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00:00As a tenant dairy farmer myself and chair of FUW Carmarthenshire, perhaps I realise
00:09and understand this more than anybody else in this Chamber. The Government is trying
00:14to portray farming as an industry of super wealthy landowners and that's simply not
00:20the case in Wales, let me tell you. Welsh upland farmers in mountainous and hilly areas
00:26have an average annual income of £18,600. Yes, you heard correctly, £18,600, which
00:35is far below the national living wage for hours which are way beyond your average 40-hour
00:43week. What assessment has the Minister made for the impact of the changes to the APR in
00:49Wales, where wages for farmers are so low?
00:53I'm grateful to the Honourable Lady, and she's absolutely right. Farming is very
00:56tough right across the country and it's very difficult in Wales. It is a devolved issue
01:01so I won't comment on the specific schemes in Wales, but I would point her back to the
01:06Treasury figures which show the number of people who made claims for agricultural property
01:10relief and it is relatively few, and I would say it's probably relatively few in Wales.

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