Peter Dinklage is an Emmy and Golden Globe Award–winning actor you know from iconic roles in Game of Thrones, The Station Agent, Cyrano, X-Men, and many more. His latest film, Brothers, is an action-comedy releasing in limited theaters October 10th before debuting on Amazon Prime Video October 17th
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00:00I just torched in this place.
00:03Can you smell my breath from there?
00:13Hey what's going on everybody?
00:14For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.
00:17It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
00:19And today we're joined by Peter Dinklage.
00:21He's an Emmy and Golden Globe award winning actor you know from iconic roles in Game of
00:24Thrones, The Station Agent, Cyrano, X-Men, and I Could Go On and On.
00:28He also stars alongside Josh Brolin, Brendan Fraser, and Glenn Close in his latest film
00:31Brothers, an action comedy releasing in limited theaters October 10th before debuting on Amazon
00:36Prime Video October 17th.
00:38Peter Dinklage, welcome to the show.
00:40Thank you for having me.
00:41What's your mindset like going into this?
00:43Are you at all on edge staring down these hot wings in front of you?
00:46Well because your studio is in Midtown, I immediately am on edge before I get here.
00:51This is just a continuation on that on edge theme that New York City gives us.
00:57Those of us who live in Brooklyn, the quieter part of New York.
01:00Well I appreciate you making the trip across the river to take on the Wings of Death.
01:05Oh boy, long journey to die here in Midtown with these elixirs of yours.
01:28Okay, let the hand off.
01:35Mmm, I'm hungry.
01:39That's awesome.
01:45That's really good.
01:47Ooh, going back in?
01:48I didn't have lunch.
01:49I'll join you.
01:50Mm-hmm.
01:51Oh, it's really tasty.
01:54And that's the only time that that's going to happen.
01:57I kind of think.
01:59From an acting perspective, what are the mechanics of portraying a character who's under the influence?
02:04You know, the drunken karaoke scene, the backyard barbecue standouts for me as a viewer.
02:09Yeah, I seem to play a lot of people who are under the influence.
02:13Well, I'm not the first person to say this, but you act as sober as you can.
02:19Because drunk people don't know they're really drunk.
02:21They're like, my point is really crystal clear.
02:25So you've got to follow that direct line when you're walking like, you know, DUI.
02:30You want to walk on that straight line.
02:32You can't, but you want to really be determined to be able to in your mind.
02:36One of my favorite performances of all time under the influence is Richard E. Grant in Withnal and I.
02:42Highly recommend that film.
02:44One of my huge influences growing up.
02:46And that actor, legend has it, never had a drop in his life.
02:51And played probably the strongest drunken performance I've ever seen on film.
02:56So, you know, I don't know what it is, but it's a little glint behind the eye.
03:01A little mischievousness.
03:07Ghost Pepper, that's an unfortunate name.
03:10Oh, but the pear is like the happy side of it.
03:14I feel like I just ate twins.
03:16Like one is like me and Josh in the movie.
03:20The bad influence I can feel is going on there, but the pear is like everything's fine.
03:24Yeah, yeah.
03:25I'm a pear.
03:26Autumnal.
03:27You know what I mean?
03:28Like there's like a little cinnamon on that.
03:30I want to go jump in a pile of leaves.
03:34I'll join you.
03:36I'm along for the ride.
03:37I'll join you.
03:38I'm along for the party.
03:40That's really good.
03:41I like that.
03:42Do you have any is this really happening moments reflecting on all the years you've done doing live theater?
03:48You're not imagined with the sheer number of hours that you've spent on stage that you've had to work through a production mishap or two.
03:54I was in a Shakespearean production.
03:57And I played the chorus, which tells the story to fill in the blanks of the characters.
04:03It was sort of a device that Shakespeare used to fill in the blanks of the storytelling, sort of like the cliff notes.
04:11But the idea of this director was to bolt me to a chair on the side of the wall of the theater over the audience.
04:20And it was a small space.
04:22And one show I was quite sick, but the show must go on.
04:26And I was saying my lines and throwing up into a basket that they had up there.
04:30And the audience was below me.
04:32It was like, is that going to land on me?
04:34But it was downtown, so it was super cool.
04:36They probably thought it was part of the show.
04:38Yeah, it's experimental theater, you know.
04:40So that's awful.
04:41Usually you throw up before you go on stage.
04:43But I was actually throwing up almost on the audience.
04:46So that sounds like a really sad story.
04:50I meant it to be funny.
04:52Because, you know, comedy is tragedy plus time.
04:56So it was a long time ago.
04:59Until this.
05:00So look out.
05:06That's really good.
05:08I really should have eaten before I got here.
05:10I'm really hungry.
05:11No, I'm happy you didn't.
05:12You know, I like it.
05:14An enthusiasm for the free lunch that we offer.
05:17So you once said that a lot of directors straight out of film school.
05:20I once said a lot of things, Sean.
05:22With the martini and me.
05:24Let's see if this one holds up.
05:26A lot of directors straight out of film school are very technically minded.
05:29But they don't have an understanding of actors or how to talk to them.
05:33What in your experience defines a great actor's director?
05:37You shouldn't have to talk to an actor very much.
05:41If you've hired them.
05:43You saw something in them that you want for the part.
05:46I mean, that can lead to chaos.
05:51And you need to make sure everybody knows your vision is very clear.
05:58Because they'll take over.
06:00We'll spot a weakness in a director.
06:02And go, okay, I got this.
06:04Because I want to direct.
06:05All actors want to direct.
06:06And subconsciously they will sort of take charge of the ship.
06:10And there has to be one captain to keep that vision clear.
06:13I was really fortunate enough to work with the great Sidney Lumet.
06:16On his second to last film.
06:18And he's so prepared.
06:19And everybody loves him so much.
06:21But he would do one take.
06:23And he would ask you if you wanted another one.
06:26And when it's somebody like him.
06:28You trust him more than you trust your own instincts.
06:32That he sees the film much more clearly than you do.
06:35The overall picture of it.
06:37All the way to the end.
06:38Past editing and all that stuff.
06:40So that's what's most important to me about a director.
06:42What is the most important thing about being a director?
06:47Oh, this is your company.
06:57I like that.
06:58It's got like a.
07:01Feels like we're on the seaside or something.
07:03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:04Am I wrong?
07:05Like a little Old Bay seasoning in there?
07:08Yeah, yeah.
07:09And we're calling it like kind of a sauce of summer.
07:11You know, the vision.
07:12Our vision, you know.
07:13Very backyard grill.
07:15The veggies.
07:16That's kind of what we're going for with this one.
07:18It's really bringing me back to a summertime grill.
07:23Maybe a seagull.
07:25I can hear a seagull in the distance.
07:27Maybe the hallucinations have kicked in.
07:29The waves crashing against the shore.
07:31I'm right in the scene with you, Peter.
07:33I'm right here with you.
07:34Beautiful.
07:35So I'm interested in the fundamental part of being an actor.
07:38Which is, you know, deciding which projects you're interested in.
07:40Based on the pitch.
07:41Based on what's on the page.
07:43I'm curious, what are the most important levers for you?
07:46Like genre, cast, director, script.
07:50Like are there certain things that make you most excited to take on a part?
07:54Yeah, definitely.
07:55Dialogue.
07:57You can have the greatest idea for a film.
08:00One that in a pitch can blow you away.
08:03But as an actor, what am I saying?
08:06You know, what's our dialogue?
08:07What's the ease or tension in the wordplay that you are putting on the page?
08:13I always like to rattle the cage of genres.
08:16Because, you know, people in comedies don't know they're being funny.
08:20So I like my comedies really straight.
08:22You know, Alan Arkin was one of my favorites.
08:25He was so funny because he just played it.
08:28As like somebody who doesn't think anything's funny.
08:31But therefore, it's really funny.
08:34So anything that sort of points the finger at this is funny writing-wise.
08:39Like a punchline in a movie doesn't really work.
08:41Because it doesn't really work in life.
08:43So that's dialogue is my number one.
08:50Apple carol. Oh, another fruit.
08:53We're still…
08:55And a very autumnal theme.
08:57Yeah, yeah, it is kind of.
08:58And look at the colors, they're very autumnal.
09:00Yeah.
09:01Yeah, and look at this vest, which is very autumnal.
09:04No, that's really good.
09:06And a little bit of a step up, but…
09:08Oh, yeah.
09:09You're on top of it.
09:10Oh, it's fine.
09:11There we go.
09:12It's JV step up.
09:13What do you guys got over here?
09:15Coming for you.
09:16I love this part.
09:17Yeah, I know, the confidence.
09:19There's something in this that gives you confidence.
09:21That false hope.
09:23Fact or fiction, you still have a scar from a time that you were
09:27kneed in the head while performing with your punk funk rap group Wizzy
09:32at a show at CBGB's in the early 90s. Is that true?
09:35Yeah, that's true.
09:37I mean, just try to define me, man, back in the day.
09:42I was like, I don't want to be an actor.
09:44I'm not going to do any, you know, silly commercials or any of that.
09:48I'm going to do plays downtown for no money,
09:50in which I'm going to throw up on the audience.
09:52And I'm going to be in a punk band.
09:54We were Beastie Boys ripoffs.
09:56And, yeah, we had fun.
09:57It was a lot of fun.
09:58And it was a couple of years doing it.
10:00I got a cool scar on my temple.
10:04Head wounds bleed a lot.
10:06Yeah.
10:07So I throw up on the audience and I bleed on the audience.
10:09It's a very visceral experience if you want to see me live.
10:11That's old school New York right there.
10:13Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:14I miss that New York.
10:15But it was at CBGB's, which is now John Vervaeus.
10:17Great clothing store.
10:19But somewhere in those really nice jackets,
10:22maybe some of my blood on the floor still.
10:24But the reason that CBGB's was so great
10:26is because they had the best sound system in New York.
10:28That's the reason why that place is legendary.
10:30There's no better sound system.
10:32And they were tested time and again by these punk bands.
10:35And nobody ever blew a speaker there.
10:37Because I don't know what was in those speakers.
10:39Stress tested and endured.
10:41It was just like Iggy Pop gold in those speakers.
10:43It was incredible.
10:48We're in the back half now.
10:49Back half.
10:50I'm slurring my words from the spice.
10:57All right.
11:00I'm giving you a moment.
11:01I know you're coming for me.
11:02Yep.
11:04There you go.
11:05Yeah, scotch bonnet really announces itself.
11:08Yeah, yeah.
11:11They're starting to slip through the back door now, right?
11:13They're going to be like, we're fine and chill.
11:15Just eat us and then we will fuck you.
11:18Yeah.
11:20Rappelling down the building.
11:21Knocking on the windows.
11:23Breaching the door.
11:26My daughter gave me a little assortment of things she read that were good for you.
11:33Oh, that's sweet.
11:34Parmesan cheese, tomato juice, and peanut butter over here.
11:40Thank you to my daughter.
11:42I haven't touched them yet.
11:44Because I feel like I will need them with these guys.
11:48Is it true that Charles Dance, who plays Tywin Lannister in Game of Thrones,
11:52was so appalled by the way his character mistreated yours
11:56that he made a habit of personally apologizing to you in between takes?
12:00Yeah.
12:01I love Charlie Dance.
12:03He's one of my favorite human beings.
12:05And he played my father on the show.
12:07And all my character father did on the show was humiliate me and sentence me to death.
12:14Spoiler alert for those three people who haven't seen the show.
12:18So he made a habit of, because we would get really invested in those things,
12:22because talk about great dialogue.
12:24Dan Weiss and David Benioff gave us the greatest dialogue.
12:27So it really felt really lived in and fun and scary at times.
12:31So he would just, between every take, he would come over and just gently touch me on the shoulder.
12:38We wouldn't hug it out because we had no time,
12:40but he would always make a point to just give me a little.
12:43And it felt very paternal, too.
12:46But he played a horrible human being, but he's one of my favorite human beings.
12:51And it was a shame how that one ended on the toilet.
12:56Kind of like how this is going to end.
12:59But yeah, that's one of the more classic death scenes in a TV show, I think.
13:04All right.
13:05Now when do you start putting the special effects on the camera,
13:08with the hallucination, the heat, and all that?
13:11Well, you know, you kind of dictate that.
13:12Really?
13:13You know what I mean?
13:14We don't force it.
13:15We just do the tango with you.
13:17We just dance with you.
13:18Oh, nice.
13:19You know, Peter?
13:20Okay.
13:21All right.
13:22So far you've avoided.
13:23So far this is good dialogue.
13:24Yeah.
13:25Okay.
13:26All right.
13:30Father!
13:31Where am I?
13:36All right.
13:37I feel like somebody coded that one a bit more.
13:40But I don't care.
13:42Right?
13:43And this one's.
13:44There's a reason why Napalm is in the title.
13:46Right.
13:47Yeah.
13:48There's no false advertising there.
13:49No.
13:50Which I respect.
13:51You know, they're telling you what you're getting into over here.
13:53Yeah.
13:54It's very much.
13:56I can't speak.
13:58It's.
13:59How do they.
14:00What does the stroke feel like?
14:02It's hotter than this one.
14:03Yeah.
14:04Between this and this.
14:05It's a significant jump that we've taken.
14:07Yeah.
14:08Yeah.
14:10I might have to.
14:12I don't want to do any product placement here.
14:15That's all right.
14:16Any port in a storm.
14:18As we get through this here.
14:19That's good.
14:20Tomato juice.
14:21Tomato juice?
14:22She was right.
14:23That works?
14:24Yeah.
14:25Here we go.
14:26All right.
14:27I'm taking notes myself over here.
14:28That's fantastic.
14:29Yeah.
14:30That's a burn.
14:31Yeah.
14:32That's fantastic.
14:33Yeah.
14:34Yeah.
14:35Yeah.
14:36We're settling in.
14:37Yeah.
14:38That was like snacks.
14:39That was a.
14:41That was dragons.
14:42Yeah.
14:43Yeah.
14:44We're getting real over here.
14:45I just made out with a dragon.
14:46And I'm about to make out with.
14:48Yeah.
14:49Yeah.
14:50You have a question?
14:51Yeah.
14:52Sure.
14:53I do.
14:54I do.
14:55Is there a quality or practice that you see on a cash strap movie set that you wish were
14:59more common on the summer blockbuster backlots or vice versa?
15:04Sometimes it seems like there's too many people on a movie set.
15:07Right?
15:08What?
15:09No offense.
15:10Like, wow.
15:11We have to pay all these people.
15:12No wonder it's so expensive.
15:13And at the end, they kind of let now marketing dictate things maybe too much.
15:19It's like, I don't know if we want your movie because we don't know how to market it.
15:23And I go, well, isn't that a cool thing that you don't know how to market this because
15:27you've never gotten anything like this before?
15:29And isn't that challenging?
15:32But my favorite thing about smaller movies is the speed, at least for an actor.
15:37I know it's difficult for the crew.
15:39And it's a privileged perspective to have.
15:41But the speed in which you have to work.
15:43My lips are kind of on fire.
15:45I just felt like I needed to share that with you.
15:47Oh, I don't have a mouth.
15:49I have no, there's nothing from here below.
15:52This is right here.
15:54Yeah.
15:55No, it's fun.
15:56It's fun.
15:57It's not getting worse.
15:59No, I mean with this Napalm guy.
16:01It's like he's still there, hanging out like I swallowed a down comforter.
16:07Yeah.
16:08Filled with hot charcoal.
16:11But it's just hanging out there.
16:13But it's plateaued.
16:14Yeah, it's just warm in my mouth.
16:16The problem with this show.
16:17The problem is the next one.
16:18Exactly.
16:19You're going to beat me to it.
16:20You're going to fight fire with a fire.
16:23The bomb, which everybody knows, is the.
16:27Yeah.
16:28You know.
16:29Yeah, because I love your show.
16:31Oh, thank you, Peter.
16:33Come on, it's vegetables.
16:34It's fine.
16:35It's fine.
16:36That's what you got to tell yourself.
16:37It's not.
16:38Plastic.
16:46I should have taken a smaller bite.
16:48Yeah.
16:49Hindsight.
16:51I don't like you anymore.
16:52I knew that was coming.
16:54I was a fan.
16:55Yeah.
16:56No, I get it.
16:57Yeah.
16:58That's really.
16:59It's.
17:00Yeah, ma'am.
17:01That's awesome.
17:02Violent.
17:03No, it's awesome.
17:04You dig it.
17:05It's great because I'm feeling something.
17:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:07I like to feel something.
17:08Actor, immerse yourself in the experience.
17:09Nobody's dead inside.
17:10All you people, you're dead inside.
17:16No, man.
17:18I hate roller coasters, but.
17:20You like a thrill.
17:21I like a thrill.
17:23Do people not on your show buy this and, honey, do you want more Da Bomb?
17:30Guests are coming over.
17:31What are those motherfuckers?
17:33What's wrong with those people?
17:34You know, for better or worse, I think the way that we've put this sauce on a pedestal,
17:40on a platform, I think, is kind of, you know, yeah, you and me both.
17:45You and me both.
17:46Yeah.
17:47But we've still got it.
17:49And, you know, I don't know if this is breaking news to you, Peter, but you are quickly approaching.
17:53Oh, man, that's awesome.
17:54I know.
17:55100 acting credits over the course of your career.
17:59So with that in mind, what I want to do.
18:01That's why it's hard sometimes to work with directors because they've done like two movies and actors have done 100.
18:06Let them know.
18:07You know.
18:08Let them know.
18:09I've done it what it is.
18:10And you know that.
18:11I know that.
18:12And then let's go make a movie.
18:13But now that I've made like a lot more.
18:15So what I want to do is play a time-honored Hot Ones game called Name That Tagline.
18:22Can you smell my breath from there?
18:23I caught it.
18:24And it's lovely.
18:25I'm on the same wavelength.
18:26A game called Name That Tagline where I give you a tagline to a Peter Dinklage movie.
18:31What are you saying?
18:32You're speaking Russian right now.
18:35I can't understand a word you're saying.
18:37Connect it to the title.
18:38You battle the hot sauce.
18:40Okay.
18:41Tis about to get medieval up in here.
18:44Tis about to get medieval up in here.
18:48Oh, my God.
18:49Knights of Bad Astem.
18:50Knights of Bad Astem.
18:52Which Academy Award winning Knights of Bad Astem.
18:57Ever had one of those nights?
19:00One of those nights.
19:03Tiptoes.
19:05Thirteen Moons.
19:06Wow, you're going to Alex Rockwell.
19:08My friend, Alex Rockwell.
19:09Great director.
19:10You're invited to return to the games.
19:14The Games of Throne.
19:15No, that would be funny.
19:20Oh, The Hunger Games.
19:21There you go.
19:22There you go.
19:24I don't watch anything I do.
19:26I go hibernate when they come out.
19:29How about this one?
19:30Loneliness is much better when you have someone to share it with.
19:35Station Agent.
19:36That's the Station Agent.
19:37There you go.
19:38How about this?
19:39Family is a life sentence.
19:41Brothers.
19:42Total pro.
19:43Come on.
19:44One more for you.
19:45He only needs three things to get through the day.
19:47An espresso, an aspirin, and a miracle.
19:54The Peter Dinklage story.
19:59Give me a decade.
20:00Nineties.
20:01Ah, fuck.
20:03You're doing more obscure stuff, aren't you?
20:06Pete Smalls is dead.
20:07Close.
20:08Living in Oblivion.
20:09Oh, that was my first movie.
20:12Took it all the way back.
20:13Oh, wow.
20:16Thanks for bringing up movies that very few people have seen, but I still hold dear to my heart.
20:26It's great. I'm ready.
20:27Here we go.
20:28I'm ready.
20:33I didn't read Scorpion on the bottle for this one.
20:40And it does have some sting on it.
20:43But not like Scorpion.
20:44Right up the nose.
20:45Yeah.
20:46The bomb doesn't care about your nasal cavities.
20:48It goes straight through those.
20:49Speeding right through that, yeah.
20:50Scorpion wants to pinch your nose.
20:52To the dome.
20:53Yeah.
20:54Yeah.
20:55Straight to the brain.
20:56The first one could have gone this way.
20:58Between dusting pianos on Ludlow Street, removing-
21:01What's up, Stalker?
21:04Is there an odd job from before you were famous that you remember most fondly?
21:11I worked one summer at the county park, sanitation.
21:17You look at me, you think, I clean up my garbage.
21:20And they partner people up.
21:22And I was with this old timer.
21:23I'd been doing it for probably 50 years.
21:25I might be having PTSD right now from this memory.
21:29He'd pull the truck up to a really remote part of the park, way up this trail.
21:35I think we would go off-road.
21:37And he'd hide.
21:40Before the internet.
21:42And he would have his dirty magazines.
21:46And he would sit there in the car and I'd go-
21:52And I'd get out of the car.
21:54And I'd get out of the car and go take a nap in the weeds.
21:58While he sat there reading his Playboys and Penthouse and all that stuff.
22:03Guy was probably about 70.
22:04One year from retirement type of situation.
22:07And a young upstart who was ready to clean the garbage but-
22:10Oh, we're going to do this.
22:11You were looking for a mentor.
22:12So it was a really easy summer.
22:14I was looking for a mentor.
22:16I was looking for a hero, a teacher.
22:19I was looking for like a Walt Whitman of this park.
22:22The poetry of the park.
22:23No? You were going to read the Penthouse for him.
22:26But it was a really easy summer because I got to take naps.
22:31Do you shake it up?
22:32Oh, what are you doing?
22:34What are you doing? Now you're the guy in the truck at the park.
22:38I used to do that too.
22:44Challenge me, why don't you?
22:47So I'm putting this on there.
22:48Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:50Oh.
22:51Always tough when you get that.
22:52You're going to take care of me, right guys?
22:55You're all coming back to my house, right?
22:58Cool towels, compresses.
23:01All right, I just put too much on there.
23:02Yeah.
23:03You know what? I feel like a superhero now, bro.
23:06I do too.
23:07I'm even leaning my elbows on the table.
23:13I think it just shot up into my eye.
23:16Spoke it into existence.
23:17Spoke it into existence.
23:20Respect.
23:21Come on.
23:26Hey, don't eat before you come to Hot Ones because it's a really good meal.
23:31And the hot sauce is just part of it.
23:37Hunger is stronger than the hot sauce.
23:42Right. That determination, the hot sauce, it's just fun.
23:46And here's the good news.
23:48No more hot sauce is required, Peter Dinklage.
23:51You have made it to the end of the Hot Ones gauntlet.
23:55And to close things out, at the commencement speech that you gave at your alma mater, Bennington,
24:00you told the graduating class of 2012 that you hope that they find their rhythm before the age of 29.
24:07And as someone who struggled to find an agent who was living in squalor,
24:11I'm curious, when you reflect back, what crystallizes in your mind as like acting rock bottom?
24:19And then what do you think gave you the perseverance to make it through to the other side?
24:23No, I just, I was angry.
24:26I think too angry for a long time.
24:28It was like that Groucho Marx.
24:30Never want to, I don't know, it was like the opposite of the Groucho Marx.
24:33I never want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member.
24:36I just knew what the entertainment business was serving up people who are my size.
24:43And that, to me, wasn't acting.
24:46But I surrounded myself with really brilliant people.
24:50Not intentionally, but just friendships.
24:53I call it the tribe.
24:55And we just carried that friendship and working environment, sort of one and the same, into the future together.
25:03Because you can't do it alone.
25:05I couldn't do it alone.
25:07And that's the beauty of what I do for a living, is the collaboration.
25:11So I was just lucky to find really great people who inspired me.
25:16More so every day.
25:18Well, you know what?
25:20You've inspired me today, Peter Dinklage.
25:22Taking on the wings of death and living to tell the tale.
25:26And now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.
25:29This camera, this camera, this camera.
25:31Let the people know what you have going on in your life.
25:33Brothers, the movie I did with Josh Brolin and Glenn Close and Taylor Page and Brendan Fraser.
25:40Written by Macon Blair, directed by Max Barbanko.
25:43It's a throwback to the movies I grew up on.
25:46Like Midnight Run, 48 Hours.
25:49And I had so much fun making it.
25:51So I hope you enjoy watching it.
26:01Thanks, man.
26:03That's why your show is so brilliant.
26:05This just throws in the fucking monkey wrench like it usually is and it's great.
26:10And you're probably more honest than anything else that's not hot sauce induced.
26:18I'm not making any sense because of the hot sauce, but it was great, man.
26:23Thank you so much.
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