Nanawagan si Pangulong Bongbong Marcos sa Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office o PCSO na iwasan ang pagkakaroon ng “palakasan system” sa pamamahagi nito ng mga ambulansya.
Sisiguraduhin naman daw ng ahensya na hindi magagamit ang kanilang mga programa sa pamumulitika sa darating na Eleksyon 2025.
Paano ito maipatutupad ng ahensya? Iyan at ang iba pang isyu sasagutin ni PCSO General Manager Mel Robles sa #TheMangahasInterviews.
Sisiguraduhin naman daw ng ahensya na hindi magagamit ang kanilang mga programa sa pamumulitika sa darating na Eleksyon 2025.
Paano ito maipatutupad ng ahensya? Iyan at ang iba pang isyu sasagutin ni PCSO General Manager Mel Robles sa #TheMangahasInterviews.
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00:00Even during elections, there should be no politics in providing medical services, ambulances, and other additional donations
00:17is what the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office is focusing on right now.
00:21Let's talk to PCSO General Manager Mel Robles.
00:26Good day, GM Mel.
00:29Good day to you, Mel, and to all of our listeners and viewers.
00:35It's like Indonesian food.
00:38Anyway, our guest today is the former GM of the Light Rail Transit Authority and also a media personality.
00:49So Mr. Mel, the President said healthcare should not be politicized.
00:56That's why recently you distributed 129 ambulances.
01:01How did you choose who will receive it?
01:05Well, that's true. That's the President's directive from the start.
01:10That's the new Philippine brand of governance.
01:14Everything is equal even if you voted for something else, even if you have a political orientation.
01:20Under the new Philippines, we are just one country.
01:23We said that we will give everything.
01:27Our target is all municipalities.
01:30We will prioritize about 1,600 or 1,700 municipalities all over the country.
01:39This has never been done.
01:40This hasn't been done yet.
01:42But we will do it and we're already doing it.
01:45So far, we have reached already the 600 mark, something that the last administration...
01:50That's their total, last time 600 plus.
01:54We're now doing the 600 mark that we're giving because we are hoping that on the first half of the presidency of President Bongbong Marcos,
02:04we will be able to get 100 percent of the municipalities.
02:08In fact, it's funny because some people never thought that they will be given because starting from a small town,
02:16fourth-class municipality, they never had.
02:20They never had ever since.
02:22So what we're giving them, they don't even know how to write or submit the documents because they don't believe that they will be given.
02:30Okay.
02:30We will guide them.
02:32So far, we have given 129 ambulances.
02:37You said 1,600, cities, component cities, and municipalities, 1642 is the actual total.
02:45When is the rollout for the others?
02:47We're already starting. To date, since I came, we're already at 600 and the next 1,000 is coming in.
02:55It's been procured and the next 1,000 is coming.
02:59So it will be a busy day of distributing.
03:04What we want to show to the people is that there are a lot of them and we don't need to force them.
03:12That's what the President is trying to say.
03:14There's a force here, who will talk and who will go first.
03:18Politically, all of them are the same.
03:20We're just lamping them so that the distribution will be good.
03:24But the first one is the vote rich, the voters and the former opposition bailiwick, Bicol Region.
03:33The first one to submit.
03:35There are requirements, there are about four documents that are needed.
03:39The first ones will be processed immediately.
03:43All right. How much is the value of each ambulance?
03:47About 2.2 million per ambulance.
03:492.2 million. What are the facilities there?
03:53Because they said it's okay if there's an ambulance,
03:55but in tight areas, they only use a tricycle or in long distances, in hard to reach areas.
04:03What are the facilities of this ambulance?
04:05We have a stretcher that is easy to mount.
04:15The wheel rotates when it enters.
04:19If the stretcher is hard to mount, it also comes with a wheelchair.
04:23If it's hard to get in, it's a wheelchair.
04:27If the patient can still get in, we also have a sphygmometer, oxygen tank, those items.
04:37It's also sealed so that the driver and the doctor in front won't be affected.
04:43It's sealed so that if there's a COVID-19 event, the driver won't be affected.
04:51All right. The problem of some Kapos in the municipality is that there are cars or ambulances that don't have gas,
04:58and there are no drivers or health workers.
05:01That's true. They really need gas.
05:05But at the very least, they can move their patients, their constituents,
05:11to the nearest regional health center or to the nearest provincial health center.
05:17That's why we cannot give it to the barangay because there are no resources in the barangay.
05:24But at least the municipality...
05:26That's why we have an agreement with them for them to include in their budget the maintenance and operation of this ambulance.
05:34That's why we need the commitment of the municipality to do that.
05:40It seems like there's a comparison.
05:43It's like an announcement that the professional fees of doctors will be paid by the PCSO for indigent patients.
05:50Can you explain what is the budget allocated here and how much can they ask for help?
05:57Actually, it is the same budget.
05:59But the budget that we were given the other day does not cover professional fees in the room.
06:07Since we have a universal health care, in fact, it came from our fund.
06:14Forty percent of our charity goes to PhilHealth.
06:17So there's a big gap in our charity fund.
06:20But that's okay because we're just transferring the function.
06:24So you first go to PhilHealth, you go to DSWD, you go to DOH, if there's a local government unit.
06:33In the hierarchy of those who sleep, we are the last.
06:37We will be the last.
06:39I just noticed, like the congressmen led by Speaker Martin Romualdez, that most of the time, the only thing left is the professional fee.
06:50Correct.
06:51If PhilHealth and other agencies have already paid for it, the patient will still have to pay the professional fee.
06:58Correct.
06:59What we did is that our money is now applicable.
07:03It can be used for the professional fee.
07:06It's the same budget, but we have expanded its usage.
07:10So you can really zero out your cost in the hospital.
07:16That's what's good about this.
07:18Even if you get help, the professional fee is still not used.
07:24We have increased it, but its usage is what's good about this.
07:33PM, is there a limit?
07:35What is the maximum that they can ask for the professional fee and room cost?
07:40We have a limit for our branches.
07:45Normally, it's up to Php50,000.
07:47But before, we are not allowed to pay so that would be a lot.
07:52Next time, if we are not able to pay, it can be promissory note.
08:00It's hard for the doctor if he cannot accept it.
08:05Most of the time, this is the practice.
08:07Once we pay, no matter what amount for the professional fee, it will be accepted.
08:13As long as it's not zero. That's our experience.
08:17GML, our support for the indigents, how do they choose?
08:23What are the documents that they need to submit for them to qualify?
08:29You said the PCSO is the last stop.
08:31Well, number one, there's a final billing.
08:34Number two, there's a certificate of indigency.
08:39There's a medical abstract among others.
08:43There are only four.
08:44And then a letter to us.
08:46They will ask for help.
08:49That's your support for the PhilHealth and Universal Healthcare Law.
08:54Our problem is that PhilHealth also has indirect member support for the General Appropriations Act.
09:03Aside from the one from the PCSO.
09:06Aren't these funds being duplicated or triplicated for healthcare and health support?
09:13Because if you look at PhilHealth, they don't have a benefit for ambulant care.
09:18They don't have a benefit for professional fees.
09:22And the support value of PhilHealth for those who need to be confined,
09:26before you can draw help from PhilHealth,
09:30they say it can only reach 30 to 50 percent.
09:34It means it's out of pocket.
09:36Most of what our citizens are spending in hospitals.
09:40How is that?
09:41Can't these funds be consolidated?
09:44Because there's the PCSO, there's PhilHealth, there are congressmen who were helped.
09:51So to be honest, the funds are not enough.
09:54That's why it's triplicated.
09:56I agree.
09:57But I'm not venturing into that policy.
10:00But you're very right.
10:01I've seen that.
10:02In short, it's possible.
10:06But it's not for us to do that.
10:11That's a load.
10:12Sum it up.
10:14That's true.
10:17Actually, I have the same.
10:18Because the indigent is pitiful.
10:21Apply here, apply there, apply here, apply there.
10:24Although it's just paperwork.
10:26But the fact is, there is.
10:28Let me count diaries.
10:31Go, go home.
10:34DSWD, you'll be given.
10:37DOH, you'll be given.
10:40Mayor, you'll be given.
10:43And PCO, you'll be given.
10:45That's why it's zero.
10:47Correct.
10:48Experiences are zero.
10:49And then it begs the question, why not just one?
10:55That's my same question.
10:57I think that's why it's not just one.
10:59Because healthcare and support for patients is a very good come-on for voters.
11:06It's also good for claiming credit, whether you're a politician or a government agency.
11:10And that's already happening.
11:12Especially in PCSO and PhilHealth.
11:14All the elections that have passed have promotional value for politicians.
11:19Isn't that already happening?
11:21Nobody wants credit for pieces of the healthcare fund that is being distributed.
11:28I have no comment on that.
11:31That's why I'm asking.
11:33Because your project of professional fee coverage for Indigest,
11:38your endorsers, Speaker Martin Romualdez, Congressman Elizalde,
11:44party list rep Erwin Tulfo,
11:46all of them seem to be running in May,
11:49which is the year of the campaign period.
11:52But you have to admit, it was a good idea.
11:55I never thought of it.
11:57Because we're the only ones giving PCO.
12:01So we have to control.
12:03We know that the professional fee is unlimited.
12:06So let's not cover that.
12:08We've been doing this for 90 years.
12:12When it comes to universal healthcare, we've been doing this.
12:15So I think our predecessor thought, let's not include the professional fee.
12:20Because there's no limit.
12:24It depends on the doctor.
12:26So we focused our expenses on the procedures that they're doing.
12:33But since other agencies arrived, that's why we're relegated to the last line.
12:38But usually, the last line is the professional fee of the doctor.
12:43I said, why not?
12:44It was a no-brainer for us.
12:46Let's just apply because our expenses are the same.
12:50It will be the same amount.
12:52If you do that, you can get zero fee.
12:56And you're discharging it.
12:58Regardless if there's a policy or not,
13:01I think people benefit from that.
13:04That's true.
13:06It can't be denied that in the past elections,
13:09there were always stickers or tarps just like in the past, right?
13:16GMA Cares, the PhilHealthCard.
13:19Before that, ambulances with faces and names.
13:23Our ambulance doesn't have a face.
13:25It doesn't have a face.
13:27It's just a flag of the new Philippines.
13:30The brand of governance.
13:33I think that should be accredited.
13:37This is the brand of governance which is good.
13:42If it's embarrassing, let's not put it.
13:44But this is something, a badge of governance,
13:47and a badge that we should be proud of.
13:50We're very proud of that.
13:51In fact, we put it.
13:53Panata sa bayan.
13:55Biyaya sa mamamayan.
13:57It's good.
13:58It's too cheap, right?
14:01Now, GML.
14:03Our problem is, of course, your balance.
14:07The money that comes in, the money for donation.
14:10What is the in-out equation for you?
14:13How much do you donate every year and how much can you donate?
14:19Well, this is something peculiar for us.
14:23We have zero retention.
14:25While we are a GOCC, we have to earn,
14:28we cannot keep any profit.
14:30We are really zero.
14:31If there's still some left, we haven't given it to charity,
14:35it goes to the National Treasury.
14:37Actually, our charity fund is too committed to all other legislations.
14:45We support field health, we support CHER,
14:49we support the Dangerous Drugs Board, and a lot others.
14:53Our actual utilization of our budget is only 10%.
14:58That's why I chose the slogan,
15:00I'm not going to help because we cannot use that as an excuse not to help.
15:07Because they always call us,
15:09can we ask for help?
15:11Can you imagine?
15:12What will they answer?
15:13No.
15:14We still have to do that because by law, we have to be charitable.
15:18By law.
15:19So, that's how it is.
15:21We don't have retention.
15:24All right.
15:25Now, can you explain where your fund came from?
15:29Because there's an issue with the lottery,
15:32the online betting,
15:34how did you think that you will distribute it to the whole country?
15:38What is the origin of the PCSO fund?
15:41Just to be clear.
15:42The distribution to the whole country is under the Commission on Audit.
15:46That's the process and system.
15:48That is for everybody to see.
15:50We submit our financial statements.
15:53I think the government corporation,
15:56that's the least that can hide their income.
15:59They already know that.
16:00That's just a tip.
16:02That's not disclosed.
16:03But generally, our source of funding is from the lottery.
16:07We have a lottery,
16:09our jackpot games,
16:13and we also have small town lotteries.
16:15Correct.
16:17Is there a recent concern,
16:20the outlets that you shut down?
16:23A religious group appealed,
16:26Senator Rafi Tulfo,
16:28and you were asked in one of your budget hearings,
16:31what happened there?
16:32Why was it shut down?
16:35There is a new system,
16:37Philippine lottery system,
16:39that when I came,
16:40already awarded and implemented.
16:43They talked about 6,500.
16:47I didn't shut it down.
16:50That was the system when I came.
16:53But the good thing is that we will open more.
16:57We are aware that it is to our advantage to have more outlets.
17:04Actually, it's my same question.
17:06When you have 8,500,
17:08why did you go down to 8,500?
17:10I can give you a sensible answer.
17:12But instead of cursing the darkness,
17:16let's open up some more.
17:18That's what we will do.
17:20It's not easy.
17:22We have to open more,
17:24not because of any complaint of anybody,
17:26but because it is the wisest thing to do.
17:29For us to generate more income.
17:32That's our mandate.
17:34Generate income to do more charity.
17:36I admire the concern,
17:39but it's really for us when we have more outlets,
17:42and we did not remove anybody,
17:44not under my watch at least.
17:46When I came, that's how it is.
17:48They have to implement that.
17:50Before, there were two systems.
17:52When I came,
17:53they removed the Philippine lottery system.
17:55It became just one.
17:57So don't worry.
17:59I assure any senator,
18:01we will open more.
18:02Just give us a little time.
18:04In fact, by January,
18:06we will have about 5,000 more, I hope.
18:09For us, it's our advantage.
18:13More outlets,
18:15then you have more sales potential.
18:21Now, the issue of remote betting,
18:24what do the members of Congress think?
18:27They say that remote betting is like fishing
18:31when it comes to online cockpit,
18:33offline cockpit betting,
18:35or horse racing.
18:37What is your idea on that?
18:39Is there really a possibility of remote betting?
18:42As you know,
18:43even if it's a hamburger,
18:45it's online if you want the hamburger to go online.
18:49So it is just a payment system.
18:53During the pandemic,
18:55I was in PCSO then.
18:58We saw in the records that in fact,
19:00Congress admonished PCSO
19:02for not innovating
19:04in digital payments.
19:06Because when it closed,
19:08what was your option?
19:10You stopped your operations.
19:12So digitization is a reality that we have to face.
19:17In fact, it's an advantage
19:19because a lot of people are using digital.
19:22We counted 300.
19:24Yes.
19:25300 objects that are illegal
19:28and nobody cares about them.
19:30We have to do it
19:32because we have to target the market
19:36that cannot go to the outlet.
19:38Those who are disabled,
19:40those who are old,
19:42those who don't want to get wet
19:44and can't,
19:45those who cannot be parked.
19:47So a payment system is simply convenience.
19:50As you said, again,
19:52oft repeated,
19:54will our kiosks disappear?
19:57Definitely not.
20:00Lottery is jackpot driven.
20:05High tide lifts all ships.
20:09When the jackpot rises,
20:13when the jackpot rises,
20:15all sellers,
20:16whether you're on digital
20:18or you're on the kiosk,
20:20will have more sales.
20:21All right. Okay.
20:22What is this?
20:24You can see a timetable
20:25because you're right.
20:26Everyone can play.
20:28But online betting
20:30is not for PCSO,
20:32but for other apps,
20:33programs, or games.
20:35We're not even introducing a new game.
20:38This is just our lottery.
20:40Okay.
20:41What's sad is that
20:43what they're doing now
20:45is illegal.
20:47In fact, we sued a company
20:49or two.
20:50They made 4.7 billion in one year.
20:52Wow.
20:53This is illegal.
20:55This should be the focus
20:57of our lawmakers.
20:59How do we combat this illegal gaming?
21:02Using our draw,
21:03but collecting the bets.
21:04All right. Okay. Okay.
21:06How much is that in terms of taxes?
21:08That's a lot.
21:09All right.
21:10But do you have the capacity
21:11or a plan on how to do this?
21:13Of course,
21:14your tech support should be good.
21:17We've already done it.
21:18We've already tested it.
21:20I think this is a very simple app
21:25because it is not interactive.
21:27It's just like POS.
21:29It's harder to launch it
21:31because it's interactive.
21:33Interactive games
21:35are far more complicated.
21:37This is just a point of sale.
21:40That's it.
21:42There's no interaction.
21:44There's no you do this,
21:45you do that.
21:46It's hard to game
21:48with a mobile agent.
21:50No.
21:51How it works is
21:53if there's an online betting
21:55or remote betting,
21:57it means you'll choose the number
21:59and you'll click it.
22:00Cellphone or iPad or laptop.
22:03Then the payment is via e-wallet
22:06or PCSO partner.
22:09Is that so?
22:10Yes.
22:11If I win,
22:12is it online or digital?
22:14It depends on the amount.
22:16If there's something,
22:18you can send it to your wallet.
22:20But there are some amounts
22:22that you should come to the office.
22:24Alright.
22:25If it's big,
22:26like jackpot winners,
22:28you need to have a check.
22:30The good thing about this is
22:32you don't need to be anonymous.
22:34Okay.
22:35For the ticket,
22:37for practicality,
22:38for the purpose of being practical,
22:40of course,
22:41you don't have to wait
22:42for it to be written.
22:44The draw is already done.
22:45You're not yet in line.
22:47You use the bearer instrument.
22:50Whoever holds the ticket is the winner.
22:52Can you buy it?
22:54Yes, of course.
22:56But in the digital,
22:58your phone is registered.
23:00Who's registered?
23:01That's the question.
23:02What are the transparency issues there?
23:04You might get gamed
23:06by the illegals.
23:08It's hard because
23:10it's easy to say
23:12like you're watching Netflix.
23:14But we have ISO certification.
23:17We have world lottery accreditation.
23:20When the cut-off time comes,
23:24all the bets are out.
23:26You can't go in anymore.
23:29When that's published,
23:31you cannot insert anything
23:33because it's already in the flash drive.
23:35There's no way.
23:36Even if you have telepathy,
23:38that you can insert something there.
23:40There's no way.
23:42Okay.
23:43GM, you said
23:44almost all the income,
23:4690 percent,
23:47is brought out to charity.
23:50No.
23:5330 percent goes to charity.
23:55We have 15 OPEX.
23:5755 goes to the winning bets.
24:00Okay.
24:01So 30, 15.
24:0355.
24:04Okay.
24:05Now, the problem,
24:07as you said,
24:08of course,
24:09you have a neighbor
24:11who has a new building
24:13that's being built
24:14for 2 billion pesos.
24:15It's like state of the art.
24:17What's the story here?
24:19How will you fund it?
24:21When will you sell it?
24:23That was before.
24:24It's corporate funds.
24:26Okay.
24:27It was allocated a long time ago.
24:28Okay.
24:29Even, right?
24:30We have three presidents.
24:32It's been a long time.
24:34It's been a long time.
24:35First of all,
24:36the property has been there
24:38ever since PCSO started.
24:40So San Marcelino.
24:42The property is there.
24:44And then the construction was allocated
24:46even before me.
24:49It's been a long time.
24:50So I don't remember
24:53what they did.
24:54It's just that the fund is trusted.
24:57All right.
24:58What are the available facilities?
25:01Because it looks like
25:02it's really grand
25:04and it has a lot of digital systems.
25:07It's earthquake-proof.
25:09Earthquake-proof?
25:10For us to be sure for a long time.
25:12We have elevated it
25:13so that it won't be damaged.
25:15And of course,
25:16we have a medical center
25:18where an outpatient
25:20can accommodate
25:22a good number of equipment.
25:24And also a good draw court.
25:28That's where we will do it.
25:30Okay.
25:31Okay.
25:32GM,
25:33one issue that was recently highlighted
25:35is your libel
25:36or cyber libel complaint
25:39to some bloggers
25:42It looks like
25:43almost two decades ago
25:44was the incident
25:45that you cited.
25:46Can you please explain
25:47because you were accused of many things.
25:50Well,
25:51in December 2023,
25:55we had a vacation
25:56as we usually do.
25:58And then somebody said,
26:00this blogger here,
26:01I was there to kill her.
26:04I was out there to hire an assassin.
26:08I left my family
26:10to hire a killer.
26:13He was a NBI, FBI.
26:16So basically, that's it.
26:18But the truth of the matter is
26:19I was with my family
26:21to have a holiday.
26:23Which we traditionally do.
26:26I think,
26:27you can say anything about my job.
26:30It comes with the territory.
26:32I can't explain it.
26:36But to accuse me of murder,
26:39I can't do that
26:41because my orientation
26:44and my job,
26:45first of all,
26:46I am a founder of Buhay Partylist.
26:49We are a pro-life party.
26:53I am a founder of that.
26:55So I believe in the importance of life.
26:58I think it's morally
27:00and politically fair.
27:02It's very fair.
27:03That's why I'm glad
27:04when I went to the charity,
27:06that you need to give charity
27:08because you're obligated by the law.
27:10I'm glad about that.
27:12We helped 300,000 individuals last year.
27:15Most of them medical.
27:17And then you will accuse
27:18the general manager of PCSO
27:20of hiring hitmen to kill you.
27:23That doesn't match.
27:26And I don't even know her.
27:29I don't know her.
27:30I only met her during the campaign.
27:33It's a very, very surface thing.
27:38A surface encounter.
27:40And then you will accuse me with that.
27:42And worse,
27:43you even deleted the picture of my son
27:46who is a minor.
27:48You know, the hate crimes,
27:50that happens.
27:51You're the victim of the hate crime, my son,
27:53because you're accusing me
27:54of being a murderer
27:56or trying to hire someone to kill you.
27:58Is that even part of my job
28:01to expose my son as a minor?
28:03In your desire to hit back at the presidency
28:06or at the administration?
28:08I think we have to put our foot down.
28:11Okay.
28:12You're in the comfort of the United States.
28:13But there's also a means.
28:15I soon heard the states...
28:19Civil suit too?
28:21Yes, civil.
28:22Because only the state can sue.
28:24Slander, actually.
28:26Only the state can sue for criminal.
28:28For me, you know,
28:30we know that here.
28:32Just have to roll with the punches.
28:34But don't be like that.
28:36I think she has crossed the line.
28:38Okay.
28:39So do you have an update?
28:41What is the status of the case?
28:42Well, my lawyers called
28:44and she's availing,
28:46accepting the summons.
28:48So come October 15,
28:50my lawyers, if they can't serve her,
28:52they're using private investigators to do...
28:56Because that's their style.
28:57They won't accept it.
28:59They avoid that.
29:00They transfer homes.
29:02October 15, my lawyers will go to the court
29:04and tell the court,
29:05look, look, we have exhausted all means to serve.
29:08With this summons to her,
29:10she's availing,
29:11and then it's up to the court.
29:13But that cannot be forever.
29:15Do you have a clean-up drive
29:17or a reformation that was done
29:20to settle that,
29:22even if it's reputational damage
29:24in the PCSO?
29:25Well, I don't have a formal
29:27reputational damage encounter.
29:29As for us,
29:31mostly the people are co-terminals.
29:33That's how we are.
29:34You leave when your principal leaves.
29:36That's the situation here.
29:39Well, you know, I've been in LRTA.
29:41Correct.
29:43There's no one replacing us.
29:45It's about really letting the people move.
29:48Like you said,
29:49like in the trains,
29:50there's a release.
29:52It's easy because you don't have to reinvent the wheel.
29:59But it's also tough
30:00because you have to get out of that box
30:03of bureaucracy.
30:06In the government,
30:08in the people I've talked to,
30:10there's no case that's lazy.
30:11The only case is the hardworking.
30:13And sometimes,
30:15it's really like that.
30:16But I've got people who are very good
30:20at navigating the bureaucratic jungle.
30:23It's really hard.
30:24But it's not so hard for me
30:26because I also graduated from GOCC.
30:28I understand the dynamics.
30:30And more,
30:32because in LRTA,
30:34losing GOCC,
30:35we survived.
30:36Losing,
30:37as in I made it profitable.
30:39Nothing.
30:40You won the fund.
30:42Now, there is.
30:43Yes.
30:44Now, GM,
30:45the closure of POGOS,
30:48President Bongbong Marcos said
30:50that by the end of the year,
30:52it should be closed.
30:53Although, of course,
30:54PAG-4 is the major actor here
30:56in this discussion.
30:58But,
30:59there are also many illegal unlicensed
31:01or service providers
31:03who are willing to pay,
31:04even if the license is only 48,
31:07to be closed or to be closed.
31:09What is the effect on you,
31:11on the lotteries of PCSO?
31:14There's no POGO,
31:15but I do understand this.
31:17The moment you regulate too much,
31:19it's very easy for them
31:20to go underground.
31:22Nako,
31:23ang dali-dali sa kanila,
31:24cellphone lang,
31:25they go underground,
31:26using our draw.
31:27Can you imagine that?
31:28Dati,
31:29nagbabola pa yung wedding.
31:31Ngayon di eh.
31:32Manonood lang sa amin eh.
31:34And then,
31:35mapapadraw na sila.
31:36It's very easy.
31:37We really have to invest
31:38in enforcement
31:40because the taxes unrealized
31:42sa illegal gambling,
31:43you'll be surprised.
31:45If we're doing
31:4660 billion a year,
31:47they'll probably be doing
31:48180 billion.
31:50Okay.
31:51Kano nang projection,
31:52but I really have to
31:53get the data on that.
31:54These are rough,
31:55doing so much,
31:57what with no taxes?
31:59Walang regulation,
32:02walang OPEX.
32:03Can you imagine,
32:04cellphone na lang eh.
32:05So,
32:06we really have to focus
32:07on revenue generation.
32:08I don't know how they'll do it
32:10with POGO,
32:11but sa amin,
32:12simply with the government,
32:13must focus on running
32:15after the illegals
32:16and provide an option
32:18where they can
32:20bend their,
32:21their,
32:22yung itch nila
32:24to be lucky.
32:25Okay.
32:26Naging masaya ho
32:28ang lahat.
32:29Ano nung in-announce
32:30ng Pangulo yun,
32:31na ban na
32:32ang lahat ng POGO.
32:33Pero,
32:34he was talking about
32:35yung pwedeng ipasara
32:36yung lisensyado.
32:37At yung malaking trabaho naman
32:38na pagpapasara
32:39o pagputol
32:41sa operasyon
32:42ng mga ilegal,
32:43eh parang,
32:44hindi yata malinaw
32:45ano talaga yung trabaho.
32:46Ang malinaw lang
32:47e maraming ahensya
32:48ang dapat magtulong-tulong.
32:49Kayo ba may nasisilip
32:50na parang roadmap
32:51para talagang
32:52hindi man totally
32:53putulin
32:54o isara
32:55lahat ng ilegal
32:56eh
32:57makontrol
32:58at mapigil
32:59ang pagkala.
33:00Enforcement talaga
33:01should really be
33:02a whole of government
33:03approach.
33:04Kasi,
33:05kahit mahuli mo
33:06ma,
33:07kung yung DOG
33:08may bitawan lang.
33:09So,
33:10it has really
33:11to be
33:12a whole of government
33:14approach.
33:15Yung buong,
33:16buong food chain
33:17should work for it.
33:18Like ako sinasabi ko
33:19because
33:20it will create
33:21more revenues
33:22for government.
33:23Gano'n tayo
33:24kapag,
33:25kasi kami,
33:26kami ang nabiktiba.
33:27We will complain
33:28na huli yung operator
33:29eh pro-prosecute
33:30tapos iahablak.
33:31Pag ito,
33:32kung mga bagay na ito
33:33ay hindi nag-work
33:34in tandem,
33:35wala lang,
33:36kami,
33:37wala,
33:38hindi mangyayari
33:39ito not work.
33:40It's really,
33:41the government
33:42and the PNP
33:43of course,
33:44which is very prone
33:45to pakiusap.
33:46And the barangays.
33:47Diba?
33:48Prone to pakiusap
33:49yung mga yan eh.
33:50Kami,
33:51kami lagi
33:52ang nabiktiba
33:53niya sa,
33:54diba?
33:55Yung problema huy yata eh,
33:56ano mang illegal
33:57na network,
33:58ano po?
33:59Sugalan,
34:00pasugalan,
34:01illegal guns.
34:02E minsan ang problema
34:03yung mga nasa
34:04gobyerno,
34:05hindi lahat.
34:06Ano po?
34:07Pero protection racket.
34:08The more
34:09stringent the laws,
34:10gusto ng mga yan.
34:12Kasi,
34:13sila eh may kita
34:14on the side.
34:15Ganun po?
34:16Maraming bawal eh.
34:17Diba?
34:18E dapat talaga,
34:19everybody should work
34:20hand in hand.
34:21Malinaw dapat yan.
34:22Alright.
34:23Ang objective is
34:24more revenue stream.
34:25You know,
34:26I'm trying to make
34:27as dramatic as possible
34:28yung pagbigay namin
34:29ng tulong.
34:30This is because
34:31I want to send
34:32that message,
34:33look,
34:34this is where it goes.
34:35Where your money goes.
34:36Yes.
34:37So,
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