María Becerra and Thalia have a candid conversation about mental health and fame at Billboard’s Latin Music Week 2024.
María Becerra y Thalia hablan sobre salud mental y fama.
María Becerra y Thalia hablan sobre salud mental y fama.
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00:00We're all acting our characters, and everyone has their own movie,
00:04everyone has their own play, everyone opens and closes their curtain at some point.
00:10And when you leave the theater, you're going to have to take off your makeup.
00:14You're going to have to hang the character you were playing in the theater.
00:18And you're going to be there.
00:20Yes.
00:22So, you have to be the best version of yourself.
00:27That's also a big round of applause.
00:29Yes, it is.
00:40Welcome. We are very excited, right, my Mari?
00:44Exactly, yes, very excited to be here.
00:46We are excited to be here with you,
00:49in this spectacular week of our music,
00:53and talking about a topic that, to be honest, is for everyone.
00:58Yes, totally.
01:00Well, mental health, which has never been a minor issue,
01:04but luckily today we have panels, spaces like this,
01:08where you can talk, you can share experiences.
01:12And it's a word that has also become very famous, right?
01:15This, mental health, I mean,
01:17it's being talked about a lot lately,
01:19which I find incredible, to be able to address these issues.
01:22The truth is, yes, it's fantastic.
01:24I mean, the truth is, it's something new.
01:27It didn't happen to me.
01:29In my adolescence, where you need it the most,
01:31the adolescence that you are...
01:34Right? Exactly.
01:36As a teenager, this didn't exist.
01:38So, you had to kind of like,
01:40swallow it and move on, right?
01:43There was no other way.
01:44Yes, yes, totally.
01:45And well, just a while ago we were talking in the dressing room,
01:49sharing some experiences,
01:50and just like you said,
01:52there were a lot of things that didn't happen before.
01:55Like, for example, well, all this that happens today
01:57on social media, right?
01:59Which is also a very important part
02:02of what mental health is for everyone.
02:04This thing of being exposed 24-7,
02:09and feeling that need, that pressure
02:12of having to show what I do,
02:14but that besides showing what I do,
02:16it looks nice, it looks aesthetic.
02:18Aesthetic! That word!
02:20Literally!
02:21Like, you know that everyone is going to be commenting on that,
02:25so, well, it's a very important exposition that we have.
02:28But what you're saying is interesting,
02:30because you really had to grow up in the digital era.
02:35I mean, your career started, if I'm not mistaken,
02:38through social media, right?
02:40Tell me a little bit about that.
02:42Yes, the truth is that my career started
02:44when a video of mine went viral,
02:46when I was 15 years old.
02:47Do you remember the video? Which video was it?
02:49Yes, yes, yes!
02:50What was it?
02:51A monologue.
02:52Because I did a lot of comedy, you know,
02:54I did musical comedy, acting, singing,
02:57and it was a monologue.
02:58We do everything!
02:59We do everything!
03:00We're multifunctional.
03:03And it was a monologue about how I prepared myself
03:05to go out dancing, and this and that,
03:07and it went viral.
03:08Do you remember the monologue?
03:09A little bit of the monologue?
03:10And it was like, I said, like,
03:13I don't know, for example,
03:14like, why do only men have to shave?
03:18For example, to go out dancing,
03:20I shave my mustache.
03:21And I shaved my mustache, and I shaved,
03:23and I don't know, it was like...
03:25And it went viral.
03:26Of course, I was a girl,
03:27experimenting there with my acting things
03:29that I imagined, and it went viral.
03:31Like, the other day it had like a million views.
03:34And you never expected it?
03:35No, never!
03:36I mean, in fact, later I was ashamed
03:38because I said, no, now everyone is talking
03:40and commenting about this.
03:41And well, and that was like...
03:4315 years, you say?
03:44I was 15 years old, you know?
03:45And then I started uploading my videos singing,
03:47and I said, well, I have to take advantage of this moment.
03:49Of course!
03:50Let them know that I sing, you know?
03:51Of course!
03:52And I started uploading my videos singing.
03:54And there, little by little, little by little,
03:56until I started...
03:57I mean, you created your community.
03:59Totally.
04:00Being you.
04:01Totally, 100%.
04:02And then it started to change
04:05because of the demands of social media.
04:07Totally.
04:08And you stopped being you a little bit
04:10to please others, or to have more likes.
04:13And you see, it's that...
04:14How strong.
04:15It's very strong.
04:16You can't be 100% you, you know?
04:19Like, you can never...
04:20In social media?
04:21In social media.
04:22No, I do.
04:23I feel that...
04:24But that's when you go viral with the tiki-tiki-tiki-tiki-tiki.
04:26Of course!
04:27There, one is one, and you go viral.
04:30When you are one, when you are you,
04:32when you are honest, when you are in the moment,
04:34when you are sharing it, you connect with people.
04:37Yes.
04:38Yes, yes.
04:39I'm very afraid of that.
04:40When you do it to try to reach numbers,
04:42or because one person is doing well,
04:45or better than that person,
04:47and you do it similar to...
04:49You lose your essence, you lose your way.
04:52Yes, there you totally lose your essence.
04:54What I don't know, I decide sometimes...
04:57Sometimes I say, I'm doing this so personal.
05:00I say, I want to show it to the world.
05:02I don't know, for example, my relationship with my partner.
05:04It must happen to you too, with your family, or whatever.
05:08I say, how nice to share this.
05:10But I deprive myself of that, you know?
05:12I say, no, because I don't know if I want to open that door.
05:14You know?
05:15Because you opened it at some point,
05:17and a bunch of people came back.
05:19And it wasn't nice, you know?
05:21It wasn't nice, so...
05:23I don't feel like it's something that only happens to us.
05:25I feel like it happens to everyone.
05:27You upload a story with your boyfriend,
05:29and your aunt says, I don't like that guy for you.
05:31You should be with the neighbor.
05:33You know? I've always liked him.
05:35The mess.
05:36Of course, what are you getting into?
05:38What do you know about my relationship?
05:40If I'm happy, how is the other person?
05:43With that person, I can be my 100%.
05:47Exactly.
05:48No one knows that, no one sees that.
05:50But there's an impunity when it comes to
05:52commenting on the lives of others.
05:54It's very big.
05:55That's where all this comes in,
05:57what we were saying about the haters,
05:59all these waves of immense hatred.
06:02What do you do with that?
06:04I already sit like this in my podcast.
06:06I'm asking them.
06:08What do you do with that?
06:10When those waves come to you,
06:12of anger, of hate, of jealousy,
06:14maybe it's people who need to resolve traumas.
06:17We're all traumatized.
06:19We're all traumatized by traumatized by traumatized.
06:21Totally.
06:22If you start looking at your line,
06:24you have to cut with those heritages.
06:28Biblically, I'm a Christian,
06:31and I love the word.
06:33It's my strength.
06:35It's what pulls me forward
06:37in all this madness of this earth,
06:39of this world that we face day to day.
06:41And that's precisely what it says.
06:43It's that.
06:45Don't bring to the present
06:47things from the past.
06:49I already took it away from you.
06:51I already forgave you.
06:53Don't keep punishing yourself.
06:55Nobody has to point a finger at you.
06:59Live your life in peace,
07:01doing honorable things,
07:03doing things that make you grow
07:05as a spirit, as a soul,
07:07giving good vibes
07:10to other people
07:12who are going through your life,
07:14in your career, giving positive things.
07:16The thing is that I feel
07:18that that is already an evolution.
07:20And there are many people
07:22who are not on that path.
07:24There are many people who evolve.
07:26Because we are traumatized by traumatized.
07:28So you have to cut with that
07:30and say, well, it's a matter of healing.
07:32Totally.
07:34It's a matter of healing that child,
07:36that girl who at some point felt
07:38alone,
07:40or a shadow of the family,
07:42of the mom, of the dad.
07:44So it's like,
07:46I'm going for myself.
07:48I'm going to do things that edify me
07:50and make me feel
07:52a better person. How?
07:54Start with the basics.
07:56Eat well.
07:58Leave vices.
08:00Do your exercise.
08:02The boring, do that.
08:04Eat vegetables and drink water.
08:07And the boring things
08:09are the ones that bear fruit.
08:11Totally. Create a habit.
08:13Create a habit.
08:15It's boring, it's difficult to create a habit.
08:17The habit, I think, is success.
08:19Totally.
08:21You get up in a positive way,
08:23you look in the mirror, you love yourself.
08:25I love you!
08:27If you don't say it, who will?
08:29Totally.
08:31And it's difficult.
08:33It's a complicated topic,
08:35but we're here,
08:37we're a clear example of that.
08:39You can have talent
08:41and a lot of things,
08:43but it's the discipline that brings you here.
08:45It's the discipline.
08:47It's the hard work.
08:49It's getting up when you came three days ago,
08:51giving three shows in a row,
08:53sleeping five hours like that,
08:55and you miss your family,
08:57and you feel bad, and you come eating badly.
08:59But you're there giving your 100%.
09:01Exactly.
09:03Giving more is what makes the difference.
09:05What creates excellence.
09:07And that's what makes the difference.
09:09That extra.
09:11Totally, totally.
09:13And I'm very interested in asking you now.
09:15First of all,
09:17why are you so beautiful?
09:19You're very beautiful, very beautiful.
09:23You're beautiful.
09:25I think you have a very beautiful life.
09:27And I saw you,
09:29she's like that all the time, I mean.
09:32I mean, just behind the dressing room,
09:34you're a love with everyone.
09:36That's so beautiful.
09:38And that's a clear example of what we were talking about just now.
09:40This thing of treating the other well.
09:42I really like
09:44the way they think,
09:46the Rastafarians.
09:48I like it a lot.
09:50They don't say, you and me.
09:52They say, me and me.
09:54They see the other as they see themselves.
09:56And I think that's very beautiful.
09:58It's like a beautiful way of seeing life.
10:00And treating people the way you like them to treat you.
10:02I think that's also
10:04something essential.
10:06And going back to this topic
10:08of people on social media.
10:10We were just talking
10:12with my makeup artist.
10:14And she said, can you believe that the other day
10:16I was on the bus, in the bus stop.
10:18And there was a lady next to me
10:20with her cell phone
10:22in the open air.
10:24It was impossible not to read what she was putting on.
10:26Basically.
10:29Let her tell us.
10:31Right now.
10:33She was commenting
10:35on a politician's posts.
10:37And people were commenting
10:39on things they didn't agree with.
10:41The lady was responding
10:43with a face of vomit.
10:45Suddenly.
10:47You shut up, you're trash.
10:49It's like a tremendous hate.
10:51And of course, it's within reach.
10:53It's within reach
10:55to express your hate.
10:57To say things that are completely hurtful
10:59without any consequences.
11:01Also, under that anonymity
11:03or having a private Instagram.
11:05Of course.
11:07And it's very serious.
11:09And it's tremendous.
11:11That impunity.
11:13But that's it.
11:15People who didn't heal a lot of things.
11:17That lady didn't step on therapy in her life.
11:19Therapy is also a privilege.
11:21Also.
11:23Not everyone can have it.
11:25Not everyone has access to it.
11:27It should be done.
11:29It should be something for everyone.
11:31But I do feel
11:33that we have to
11:35send good vibes to all those people.
11:37Because all those people are in a process as well.
11:39At some point.
11:41Not so bad or not so good, I don't know.
11:43Everyone is in a process.
11:45So, just send.
11:47That at some point
11:49your life is illuminated.
11:51That at some point you see love.
11:53That at some point you find success.
11:55That at some point your spirit grows.
11:57Send that.
12:01I think I have to
12:03always educate my eye
12:05to read the beautiful things
12:07and the positive things of the comments.
12:09And that's where my eye goes.
12:11There are people who educate it
12:13for gossip.
12:15For the laundry.
12:17In Mexico
12:19it's the laundry.
12:21In Madrid
12:23they would go up to the roof
12:25and in the laundry with the soap.
12:27I had to use the soap.
12:29My mom would put me to see the sheets.
12:31And it's something from a long time ago.
12:33But then it was like,
12:35and you saw the one from 72.
12:37And you saw the one from I don't know what.
12:39And in the church this one did that.
12:41And then it's like something
12:43of a society, isn't it?
12:45It's always been like that.
12:47But behind a profile
12:49it amplifies.
12:51It amplifies.
12:53Totally.
12:55You've lived it so strongly
12:57that you closed your eyes.
12:59Tell me that.
13:01Tell us.
13:03That's great.
13:05They would close their networks.
13:07Right?
13:09Yes.
13:11I've put security to all my networks.
13:13I give myself
13:1515 minutes and that's it.
13:17When you get up
13:19or when you open your phone
13:21and you go to Instagram or TikTok
13:23or Facebook, you know there's something wrong.
13:25Yes, it's like that.
13:27It's like an overdose.
13:29It's like an intoxication, I think.
13:31To be so aware of the networks.
13:33Pure addict there, look.
13:37It's very funny.
13:39It's like you said, you get up
13:41and the first thing you open is a social network
13:43and you read things that aren't good.
13:45To you or to another person.
13:47And suddenly it's that.
13:49It's normal in your day-to-day.
13:51Get up, see that, go to sleep with that.
13:53And you closed your eyes.
13:55You said, I can't do that.
13:57No, no, no.
13:59I don't choose that.
14:01I prefer...
14:03Social networks are a tool for work.
14:05We know that.
14:07For us it's also a way for everyone
14:09to show your work,
14:11to amplify your audience,
14:13your market, your business,
14:15your showroom, this and that.
14:17That's true, but that's it.
14:19You have to use it with that awareness.
14:21I feel that
14:23you have to have a lot of responsibility
14:25when it comes to showing.
14:27This is something that I always say.
14:29People criticize and meddle a lot
14:31without measuring the consequences,
14:33but you also expose yourself without measuring the consequences.
14:35Many times.
14:37You have to understand that it's a double-edged sword.
14:39You have to be very aware of that.
14:41If you don't, you'll open doors
14:43that you'll regret opening later.
14:45There are things that have to stay
14:47for privacy.
14:49I decided to stay
14:51more in the real world.
14:53You don't know how happy I am.
14:55It's beautiful, right?
14:57It's beautiful.
14:59Back to the roots.
15:01To life.
15:03To understand that what's happening
15:05and that there's a wave of immense hatred
15:07towards me, literally,
15:09it's something
15:11that you can't understand.
15:13It's my pleasure to dress up.
15:15How can you suddenly hate me
15:17because I put something
15:19that you don't like?
15:21It's something incredible.
15:23I had a wave of hatred
15:25for days and days and days.
15:27People grabbed me and said,
15:29this week we'll unload our frustrations
15:31with her.
15:33It was tremendous.
15:35I said, no, I'm not going to tolerate this.
15:37You said, I'll delete it.
15:39You sent a tweet and said,
15:41it's over.
15:43I sent a tweet and said,
15:45I can't believe this is happening.
15:47I'm leaving. And I left.
15:49I haven't come back.
15:51Do you feel good?
15:53I feel great.
15:55That's great.
15:57It's a big round of applause.
15:59I feel that
16:01that's spectacular.
16:03The truth is yes.
16:05And when you want to come back, you come back.
16:07And when you want to leave, you leave.
16:09Period.
16:11Who cares what I do?
16:13Who cares?
16:15In the end, it's your life.
16:17In the end,
16:19the only person you have to give
16:21an account to is God.
16:23When you leave
16:25from here,
16:27you leave everything
16:29that you are or what you were.
16:31All your efforts,
16:33everything you didn't sleep for,
16:35everything you cried for,
16:37stays in this flesh.
16:39It stays in the titles hanging on the wall.
16:41It stays in the award
16:43full of dust.
16:45And you leave.
16:47Your soul leaves.
16:49And when you get there, I tell you,
16:51what's up with this, this, this and this?
16:53You left a digital print
16:55here.
16:57You left a hate here.
16:59What are we going to do?
17:01My goal is this.
17:03My salvation.
17:05The rest
17:07doesn't interest me anymore.
17:09All this is like,
17:11the earth for me is like a set.
17:13I don't know if I'm explaining myself.
17:15We are all acting our characters.
17:17Everyone has their movie.
17:19Everyone has their play.
17:21Everyone opens and closes their curtain at some point.
17:23Totally.
17:25And when you leave the theater,
17:27you're going to have to take off your makeup.
17:29You're going to have to hang the character
17:31you were playing in the theater.
17:33And you're going to be there.
17:35Yes.
17:37So you have to be the best
17:39version of yourself.
17:41Totally. That's also a big round of applause.
17:43Yes.
17:47Yes, it's true.
17:49It's true.
17:51And trying to leave aside
17:53these important pressures
17:55and understanding that
17:57these are the projections of another
17:59who is projecting it on me.
18:01Just as it should happen
18:03to many people.
18:05Everyone has had a family member,
18:07a father, a mother,
18:09who projected what they couldn't fulfill.
18:11You were saying that the aunt commented
18:13on the boyfriend.
18:15Of course.
18:17I don't like this one.
18:19I like the other one better.
18:21Totally.
18:23It's a projection
18:25that you don't have.
18:27To understand, to let go,
18:29and to try not to take things personally.
18:31To understand,
18:33this person doesn't know me.
18:35It's fine.
18:37It won't affect you.
18:39It doesn't affect me.
18:41It's very important to me.
18:43And I also agree with what you said
18:45that therapy is a privilege.
18:47Yes, it's a privilege.
18:49And there should be more organizations
18:51that are listening to us.
18:53We are ready to support
18:55any of these big organizations
18:57that provide therapy
18:59to people.
19:01Because you can work on your body,
19:03do exercise, which is wonderful,
19:05oxygenate, breathe,
19:07eat well, your nutrition,
19:09your water,
19:11spiritually have a line, a faith.
19:13You can work on all that,
19:15but sometimes there is
19:17a small mental imbalance.
19:19Yes, totally.
19:21Or hormonal.
19:23So that's where
19:25you need a guide.
19:27Are we ok? Are you ok?
19:29It's not terrible.
19:31Let's move forward.
19:33Step by step.
19:35You need a network of support.
19:37You need that network of support.
19:39There are people who don't have it.
19:41There are things that you can
19:43externalize
19:45and end up developing
19:47some problems with your friends,
19:49but there are things, like you said,
19:51that chemically are not so good.
19:53I don't know, you have a chemist
19:55higher than the other.
19:57And it happens to all of us
19:59at some point in life.
20:01And that is something very heavy
20:03because that at times
20:05cannot be solved with a talk.
20:07There are people who need medication,
20:09there are people who need treatments.
20:11Or there are people who only need someone
20:13who tries to hold their hand,
20:15not to say anything,
20:17but to say, here I am.
20:19I'm in silence, but here I am.
20:21I understand you.
20:23You need more, right?
20:25So...
20:27That's what I get positive
20:29from social media.
20:31We're talking about this.
20:33It's tremendous.
20:35Today, my 14-year-old cousin
20:37knows the meaning of empathy.
20:39I didn't know anything when I was 14.
20:41It's a super advanced generation
20:43in terms of
20:45cataloging emotions.
20:47I didn't get ADD, ADHD,
20:49I got dyslexia because
20:51I've had dyslexia since I was little.
20:53And I don't know what else.
20:55But now
20:57there are too many
20:59things in the mind.
21:01So it's truly
21:03fascinating.
21:05And I love that
21:07there are these
21:09podcasts where you can talk
21:11and express and also learn
21:13from different doctors
21:15or specialists.
21:17It's fascinating.
21:19The world of social media is creating
21:21a lot of dialogue.
21:23That's incredible.
21:25When I was growing up,
21:27I got television, radio,
21:29and print media.
21:31Of course.
21:33So it was all more...
21:35We didn't talk about that.
21:37It was truly
21:39what they gave you
21:41was what the audience ate.
21:43What the company created
21:45was what the audience followed.
21:47What the audience listened to.
21:49And not anymore.
21:51Now the platforms are so open
21:53that everyone
21:55can have an audience.
21:57Everyone can express themselves
21:59in whatever way they want.
22:01Everyone can sing or act
22:03and create their own community.
22:05That's also very cool.
22:07That's very nice.
22:09It's a double-edged sword.
22:11You have to know how to use it.
22:13Use it responsibly
22:15and for a good cause.
22:17And with what you were saying
22:19before, it also happened
22:21that I feel
22:23that today
22:25it's very cruel with the artist
22:27and the people you're exposed to.
22:29But at least there's a big part
22:31that you see and understand.
22:33It didn't happen before.
22:35It happened to you
22:37when you had a sad day
22:39and you were on a show
22:41with low energy.
22:43I don't know.
22:45Such a person is completely depressed.
22:47What happened to her?
22:49It wasn't about depression.
22:51I never had
22:53a piece of paper
22:55or a rumor
22:57that she was depressed.
22:59She has ribs.
23:01She took them out.
23:03She's with this one and the other one.
23:05It was something else.
23:07It was something else.
23:09She fought with this one.
23:11It was a rumor.
23:13It was a rumor
23:15but no one
23:17really cared about it.
23:19You're right.
23:21It was a very private thing
23:23and very cool.
23:25When I was a teenager
23:27I went out
23:29with my friends
23:31without anyone filming
23:33to see how I was with the filter
23:35dancing and where I was.
23:37Or for someone to film you.
23:39To film me when I was a teenager
23:41someone had to put a
23:43VHS tape
23:45and hide
23:47and record you.
23:49It was different.
23:51Now you're well exposed.
23:53I don't know how you do it.
23:55We're talking about if you're
23:57pregnant one day.
23:59If you're pregnant
24:01and you go on stage
24:03that's it.
24:05Yes, that happens a lot.
24:07It also happens
24:09this.
24:11If you're pregnant one day
24:13the fillers are gone.
24:15Totally.
24:17Look, he has something here.
24:19Everyone has this.
24:21This cheek was here before.
24:23Of course.
24:25It's life. It's the age.
24:27That's how it is.
24:29Yes, that's how it is.
24:31But you have to be careful.
24:33Nowadays you have to be careful
24:35because you don't know who
24:37is filming you.
24:39What if you want to be Catwoman?
24:41A lady who pulled herself like that?
24:43Yes, I saw her.
24:45What if you want to be like that?
24:47And if you want to be natural
24:49and your skin all natural?
24:51What?
24:53If you want to be like Pamela Anderson
24:55without makeup on the red carpet?
24:57If you want to be Paulina Porizkova
24:59with gray hair and a bikini
25:01with a big body
25:03at 50 plus or almost 60?
25:05What?
25:07What?
25:09Totally.
25:11Yes, that's the thing.
25:13I feel like
25:15we should all treat it like that.
25:17But I feel like it's in the human being.
25:19It's inevitable.
25:21We can talk here all day.
25:23Totally.
25:25They're telling us to cut.
25:27Go to the next panel.
25:29We'll continue.
25:31We started really young too.
25:33I think that's what we have in common.
25:35We started
25:37and I feel like our mistakes
25:39as teenagers,
25:41as girls,
25:43our drunkenness, everything
25:45was exposed.
25:47My drunkenness wasn't.
25:49Yours wasn't.
25:51It wasn't Marimar,
25:53it was Maribar.
25:55Maribar!
25:57That's what we used to call her.
25:59But really,
26:01you had a very dramatic time.
26:03Everything was exposed.
26:05But you know what I didn't have?
26:07The paparazzi.
26:09You suffered a lot.
26:11Nowadays,
26:13we expose everything
26:15and I take a selfie,
26:17they know how I'm dressed,
26:19they know I'm with my boyfriend.
26:21You weren't on social media,
26:23so they needed to take a picture
26:25of you with your baby.
26:27You know what I mean?
26:29That never happened to me.
26:31I've never been followed by a paparazzi.
26:33Never.
26:35Tremendous.
26:37That was very hard.
26:39Every time I see
26:41videos of you or some other famous artist
26:43with paparazzi,
26:45I think, wow, that's a lot.
26:47That was very intense.
26:49What's up with that?
26:51There are people following you.
26:53And it creates a kind of...
26:55I think that's when
26:57I started to have agoraphobia.
26:59You panic
27:01when you're in public
27:03where there are a lot of people
27:05because you think someone
27:07is going to be watching you,
27:09someone is going to be capturing something
27:11that's not right,
27:13or that's going to grab your cellulitis
27:15or your mega-dick.
27:17We all have things
27:19that we think, we all have insecurities.
27:21Everyone.
27:23And whoever says no is a liar.
27:25Yes, yes.
27:27We all have something.
27:29Today, my hair grew like this.
27:31I'm very skinny, I'm very fat,
27:33I'm very full.
27:35People have their own things.
27:37That caused a lot of anguish.
27:39Because,
27:41look,
27:43he's doing this or that.
27:45People were following you.
27:47I was talking to Leila
27:49about this
27:51paparazzi thing.
27:53I remember that even El Gordo de Molina
27:55hung himself
27:57from a helicopter
27:59to film
28:01a video of mine that I did on the beach
28:03here in Miami.
28:05El Gordo de Molina was there with his camera.
28:07Hanging himself.
28:09Who knows how.
28:11El Gordo hung himself from the helicopter
28:13and there he was,
28:15with his mega-camera,
28:17filming.
28:19It's a band.
28:21The car chases, too.
28:23All of a sudden, you're being followed by a car.
28:25How long ago?
28:27That happened a lot in Argentina.
28:29A lot, a lot.
28:31In Argentina, I was hit by a lot of car trucks.
28:33I was escaping from the hotel
28:35to go to a party.
28:37I was escaping from the hotel
28:39in the trunk
28:41of a production car.
28:43A normal car.
28:45Not a limousine
28:47or a famous car.
28:49A normal car.
28:51And I got in the trunk.
28:53And we arrived.
28:55On the beach,
28:57at night, free.
28:59No one saw me.
29:01But in Argentina,
29:03there was a lot of paparazzi.
29:05Argentina had a lot of paparazzi.
29:07And not anymore?
29:09Not anymore.
29:11Because there's no demand.
29:13The first photo,
29:15the first mistake
29:17to judge that person,
29:19can't be sold anymore.
29:21It's not an income anymore.
29:23It's tremendous.
29:25It's strong.
29:27Sometimes I think of people like Justin Bieber.
29:29Oh my God.
29:31I can't believe it.
29:33Britney.
29:35That photo with her baby.
29:37You can't.
29:39Princess Di.
29:41From there.
29:43That moment when she
29:45raped herself.
29:47It was a huge crisis.
29:49Emotional.
29:51Ten million things.
29:53I feel a little tired
29:55that the world wants to see her
29:57perfect and divine.
29:59It sucks my balls.
30:01That was exactly that.
30:03Totally.
30:05At that moment,
30:07how cruel the world was with her.
30:09Like with Amy Winehouse.
30:11Today we can understand
30:13that the girl was having a hard time.
30:15She was having a bad time.
30:17And there was no one around her.
30:19No one defended her.
30:21People were like,
30:23you can do it, you can do it.
30:25That's why it's important
30:27to surround yourself with a team of people
30:29that you know are good people.
30:31Good people.
30:33Take care of your grandma, your mom,
30:35your aunt, your nephew,
30:37who works,
30:39who doesn't gossip
30:41in front of you.
30:43If he gossips in front of you,
30:45he will gossip in front of other people.
30:47Totally.
30:49You have to take care of yourself.
30:51Your environment is important.
30:53The environment of the people around you.
30:55And your visual environment.
30:57Waking up in the morning in a room
30:59full of clothes,
31:01I mean, I can't.
31:03You have to have everything clean.
31:05Because what you see
31:07can alter you.
31:09What you hear can alter you.
31:11If there's a lot of noise in your house,
31:13put on your things.
31:15If you have neighbors that play
31:17loud music, put on something.
31:19I don't know.
31:21Your whole environment triggers you.
31:23It triggers things
31:25that are draining you.
31:27Yes.
31:29They are cutting.
31:31They want to kick us out.
31:33We are happy kicking out Chal.
31:35Yes, yes, yes.
31:37We are missing the fabric.
31:39Totally.
31:41We would have a scarf here.
31:43For everyone.
31:45Totally.
31:47It has a lot of edges.
31:49A lot of edges, my love.
31:51But I want to congratulate you
31:53because you are doing it very well.
31:57You are an example in the desert.
31:59Because one way or another,
32:01God takes us to the desert.
32:03Yes.
32:05If he took Jesus to the desert
32:07after he was baptized,
32:09how is he not going to take us?
32:11To tempt us, just to see
32:13how polished,
32:15how good you can be.
32:17I mean, to clean you,
32:19to take away everything.
32:21Imagine gold.
32:23They have to burn gold
32:25to make it shine.
32:27We are those gold nuggets
32:29that we have to go through
32:31constant fire to be purified.
32:33Totally.
32:35So we have to know
32:37that we are going to go through that fire.
32:39We have to know that we are going to be
32:41in some deserts, but we have to have that faith
32:43that we are going to move forward
32:45and strong and always being positive.
32:47And giving love.
32:49Totally, yes.
32:51Giving love.
32:53Giving love.
32:55Thank you all for being here.
32:59What a beautiful talk.
33:01It was a pleasure.
33:05I love you.
33:07I love meeting you.