17of the international community.

00:17:18When we ask for international finance from people,

00:17:20we should also commit

00:17:22that we will improve our system in our society.

00:17:25Now let's move forward.

00:17:27China,

00:17:29you gave the example of the UK,

00:17:32Mexico,

00:17:33there are many examples,

00:17:34it takes 20-30 years.

00:17:36In 2047,

00:17:38I think there are 23 years left.

00:17:40So Pakistan will have to make

00:17:42a plan for at least 23 years.

00:17:44And if I look at their pace,

00:17:47which was of China,

00:17:49then it will be difficult for us

00:17:51to halve it in two decades

00:17:53from the present level.

00:17:54This will not be clean air

00:17:56in the next 10-15 years.

00:17:58This problem will continue for years.

00:18:00And there are three solutions to this

00:18:02that I want to talk about quickly

00:18:04People don't talk about solutions.

00:18:06They look at the data of the problem

00:18:08and put people in a state of panic.

00:18:14There is no other solution

00:18:16other than public transportation.

00:18:18And we also have a solution for that.

00:18:20If the government of Pakistan

00:18:22imports its fossil fuel,

00:18:24it should pay 20%,

00:18:2630%, whatever percentage

00:18:28of carbon tax.

00:18:30And instead of spending that tax here and there,

00:18:32invest in public transportation.

00:18:34First, so that people

00:18:36are more dependent on cars.

00:18:40The second way is

00:18:42that the State Bank of Pakistan

00:18:44should issue regulations

00:18:46that banks should give loans,

00:18:48credit, and the government should

00:18:50offer subsidies to two-wheelers

00:18:52and three-wheelers.

00:18:54Three-wheelers are rickshaws,

00:18:56two-wheelers are motorcycles.

00:18:58Motorcycles are available in Pakistan

00:19:00With the technology of the 60s,

00:19:0270 or 100, whatever,

00:19:04their price is 1.25 lakh,

00:19:061.5 lakh, 2 lakh rupees.

00:19:08If they run on electric vehicles,

00:19:10then the transmission of emissions

00:19:12in our congested areas

00:19:14can be very fast.

00:19:16And for this,

00:19:18we should plan

00:19:20that we should phase out

00:19:22rickshaws within five years.

00:19:24Stop giving new licenses,

00:19:26increase their fees,

00:19:28and enable people

00:19:30through banks

00:19:32to be able to trade.

00:19:34Give your own rickshaw

00:19:36and buy an EV.

00:19:38Other than this, sir?

00:19:40If you allow me,

00:19:42I would like to go a little further.

00:19:44The growth rate

00:19:46of renewable energy

00:19:48is equal to

00:19:50nonexistence in Pakistan.

00:19:52Pakistan and India

00:19:54started working together

00:19:56and we had the same ratio

00:19:58of renewable energy

00:20:00in our energy mix.

00:20:02India took it to about 40%.

00:20:04And they have

00:20:06doubled renewable energy

00:20:08almost every year.

00:20:10Pakistan will also have to

00:20:12work on a war footing

00:20:14to double the share

00:20:16of renewable energy

00:20:18every year.

00:20:20In the next 5-10 years,

00:20:22we will be able to reach

00:20:24a similar level.

00:20:26And until we decarbonize,

00:20:28our health crisis

00:20:30will continue to grow.

00:20:32The economic cost of this

00:20:34is very high.

00:20:36If you want to go to Punjab,

00:20:38the weather will be clear.

00:20:40You will not have any tourists.

00:20:42We will not be able to meet

00:20:44our relatives from abroad.

00:20:46I missed a funeral in Lahore

00:20:48because my family allowed me

00:20:50to go in such bad weather.

00:20:52Little knowing that

00:20:54Islamabad has also become like this.

00:20:56So, these are

00:20:58two or three big things.

00:21:00If you want to ask anything else,

00:21:02I am available.

00:21:04But this is a long-term solution.

00:21:06What can we do in the short term?

00:21:08For firefighting,

00:21:10are we in the right direction?

00:21:12Look, we should not

00:21:14do two things at all.

00:21:16You cannot do anything

00:21:18with which people's freedom

00:21:20and economic activity

00:21:22are affected.

00:21:24This is a violation of the Constitution.

00:21:26You cannot

00:21:28bring down a person

00:21:30because under any legislation

00:21:32you cannot say that I can bring him down.

00:21:34You will do something wrong

00:21:36if you say that

00:21:38close the barbecue shop.

00:21:40Why? People sit at home all day

00:21:42and leave in the evening.

00:21:44And you don't even know that

00:21:46the barbecue shop is not even 1%

00:21:48of the population.

00:21:50So, you are also

00:21:52eliminating some economic activity.

00:21:54If the barbecue shop is destroyed,

00:21:56the construction of people's houses

00:21:58and factories will also be destroyed.

00:22:00You have not taken any action

00:22:02for the fitness of cars.

00:22:04You get a little excited

00:22:06and start closing the cars.

00:22:08You fine the Prime Minister

00:22:10and the Chief Minister after 6 hours.

00:22:12If there is something else,

00:22:14it is closed.

00:22:16The fitness of cars

00:22:18is not in the hands

00:22:20of the government.

00:22:22The longer their PC1

00:22:24and capacity building

00:22:26will take,

00:22:28the better.

00:22:30It will take time.

00:22:32That has to be done

00:22:34by the private sector.

00:22:36There is no credibility of the government.

00:22:38In Lahore,

00:22:40they turn off the lights at night

00:22:42and shut down the shop.

00:22:44We have seen this in COVID.

00:22:48Thank you so much.

00:22:50It was very nice talking to you.

00:22:52We have got a lot of information from this.

00:22:54If we talk about experts,

00:22:56they have a lot of data.

00:22:58They are giving a 23-year plan

00:23:00that these things do not get sorted immediately.

00:23:02But the way we do the

00:23:04dumb-dumb program,

00:23:06to control exhaust emissions,

00:23:08you need proper gadgets

00:23:10for the private sector.

00:23:12Let's take a break.

00:23:28Welcome back once again.

00:23:30If we talk about the basic needs

00:23:32of people,

00:23:34it includes food, clothing,

00:23:36and housing.

00:23:38This is Mr. Bhutto's slogan.

00:23:40This is your basic need

00:23:42to survive.

00:23:44If you have a roof over your head

00:23:46in your house,

00:23:48it makes life easier.

00:23:50You don't have to pay the rent.

00:23:52Electricity bills will never decrease.

00:23:54You will have to pay the school fees

00:23:56for the children

00:23:58and their college and marriage expenses.

00:24:00But if you have your own house,

00:24:02it makes life easier.

00:24:04We have shown such a beautiful house.

00:24:06In this era of inflation,

00:24:08it has become very difficult

00:24:10to build your own house.

00:24:12So what do people do?

00:24:14They prefer to live in a rented house.

00:24:16Earlier, gold and silver used to be popular.

00:24:18But now it is very difficult.

00:24:20I can give you gold or silver,

00:24:22or any palace.

00:24:24But I have promised you

00:24:26that I will give you a small house.

00:24:28Even a small house is difficult.

00:24:30Yes, it is difficult.

00:24:32The rule of our house is that

00:24:34they have lost their wealth in crores.

00:24:36If you go to look for a house,

00:24:38you have to pay a performance fee.

00:24:40It is very difficult.

00:24:42But if you have given

00:24:44an advance of six months,

00:24:46if you have fulfilled

00:24:48all the conditions,

00:24:50if you have agreed to

00:24:52the terms and conditions

00:24:54after 11 months,

00:24:56then you are asked

00:24:58which department you belong to.

00:25:00It is a complete investigation.

00:25:02If you find out that

00:25:04in their words,

00:25:06you are either a police officer,

00:25:08a lawyer,

00:25:10or a journalist.

00:25:12Then you have to

00:25:14follow the rules of the house.

00:25:16All the investigations

00:25:18are done in the same way.

00:25:20You have to face

00:25:22this at many places.

00:25:24The rule of a rented house

00:25:26is very difficult.

00:25:28Of course.

00:25:30The groups that are affected

00:25:32by this situation,

00:25:34what are they saying?

00:25:36Let's take a look at it.

00:25:38You have seen the situation.

00:25:40People are more or less

00:25:42afraid of traffic police.

00:25:44There are proper interviews.

00:25:46You are asked

00:25:48how many people are there in the house,

00:25:50who are the children,

00:25:52who are the adults.

00:25:54At many places, you have to

00:25:56give a birth certificate.

00:25:58Let's talk about it.

00:26:00Mr. Adnan is present here.

00:26:02He is a social media influencer.

00:26:04He works on it.

00:26:06He deals with property matters.

00:26:08Mr. Somro is with us.

00:26:10He is a well-known lawyer.

00:26:12He keeps an eye on important matters.

00:26:14Let's ask Mr. Adnan

00:26:16first.

00:26:18Why is it so difficult

00:26:20to rent a house?

00:26:22What are the demands of the landlord?

00:26:24Did you hear any complaints?

00:26:26You are right.

00:26:28I am from this field.

00:26:30When the landlord comes,

00:26:32he says that there are two children.

00:26:34The rent is Rs. 50,000.

00:26:36I asked him

00:26:38if the other brother is married,

00:26:40will he have two children?

00:26:42He said no.

00:26:44I asked him how he will run the house.

00:26:46He said he will give the keys.

00:26:48We have to keep quiet

00:26:50because there is so much oppression.

00:26:52When we complain to the police,

00:26:54they tell us to look for someone else.

00:26:56They try to tell us to think

00:26:58and work for the landlord.

00:27:00They ask us why we react like this.

00:27:02We say that we are aware of the landlord

00:27:04and he says we should move away from here.

00:27:06He also watches if there is a car or not.

00:27:08Two children are sitting in the house

00:27:10and one of them is sitting behind.

00:27:12He says the business is running

00:27:14and the father is still alive.

00:27:16It is impossible for him

00:27:18to manage his life.

00:27:20But people think that

00:27:22they should first sit and think

00:27:24After that, I'll rent a house.

00:27:26There's no respect for the poor anywhere.

00:27:27What are some professions that you refuse to listen to?

00:27:30Bro, people get scared when they see a lawyer's coat.

00:27:32Because, like he's sitting here decently,

00:27:34but when he comes to write,

00:27:36he'll do that with a pen,

00:27:37that he'll shake the whole building.

00:27:39His name is a terrorist.

00:27:41The lawyer has taken over the house.

00:27:43No one can serve him.

00:27:44The police...

00:27:45He's waiting for his turn.

00:27:47Yes, his turn is about to come.

00:27:49Because when I offer it to the lawyer,

00:27:50then the lawyer will keep his case and we'll go behind.

00:27:54Mr. Lawyer, you tell me the truth.

00:27:55Do you have the power?

00:27:56First, tell me about the three professions.

00:27:58You told me about the third one.

00:28:00What did you tell me?

00:28:00Police, lawyer...

00:28:02Journalist.

00:28:03Look, bro, I've made a press card as well.

00:28:07I'm sorry, bro.

00:28:08When someone stops me, I take it out and show it to them.

00:28:10They say, look at this.

00:28:11So, we, the genuine journalists, do this work.

00:28:14Look at this.

00:28:15So, he has so much faith that wherever I show it,

00:28:17they say, sir, you...

00:28:18Now that you're showing it,

00:28:19it's obvious that they won't catch you.

00:28:20No, no, sir, you.

00:28:21If you leave from here, no one will catch you.

00:28:22I have a connection.

00:28:23Oh, you have a connection.

00:28:24I have a connection.

00:28:24So, I show it to them.

00:28:25I tell them, look at this.

00:28:26Again.

00:28:27So, it's the press, bro.

00:28:28In the press, if you tell someone to give you a house,

00:28:30they say, no, take it away.

00:28:31Who?

00:28:32Someone who works normally.

00:28:33A doctor?

00:28:34Bank, bank.

00:28:35Who's the bank?

00:28:35A doctor.

00:28:36You need a hard salary.

00:28:37You need it on time.

00:28:39Your mother has passed away.

00:28:40We don't know.

00:28:41We need rent.

00:28:42God, forgive us.

00:28:43It's become so strict.

00:28:44Tell me one more thing.

00:28:45You have to increase the rent by 10% every year.

00:28:47The rent is already too high.

00:28:49In Karachi, from other cities...

00:28:50In 11 months.

00:28:51In 11 months.

00:28:52Yes, in 11 months.

00:28:53They have to renew it in 11 months.

00:28:54The second thing, after every two years,

00:28:56they'll say, vacate the house.

00:28:58Why do they do this?

00:28:59They say, it's because of the fear of not being taken over.

00:29:01If he stays here for 10 years,

00:29:02he might claim in court that he's living here.

00:29:05So, this is a fact.

00:29:07Now, the lawyer will answer,

00:29:08is there any truth to this?

00:29:09You tell me,

00:29:11first,

00:29:12is this fear,

00:29:14of course, there will be a percentage,

00:29:15but has it really been defamed so much

00:29:17that there's no truth to it?

00:29:20I'm talking about all three.

00:29:21First of all, you have to see,

00:29:23the landlord in the market,

00:29:27because of our population,

00:29:29there are more people,

00:29:31there are fewer houses.

00:29:33So, there's a rule of demand and supply.

00:29:35Where there's more demand,

00:29:37things will automatically go according to your choice.

00:29:41The second thing is, law.

00:29:43We're not talking about the law.

00:29:45Law is very difficult.

00:29:47The law says,

00:29:49there should be no discrimination with anyone.

00:29:52If there is,

00:29:53the court is open.

00:29:55Secondly,

00:29:56there's one thing,

00:29:59the rights of admission,

00:30:02that is, it's his choice, he's not giving it to anyone.

00:30:04The landlord is saying,

00:30:05it's my choice, I'm not giving it to this person.

00:30:07This is my own choice,

00:30:08how can I force the law on him?

00:30:09Look,

00:30:10the problem is,

00:30:11if I'm not given a house on the basis that I'm a lawyer,

00:30:15then it's an apartheid.

00:30:17It's an injustice.

00:30:18It's an unfairness.

00:30:19It's an unfairness.

00:30:20The problem is,

00:30:21the law is clear.

00:30:23The second problem is,

00:30:25when the Know Your Customer policy came,

00:30:28when the Global Financial Terrorism policy came,

00:30:32they made a category.

00:30:35They put people at high risk.

00:30:38People who had jewellery,

00:30:39who had cleanliness,

00:30:41who had a lawyer,

00:30:42who had a policeman,

00:30:43who had real estate.

00:30:45So, on the basis of that,

00:30:47a lot of people made a negative list.

00:30:49Okay.

00:30:50They made an unofficially negative list.

00:30:52These people don't want to finance.

00:30:54Okay?

00:30:55No one declares.

00:30:56A list was made,

00:30:58that what is their income?

00:31:01The source of income is also an issue.

00:31:03Now, what do we do?

00:31:04We don't go to the documents.

00:31:06And the third thing is,

00:31:07that we broker real estate.

00:31:09Tell me one more thing.

00:31:11On the basis of 11 months,

00:31:13after 11 months,

00:31:15they say 10%.

00:31:16Is this a rule of 10% or 5%?

00:31:18Or what is the rule?

00:31:20First of all,

00:31:2110% is the maximum.

00:31:23It's the ceiling limit.

00:31:24Okay.

00:31:25It's the ceiling limit.

00:31:26It's not just 10%.

00:31:27There are a lot of other things in 10%

00:31:29that we are not discussing.

00:31:30What are they?

00:31:31Repair.

00:31:32Whose loan lot is responsible for the repair?

00:31:35If it's a rear interior,

00:31:37if a button is broken,

00:31:38then it's okay.

00:31:39One second.

00:31:40You made a good point.

00:31:41Mr. Adnan,

00:31:42I want to know,

00:31:43a big amount is taken,

00:31:44in the name of advance.

00:31:45For 6 months.

00:31:46For 6 months.

00:31:47When it's time to return it,

00:31:48then they see,

00:31:49where the window frame is broken,

00:31:52where the paint is broken.

00:31:54This is the responsibility of the landlord.

00:31:57I will ask him a question.

00:31:58The thing is,

00:31:59after 1 year,

00:32:00after 2 years,

00:32:01he leaves it.

00:32:02The rent is Rs. 50,000.

00:32:03Now, he is using it.

00:32:04The wrong kids broke the pencil.

00:32:06Some tap is broken.

00:32:07Some washroom handle is broken.

00:32:08Now, when he sits,

00:32:09both are made in Lucknow.

00:32:11Whose responsibility is this?

00:32:13And when he leaves it,

00:32:14then the owner comes and keeps it here.

00:32:17Like this?

00:32:18He says,

00:32:19this color will be of Rs. 50,000.

00:32:20This is of Rs. 2,500.

00:32:22The washroom handle is broken.

00:32:23He says,

00:32:24I have been using it for 2 years.

00:32:25So, I have given the money.

00:32:27Now, I am leaving.

00:32:28You are asking me for zero.

00:32:29The tile is broken.

00:32:30So, the lawyer will tell me,

00:32:31that after 2 years,

00:32:32when he is taking the money,

00:32:33he has taken Rs. 4,00,000.

00:32:35So, it's not his responsibility,

00:32:36that he should do it himself.

00:32:38What does the law say?

00:32:39The law is absolutely clear.

00:32:41You will read Saint-Pierre's

00:32:42Audience 1979,

00:32:44Section 12.

00:32:45It is very much clear,

00:32:46that there is maintenance and repair.

00:32:49In repairing,

00:32:50when you make a clear agreement,

00:32:52then you decide,

00:32:53what you have to repair.

00:32:55In which the whitewash is done.

00:32:57Now, the plumbing is done.

00:32:58Interior wiring is done.

00:32:59This is the responsibility of the landlord.

00:33:01The landlord increases the money every year.

00:33:03His only provision is,

00:33:06that he will repair the things.

00:33:07Where there will be people,

00:33:08there will be wear and tear.

00:33:09Sir, but one thing.

00:33:10You talked about this,

00:33:11from a legal point of view.

00:33:12But, what is it called?

00:33:14The contract,

00:33:15the landlord writes on it.

00:33:17That,

00:33:18he will do this,

00:33:19he will do that.

00:33:20That, the repair will be done,

00:33:21he will do this,

00:33:22all these things.

00:33:23So, which of these is applicable?

00:33:24Sir, with apologies,

00:33:26when we open an account in the bank,

00:33:28we just sign it,

00:33:29we don't read it.

00:33:30We don't read it.

00:33:31When we make a rent agreement,

00:33:32we go to Photoshop,

00:33:34we take a rent agreement of Rs. 200,

00:33:36we sign it,

00:33:37we don't read the contractual obligations.

00:33:39We don't read it.

00:33:40This is the rule in the world,

00:33:41that you read the contractual obligations,

00:33:43you study the law,

00:33:44which are my rights.

00:33:45But, we have considered it as formality,

00:33:47because the amount is so high.

00:33:49When I consider it as formality,

00:33:50then liability is also there.

00:33:51No, sir, but when you are not getting a house,

00:33:52Mr. Adnan,

00:33:53it will be so difficult to get a house,

00:33:54and you will go there and show off,

00:33:55that go, get another one,

00:33:56get another one ready.

00:33:57How?

00:33:58In one house,

00:33:59there are 4-4 families,

00:34:00there is such chaos.

00:34:01What should I tell you,

00:34:02the one who will give Rs. 5000 token first,

00:34:03that house will be his.

00:34:04Don't show it,

00:34:05take Rs. 5000,

00:34:06and refuse others.

00:34:07What was wrong in us?

00:34:08Your children are more.

00:34:09Your husband's power sign,

00:34:10he doesn't have money,

00:34:11he will refuse after seeing your scooter.

00:34:13Is this a matter?

00:34:14He will give,

00:34:15you want money,

00:34:16but people are taking such interviews,

00:34:18where were you born?

00:34:19What does your father do?

00:34:20How many children do you have?

00:34:21How many children do you have?

00:34:22Your sister is in Punjab,

00:34:23when will she come?

00:34:24For how many days will she come?

00:34:25We will take Rs. 5000,

00:34:26how many children do you have?

00:34:27Are the children more?

00:34:28How many ACs will you install?

00:34:29How many bricks will you install on the wall?

00:34:31Oh, brother,

00:34:32you are giving him rent,

00:34:33what will you do?

00:34:34What?

00:34:35The water motor got burnt.

00:34:36That too from the tenant.

00:34:38Yes, that too from the tenant.

00:34:39This doesn't happen.

00:34:40The problem is,

00:34:41what sir is saying,

00:34:42this is a mobile garage.

00:34:43The fact is,

00:34:44when you don't document things,

00:34:46I say,

00:34:47when I gave the meter to the tenant,

00:34:49so many sensible people do this,

00:34:51they note the meter reading,

00:34:52they clear the bills,

00:34:54that this is of today,

00:34:56I gave you this bill,

00:34:57now when you will leave,

00:34:58I will give this bill to you.

00:35:00This is your compulsion.

00:35:01Sir, just explain to me,

00:35:02you mentioned about the law,

00:35:04now let's suppose,

00:35:05if I didn't read the contract,

00:35:08and it is written in it,

00:35:09that he has to do the repair,

00:35:10then will it have the value,

00:35:12that you talked about the act or the law,

00:35:14or will it have more value?

00:35:1599% of the people,

00:35:17who don't register the rent agreement,

00:35:20neither do they register,

00:35:22nor do they get it tested,

00:35:23just to save money.

00:35:25When I will do everything to save money,

00:35:28then there will be a problem somewhere.

00:35:31The law says,

00:35:32if it is after 12 months,

00:35:33then you will have to register.

00:35:35If it is after 11 months,

00:35:36then you will have to get it tested,

00:35:38at the rent controller.

00:35:39If you get an interview from someone,

00:35:41how many people go and get it tested,

00:35:43they keep the copy with them,

00:35:45they get the copy read from someone,

00:35:47secondly, what sensible people do,

00:35:49whenever there is an agreement,

00:35:51they put a state agent in the middle,

00:35:53after every 11 months,

00:35:55they get it reviewed.

00:35:56Now what do we do?

00:35:57Late fees have come,

00:35:59I didn't give the notice,

00:36:01so the issues...

00:36:02These are very important points,

00:36:04we would like to continue this,

00:36:06we will talk about this later,

00:36:08but we have to take a break,

00:36:09we will come back after the break.

00:36:10We will come back after the break.

00:36:24After the break,

00:36:25once again,

00:36:26good morning to all of you,

00:36:28we hope you are with us,

00:36:30we were with you from 9 to 10,

00:36:32it was an interesting topic,

00:36:33we were talking about it,

00:36:34and from 10 to 11,

00:36:35God willing,

00:36:36we will be with you.

00:36:38The topic was,

00:36:39the issues of the tenants,

00:36:40what does the law say,

00:36:42and the beautiful house we have shown you,

00:36:44how difficult it is to get it,

00:36:46to make it our own,

00:36:47the way the rates are soaring,

00:36:48that is next to impossible,

00:36:50but taking it on rent,

00:36:51has become a very difficult task.

00:36:53So what is the opinion of the tenants,

00:36:55let us show you a little,

00:36:56then we will continue the topic.

00:36:58Yes,

00:36:59stealing,

00:37:00looting,

00:37:01Mr. Adnan and Mr. Imdad are with us,

00:37:03we are talking to them.

00:37:04So,

00:37:05these things,

00:37:06obviously,

00:37:07you deal with these things in the property,

00:37:09so these are the issues.

00:37:10Absolutely,

00:37:11absolutely right,

00:37:12what I said,

00:37:13the last people said,

00:37:14stealing,

00:37:15looting,

00:37:16the owners say,

00:37:17we don't know,

00:37:18we need money,

00:37:20you are responsible,

00:37:21you are the estate agent,

00:37:22you will bring,

00:37:23we will not pay the commission,

00:37:24okay,

00:37:25the tenant pays the commission,

00:37:26let me tell you this,

00:37:27it happens from both sides,

00:37:28but the owner says,

00:37:29return the keys,

00:37:30I am not paying.

00:37:31Is there a percentage of the commission,

00:37:32that the entire rent,

00:37:33or?

00:37:34One month's rent,

00:37:35the estate agent will take 50,000 rupees.

00:37:36Okay,

00:37:37if there is 50,000 rent.

00:37:38If,

00:37:39it is normal now,

00:37:40in Nazabad,

00:37:41North Nazabad,

00:37:4255, 60, 70,

00:37:43it is common,

00:37:443 bed DD,

00:37:452 bed DD,

00:37:4635,000,

00:37:472 bed room.

00:37:48But,

00:37:49why is the rent increasing so much?

00:37:50Because,

00:37:51people's children are growing up on this,

00:37:52now the owners,

00:37:53they used to say,

00:37:54he is a widow,

00:37:55or he has become an orphan,

00:37:56we have given him,

00:37:57now it is a business,

00:37:58as a business,

00:37:59they invest,

00:38:00they say,

00:38:01how much will be the rent?

00:38:02How much is this portion?

00:38:03He says,

00:38:04one crore.

00:38:05He says,

00:38:06how much will be the rent?

00:38:07He puts it on rent,

00:38:08and then he restricts the estate agent,

00:38:09that I want it as I am giving it,

00:38:10because I have to sell it,

00:38:11as an investor.

00:38:12So,

00:38:13he tells them,

00:38:14husband and wife,

00:38:15two children,

00:38:16you bring them,

00:38:17the rent is 50,000.

00:38:18So,

00:38:19this is cruelty.

00:38:20And,

00:38:21after 1.5-2 years,

00:38:22is the owner of the house,

00:38:23that he doesn't want to keep

00:38:24anyone for more than 2 years?

00:38:25Yes.

00:38:26Oh,

00:38:27what if he takes over?

00:38:28Are there cases of taking over?

00:38:29Yes.

00:38:30Now,

00:38:31I will ask a question to the lawyer.

00:38:32Lawyer,

00:38:33you tell me.

00:38:34You tell me first.

00:38:35What is your experience?

00:38:3620-25 years,

00:38:37it becomes too much.

00:38:38In 5 years,

00:38:39the owners who come to me,

00:38:40they say,

00:38:41don't keep them for long,

00:38:42it won't happen,

00:38:43take over.

00:38:44This is a fact.

00:38:45Within 2 years?

00:38:46Within 2-3 years,

00:38:47take them out immediately.

00:38:48Why?

00:38:49If he stays,

00:38:50and if he goes to court,

00:38:51then the owners,

00:38:52who are scared,

00:38:53they say,

00:38:54take him out,

00:38:55give him 2 years.

00:38:56Because,

00:38:57I don't want to keep him for more than 2 years.

00:38:58Now,

00:38:59I will ask the lawyer,

00:39:00if someone stays for 20 years,

00:39:01then he becomes the owner.

00:39:02Is it true,

00:39:03that this fear,

00:39:04people have this fear,

00:39:05that the owner should keep his mind clear.

00:39:06You tell us the facts.

00:39:07Are there cases like this?

00:39:08Not at all.

00:39:09Okay.

00:39:10There is fear.

00:39:11There is a perception,

00:39:12that if I stay for a long time,

00:39:13then the owners will take over.

00:39:14This private,

00:39:15the agreements,

00:39:16the private property,

00:39:17there is no accountability

00:39:18on this.

00:39:19Okay.

00:39:20The problem is,

00:39:21that I don't continue the agreements.

00:39:22The second thing is,

00:39:23there is an awareness,

00:39:24legal awareness.

00:39:25For example,

00:39:26section 15,

00:39:27makes it clear,

00:39:28that you,

00:39:29the landlord,

00:39:30can take you out

00:39:31on what conditions.

00:39:32Those conditions are defined.

00:39:33Unnecessarily,

00:39:34he can't take you out.

00:39:35Okay.

00:39:36As long as you are a good tenant,

00:39:37he can't take you out.

00:39:38You are being protected by the law.

00:39:39Suppose,

00:39:40he says,

00:39:41brother,

00:39:42this is my property,

00:39:43this is my property,

00:39:44this is my property,

00:39:45this is my property,

00:39:46this is my property,

00:39:47this is my property,

00:39:48and he says,

00:39:49this is my children's wedding,

00:39:50that's why I want a house,

00:39:51or I am close to retirement,

00:39:52I want a house.

00:39:53These are the conditions

00:39:54written here.

00:39:55He can't do anything

00:39:56other than this.

00:39:57But the thing is,

00:39:58social,

00:39:59there is no norms,

00:40:00no regulations.

00:40:01No,

00:40:02there is one more thing

00:40:03in this,

00:40:04suppose,

00:40:05he is making you

00:40:06vacate the house,

00:40:07he has given you notice,

00:40:08during that time,

00:40:09whenever he wants,

00:40:10he will come and

00:40:11make you visit the house.

00:40:12Basically,

00:40:13that is with permission.

00:40:14That is not possible.

00:40:15It is written,

00:40:16that with 2048

00:40:17hours permission,

00:40:18then he will inspect.

00:40:19Okay?

00:40:20He can't do it earlier.

00:40:21He says,

00:40:22no,

00:40:23I don't give you permission.

00:40:24He can't come.

00:40:25There is a law

00:40:26on trespass as well.

00:40:27How can I go

00:40:28to someone's house?

00:40:29There is a law

00:40:30on trespass,

00:40:31there are sections

00:40:32on that as well.

00:40:33The problem is,

00:40:34Because in the contract,

00:40:35everything is written

00:40:36as per the owner's will.

00:40:37That is why

00:40:38lawyers are not given

00:40:39a house.

00:40:40Because what he is

00:40:41talking about,

00:40:42look,

00:40:43he is showing his power,

00:40:44that he is not allowed,

00:40:45how did you ring the bell?

00:40:46Who are you?

00:40:47Who are you?

00:40:48Come home,

00:40:49I am a lawyer.

00:40:50You understand?

00:40:51A common man says,

00:40:52madam,

00:40:53come to the side,

00:40:54come,

00:40:55this is the house.

00:40:56Look,

00:40:57we stay in the field,

00:40:58madam,

00:40:59come to the side,

00:41:00come,

00:41:01I want to see the house.

00:41:02Why?

00:41:03Because the advance,

00:41:04the owner takes it

00:41:05and gives it to him.

00:41:06Yes.

00:41:07Look,

00:41:08the main point

00:41:09has come.

00:41:10He took 2 lakh rupees,

00:41:11made the kitchen,

00:41:12with his own money.

00:41:13The tenant is staying,

00:41:14now he is leaving.

00:41:15He opens the door.

00:41:16He says,

00:41:17come,

00:41:18my 2 lakh rupees are stuck.

00:41:19Thank you for the help.

00:41:20My 2 lakh rupees are stuck

00:41:21because he has already

00:41:22invested it.

00:41:23And the religion says

00:41:24that it is a trust,

00:41:25spend it with his permission.

00:41:26This is what the

00:41:27imams of mosques say,

00:41:28that the money

00:41:29that was given to you,

00:41:30that same note,

00:41:31not from anyone else,

00:41:32return that same note

00:41:33and spend it,

00:41:34with his permission.

00:41:35But the fine work

00:41:36that has to be done,

00:41:37the owner has to do it.

00:41:38No,

00:41:39the tenant stays,

00:41:40the tenant gets the commission.

00:41:41When I say

00:41:42that I don't study,

00:41:43I don't even understand

00:41:44the law,

00:41:45I will rent it,

00:41:46there is no solution.

00:41:47This is why

00:41:48we have kept this segment today.

00:41:49I am saying that

00:41:50when an agreement is made,

00:41:51it is written in it

00:41:52that what are the rights

00:41:53of the landlord,

00:41:54what are the responsibilities,

00:41:55what are the obligations

00:41:56of the tenant.

00:41:57The obligations of the tenant

00:41:58are clear cut.

00:41:59Even when he gives him

00:42:00a notice of eviction,

00:42:01he will also write the reason

00:42:02that under which reason

00:42:03I am evicting you.

00:42:04I have already said

00:42:05that we don't believe

00:42:06in documents.

00:42:07When the document

00:42:08is written,

00:42:09it is written

00:42:10in the document.

00:42:11The document is written

00:42:12in the document.

00:42:13When you don't believe

00:42:14in the document…

00:42:15Actually,

00:42:16when you are in need,

00:42:17you tolerate

00:42:18all the pressure

00:42:19and also make

00:42:20all the compromises.

00:42:21As you said,

00:42:22you are bringing

00:42:23four families together

00:42:24and you say…

00:42:25When we talk about

00:42:26loopholes,

00:42:27when there are loopholes,

00:42:28then what happens?

00:42:29Then a violation starts

00:42:30from there.

00:42:31Yes.

00:42:32Then it starts

00:42:33with dominance.

00:42:34They exploit it.

00:42:35I dictate it.

00:42:36There is no equality.

00:42:37Right.

00:42:38The landlord then

00:42:39dictates that

00:42:40I will give this,

00:42:41I will not give this.

00:42:42Even if we talk

00:42:44on this topic

00:42:45for the whole day,

00:42:46Turkey will remain

00:42:47the city.

00:42:48Thank you so much.

00:42:49He knows his rights.

00:42:50And you should know

00:42:51that the document

00:42:52which is written

00:42:53if you listen

00:42:54to it,

00:42:55then within

00:42:56two years

00:42:57they will handcuff

00:42:58you for no reason.

00:42:59Plus,

00:43:00if there is

00:43:01any maintenance,

00:43:02then how can

00:43:03they do it to you?

00:43:04That is the responsibility.

00:43:05Obviously,

00:43:06there will be

00:43:07depreciation.

00:43:08How can

00:43:09the tenant tolerate

00:43:10everything?

00:43:11so that you can know and the problem of these lawyers and police officers is also because

00:43:16as the lawyer was telling us and the journalists that they have an idea where they can be exploited

00:43:23so they can deal well.

00:43:25Now let's talk a little about the field of medicine.

00:43:28And in the field of medicine, you know that there are a lot of advancements happening,

00:43:32the world is progressing a lot and now it is happening that the skull, which is called

00:43:37forehead and face bones can be reconstructed in Pakistan.

00:43:42A hospital in Karachi has acquired the ability to reconstruct bones through an implant.

00:43:47What is the method? Anwar Khan will tell us more in his report.

00:43:51Experts said in the opening speech that 3D printed peak implants are capable of replacing bones in different parts of the body.

00:44:00These implants are unique due to their strength, light weight and compatibility with the human body for the skull, forehead and forehead bones etc.

00:44:17According to the experts, these implants are of the same standard that are available anywhere in the world.

00:44:21The peak substance used in these implants is approved by FDA.

00:44:25This is the kind of plastic that when it is attached to 3D printing, it becomes very hard and looks like a bone.

00:44:35Locally, the hospital reduces the costs of patients by reducing the cost of expensive implants.

00:44:42Peak implants are customized for each patient.

00:44:46We have used it in 14 patients so far.

00:44:51Some of these patients are about 1.5 to 2 years old.

00:44:58It has been very beneficial for all of them.

00:45:01The 3D printed peak implant design has been approved by the FDA.

00:45:06According to experts, peak implant technology will prove to be very important for patients.

00:45:13Anwar Khan, ARY News, Karachi

00:45:17When we talk about the field of medicine, there is a big problem that we all have.

00:45:22We all have lived on self-medication.

00:45:25We are all doctors.

00:45:26We have become doctors.

00:45:27There is a big doctor in our house.

00:45:30He recommends medicines for everything.

00:45:33I can tell you about 3-4 medicines.

00:45:34You can also tell.

00:45:36I rely on you because you do some research.

00:45:40You stay in touch with the doctor.

00:45:43When to take painkillers?

00:45:46Antibiotics have nothing to do with viral infections.

00:45:49Antibiotics are in the form of bacterial infections.

00:45:51We don't know which antibiotic is used for which disease.

00:45:56Antibiotics have a proper course.

00:45:58Yes.

00:45:59If you eat too much, it can cause side effects.

00:46:02Sadaf, do you know one more thing?

00:46:04People who are suffering from stomach pain don't even know that it is an antibiotic.

00:46:09They think it is a medicine for stomach pain.

00:46:11I don't know about many medicines.

00:46:12But you will understand who I am talking about.

00:46:14I will ask you later.

00:46:15Yes.

00:46:16Now we will tell you to what extent these medicines are being used in Pakistan.

00:46:20Pakistan and India.

00:46:21Pakistan and India include China as well.

00:46:24China, India and Pakistan are the third largest countries to use such medicines.

00:46:28We are on the third place.

00:46:29And 300,000 people are dying every year.

00:46:33Medical experts say that the bacteria that are fighting against antibiotics

00:46:38are killing 500,000 people every year.

00:46:41And that is the most concerning thing.

00:46:43You are taking antibiotics for 6 days.

00:46:46And you are still facing these things.

00:46:48Because many generations have come.

00:46:50Second generation, third generation.

00:46:52The spectrum has also increased.

00:46:54That it can solve many problems.

00:46:56But what is it?

00:46:57If you have a bacterial infection and you are taking antibiotics.

00:47:00But there is no solution.

00:47:01This is resistance.

00:47:02Let's talk about this.

00:47:03Dr. Rabia Saeed is with us.

00:47:05She is an assistant professor.

00:47:07And she practices family medicine.

00:47:09Thank you so much Rabia.

00:47:10You took out time for us.

00:47:11Brother, you must also know that the patients who come to you are two types of experts.

00:47:16One is the Google expert.

00:47:17They themselves tell you that what are our symptoms.

00:47:19And the second is that you yourself are using antibiotics.

00:47:22Self-medication.

00:47:23And in that, the medical store also does their assistance.

00:47:25Yes.

00:47:26So how dangerous is this trend?

00:47:29See, the unnecessary use of antibiotics.

00:47:33This was a problem before.

00:47:35But now it is creating a dangerous situation.

00:47:39Like Covid was a pandemic.

00:47:41So I would say that the antibiotic resistance is also taking such a complicated form in the future.

00:47:48And will continue to do so in the future.

00:47:50It will be very difficult for the entire healthcare system to deal with it.

00:47:55What are the factors that are increasing this antibiotic resistance?

00:47:58One is that as soon as any infection occurs.

00:48:01For example, if I tell you that in our country,

00:48:03commonly the viral infections,

00:48:05in which most of the respiratory tract infections occur.

00:48:08You have respiratory tract infections, flu, etc.

00:48:10So in that, people start using antibiotics on their own accord.

00:48:17Now, to further facilitate this,

00:48:21in our healthcare system,

00:48:22usually there is a prescription of antibiotics.

00:48:25On the basis of which, the pharmacist has to issue that antibiotic.

00:48:28In principle.

00:48:29In principle.

00:48:30But what happens here is that you go,

00:48:33you just say that you have this antibiotic.

00:48:35You just say any name XYZ.

00:48:37And you get that medicine.

00:48:39Then the second thing, as you just said,

00:48:42that there is a dose of antibiotic,

00:48:44there is a duration.

00:48:45You have to take it three times a day.

00:48:47Now the patient thinks that I took it once,

00:48:49I got better.

00:48:50That's enough.

00:48:51So again, all these factors.

00:48:54In Rabia, the way there is an antibiotic for stomach pain,

00:48:58people do not understand antibiotics.

00:49:00They do not understand.

00:49:01So the patients who come to me often,

00:49:04either they bring it themselves,

00:49:05or they have shown it to a doctor or a general practitioner outside.

00:49:10And even that antibiotic,

00:49:11without any indication,

00:49:13gives them a scar.

00:49:14Tell our viewers one thing,

00:49:15the way it is used,

00:49:16which is not recommended.

00:49:18And one took,

00:49:19took three,

00:49:20then left.

00:49:22Or its continuous use.

00:49:24What are the dangers of this?

00:49:26Look, first of all,

00:49:27we talk about the dangers.

00:49:29So we divide the dangers into two categories.

00:49:31One is short-term and one is long-term.

00:49:33If we talk about short-term,

00:49:34then any antibiotic that is not needed,

00:49:37or it is not indicated.

00:49:38So side effects of every medicine are the same.

00:49:41Antibiotics also have side effects.

00:49:43In addition to this,

00:49:44there are chances of allergies,

00:49:46that there is some antibiotic,

00:49:47which has caused an allergic reaction.

00:49:49So that risk is present itself.

00:49:51So that can happen in any case,

00:49:53but one thing for which it is not indicated,

00:49:55you have taken an additional risk on yourself.

00:49:57Then the third thing is that

00:49:59the antibiotic,

00:50:00if it is not indicated for any disease,

00:50:02and you have taken it,

00:50:04then one thing is that

00:50:05bacteria is developing resistance.

00:50:07Means it cannot kill it.

00:50:08Yes, bacteria develops immunity in itself,

00:50:11and this is a natural process of bacteria.

00:50:14Rabiya, we will stop you here.

00:50:16We have received a news,

00:50:17may Allah have mercy on us,

00:50:18that earthquakes have been felt in Peshawar, Swabi and Malakand.

00:50:21And in this regard,

00:50:22what is the severity,

00:50:23we will also talk about that.

00:50:24Obviously, the moment magnitude,

00:50:25the scale is basically a measure.

00:50:27Before this,

00:50:28it was measured through a detector scale.

00:50:30So this earthquake was also felt in Mardan, Hangu and Girdunawah.

00:50:33And obviously,

00:50:34people came out of their homes and shops

00:50:35chanting the Kalima-e-Tayyaba.

00:50:37It is also being said in Chitral, Bonair and Girdunawah

00:50:39that an earthquake has been felt.

00:50:41This thing is also being reported from the areas of Swat.

00:50:43A reference is also being given to Abbottabad

00:50:45that this earthquake has come to the mountainous areas.

00:50:49Now, what is its severity?

00:50:51These things will come to this in a while.

00:50:53Islamabad is also being named.

00:50:55Yes, in Wifaq-e-Darul-Kumat Islamabad,

00:50:57this reference has also been reported

00:50:59that there too,

00:51:00these earthquakes have been felt.

00:51:02Okay, so let us know the details on this.

00:51:04Shahzad, may Allah be with us.

00:51:05Shahzad, tell us,

00:51:06earthquakes have been felt.

00:51:08We do not know the severity yet.

00:51:10What details do you have?

00:51:12Yes, just like this,

00:51:13just a while ago,

00:51:14in Mingawara,

00:51:15along with the city,

00:51:16in the district of Swat

00:51:17and in the Malakand division,

00:51:19in Chitral, Bonair, Malakand,

00:51:21Mala, Adil, Lower, Upper,

00:51:23and in those,

00:51:24severe earthquakes were felt.

00:51:26The duration of the earthquake was approximately

00:51:2815 seconds.

00:51:30And these,

00:51:31three times,

00:51:32earthquakes were felt.

00:51:33After which,

00:51:34the locals

00:51:35came out of their homes and shops

00:51:37and from their schools,

00:51:38children also came out

00:51:39and there was a lot of terror

00:51:40and terror was being felt.

00:51:42Till now,

00:51:43it is not known

00:51:44about the severity.

00:51:46It is not known.

00:51:47But the earthquakes

00:51:48were very severe

00:51:49because of which

00:51:50people are getting

00:51:51a lot of terror and terror.

00:51:53So, are these still being felt

00:51:55or were they felt a while ago?

00:51:57And how long

00:51:58can it be estimated?

00:52:00At 10.16,

00:52:02the earthquakes that were felt,

00:52:04their duration

00:52:05was approximately

00:52:0615 to 20 seconds.

00:52:08And these were very severe earthquakes

00:52:10because of which

00:52:11people came out of their homes

00:52:13and shops

00:52:14and there was a lot of terror.

00:52:16May Allah have mercy on us.

00:52:17Shahzad, you informed us

00:52:18about the situation.

00:52:19Adnan Tariq from Peshawar

00:52:20will inform us about the situation.

00:52:22Adnan,

00:52:23was everything fine in Peshawar?

00:52:25Yes, absolutely.

00:52:26In Peshawar,

00:52:27Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

00:52:28and other districts,

00:52:29earthquakes were felt.

00:52:30A while ago,

00:52:31severe earthquakes

00:52:32were felt.

00:52:33Peshawar city,

00:52:34its surroundings,

00:52:35people came out

00:52:36of their homes

00:52:37due to the earthquake.

00:52:38People were standing

00:52:39in the markets

00:52:40and shops

00:52:41while performing

00:52:42their religious rites.

00:52:43And the traffic

00:52:44was also reduced.

00:52:45There were severe

00:52:46earthquakes.

00:52:47Not only in Peshawar,

00:52:48but in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

00:52:49as well.

00:52:50Earthquake

00:52:51was felt

00:52:52in Peshawar,

00:52:53Nushehra,

00:52:54Mardan,

00:52:55Charsadda

00:52:56and Malakand region.

00:52:57Earthquakes

00:52:58were felt.

00:52:59Alright.

00:53:00Thank you very much.

00:53:01Thank you very much.

00:53:02Before this,

00:53:03we would like to thank

00:53:04both of you.

00:53:05We pray that

00:53:06everyone stays safe.

00:53:07We will share

00:53:08updates with you.

00:53:09Rabiya is with us.

00:53:10Rabiya Saeed.

00:53:11We will talk about

00:53:12antibiotic resistance.

00:53:13Rabiya,

00:53:14one thing is that

00:53:15these antibiotics

00:53:16have different

00:53:17generations.

00:53:18Yes.

00:53:19What is the difference

00:53:20between them

00:53:21and any other medication?

00:53:22Or is it possible

00:53:23that different antibiotics

00:53:24can be used

00:53:25for one disease?

00:53:26Yes,

00:53:27absolutely.

00:53:28When we talk about

00:53:29the use of antibiotics,

00:53:30basically,

00:53:31use is not enough.

00:53:32Appropriate use

00:53:33is necessary.

00:53:34Appropriate use

00:53:35is necessary.

00:53:36In this,

00:53:37which medicine

00:53:38is needed

00:53:39for which disease?

00:53:40Often,

00:53:41people come

00:53:42for respiratory

00:53:43tract infections

00:53:44and use

00:53:45those medicines

00:53:46and antibiotics

00:53:47which are not

00:53:48beneficial for them.

00:53:49So,

00:53:50we talked about

00:53:51non-essential use

00:53:52and one thing

00:53:53we talked about

00:53:54is inappropriate.

00:53:55That is,

00:53:56the medication

00:53:57for which

00:53:58the indication

00:53:59is not needed.

00:54:00Now,

00:54:01this approach

00:54:02of broad

00:54:03spectrum antibiotics

00:54:04will cover

00:54:05all the infections.

00:54:06Again,

00:54:07this is also

00:54:08a very wrong

00:54:09method.

00:54:10It is a myth.

00:54:11Yes,

00:54:12it is a myth

00:54:13and a wrong

00:54:14approach

00:54:15which contributes

00:54:16to antibiotic

00:54:17resistance.

00:54:18So,

00:54:19is there any

00:54:20law against

00:54:21this?

00:54:22See,

00:54:23regulations

00:54:24are also

00:54:25present

00:54:26and worldwide

00:54:27regulations

00:54:28are also

00:54:29present

00:54:30and

00:54:31they

00:54:32are

00:54:33implemented

00:54:34worldwide

00:54:35and

00:54:36in

00:54:37every

00:54:38country.

00:54:39In

00:54:40our

00:54:41country,

00:54:42some

00:54:43hospitals

00:54:44are

00:54:45following

00:54:46this

00:54:47but

00:54:48this

00:54:49needs

00:54:50to be

00:54:51implemented

00:54:52on a

00:54:53large

00:54:54scale

00:54:55and

00:54:56not

00:54:57only

00:54:58health

00:54:59and

00:55:00safety

00:55:01but

00:55:02also

00:55:03safety

00:55:04and

00:55:05safety

00:55:06of

00:55:07patients.

00:55:08So,

00:55:09this

00:55:10is

00:55:11a

00:55:12very

00:55:13wrong

00:55:14approach

00:55:15and

00:55:16it

00:55:17is

00:55:18a

00:55:19very

00:55:20wrong

00:55:21approach

00:55:22and

00:55:23it

00:55:24is

00:55:25a

00:55:26very

00:55:27wrong

00:55:28approach

00:55:29and

00:55:30it

00:55:31is

00:55:32a

00:55:33very

00:55:34wrong

00:55:35approach

00:55:36and

00:55:37it

00:55:38is

00:55:39a

00:55:40very

00:55:41wrong

00:55:42approach

00:55:43and

00:55:44it

00:55:45is

00:55:46a

00:55:47very

00:55:48wrong

00:55:49approach

00:55:50and

00:55:51as

00:55:52well

00:55:53as

00:55:54as

00:55:55a

00:55:56majority

00:55:57So, we need to do renal adjustment on it.

00:56:00So, the same dose which we can give to a normal patient,

00:56:03we have to give it to such patients after renal dose adjustment,

00:56:07who already have some other disease.

00:56:09Have you ever seen a patient in whom this resistance has developed?

00:56:13Yes, a lot.

00:56:14And how do you treat it?

00:56:15Let me tell you an example.

00:56:16Take the example of typhoid.

00:56:18You must have heard about it.

00:56:21And we see such patients on a daily basis.

00:56:25The antibiotic with which the typhoid was sensitive before,

00:56:30or with which the typhoid gerasim used to respond,

00:56:32now with the passage of time,

00:56:34resistant typhoid is developing,

00:56:36which we call as XDR typhoid or multidrug resistant typhoid.

00:56:39So, the antibiotic which used to cover the typhoid 5-6 years ago,

00:56:46now it is not working on it.

00:56:48And now let me tell you that XDR typhoid has only 2 antibiotics left,

00:56:52which are resistant to XDR typhoid.

00:56:54And there is only one in it, which is the oral antibiotic.

00:56:58One is the IV antibiotic,

00:57:01and we usually reserve it for very severe and complicated infections.

00:57:06Usually, it was used for meningitis infection.

00:57:09But now, because XDR typhoid is not sensitive to any other antibiotic,

00:57:16then that antibiotic has to be used.

00:57:19Briefly, tell me one last thing,

00:57:21anti-allergy or antibiotic?

00:57:23Not the same thing.

00:57:25Not the same thing.

00:57:26They are totally different categories of medications.

00:57:28Anti-allergic is used to control allergy.

00:57:31And it is safer to use anti-allergy.

00:57:33So, it depends again on the indication.

00:57:36Usually, anti-allergic does not play a role in infection.

00:57:39Anti-allergic plays a role in asthma,

00:57:42or if you have any allergic conditions, then it depends on that.

00:57:45So, I would like to give this message to our viewers from your program,

00:57:49that you should avoid any self-medication,

00:57:52whether it is anti-allergic or antibiotic.

00:57:55Go to a qualified doctor,

00:57:57and after proper indication,

00:57:59with proper dosing, you should use it.

00:58:01And if it is not necessary, then do not use it.

00:58:05Viral infections are self-limiting infections.

00:58:08And in that, primary and secondary infections also come with viral.

00:58:12Absolutely.

00:58:13But I asked you, what is the difference between the generations of antibiotics?

00:58:17In primary and secondary infections,

00:58:19and also in viral infections,

00:58:21usually, when the initial presentation of the disease comes,

00:58:24in the beginning, clinically, unless you test it,

00:58:26that is a different thing.

00:58:28But clinically, it is a little difficult to differentiate it sometimes.

00:58:32So, in that case, if your doctor initially feels that

00:58:35it is a viral presentation and there is no need for antibiotics,

00:58:38then that is absolutely fine.

00:58:40You can do this, that you can keep a close follow-up of your doctor.

00:58:43And your doctor can tell you that,

00:58:45brother, if you have severity or complications are increasing,

00:58:49or these things are happening, which are favoring bacteria, bacterial infection,

00:58:53then you can use antibiotics.

00:58:55Right.

00:58:56So, I think education of people is very important.

00:58:59Okay. Thank you so much, Rabia Syed.

00:59:02You came and explained.

00:59:04I am sure that my dear viewers,

00:59:06you must have benefited from it.

00:59:08The medical store should also pay attention to it.

00:59:10There are a lot of legislations, but the implementation is needed.

00:59:13Because even today, if you go out of the house,

00:59:15send a 10-year-old child to go and get these antibiotics,

00:59:17then he will do it himself.

00:59:19And take the recommendation from the doctor and then use it.

00:59:21Take a break and come back after the break.

00:59:28Welcome back once again.

00:59:29And in Karachi, a lot of happenings are happening.

00:59:32Masha Allah. Masha Allah.

00:59:33We are seeing a lot in many expo centers.

00:59:35A lot of demonstrations are taking place.

00:59:37Right now, a defense demonstration is going on in Karachi.

00:59:39Ideas demonstration is going on.

00:59:41It is a four-day defense demonstration.

00:59:43Yes, it will start from 19th to 22nd November.

00:59:46From 19th to 22nd November.

00:59:47The preparations are going on.

00:59:49As we can see, all the arrangements have been made.

00:59:53And it is very amazing.

00:59:54And we see that a lot of people take interest in it.

00:59:56Our representative Nazir Shah told us about this.

00:59:58He has compiled a report.

01:00:00Let us show you what is there in this demonstration.

01:00:11Defense Demonstration Ideas is one of the biggest defense demonstrations in the region.

01:00:16Where representatives from all over the world present their equipment and defense equipment.

01:00:23What preparations are being made for the big demonstration in the city.

01:00:27Come, let us show you.

01:00:29In Karachi Expo Center, the preparations for the 12th Ideas demonstration have reached the peak.

01:00:34This four-day demonstration, which was held on 19th to 22nd November,

01:00:38will get the attention of many countries in the world.

01:00:40In the defense demonstration, a number of activities are included, including the opening ceremony.

01:00:45In the demonstration, international seminars will be held on topics related to defense industries for national and non-national audiences.

01:00:52For which, strict security measures have been taken.

01:00:55In this, various law enforcement agencies and other agencies have cooperated.

01:01:02We have organized mock exercises and security plans.

01:01:10An automated number plate reading camera is being installed.

01:01:14A special control room is being created.

01:01:16In addition to this, all routes will be cleared by BD.

01:01:20And all the VVIPs and VIPs who will come here, will be given protection as per the blue book and protocol.

01:01:28And their clearance will be given.

01:01:30For this demonstration, full proof security arrangements have been made.

01:01:34In addition to the Expo Center, there is also a work of sterilization and beautification in various parts of the city.

01:01:42On the last day of the demonstration, a beautiful air show will be held on the beach for the citizens.

01:01:48Where the brave pilots of Pakistan will demonstrate their skills.

01:01:52Ideas Demonstration has become an excellent platform for the demonstration of new technologies and skills in the defense industry.

01:02:00Which is welcomed by the defense experts and observers from all over the world.

01:02:05With cameraman Zeeshan Margoob, Nazir Shah.

01:02:08Airways News, Karachi.

01:02:10We are very excited that this event is going to take place.

01:02:13Let's talk about it.

01:02:14Airways Marshal Retired Ijaz Mehmood Malik is present with us.

01:02:17Good morning.

01:02:18He is watching all the events here.

01:02:20Thank you so much for your time.

01:02:21How far have the preparations reached?

01:02:24We are seeing that we could not see anything behind the containers.

01:02:28So, Nazir Shah explained a little.

01:02:30You tell us further, what can we see in this compared to the last demonstration?

01:02:35First, let me tell you about its format.

01:02:40This is a global exhibition of defense equipment.

01:02:53This is the 12th edition.

01:02:59Defense Export Promotion Organization or DEPU.

01:03:04This is an institution of Ministry of Defense Production.

01:03:08They organize it.

01:03:12And on their behalf, Badr Expo Solution, which is the biggest event management company in Pakistan.

01:03:20They conduct it.

01:03:25What is its significance?

01:03:28Its biggest significance is that this mega event showcases the potential of our defense industry in the government and private sectors.

01:03:44For example, in the last edition of 2022, 537 companies participated and 38 countries were represented.

01:03:59This year, we expect that the number of registrations will be much higher than that.

01:04:10The second biggest aspect is that the defense production industry in Pakistan is producing all kinds of things according to the applications of air, land and sea.

01:04:24Whether it is a fighter plane, a trainer plane, or a weaponry craft of different sizes on the sea.

01:04:39You are talking about weapons.

01:04:42It is a very different time.

01:04:44Technology is being used a lot.

01:04:46There are pilotless aircraft.

01:04:48Will there be innovative ideas in this technology?

01:04:55This is a very big platform to show its research and development capability.

01:05:02Our defense-related software applications, artificial intelligence, and software integration to transform manual equipment indigenously.

01:05:20That is also a big strength of ours and a big market for it.

01:05:25So, it would be wrong to say that only conventional hardware cutting-edge technologies can be introduced here.

01:05:38Mr. Jha, there is one more thing.

01:05:40When there was a parade on the 23rd of March, we used to see what sophisticated weaponry we had.

01:05:51Now, these ideas are a way to show the world what we have.

01:05:55You must have seen the recent warfare, especially in Ukraine and Russia.

01:06:00Drones and UAVs play an important role in this.

01:06:04I went to Pakistan last time for the ideas exhibition.

01:06:08We are working a lot on drone technology.

01:06:11On surveillance vehicles and everything else.

01:06:14What more have we achieved in this?

01:06:17If you have seen the drone technology and displays of the last time,

01:06:23we have enhanced our capability very quickly.

01:06:29Before, we used to have small drones with low payload.

01:06:35Now, they are mostly used for surveillance.

01:06:39Now, drones have both civil and military applications.

01:06:45We are also fabricating large payload drones.

01:06:53They are also used for traffic management and other civil applications.

01:07:04When you go there, you will see for yourself.

01:07:12We are looking forward to that.

01:07:17Thank you so much for your time, sir.

01:07:19Mr. Ijaz Mahmood Malik was with us.

01:07:21Mr. Ijaz was saying that there will be more representatives from other countries.

01:07:24This is going to be a big event.

01:07:26It is not an easy task.

01:07:28Bringing weaponry and technology from all over Pakistan and presenting it to the world.

01:07:34Hats off to them.

01:07:35Let's take a break.

01:07:42Welcome back once again.

01:07:44In Karachi, there is a big issue of manishyat.

01:07:48It is being used a lot.

01:07:50We have told you that it is not only being supplied online.

01:07:54It is also being used by children.

01:07:57In schools and colleges.

01:07:59Now, a grand operation is being started against it.

01:08:02It has been going on for a long time.

01:08:04Mr. Sharjeel Inaam Aiman is with us.

01:08:06He is also the Minister of Information.

01:08:07He is also looking after this ministry.

01:08:09The most important thing is that since he has come,

01:08:11he has taken care of this ministry.

01:08:13We often see that big operations are being carried out.

01:08:16Mr. Sharjeel, we have been seeing a crackdown since today.

01:08:21What are the targets this time?

01:08:27Thank you very much for bringing such an important topic in your topic.

01:08:32Manishyat is spread all over Pakistan.

01:08:39There are different types of manishyat.

01:08:42There is heroin.

01:08:43There is chars.

01:08:44There is cocaine.

01:08:46Unfortunately, the elite class is more involved in it.

01:08:52But the most dangerous one is crystal meth.

01:08:58It destroys the mental power of a person.

01:09:04He does not know what is good or bad.

01:09:06Some people react like zombies.

01:09:10This is a big challenge for the whole of Pakistan.

01:09:13The work is being done very fast in the narcotics.

01:09:20President Asif Ali Zardari had become the president.

01:09:23He had given an order in the CM house.

01:09:27There should be action on it across Pakistan.

01:09:30He is taking it very fast.

01:09:33Mr. Sharjeel, we know that there is action against the manishyat sellers.

01:09:39But we do not know about the manishyat users.

01:09:43They can be seen in Lyari Expressway, Golimar, Sher Shah.

01:09:47They can be seen in different places.

01:09:49Will we not see such a clean-up operation after a few days?

01:09:54I cannot say that you will not see such a clean-up operation.

01:10:00But I can say that the vision of the Sindh government is very clear.

01:10:08There will be strict action against them.

01:10:10The heroin users are the ones you are talking about on the roads.

01:10:16The government does not arrest them.

01:10:18If you arrest them and take them to the police station,

01:10:22it is a different thing for them.

01:10:25Many people die because they do not get it.

01:10:28There are rehabilitation centers.

01:10:30Some rehabilitation centers are working in Sindh.

01:10:35There are 100 capacity centers.

01:10:38But there are a lot of volunteers who want to go to the rehabilitation centers.

01:10:47But the capacity of the rehabilitation centers is not that much.

01:10:51The private sector is also working.

01:10:53We are also going to start.

01:10:56We wish you the best, Mr. Shahjeel.

01:10:59It is a very good initiative.

01:11:01The public sector should also play its role in the rehabilitation centers.

01:11:04The government should also play its role.

01:11:06God willing, the situation will improve.

01:11:09Mr. Shahjeel Memon, thank you very much.

01:11:11The Minister of Information was with us.

01:11:13We tried our best to provide you with as much information as possible.

01:11:21You can make better decisions with the information you have.

01:11:25We also learn a lot from you.

01:11:29Give us your feedback.

01:11:31Be happy. Be prosperous.

01:11:33Allah Hafiz.

01:11:50For more information visit www.fema.gov

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