En una semana llena de noticias, se presenta una nueva teoría sobre lo ocurrido en el Naranjal que podría exonerar a tres personas inicialmente consideradas como sospechosas principales. Fuentes judiciales indican que la jueza encargada del caso iniciará una revisión exhaustiva de las pruebas y testimonios recopilados hasta ahora, incluyendo esta nueva hipótesis. La teoría propone un recorrido y serie de eventos que podrían cambiar el curso de la investigación.
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00:00This week is also a hot week of information, because we are going to analyze a presentation with Bobby Mena.
00:11We are going to return to El Naranjal, because there is a theory of the case, at least of what happened in El Naranjal,
00:20that could lead to the freedom of at least three people.
00:25And we are going to explain to you why three key people, at one time the main suspects,
00:34but this theory of the case shows you a series of movements and how the events could have been,
00:40that could make him run from responsibility.
00:43We have judicial sources that assure us that a stage of review of everything that has been done so far begins
00:49by the judge himself, who will analyze, for example, this theory that we are going to show you,
00:57in addition to, of course, all the corpus there is related to images, statements, evidence.
01:03Many are not finished yet. Bobby, how are you?
01:07Very well, Pablo, and we want to talk again about the OAN.
01:11This is also the objective, to face this information that we bring you today,
01:15which is incorporated in the cause, and that, you see, it is said, well, the crazy people and the kids lie to us.
01:22Well, basically, it is based on the testimony of the children.
01:26Yes.
01:28There, where we all boast that adults lie to us, well, this that we are going to tell you,
01:34has as a main anchor point, what the boys say in the cause, through the GC cameras.
01:41Where do they detect and what do they say about the OAN? Where do they not see it anymore?
01:47What do they hear them say? And where does the boy manifest himself to hurt the boys?
01:53Here we leave the adults aside. Of course the adults are in this story.
01:57And if we follow this course, of course, the surprising, the disturbing thing is that three that one would say,
02:02hey, this is going to be until the end of the days, because they are the last ones who came to be in contact with the boy,
02:08they cannot not know what happened to him.
02:12However, however, in this theory they could be left out of a primary responsibility and they could be left free.
02:18Totally. That is why I want to analyze this theory that, of course, is in the hands of justice, which has already been raised.
02:25I do not want to reveal yet who raises it, because here what we are going to analyze with Bobby will allow us,
02:32at least from the point of view of this theory of the case,
02:35which is not the same as the theory of the case of the lawyers of Carlos Pérez,
02:41which is not the same as the theory of the case of Juan Pablo Gallego and Roberto Méndez,
02:46who are the lawyers of the family, a family that reappeared, reappeared in the last days,
02:52in a place, we have some images, some photos, for now we are not going to publish them,
02:57we are waiting for them to reappear and speak.
03:01This theory, in addition, as the main axis, has to move away from the main logical and natural hypothesis.
03:11We have two key points. Starting point, grandmother's house, they go to the orange grove.
03:17Last point, where we always think, hey, that's where something happened to Lohan,
03:22that's how far they got with Lohan, from there the extraction point must be on someone's side.
03:27No, this theory is different, it moves some away from the responsibility and brings others closer.
03:35The actors change.
03:37Let's contextualize you first, before Bobby explains to us.
03:40I'm going to mark you main points.
03:44When you see point B, let's start with point B, point B is the place where everything happens.
03:52In Catalina's house.
03:54It's the starting point.
03:55The starting point.
03:57Point A is the place where they realize that Lohan does not appear.
04:04There is a place that does not have a point by a letter, but we could call it point C or point 0.
04:11Point 0, which is down here, which is where the orange grove is.
04:15The route, sorry, the route, sorry, the step near the grove, which is a dirt road,
04:26goes through Catalina's house, and this is the road that we went to go through.
04:31Let's try to simplify it.
04:33For a moment, you see that there are a lot of little colored signs here, don't pay attention to them.
04:37For the moment, focus on what we are going to tell you.
04:40Above everything, where point B is, which for the moment, yes, you can see it, perfect, perfect.
04:45That's where they come from.
04:47That's Catalina's grandmother's house, and that's where they go to the orange grove.
04:52Focus on that, that's the starting point.
04:54And then the other point of interest.
04:56On this road, we always think, on this road, you see, you can see the route.
05:01It's a dirt road, sand road, it's the one in the famous photo,
05:04where you can see the kids in the distance, and the last ones are Laudelina, Camila,
05:11no, Laudelina and Monica, because the one who gets them out is Camila.
05:15That's the road that we all always think they used, the main one.
05:20You focus on that.
05:22Grandma's house, this main road, and down here, and here where I point you now,
05:27here, this is the orange grove.
05:28This is the orange grove.
05:30For now, let's connect those two points, because that's where they started,
05:34and they came to this orange grove, right?
05:37To supposedly look for oranges.
05:39Now we're starting to complicate it a little bit, and here we need you to follow us and pay attention to us.
05:44Because, of course, this is the road that adults and children use.
05:50But there is someone who knows this place, who is from Baquia, who plays local, and it's Benítez.
05:56So, Benítez, when he goes ahead of the group to supposedly look for oranges,
06:03he doesn't come through that truncated path where we saw the photo, which would be the main place.
06:10He comes through an internal path.
06:12Which is the one that is marked with light blue.
06:14Exactly.
06:16That is the route from Benítez to the orange grove, where he walks 517 meters.
06:20Why? Because he saves meters.
06:23Someone who knows the place goes inside, so to speak.
06:27He doesn't go through the longest path, but he goes inside because he knows it.
06:31He doesn't get lost.
06:33What you see there is what is called a cut.
06:35When you go to a national park, or you go to explore, whatever, it's a small path.
06:39It's not like the other one.
06:41A small path that you can walk through.
06:43Let's see, we have it here in light blue.
06:44This is the route from Benítez.
06:46Which, of course, comes out much earlier.
06:49Benítez proposes, according to this theory of the case, he proposes to Ramírez.
06:54And he tells him, I'm going to look for oranges to take to the village.
06:57And in principle, only to Ramírez.
06:59In principle, only to Ramírez, who is his friend, who tells him, hey, they already ate and so on.
07:03The women are taking care of the trough for the people of the place.
07:07The services, the women there washing and so on.
07:09And he says, I'm going to look for oranges.
07:12That there, in the Tapera de Caballero, because the locals, those who are from there, talk about the Tapera del Caballero.
07:18We later talked about the orange tree and it was periodically installed as the orange tree.
07:22But he talks about the Tapera de Caballero.
07:24There is a tree that has the reference, which has many oranges.
07:27I'm going to look for it with a bag, and then take each one to the village.
07:31Do you accompany me? And Ramírez always says, no, I'm very full, I'm very full.
07:36He ate two dishes.
07:38Of the noodles with stew, he ate two dishes.
07:41So he's full.
07:43Well, he leaves, he leaves ten minutes before the rest.
07:45On this way, by the Celeste.
07:47Which is not the other way, which is where we journalists go, even with 4x4.
07:52No, he goes this way and several minutes later.
07:56Between 10 or 15.
07:58Ramírez changes his mind.
08:00Why? Because his wife finishes cleaning.
08:02He is aware of the woman.
08:04And we also remember that it was with a son, with nephews.
08:07But of course, he does not know anyone.
08:10And he had already told us that when he arrived, they were almost Peres and Caillava.
08:14Another social stratum.
08:17As if the situation was bothering him.
08:19Then he changes his mind, those 10, 15 minutes.
08:22His friend, his friend, who is Benite, left.
08:24The woman, when she finishes giving a hand with cleaning the tray.
08:27She says, hey, let's walk a little, let's go where Benite is.
08:29So we do the digestion, we walk.
08:32Well, she resists at first.
08:34But no, that is not far away.
08:36And it is Audelina who intervenes.
08:38No, it's not that far.
08:40Well, let's go, she says.
08:42But until then, Audelina thought that the oranges were going to look elsewhere.
08:45Not where Benite was.
08:47Then they start a tour.
08:49And there all the boys who were playing in the parking area, let's call it us.
08:54That's where they left the horse.
08:56And where they left the cars.
08:57Next to Catalina's house.
08:59Where are they going? Ask the boys, where are they going?
09:02No, let's look for oranges.
09:04Who takes the boys?
09:06Well, Ramírez tells Millapi, Millapi talks to Audelina.
09:11And Audelina and Camila Peña finally take the rest of the boys, including Loan.
09:17Without permission from that dad who was talking to Carlos Pérez.
09:21They never tell him.
09:23Now, what is the route?
09:24Let's go back to the map.
09:26What is the route that Camila, Audelina, the boys and Ramírez take?
09:34Yes, Ramírez is well ahead.
09:36He is also ahead of that second group.
09:39The first one who left is Benite.
09:41They go in two sections.
09:43This group is like Ramírez goes well ahead until he can get to a place.
09:46And then he doesn't know how.
09:48They take the main road.
09:50Sure, that's what I wanted to tell you.
09:52The one with the longest route.
09:54He comes here, Benitez.
09:56And they don't know very well until they get to a ditch.
09:59That ditch is more or less in the middle of the road.
10:02It's around here.
10:04There is a ditch that is about 300 meters.
10:06And he gets there believing that he could get to the end.
10:09Damn, there he got to the ditch.
10:11And from here, how do I continue?
10:13Ramírez says that he is not from the place.
10:15He doesn't know the field.
10:17So, he stays waiting for the boys to arrive and for Audelina to arrive.
10:20So, when Audelina arrives, he says, Audelina, listen to me.
10:22Where is where your husband Benitez went?
10:25And she gives him the directions.
10:27So, just there, from here, which is halfway,
10:30he begins with Audelina's directions to complete the route to this place.
10:37Exactly.
10:39I'm almost getting to where Pablo is.
10:41Here, here is what for us is the orange field.
10:43For them, it is the horse stable.
10:45The boys also got there.
10:47While they were arriving,
10:49Monica, Miyapi,
10:50Audelina and Camila stay and return.
10:52They leave their children, sorry, their children and their nephew
10:56to go with Ramírez, Miyapi and the rest of the boys.
10:59And they return.
11:01They all end up getting lost in this place.
11:03And when they arrive, they find Benitez with a tacuara
11:07hitting the top of the tree to remove the few oranges that were there.
11:11I don't want to overlook a fact that you just gave.
11:14Follow us in this sequence, because it is key.
11:16And it is different where you have to orient the disappearance of Loan.
11:22Because until now we always talked about what was around here.
11:26And now you will see that it is not.
11:28I don't want to overlook something that Pablo said.
11:30Audelina and Camila return.
11:33And that is not a minor fact.
11:35And even for me, at one point, it can be suspicious.
11:38But I don't want to condition anyone.
11:40Why? Because they decide to return.
11:42There are also oranges in other sectors.
11:43So when they notice that Benitez went to the top of Caballero,
11:48Camila and Audelina turn around.
11:51But they turn around in a curious way.
11:53Of course, the boys want to continue.
11:55They are boys, they want to continue playing with the other boys.
11:57It is an excursion, it is an adventure.
11:59And then notice how striking it is.
12:01Because if we believe them, it is because it is far away.
12:04But it is inconvenient.
12:06Audelina returns.
12:08And Audelina had authorized to take her own son, but also Loan,
12:11who is the youngest of the group.
12:13And she leaves him alone.
12:15And she leaves him alone, alone in quotation marks.
12:17But she, who should be the adult who should be most aware,
12:21because she is the one who authorized to take him,
12:23even without the announcement of the father,
12:25decides to return and does not return with the boy.
12:28Or she doesn't decide, well, even when I'm tired,
12:30I stay because I take care of taking care of Loan, who is the youngest.
12:34And the same goes for Camila.
12:36I know that you, Camila,
12:38It is the question that we all have.
12:39You have a bond, you believe her,
12:41it always sounded very sincere to us,
12:43but it is also striking that Camila returns
12:46and leaves the care of others,
12:48to her daughter, who is the second youngest after Loan.
12:52So Camila and Audelina, from here,
12:55from here approximately,
12:57they return to the grandmother's house
12:59and those who follow are already,
13:01in this section,
13:03only Ramirez and Mijapi with so many boys,
13:06because there are also the nephews,
13:07Ramirez and Mijapi,
13:09with so many boys,
13:11this section is done only by the two of them,
13:13but finally they arrive,
13:15nothing happened in this section,
13:17they arrive at the orange tree and meet Benitez,
13:19they meet there, Benitez told you,
13:21with a taquara,
13:23suddenly he sits down after lowering some oranges,
13:25all the boys say,
13:27Ramirez says, there are not so many oranges as I thought.
13:29No, well, but above, look,
13:31then with a stick they try to lower oranges
13:33and there suddenly, at one point,
13:35they start to rest,
13:37and apparently,
13:39and according to what the boys say,
13:41no longer in the last camera,
13:43but already in the first reconstructions
13:45that were carried out by the police of the province,
13:47which are registered,
13:49they talk about that Loan
13:51already had an orange in his hand,
13:53bald,
13:55and another orange,
13:57it is important to have a second orange,
13:59why?
14:01Because apparently,
14:03according to what the boys say,
14:05while they were running around,
14:07Ramirez was the leader of the group.
14:09But something happens in the middle,
14:11follow us in the sequence,
14:13they are all here,
14:15they arrived at the orange tree,
14:17Laudelina and Camila claimed before
14:19and returned to the grandmother's house,
14:21here we have all the boys,
14:23six in total,
14:25and three adults,
14:27Benitez, Ramirez and Miyapi,
14:29what happens while they are here?
14:31Ramirez receives a call,
14:33Ramirez has his brother hospitalized,
14:35and they call him,
14:37Miyapi, who is worried,
14:39Monica Miyapi, for her husband,
14:41they disagree,
14:43supposedly, according to the story of the boys,
14:45the call exists,
14:47the call is registered,
14:49and lasts nine minutes,
14:51from 14.09 to 14.18,
14:53Ramirez moves away a little
14:55to talk to the boys,
14:57who are shouting,
14:59they are playing,
15:01he needs to know how his brother is,
15:03what news is there,
15:05he is hospitalized,
15:07he is worried about his husband,
15:09he is also waiting,
15:11as if we were Pablo and I,
15:13to see what he hears,
15:15what he rescues from the conversation
15:17that his husband is having,
15:19what news is there,
15:21and the boys are all with Benitez,
15:23that is a key moment,
15:25they turn around,
15:27the boys are still playing,
15:29and suddenly they say,
15:31let's go back,
15:33that physical space has a particularity,
15:35in honor of the truth,
15:37that it is all as if it were an igloo,
15:39an igloo,
15:41but of nature,
15:43there inside,
15:45with a tree,
15:47with many roots,
15:49on which they sit,
15:51if you try to see outside,
15:53it is as if it were a tent,
15:55you cannot see,
15:57because of the vegetation,
15:59the matter is that the call ends,
16:01the three adults get together again,
16:03and they leave there,
16:05and look,
16:07they are 14, 18,
16:0914, 20 approximately,
16:11and now yes,
16:13they follow this red path,
16:15they go out,
16:17and here is the point where,
16:19on the way,
16:21Mónica Millapi,
16:23the only woman left,
16:25says, hey, count the heads,
16:27and one is missing,
16:29then, as there was wind,
16:31and Benitez was shouting at her,
16:33and Benitez who was going later,
16:35did not hear her,
16:37and they tell Benitez,
16:39that a boy is missing,
16:41and it is he who, looking,
16:43says, it is Loan.
16:45Yes, of course,
16:47until then they did not even know the name,
16:49supposedly,
16:51Millapi and Ramírez,
16:53look at this,
16:55here they lose sight of him,
16:57here they tell Benitez,
16:59that he was already returning,
17:01but on the way they had taken,
17:03Ramírez and Camila,
17:05the whole group,
17:07sorry,
17:09one thing is to do it alone,
17:11that out there you can scrape,
17:13with some branch,
17:15with some foliage,
17:17already being,
17:19the boys decide,
17:21I suppose that is the reasoning,
17:23to return here,
17:25which is a more friendly way.
17:27Well, what was the question?
17:29Because in this place,
17:31supposedly,
17:33being here in the letter A,
17:35is the place where they warn Benitez,
17:37when they started talking,
17:39that Loan had gone near his father,
17:41but you look at the distance there is.
17:43Yes, there the one who speaks,
17:45sorry, there the one who speaks,
17:47is the son of Benitez,
17:49why?
17:51Because we give importance to this theory,
17:53because it is the boys,
17:55in reality,
17:57who give the main data.
17:59So when Monica Millapi says
18:01that she warns that a boy is missing,
18:03sends a nephew to reach Benitez,
18:05they warn Benitez,
18:07they warn the boys,
18:09and she realizes that it is Loan,
18:11she says, it is Loan who is missing,
18:13the youngest,
18:15it is strange that it is the youngest
18:17that no one warns,
18:19and this is where then,
18:21the boy of Benitez and Laudelina says,
18:23ah, he said that he was returning home,
18:25that he was returning with his father,
18:27so this is where they collect that data.
18:29Yes, once they have that data,
18:31once they have that data,
18:33look, the red line,
18:35is the one that shows you that Benitez,
18:37not only Benitez,
18:39but also Ramírez,
18:41return after their steps to Naranjal,
18:43and here something happens
18:45that also draws attention,
18:47and that has drawn a lot of attention to José,
18:49why?
18:51Because at that moment,
18:53while Loan was being searched,
18:55Ramírez and Benitez are divided
18:57and they take two different paths,
18:59and at the same time,
19:01Monica Millapi decides to take the boys
19:03to the main helmet,
19:05that is, to return on their steps
19:07no longer looking for the boy,
19:09but with the hope
19:11that the boy could have already returned
19:13through one of these paths.
19:15She is going to check that,
19:17because here,
19:19when they warn that the boy is not there,
19:21this is where the famous call is made,
19:23Benitez to Laudelina,
19:25at first,
19:27according to their story,
19:29to tell her, hey,
19:31we lost Loan,
19:33he came back,
19:35and he was going to say the name of his son,
19:37he came back to the house,
19:39he has arrived,
19:41or look if he is about to arrive,
19:43go to the step,
19:45to see if indeed,
19:47the boy is returning home.
19:49It is from here that this call is made.
19:51Exactly.
19:53The two adult men
19:55return to Naranjal,
19:57warn that here they do not find the boy,
19:59these are minutes,
20:01they do not find him,
20:03they do not find him,
20:05they do not find him,
20:07they are separated,
20:09one further east, Ramírez,
20:11the other further west, Benítez.
20:14That is why when José arrives,
20:16Benítez tells him,
20:18no, do not look there,
20:20because we are already looking,
20:22and there, of course,
20:24begins the intrigue of what happened,
20:26if he got lost.
20:28Up to that point,
20:30clearly,
20:32this situation,
20:34if it is like this,
20:35one of the three
20:37could have been taken,
20:39raised,
20:41and there appears the possibility
20:43that there is a fourth man
20:45with the difficulties of this theory,
20:47which is,
20:49how is it that Benítez
20:51was so smart that he planned
20:53that going alone to Naranjal,
20:55they were going to take all the boys
20:57to the trail,
20:59when in reality he left
21:0110-15 minutes before,
21:03there begins to be problems
21:05and we begin to conjecture hypothesis.
21:07The objective fact
21:09is that we always think
21:11that there were three adults
21:13who out there in a kind of
21:15confabulation, plot, agreement,
21:17whatever it was,
21:19deployed a maneuver
21:21to take him away from the father,
21:23and this is objectively true,
21:25with the excuse of the orange,
21:27as it is,
21:29the father was supposedly not warned
21:31and they take him 600 meters
21:33from the father's sight,
21:35and up to here they brought him
21:37to the boy,
21:39which from here had been
21:41the point of extraction.
21:43In addition, it makes sense to think
21:45as far as possible from the house,
21:47that from here a third person
21:49appeared on the scene,
21:51or one of these three is lying to us,
21:53is not telling us the truth,
21:55and did something to the boy.
21:57We always think it was here.
21:59Now, if we ride on the data
22:01and the story of the boys,
22:03as a story that is not false,
22:05to make it disappear,
22:07they are boys,
22:09then it is no longer from here,
22:11but it is much sooner,
22:13or close to the house,
22:15and with a supposedly Lohan boy
22:17returning to the house.
22:19Then something happened here,
22:21and not from here to the other side.
22:23Well, there opens
22:25a whole interrogation.
22:27Jorge, how are you?
22:29Good afternoon.
22:31Thank you for participating.
22:33This analysis we are doing
22:35by one of the lawyers.
22:37This theory, for me,
22:39from the point of view of the theory,
22:41beyond the responsibilities
22:43for the care of the minors,
22:45does not show you the possibility
22:47that one of the three
22:49has risen and taken Lohan.
22:51Now, it shows, for example,
22:53the irresponsibility of Laudelina,
22:55possibly the irresponsibility
22:57also of Camila,
22:59especially with the newspaper Luhn.
23:01But that does not make them criminals.
23:03No.
23:05Lohan went alone.
23:07Therefore, Benítez,
23:09Benítez, on time ...
23:11If Benítez was there,
23:13sorry, now we have a background,
23:15but if Benítez was at point A
23:17with the boys,
23:19with some of the boys,
23:21and we believe the boys,
23:23or one in particular,
23:25who says Lohan left,
23:27went home,
23:29then to the point where Benítez arrives
23:31with the rest of the boys,
23:33it is open field.
23:35You have to believe him
23:37that in this place,
23:39which is an open place,
23:41here Benítez is in the sight
23:43of Ramírez and Millapi.
23:45He has no way to hide the boy,
23:47he can not have him under his arm.
23:49Or he did something and gave it to someone before,
23:51or he did something to the boy
23:53without the rest of the boys seeing him,
23:55or here he is exposed,
23:57this is clear,
23:59he is exposed to the sight of everyone.
24:01So, if we believe this theory,
24:03Ramírez and Millapi never had the opportunity
24:05that two adults are put
24:07to be attentive to a call of adults
24:09and they misunderstand the boys.
24:11Except that, which is rare.
24:13But then, this theory
24:15would remove the responsibility
24:17of the three that we always think
24:19that the three can not stop being.
24:21The main suspects of the cause
24:23with this theory, Jorge,
24:25what do you think can happen
24:27in case there is no strong evidence
24:29against them
24:31and that this theory prevails?
24:33Let's talk by part.
24:35Not the evidence,
24:37but the evidence there is.
24:39If what you just narrated
24:41is so precise,
24:43you would leave everyone free.
24:45It means that if I judge,
24:47I see this and I say,
24:49but who took him?
24:51But who was alone and gave it to him?
24:53The mere fact that the father
24:55has not given permission in the field
24:57is normal.
24:59It is not that one is here in the city
25:01that has to give permission
25:03to make two blocks.
25:05I would tell you that he did not say
25:07that he was lost,
25:09Puma, Jacaré and others were lost
25:11in that place.
25:13Twenty minutes later,
25:15the family went to look for him.
25:17Jorge, and if Lohan was lost at first?
25:19And if Lohan was lost at first
25:21and appeared that day,
25:23that early morning,
25:25as they said,
25:27through the radio
25:29of Commissar Maciel,
25:31who heard, who told them
25:33that they had found him
25:35and that he was the son
25:37of a lost child,
25:39it may be, because you have to go back
25:41to such a small boy
25:43on one of these paths.
25:45If Lohan was really lost,
25:47they are all badly detained,
25:49not just the three.
25:51If it is true that he was lost
25:53and at the time they were looking for him,
25:55not only the relatives,
25:57but almost part of the people
25:59and the justice,
26:01they looked the other way.
26:03Lohan cannot disappear there,
26:05because no one sees him
26:07and he gave him to Lohan.
26:09There is no way that Lohan
26:11was lost in that place.
26:13And from now on,
26:15with this theory,
26:17we begin to conjecture things.
26:19Because if the boy,
26:21it is true that he decides
26:23from this point,
26:25more than 600 meters,
26:27and a small boy
26:29and who does not know the place.
26:31The boy was going,
26:33practically for the first time,
26:35to the house.
26:37So,
26:39here we begin to conjecture.
26:41Could he have been lost?
26:43Could he have been lost?
26:45How not to find him?
26:47The problem is that.
26:49It is not that he has not been lost.
26:51Then everything else,
26:53you say,
26:55could he have had an accident,
26:57poor thing,
26:59alone,
27:01in this whole section?
27:03He could have had it.
27:05Let's see,
27:07it also coincides,
27:09if the boy comes back,
27:11there is someone who coincides,
27:13that he leaves.
27:15But how could he know
27:17that marriage,
27:19that he leaves with his car,
27:21that just the boy was going to decide to return?
27:23Yes, attention,
27:25because this opens again the possibility
27:27or the theory of the accident.