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00:00Is Polaris in trouble? The Razor gets HVAC, Sarah Price gets a factory Can-Am ride to
00:07Dakar, and we go for a night ride in Utah. This is the UTV Driver Podcast. I'm Editor-in-Chief
00:13Zach Bowman. I am joined today by Executive Editor Aaron Richardson. Aaron, how's it going?
00:19Dude, everything is great in Virginia. We're finally starting to get some fall weather.
00:24Leaves are coming off the trees. It's nice and crisp out. And I just got back from Utah,
00:28so I'm feeling great. I had a really good time. Everything's great.
00:34Riding season. Let's start with the biggest news of the week. It was a little bit of shock
00:39for just about everybody. Polaris released its new earnings report, and boy, is it not
00:46great.
00:47No.
00:48It turns out the company said earnings are down 82% over the previous year, and if it
00:54continues that way, the company's looking at losing about 20% worth of profits compared
01:00to 2023. What is going on?
01:03Yeah. As crazy as that is, it's not really a surprise. We've had high interest rates
01:09all year. They're starting to come down, but they're still way above where they were, like
01:12say during the pandemic. There's been uncertainty around the election, and a lot of people who
01:18wanted a side-by-side bought one in the last couple of years, at least since the pandemic.
01:24Now there's a bunch of inventory sitting at dealers. The supply chain issues are over,
01:29and so I think there's an overcompensation for all of the hardship there was getting
01:34stuff in the last couple of years. Now here we sit with demand is lower and supply is high.
01:41Here we are.
01:42Yeah, exactly.
01:43Yeah. Holy crap. I can't remember the last time I drove by a dealer and didn't see just a fleet
01:49of side-by-sides sitting outside. That's not just Polaris. That's just about everybody.
01:54I wonder if we're seeing a return to normal. It's weird to say that four years after the
02:03official pandemic that we're still seeing some sort of normalization, but I think that very much
02:09might be the case. Because like you said, if you were stuck at home and looking for ways to spend
02:15time with your family that wasn't Disney World, a side-by-side made a perfect solution for that,
02:19so you probably bought one. The machines have gotten so good at this point that you don't need
02:24to replace it every year or every four years, so there's a good chance that there's a certain
02:29amount of market saturation that's happening there.
02:32Yeah, and I also wonder if we're seeing a correction in what people are purchasing,
02:37not just whether they're buying a side-by-side or not. But anecdotally,
02:41I think I mentioned this in the last podcast, talking to my local power sports dealer that
02:45started selling Polaris this year. They're having no trouble moving Rangers. They said
02:49they sell like 15 Rangers a month or some insane thing. So utility rigs, at least for one small
02:56portion of the market here in Virginia, are moving. So I wonder if we put Polaris and whoever
03:03else built a bunch of sport rigs and people are less interested in those now than they were during
03:08the last couple of years. So I'm willing to look at this as kind of, like I said, a correction
03:14rather than, you know, if it happens again next year, then we'll really start to worry.
03:20Yeah. I mean, I certainly don't blame people, right? I mean, I certainly feel like I have less
03:26dumb money sitting around than I did maybe three years ago, two years ago. Some of that's inflation,
03:31right? Everything just seems to cost more and at the end of the day, you've got less in the
03:35piggy bank for toys, you know? And I don't think I'm alone in that experience. So yeah, you know,
03:41if you're looking at the difference between, well, I need to put a little bit of cash aside,
03:45or man, it sure would be nice to have a new Mavar or a new Razor, you know, that's the way you're
03:50going to go. You know, what's interesting is Polaris isn't the only company running into this,
03:56right? Every major power sports manufacturer is hitting this. I saw a rash of Harley Davidson
04:01closings. CanAm's earnings report was also not great this last quarter. You know, we're certainly
04:09seeing a correction back from the sort of ooey gooey glory days of 2020. So I don't know, it
04:17certainly sucks for Polaris. They haven't said anything about layoffs so far. They still seem
04:22committed to cranking out a bunch of good new products, which I guess brings us along to our
04:29next story. We went rooting around in the patent office and it looks like Polaris is getting ready
04:36to really revamp the Razor in a big way. What are they up to? So it looks like that they have
04:43an enclosed Razor on the way. Everything that the patent drawings show is windows, doors, front and
04:50rear windshields, HVAC, and a 360 degree camera. So you can get, you know, a full panorama of what's
04:57going on around you. And it looks really cool. And I have to say, I feel like it's about time,
05:03right? Polaris has, not to say that they've been resting on their laurels, but Polaris has a bunch
05:09of machines with really excellent HVAC. You know, they're starting to bring the quality of their
05:15interiors up. We've seen it with the Expedition. We've seen it with the Ranger 1500 or XD 1500.
05:21And so now it's kind of like, well, the next step is Razor, right? And, you know, it kind of goes
05:28hand in hand with, we've always said that, you know, Polaris is, they're really accessible
05:33machines. They're easy to drive. They're easy to get along with. Even the Monster Pro-R is super
05:38easy to get along with for anybody. And so adding this extra degree of comfort and luxury, you know,
05:43it makes sense. And we don't see a ton of sports side-by-sides with enclosed cabs. It's certainly
05:50not from the factory. You know, you can do it if you want to spend a lot of money in the
05:53aftermarket, but I don't think Can-Am sells one, you know, so it's tough to get ahold of and,
05:59you know, it goes back to correcting the losses from this year. And also, you know, you've got
06:07growing brands from across the sea, from, you know, CFMoto and stuff like that. So Polaris
06:13is definitely seeing a need to change what it's doing or update the machines it's already making.
06:19Yeah, I think what you said there is really worth pointing out, right? This isn't,
06:23at least according to these patent drawings, this isn't an accessory package. This is like a fully
06:29sealed factory rig. And, you know, obviously Polaris has taken what it's learned from machines
06:35like the Expedition and attempting to apply it here, which is exciting. You know, I think,
06:42especially if you're trying to lure in people who aren't dyed-in-the-wool riders, who aren't,
06:48you know, power sports people and maybe haven't been for the majority of their life,
06:52they're going to want those creature comforts. You know, if you're coming from a four-door Wrangler
06:57and you get into a four-door RZR and it's hot and you're dusty or you're muddy or you're wet or
07:03whatever, that's not everybody's cup of tea, you know, and it's a lot easier to sell to the family
07:07when you're like, yeah, just jump in and you'll be fine and comfy and all the rest of that. I think
07:11it's a really smart play. And honestly, when you start to look at the sort of MSRPs, the new
07:19sport rigs are commanding, yeah, why wouldn't it have HVAC? If I can go down to the Toyota dealer
07:26and buy a two-door, you know, base Tacoma for 36 grand that has heat and HVAC and windows and
07:32wipers and all the rest of that stuff, why doesn't my $50,000 RZR have that stuff, you know?
07:37Yeah, I think that's true. And I was just about to say, I think it'll be interesting to see
07:41which RZRs they put this on, right? Because, you know, a Pro-R with an enclosed cab and HVAC is
07:49going to cost a pretty penny. But, you know, I think fewer families are interested in the 225
07:55horsepower whoops eater than they are in like a RZR XP or a RZR Pro XP. The patent drawing appeared
08:02to show a RZR Pro platform, but I think this would really make sense on like the 100 horsepower RZR XP
08:08for put HVAC and a cab on that and then, you know, your kids aren't going to get muddy and
08:15wet and cold. You know, if you put two 10-year-olds in the back, you're going to have way less to
08:18complain about. So, yeah, I think it makes a huge amount of sense. It just kind of all that's left
08:23now is to wait and see when we see it, you know? I hope that their earnings report doesn't, you
08:29know, adjust fire. Yeah, right. Yeah, I mean, I'll be interested to see whether it's going to be more
08:35in, you know, because Polaris, great, right? Like we've seen basically two different flavors
08:42of enclosed cab. You get the XD 1500, which is quiet and comfortable. And, you know, it's awesome.
08:48And then you get the Expedition, which is sealed, but it sounds like you're riding along in a 55
08:54gallon drum, right? It's just it is so loud in there. And part of that's just because the noise
09:00from the engine and transmission doesn't have anywhere to go. So it just bounces around inside
09:03the cab. And, you know, you probably should be wearing ear protection when you're riding in that
09:08rig, which is not a thing that we typically say with side-by-sides. Yeah. If it's more along the
09:13XD 1500 lines where they've sort of figured out how to get the noise out and away from the rig
09:18and the occupants, rock and roll. I am 100% all for it. If it's more along the Expedition line,
09:25oh man, that's going to be tough. That's going to be tough. I think I agree with you, but I think
09:30that it might be a little bit different in the case of the Razor, because if you look at any of
09:33the Razors, they have that little tiny bed, but where the engine sits is well back and below
09:39where people sit, even in the four-seaters. One of the issues with the Expedition is that,
09:44especially in the ADV model, sort of SUV form factor, your back passengers are sitting pretty
09:49much on top of the engine. Yeah. It's like where the engine sits in the rig. And because everything's
09:54very upright and truck shaped, if you're going to put an engine in the middle, like Tacomas would
09:58be loud and obnoxious if they were mid-engined, right? There's just very little, like you run out
10:03of real estate pretty quickly. So yeah, I imagine... That's a good point. I imagine it'll be
10:11worse than the XD 1500 because I would imagine noise is less of a concern, but also I would be
10:20shocked if it's as kickoff-ness as the Exped is. That's not to throw any shade. Well, no,
10:26it is to throw shade at the Exped, but it's still a good rig. We still love you, but...
10:30Yes, but also tone it down a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put some dynamat in there.
10:35Yeah, no, that's entirely valid. And look, man, I know there are people out there rolling their
10:40eyes saying, why do you need an enclosed Razor? Look, I can't stress enough how much
10:48less worn out you are at the end of the day riding in an enclosed rig. You're just... The
10:53wind's not beating you to death. You're not sweating or shivering or all the rest of that.
10:59That may make me soft. Look, I'm happy to adopt that mantle, but man, is it nice. It's super nice.
11:06You know, I think it's... You're absolutely right. And I think one of the things that you have to...
11:10If you're asking, why do you need an enclosed side-by-side, an enclosed sport side-by-side,
11:15it's not too far down the road from the question, why do you need a side-by-side at all,
11:18right? The answer is, for a sport rig especially, you don't. So if you're considering a sport rig,
11:24you've already jumped the shark over, like, do I need one of these and gone to... I want one
11:29badly enough to spend the money. And at that point, it's like, well, it might as well be as
11:33comfortable as you can make it. Yeah. And it's worth pointing out that for the vast majority
11:37of the country, a closed cab makes a lot of sense. If you're just riding in the Southwest,
11:43yeah, I get it. Oh, you dust off some sand at the end of the day and you're fine, right?
11:47But out here, I mean, right now, it's 70 degrees outside, so, like, perfect riding weather, but it
11:53is pouring rain, which means that you and your rig, whatever clothes you're wearing, you're going
11:58to burn at the end of the day. Yeah. It's full stop. Set them on fire. So, you know, you either
12:05accept that reality or you're in a place where, oh, my rig is sealed and I can get out there and
12:09have a good time and I've got windshield wipers and I can see and all the rest of that stuff. So,
12:13yeah, to me, it really makes sense for a 48-state rig. It makes sense for, really, a four-season rig
12:21in a lot of places. Yeah. I mean, we'll get to this later, but believe me, in the Southwest,
12:26after about mid-October, it can get really cold outside. Did you find out about that? Yeah. Like
12:32I said, more on that later, but yeah, a windshield and doors at the very least, and certainly HVAC
12:40is going to make it, you know, you can go riding on Christmas in Utah, you know. What sounds more
12:45fun than that? Yeah, let's go get a Christmas tree, throw it on top of the Razor, you know.
12:49Well, that sounds awesome. I mean, I'm excited to see Polaris doing things that aren't just
12:54special editions. You know, we've seen a couple of new special edition Razors roll out. There was
12:59the ProArt Race replica, which was super cool, and they worked with, what was it,
13:08ProArmor, I think they worked with for the armored edition, which, you know, stickers and colors,
13:13that's all fun, but it's the same sort of thing that we see once a model starts getting long
13:17in the tooth. They throw out these new special editions to keep people interested, and it's
13:22good to see them working on something that's a little bit beyond that stuff. Yeah, and the facelift
13:26was nice, you know, but again, it was kind of like, all right, it's a mid-cycle refresh, so yeah, I think
13:33you do need substantive changes, and reality is the market is moving quickly. You know, we jumped
13:39from nothing over 150 horsepower to 180 horsepower to 225 to 240 in the space of, what, four years,
13:47less than four years, so we've taken this huge quantum leap in, like, what a side-by-side can do,
13:56and, you know, I wonder if that's got something to do with everybody's profits turning down a
14:01little bit. It's like, you know, suddenly you've got a rig that, in car terms, is brand new, but is
14:07four years old, and, you know, suddenly it starts to look outdated pretty quickly, so, you know, it's
14:12just hard to keep up. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we've seen that happen with the automotive
14:17space, left, right, and center, right? You know, there aren't a whole lot of products in the world
14:24where every two years it gets a ground-up refresh, but that's kind of what we see in the car space.
14:30If a platform is five years old, it's ancient, right? And side-by-sides, like it or not, are
14:36slowly moving in that direction where constant change and improvement is the sort of note of
14:41the day, and, you know, I think Polaris realizes that, you know, once you get out of, you know,
14:48happy fun time play money, which is like the $10,000 to $15,000 range, people want something
14:54that's not the same thing from last year with different stickers on it. It becomes a value
14:57proposition. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, so. Anyway, speaking of interesting news, how cool
15:05is this? Dude, Sarah Price got a factory Can-Am ride to Dakar. I am so excited. Reference, you
15:15know, shameless plug, we made a video about this last year. I went to Saudi Arabia, I hung out with
15:19Sarah Price in the bivouac while she was getting ready for the 2024 race, and, like, I can't tell
15:27you how impressive she was then. She came to, sorry, I almost said Dakar. She came to Saudi
15:33Arabia for the Dakar rally on her own dime. She paid South Racing for a customer ride, which is,
15:42there are houses that are not as expensive as that is, right? Yeah, I think, like,
15:45both of our first houses were combined for less than $1,000. Right, and she paid out of pocket.
15:52I mean, she had some sponsorship, but, like, pretty much she just pulled the money out of
15:55her wallet and said, I'm going to go. And then she was not a Can-Am factory driver. She won a
16:01stage. She became the first American woman to win a stage at Dakar. And, you know, this was-
16:06This is after having, like, all sorts of, like, teething troubles getting the car ready, like-
16:10Yeah, yeah. She had to do a second shakedown day. I watched them take her car all the way apart,
16:16chasing, like, some sensor wiring gremlin. You know, her shocks were being rebuilt in the pits,
16:21like, the night before the prologue stage. Like, I mean, like, it was sketchy. And she
16:26missed the podium by, like, this much because of Sarah, I'm sorry, a rookie error in navigating,
16:35you know. But it was just this incredibly impressive effort. And until, like, the second
16:41to last stage, it looked like, damn, she might win it, let alone get on the podium. And so then she
16:46came back, and it just got quiet for a while. Yeah. And we're kind of going- You're gonna do
16:52the thing? Right. And so finally, last week, the Mav-R comes out. South Racing gets a hold of a
16:58Mav-R to build their Dakar rigs for this year. And last week, or earlier this week, we got the
17:04news that Sarah is going. She's going to be a Can-Am factory driver. And she's partnering with
17:09Sean Berryman as her co-driver. So she's changing co-drivers. But it's worth noting that Berryman
17:14was co-driver for Casey Curry when Curry won in 2020. So this guy's been around the block a couple
17:20times. He's got a ton of experience. Yeah. Yeah. So she's going to be in what used to be T4. I
17:26guess it's called SSV now. So it's a stock wheelbase, stock width, pretty much a stock
17:31machine with a few tweaks here and there. It's got an FIA chassis that South Racing builds. But
17:37yeah, full factory effort. So she's got all that behind her. So I can't wait. It's going to be
17:42really impressive to see what she does. And you don't want to put the jinx on anybody,
17:48but I think it's going to be a pretty good year. Yeah, it's going to be a good show. I can tell
17:52you that much. I mean, look, whether or not you like racing or like watching racing,
17:57Dakar is something else. It's something else entirely. These machines are just going
18:02absolutely balls to the wall across the desert that you couldn't walk. And you literally never
18:09know what can happen because it's how long is the race? It's a full week of racing. Yeah. And
18:14it's like, no, it's 14 days. Oh, yeah. It's two weeks. It's 12 weeks of racing. 12 stages over 14
18:19days. And like how many Bajas is that back to back? 12. Oh, 12 Bajas. Yeah. Yeah. No, each
18:27stage is something like the average is a little below 1000 kilometers. For those of you who only
18:33speak American, 1000 kilometers is 620 miles. So we're talking about a long damn way is I think
18:41how it's technically phrased. And I mean, yeah, you're not. So they go through a part of Saudi
18:47Arabia called the Empty Quarter, which is called the Empty Quarter because you know the part in
18:51there, you know the part in Aladdin with the sand monster? It's that. It's just dunes. And there's
18:57no waypoints. There's no landmarks. There's no nothing. So you're navigating your way across
19:03just dune after dune after dune, like Star Wars, Dune C. And so but you're at full chat the whole
19:10time. And then wide open, you know, Saudi Arabia's got like Southwest style, just like rocks and
19:16looks like King of the Hammers. And you got to you know, so it's just and so it's just abuse on
19:23the machines. And then the start of the stage is generally a few hundred kilometers from where
19:29you're camped at night. So you're getting up at like three o'clock in the morning, driving
19:34for like down the highway, just until you get to the stage, then going foot to the floor
19:42and then driving back. And it's worth noting that in order to keep basically keep the side
19:47by sides from running directly next to those monstrous Dakar trucks, they're limited in
19:52horsepower. So the Mavar is not going to have 240 horsepower. It has like one hundred and sixty,
19:56one hundred and seventy, something like that. And they're limited to like T4s, I think, are limited
20:01to just under 80 miles an hour. Oh, man. So on those highway sections, you're like dog tired,
20:08welded to the floor, trying not to imagine having to run a 600 mile race. But first you have to
20:14get up in Knoxville and drive to Nashville. Yeah. Do the race and then drive back. Yeah. And then
20:20do that for 13 more days. No, I couldn't do it. I mean, I could. There are stories about
20:28Canyon Factory racer Rokas Pachuska, who on his first Dakar, they were driving on a transfer stage
20:36and he parked and got out and his co-driver's like, what are you doing? And he's like,
20:40you drive. And he he put his co-driver in the driver's seat for the for the transfer stage
20:46and just fell asleep. He's like, I'm not doing this anymore. Like, it's your turn. It's Saturday
20:52walk. Yeah, right. I don't know what to tell you. But like I said, so two pieces of follow up to
21:00this one, we interviewed Sarah Price before, during and after the Dakar. Well, during before
21:06and during her time in the Bivouac, before the race and after the race. Last year, we made a
21:10YouTube video about it. We investigated the deadliest side by side race in the Middle East.
21:14It's on our YouTube channel. You have to go watch that. If that doesn't make you pull for Sarah
21:18Price, nothing will. And the other thing is, I got to drive the Can-Am X3 version that she drove
21:26last year at Dakar. And I got to say, horsepower limited or not, this ain't your granddad's side
21:33by side. Like these things are cool. Anyway, that is on our YouTube channel. It's one of the craziest
21:41things I've ever done. Please go check that out too. It'll give you a sense and appreciation of
21:45what Dakar is and why it's so cool that she's doing this. Yeah, I wish more people in the states
21:55watch Dakar more thoroughly. Well, we'll be pulling for Sarah. She's awesome. We've had a
22:02couple of chances to chat with her and, you know, just an absolute force of nature behind the wheel.
22:07So I'm stoked to see her compete. When's the race? It starts January the 7th and runs to the 17th.
22:14Okay, so close. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you get there on like New Year's Day and then it's just
22:20hammer and tongs the whole time. Okay, well, you know, you have some experience running around in
22:25the desert. You were just out in Utah, right? Same thing. Yeah, no, yeah, exactly. No, I definitely
22:29just did the... I did a little Dakar prologue myself. No, so Kawasaki has put a new special
22:37edition out of their KRX 1000 this year. It's called the Blackout Edition and it's called that
22:44because it's literally blacked out. Blacked out. Yeah, the color, there are like three or four
22:49splashes of color on the whole thing. There are gold KRX logos embroidered into the seat backs.
22:55There are the red buttons on your seat belt. There's the orange warning sticker on the dash.
23:01And then like, there are these cool graphics down the side, which are like iridescent.
23:05You don't see them until light hits them, but then they kind of do the chameleon paint thing.
23:10So they look like ghost flame graphic, not flames, but like ghost KRX graphics during the daytime.
23:15But then if you run headlights over them, they like... Oh, that's cool. Yeah. And so that wasn't
23:20the only thing they did. It's got an 80 amp alternator, so you can run and... All the lights
23:27in the world. Yeah. Yeah. It's got an 80 amp alternator. It's got a roof with like this cool
23:31like moonroof panel. It's not removable, but it's like translucent. So you can look at the stars
23:37while you're ripping, which I don't recommend, but you can if you want to. And then it's got
23:43a VX45 Warned winch on the front. It's got Kawasaki's accessory off-road bumpers, front and
23:50rear, Fox QS3s, and then light bars all over. It's got like a 12 inch light bar right on the front
23:57bumper. It's got a 36 inch light bar on the roof, which is like, Lord, 60 billion lumens or something.
24:03I don't even know what it is. And then two like trail lights on the back so that you can
24:10cut them on so you don't have to just look for the glow of like two tail lights. And the coolest
24:15thing is, if you're ripping in the desert behind somebody and you've got your brightest lights on,
24:22and it's dusty, you're going to white out, right? So your option is not see anything because your
24:26lights are off or not see anything because you're whited out. Cowie thought of that,
24:30and you can actually turn all of the LEDs from bright white to green. And so if it gets dusty,
24:39like you cut the green lights on, and that shortens your field of vision considerably,
24:43but you can still see the trail. And it just knocks down all the glare of the dust.
24:48Luckily, when we were there, yeah. So because of the blackout...
24:52Where'd you guys go? You were in Utah somewhere?
24:53Yeah. So we were in Utah in Coral Pink Sand Dunes.
24:57Yeah. It was this cool 40 mile loop. The trailhead parking area is called Elephant Cove. So it's
25:04between Kanab and Mount Carmel Junction. You park at Elephant Cove and there are two trails
25:10like right next to each other, just coming out of the parking lot. And if you take the left-hand
25:13one, it takes you through Coral Pink and you go... It's like a 40 mile loop. And then you end right
25:18where you started, basically. So we started at like 4.45 PM. So it got dark while we were riding,
25:25which was super cool. So we got to see the sun go down over these incredible Utah hills,
25:30just the multicolored rocks and everything's red and pink. And the trails out there are incredible.
25:36It's basically a two-track, but it's like a slalom course or a downhill mountain bike course. It's
25:43really smooth except for a couple of spots. So we were ripping. So yeah. I mean, some of the
25:49coolest riding I've done, the KRX. The best thing about it is how it's just an easy, accessible rig
25:57to drive. It handles really well. It's super comfortable. It's very bare bones, but it's also
26:03pretty inexpensive. I mean, you're looking at mid twenties for the nicest one you can get with four
26:07seats. Which is insane, right? Like you were talking about how machines are evolving. The
26:13KRX is not a young machine at this point, right? It's about four or five years old at this point,
26:18and hasn't changed substantially. You got a four-seat unit. You got the electronic suspension
26:26stuff. But really, you're still looking at about 110-ish horsepower, which by today's standards,
26:34that's mid-pack stuff for Can-Am and Polaris. The rig's still awesome. It's still one of my
26:40absolute favorite machines. It rides great. And in most cases, you don't really want for
26:47more power. I mean, we all want for more power, but it does the job. It absolutely does the job.
26:54Good room inside. They're tough as absolute nails. Yeah, I love them.
27:00My takeaway was the chassis is magnificent, and that's everything from the actual shocks to just
27:05the way it is designed. I hadn't spent a lot of time in a two-seat KRX before this drive,
27:12and I was just super flickable and stable at the same time. And the four-door is great because
27:20it's just so stable. I mean, you can do dumb stuff with it, and it pretty much has you.
27:26I remember when the KRX came out, and everybody was like, this thing is huge.
27:30Polaris and Can-Am were like, oh yeah, hold our beer. We'll show you big rig, boys.
27:37This thing's as long as a Maverick R2 door with four doors. But yeah, the takeaway was
27:44the trails we were on were super fun, but they're also very tight. For being like Flowy's
27:51two-track, they're tight Flowy. And so if I had been in a Maverick R, you'd have been
27:57not using anywhere close to half of it. Whereas in the KRX, it's like, just weld the pedal down
28:04and have a good time. A little two-foot braking, and it goes just great.
28:09Did you get a chance to play with the engine braking on that machine?
28:13Not really. There was one sand hill where I cut it on, and it kept me planted going down.
28:21That's one of the most impressive things on that machine. Obviously,
28:25engine braking is not as exciting as horsepower or fancy shocks or whatever. But the last time
28:31we had a four-door KRX out here, we took it down 116, and we took it down the back reverse,
28:36which the entry is insanely steep. And I threw the engine braking on, and I didn't have to use
28:43the actual brake pedal. I've just crawled along. I don't know. The thing's a deeply impressive
28:50machine, and it does the thing that Kawasaki almost always does, which is the details are
28:55engineered to the hilt, which is what's appealing about it.
29:00Keep in mind, this is the company that makes the Mule, and they imbue everything they make with
29:04the same ethos as the Mule, which is it's not necessarily the fanciest one you can get.
29:09It has everything you want, and they're dead reliable. I think my takeaway for the actual
29:15machine part of the review was if you think you want a KRX, you should buy one. Do you know what
29:20I mean? If you're like, hmm, Honda Talon, Kawasaki KRX, all day, every day of the week. And again,
29:31this one has the big alternator. It comes with the light bars, but that big alternator gives you
29:36space to put extra stuff on it. Oh, it came with a hyphonic stereo. So you've already got the stereo
29:42mounted, so you can put more speakers or an audio roof or whatever you want on it. Just a very
29:50dialed machine. Again, Kawasaki hasn't changed a thing in a long time, but this is proof that
29:55they don't need to and what they're doing with it is working. So yeah, very impressed.
30:03Well, heck yeah. I'm jealous. It sounded like a good time.
30:06Yeah, it was awesome.
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