La renuncia política de Roberto García Moritán y las declaraciones de Pampita
Pampita desmiente los rumores sobre su declaración como testigo tras la renuncia de Moritan. Enfatiza que la información es falsa y se enfoca en su familia. Expresa confianza en la inocencia de su exmarido, Roberto, y espera disculpas por las acusaciones infundadas. Destaca la presión mediática y su intención de proteger a sus hijos mientras retoma su rutina laboral.
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00:00She renounced Mauritania.
00:02I was recording, I didn't know anything, so...
00:04Good. Did you know you were going to be called to testify?
00:08That's not true.
00:10That you're going to be called to testify, but as a witness.
00:13Don't say things that aren't true.
00:15You can deny yourself for being the wife.
00:16No, that's not true.
00:17It's not true. The information is false.
00:19It's not true.
00:19Can we know how you are?
00:20Trying to be good for my family, because I have kids to raise, guys, you know?
00:25I have to be up to raise my children.
00:28Did you not like the words from Roberto's mother, who said you were very tough,
00:32that you told her you were going to destroy him, or can you deny that?
00:35No, I'm not going to answer anything.
00:37I have to take care of my family, and Roberto is always going to be my family,
00:41so I'm not going to say anything anywhere, never,
00:43not this week, not later, never.
00:46What are you supporting, Caro, right now?
00:49My children, who are the engine of my life, and who give me strength for everything.
00:53When you hear the accusations made against your ex-husband today,
00:57what goes through your head, what goes through your body?
01:00I hope they apologize to all those who told so many lies this week,
01:05but, well, that doesn't usually happen on TV, but...
01:07Do you trust that he is innocent and that he is not corrupt?
01:10I hope, as they spent so much time saying these things,
01:13when they find out the truth, they spend the same time clarifying things.
01:17It's been a long time since I've been in the media, I know how tremendous it is to be exposed,
01:22and it's a lot of pressure, and, well, it's not easy.
01:27The truth is that it's not easy, in the career in which you are, it's not easy.
01:30I don't know what it is to have you as enemies, how difficult it is,
01:34but, well, you choose the professions because you are passionate about them, you like them,
01:39and, well, if you are exposed, it would seem that you have to deal with it,
01:42but it's not always easy to be under so much pressure.
01:44The truth is, I have to be fine, I have to be fine,
01:47so that's what I'm trying to do, going back to my work routine,
01:50taking care of my family.
01:52But maybe to clarify, if you don't want to, no,
01:54but when they talk about so many cases of corruption lately, Roberto,
01:57do you think it's all a lie, what is being said,
02:00that there are no cases of all those who are talking, that maybe it can be true?
02:03That will be clarified by justice, and I hope they apologize when that happens.
02:07I have to go. A huge kiss.
02:09Were you surprised that he has already resigned?
02:11It's not possible, but I have to go.
02:12Thank you. Thank you, Pampita.
02:15Well, very good note.
02:18The truth is that it says a lot of things.
02:21Is it difficult to be in front of you?
02:25Of course, when you have them as enemies.
02:27Have them as enemies.
02:28Have them as enemies.
02:29But still, because they make it clear,
02:31as if the journalists were guilty of something.
02:33Still, it went down, first it went down seven changes
02:35in relation to the statements about Moritán,
02:37with which it is seen that both the pressure of the mother and all the story
02:41made it go down.
02:44And now the bad guys are us.
02:47We're going to have to apologize.
02:49Guys, I'm sorry, I didn't feel that.
02:50I felt that.
02:51Excuse me, you say it's corrupt.
02:53Your ex-partner asks you, is it corrupt?
02:55You're the first thing you say.
02:56How are they going to say that?
02:57They're crazy.
02:58Pampita said, well, guys, a person that you know,
03:03that you lived with, that you know how it develops, how it works.
03:07If I ask you, Flor Pablo, is it corrupt?
03:09No.
03:10Well, it's a sharp answer.
03:12Well, but he doesn't work in politics.
03:14No, guys, but he lives with it.
03:16I don't know, it seemed to me that in some way
03:18she still leaves a lot of doubts.
03:20No, I think that compared to how she was going to declare it at the time,
03:23it went down three changes and it even began to defend it.
03:28Maybe now there are some explanations that began to close it a little more
03:31and that's why she also...
03:32But if they don't talk.
03:33Anyway, I tell you and I tell Pampita that the request on Friday
03:37was made in the Catamarca court for her to be cited as a witness.
03:41She gets angry when they ask her about that.
03:43She got angry.
03:44Because she doesn't want to be immersed in any judicial cause
03:47that has to do with her conduct.
03:48Guys, she's right.
03:49It gave me a little bit that they are hanging on the fame of Pampita,
03:52the one from Catamarca that we released the other day.
03:54Sorry.
03:55It gave me...
03:56I felt the same.
03:57That they were hanging on the figure.
03:58It doesn't matter.
03:59They're not going to declare it.
04:00That's obvious.
04:01Do you know how many times it has happened to me as a witness?
04:03And I'll give it to you.
04:04In the case of Soldán in Santiago de Chile, it was more than 80 times.
04:07You can't lie.
04:08What happens is that it really doesn't have...
04:10Come on, I'm not going there.
04:11They didn't talk to me very well about the lawyer who came out.
04:14Then a lot of people came to me.
04:15I say people I trust who live there.
04:19Did they talk to me about the cause?
04:20No, about that man.
04:21The lawyer who came out.
04:23And all the people I mentioned.
04:25It's like...
04:27Taking out what supposedly...
04:29That supposed proof that they say he has of the account.
04:32There is nothing that links them.
04:33Neither to Pampita, nor to Moritanco, nor to those people.
04:36There is nothing that links them.
04:37Not in a photo.
04:38They were never seen together.
04:39Nor at an event.
04:40Nor in anything.
04:41So from that place.
04:42It's suspicious.
04:43Well, he was talking and he came out here.
04:46That's what they told me in Catamarca.
04:47I don't know.
04:48Flor.
04:49When we asked him.
04:50From here we asked the man twice.
04:52Maybe he's right.
04:53I don't know.
04:54Then the justice will say it.
04:55But we asked him twice.
04:56What does it do to you?
04:57What proof do you have to link it to Moritanco, that swindler?
05:01And he didn't know how to answer.
05:02Well, but it's the tension he has, guys.
05:06He went to testify as a witness, Moritanco.
05:08But what Burrondo says is that it has already been clarified.
05:10It was not consistent what the lawyer says.
05:12You have to tell the truth.
05:13Guys, I think it's important what she said.
05:16Now, unlike the last statement she had made.
05:20I felt her much more in defense of him.
05:24Of course.
05:25Much more.
05:26I understood the same.
05:27Me too.
05:28Sorry.
05:30Of course.
05:33But let's go back to the question.
05:37Well, yes.
05:44Calm down, of course.
05:46Excuse me.
05:47Excuse me.
05:53Of course.
05:56Of course.
05:58That's another thing.
05:59You're right there.
06:00That's where I think he's wrong.
06:01No, but I think he's wrong.
06:02How are we going to lower the tone and say that now they're going to have to apologize to me?
06:06Put everyone in the same bag.
06:07That's it.
06:08He's wrong about taking pictures of the journalists.
06:10For me, I think.
06:11No, I think the excuse is not for him.
06:13If it's not for her too.
06:14He said it, he said it.
06:15Clearly.
06:16They're going to have to apologize to him.
06:17He said it.
06:18Okay, but wait.
06:19Twice.
06:20But excuse him.
06:21He had to resign from his position.
06:23There is an accusation.
06:24Guys, why does he resign?
06:25I have data on that.
06:26Why does he resign?
06:27Well, that's clearly what we don't know.
06:29Because here, from the moment she released the statement, which began to speculate,
06:34they said, well, why does he end up leaving?
06:37Why is he leaving?
06:38It's because of the scandal, because of the separation, because of this complaint.
06:42And I, because of the information I brought last week,
06:45three months ago they were looking for another person to take over.
06:49They couldn't find her.
06:50So I say, this goes further.
06:52Something had to do with political management.
06:53It has nothing to do with anything else.
06:55That's what they were talking about.
06:56With non-management.
06:57Of course, with non-management.
06:58Do you remember that we had just told the issue that the exit of Moritán from the city government
07:04was going to be, in some way, first with a license?
07:07Yes.
07:08That's what he intended.
07:10He wanted to get a license for a certain time.
07:14But what happens, this was told to me on the weekend,
07:17that the Cava law does not contemplate that type of license.
07:21For a minister.
07:22That is, license because.
07:23Why?
07:24Because it can only be for illness, for something.
07:26It can be for maternity, paternity, illness, or sports issues can also give you.
07:32But he didn't have, not for divorce.
07:34There was no type of license.
07:36So what happened?
07:37They told him, look, you can't get a license because the law doesn't allow it.
07:40Dear, resign.
07:42Here's a topic of what he's going to live.
07:44No, because what happens is that they asked him, they didn't want to kick him out.
07:48This is the truth.
07:49Of course.
07:50They felt, because they felt, they felt that he was very violent.
07:54But they didn't kick him out.
07:56And they also owed him favors.
07:58Also, putting the votes together, they got to where they were too.
08:03I mean, they saw Moritán's votes at the time.
08:05So they would have given him that position.
08:07Maybe he was not prepared.
08:09You see how politics is.
08:11I don't know how, but well, the question was that.
08:14If the guy left a party or had made an alliance with one and gives the votes to another, it was wrong.
08:22And they were also going to have to give explanations.
08:26If they kick him out, it's because they kicked him out.
08:28Because of this scandal.
08:29The truth is that they kicked him out because of the scandal.
08:31Well, maybe the issue of the denunciation for the gnocchi advances.
08:34Beyond the fact that he resigned.
08:36I saw with the deputy, she told me that she couldn't advance it.
08:39No, but it's not her.
08:41It's another denunciation.
08:43I'll give you one more piece of information.
08:45You see that when he goes up to this position, he does it quite working together with Yamil Santoro.
08:52Yes.
08:53They end up fighting, they end up badly.
08:56And what Yamil and many of the government's environment said is this phrase.
09:01He came to power and got confused.
09:04When he came to power, he got empowered.
09:08The smoke went up.
09:10This is what the people of the government say.
09:12Do you remember what I commented last week?
09:14That when he came in directly, he already had an attitude that put all the people against him.
09:19There is a video.
09:20Let's hear one thing.
09:21Abelito, can you read Moritán's statement, please, from Friday?
09:24My priority is the well-being of my family.
09:26That is why I decided to take a step aside from my role as Minister of Economic Development.
09:30I always believed in a policy of people's service.
09:33Prioritizing and empowering women, entrepreneurs and all those who generate value in the city of Buenos Aires.
09:38Thank you very much to every gastronomist, hotelier, merchant and creative.
09:41To all those who invest, produce and believe in the work as the engine of development.
09:45It was an honor to have been Minister of the City.
09:48Well, look at the time of that statement.
09:51Guys, it's strong.
09:52The truth is that on Friday, when I was at home and I saw this.
09:55Because if you see the whole novel from Carolina's statement.
09:59Because it had been before his statement, right?
10:02First it was his statement on Saturday.
10:04Yes, a while ago that we are here.
10:06And look how it ended, a week.
10:08A week.
10:09A week.
10:10And they categorically said to me, don't pass this week.
10:12And it was like that.
10:13Well, he has two children with Milagro Brito and Anita.
10:17So life goes on and he has to keep spending money for one family, for the other.
10:22Milagro Brito would have offered him, first, a private plane in case he wanted to leave the country.
10:28And second, a job.
10:31Well, he has to work, right?
10:33Look at the time of that, 17.25.
10:36He left the ministry directly at 18.
10:39There he had fallen with a very informal look.
10:42He no longer had the suit, let's say, of an official.
10:44This was, in some way, also spoken with the communication of the city government.
10:49To see what was going on.
10:50It is the strategy of the hour.
10:51The strategy of the hour.
10:52Friday guys.
10:53And.
10:54Why do you pass it on a Friday?
10:55So that it is not spoken of you or so that it is spoken less of you.
10:57He went to look for a woman, they tell me, a girl.
10:59That some believe that she is also one of the last secretaries he has.
11:03That they heard people who were there.
11:05He said if they were going to take him to his house or not.
11:08And he said, no, first I have to go to other places and clarify other things.
11:11And from there he left.
11:13Very informal and that they also saw him very thin.
11:16Something.
11:17Yes, I noticed it too.
11:18Something that makes me think of the things that Carolina said.
11:21Because the truth is that it is a lot to analyze.
11:24She somehow invites him or brings him to the medium and generates this great exposition.
11:31It was obvious from Manuel that if they finished.
11:34In addition to him belonging to the public function.
11:37This was going to happen.
11:38What did they pretend?
11:39That people do not speak?
11:40That they do not say?
11:41I do not know.
11:42Or not?
11:43I do not know what others said.
11:44I do not know what is being said about him.
11:46They invented or did not invent.
11:47The truth is that they did not invent anything.
11:49Here in this program nothing was invented.
11:50That's why I say.
11:51She does not talk about Moritán.
11:52For me, beyond being asked about Moritán.
11:54She also talks about her.
11:56Because the situation when she ...
11:57We did not say anything.
11:58No, but not us.
11:59But many people said, well, Pampita is going to have to go to declare.
12:02Pampita is going to have to answer the questions.
12:04I tell you one thing.
12:05Many people do not.
12:06We do interviews.
12:07An interviewee came out of this program.
12:09That's what I mean.
12:10Sure.
12:11And a lawyer.
12:12No, but she gets angry with journalism.
12:13A lawyer said he was going to call her.
12:14The newspaper did not say it.
12:15That's a mistake by her.
12:16A person who interviewed.
12:17Well, but stop.
12:18As a witness, you can call her.
12:21As a witness, you can call her to declare that.
12:23Sure.
12:24And she answers.
12:25And that she trusts her.
12:26And apart from another thing, also in which I do not agree,
12:29is when she talks about having you as enemies.
12:32As here there are no friends or enemies.
12:34The biggest enemy was the mother-in-law who threatened her with an audio.
12:38That's why.
12:39Journalism tells.
12:40Journalism informs.
12:41I say, some will do it better, others worse.
12:43The truth is that we are not going to judge what each colleague does.
12:45But in this case, I say, having them as enemies.
12:48Will there be a reconciliation?
12:50That note made a lot of noise to me.
12:52To me too.
12:53I saw it very calm.
12:54The version changed.
12:55But hey.
12:56I doubt the reconciliation a lot.
12:58Me too.
12:59But I did see it calmer.
13:00And out there he argued with someone.
13:02No.
13:03Maybe he investigated.
13:04Of course.
13:05And put his hands in the game.
13:06They told him, Carolina, you are destroying it.
13:07There is nothing.
13:08Go down a little.
13:09Clarify because you are destroying it.
13:10So it is clear that they were separated by infidelity or not.
13:13Infidelity.
13:14They told me that she was in constant communication with her lawyer, with Segundo Pinto.
13:19What she wants, in some way, is for the divorce to be as soon as possible.
13:22They told me this on the weekend.
13:24Pampita's lawyer is also an actor.
13:27Not only is he a lawyer, he is an actor.
13:29He did several series.
13:30And Carolina met him through Amigos en Común.
13:32She did not want a media lawyer.
13:34In fact, it is very difficult to get to him.
13:35An actor lawyer.
13:36No, no.
13:37I mean a media lawyer.
13:38A joker.
13:39A roast.
13:40A lawyer who has access to the media.
13:41And they don't want him to talk.
13:42And she chose a lawyer with a lower profile.
13:44Because in fact the lawyer does not want to talk.
13:45No, he doesn't talk.
13:46At Carolina's request.
13:47But he is in constant communication.
13:49And what she wants is a quiet divorce.
13:51Beyond the fact that she is not going to do it mediatically.
13:53But quiet with Moritán.
13:54For the daughter.
13:55Going back to the subject of what Carolina said.
13:57To have you as enemies.
13:59But if ...
14:00In addition ...
14:01At least this program.
14:02We are going to talk about intruders.
14:03Exactly.
14:04What we do is tell information.
14:06And also analyze what they tell.
14:08Yes.
14:09About the statements that Moritán made.
14:10The chats.
14:11Moritán made two statements.
14:12And he went on a program to talk about the separation.
14:15After a lot of notes.
14:16Then she published chats.
14:17Because she did not agree with the date that Moritán had put.
14:2020 chats.
14:21Of the separation.
14:22So we analyze a little what they tell.
14:25Do you know how she would have found out?
14:28He called her on the phone.
14:30One of the involved.
14:32Involved.
14:33And he told her, I'm going out with your husband.
14:35And yes.
14:36And when they call you on the phone.
14:39Could it be the evidence that she said she had evidence?
14:41In the first publications of chats?
14:44Do you remember what she said?
14:46Maybe there are many versions found.
14:48That's why I ask.
14:49If it was out of infidelity.
14:50Or if it was for another topic.
14:52Because she banked infidelities.
14:54Corruption would be.
14:55In previous relationships.
14:56And we are forgetting a topic.
14:57No, no, guys.
14:58No.
14:59They are leaving things out.
15:00I have no doubt.
15:01Because before the statement that she just made in the note that we passed.
15:04When he said, they will have to apologize.
15:07It was the best.
15:08Because now she is involved too.
15:10No, maybe it could be.
15:12He left her.
15:14It's true.
15:15It's what he says.
15:16And it's what I told here.
15:17From that famous chat and message that he sends to his people.
15:20That I agree with everything that his mother's statement.
15:22It seems that he had read that chat.
15:24That has to do with that.
15:25With the explanation that he gives.
15:27In fact, he puts a date.
15:29Saying that it's been a while.
15:30And in that chat he says.
15:31I got a peso from above.
15:33And we had two difficult weeks.
15:34Those two weeks before Carolina said October 20.
15:38I would like to see Caro's note again.
15:40Because the truth is that it is interesting to be able to analyze.
15:43The body, right?
15:45His tone of voice.
15:46Also the posture he has when talking to him.
15:49That I did not feel in other interviews.
15:53Or to the margin that I don't talk much.
15:55But I would like to share it with you.
15:57And we see it.
15:58And we analyze it here.
16:00Pampita renounced Moritan.
16:03I was recording.
16:04I didn't know anything.
16:05So...
16:06Good.
16:07Did you know they were going to call you to testify?
16:09That's not true.
16:11That they call you to testify.
16:13But as a witness.
16:14That's not true.
16:15Don't say things that are not true.
16:16You can deny yourself for being the wife.
16:18No, that's not true.
16:19It's not true.
16:20The information is false.
16:21It's not true.
16:22Can we see how you are?
16:23Trying to be good for my family.
16:25Because I have kids to raise, guys.
16:27Do you understand?
16:28I have to be up to raise my children.
16:31Did you like the words of the mother?
16:33Of Roberto.
16:34Who said that you had been very hard.
16:35That you had told him that you were going to destroy him.
16:37Or can you deny it?
16:39No, I'm not going to answer anything.
16:41I have to take care of my family.
16:42And Roberto will always be my family.
16:44So I'm not going to say anything anywhere.
16:46Never.
16:47Not this week.
16:48Not later.
16:49Never.
16:50What are you supporting, Caro, at this moment?
16:52My children.
16:53Who are the engine of my life.
16:55And who give me strength for everything.
16:57What are the accusations that they make to your ex-husband today?
17:00That it goes through your head, that it goes through your body.
17:03I hope they apologize to all those who said so many lies this week.
17:08But well, that doesn't usually happen on TV.
17:10Do you trust that he is innocent and that he is not corrupt?
17:13I hope, as they spent so much time saying these things,
17:16when they find out the truth, they dedicate the same time to clarify things.
17:20It's been a long time since I've been in the media.
17:22I know how tremendous it is to be exposed.
17:25And it's a very big pressure.
17:27And well, it's not easy.
17:30The truth is that it is not easy.
17:31In the career you are in, it is not easy.
17:33I don't know what it is to have you as enemies.
17:35How difficult it is.
17:37But well, one chooses the professions because they are passionate, they like them.
17:42And well, if you are exposed, it would seem that you have to bank it.
17:45But it is not always easy to be under so much pressure.
17:47The truth is, I have to be fine.
17:49I have to be fine.
17:50So that's what I'm trying to do.
17:52I'm going back to my work routine.
17:54Containing my family.
17:55But maybe to clarify, if you don't want to, no.
17:57But when you talk about so many cases of corruption lately, Roberto,
18:00do you think it's all a lie what is being said?
18:03That there are no cases of all those who are talking,
18:05that maybe it can be true?
18:06That will be clarified by justice.
18:08And I hope they apologize when that happens.
18:10I have to go.
18:11A huge kiss.
18:12Were you surprised that he has already resigned?
18:15Thank you, Pampita.
18:18Well, this is what Carolina was saying.
18:21Apart, they also mix like two things.
18:23Because, on the other hand, there is something that happens to the public
18:27that generates a lot of empathy.
18:29A lot.
18:30She.
18:31So, you see, now everyone is, obviously, on her side.
18:35But it also leaves me thinking about several of the things that Caro says.
18:39Because it seems to me that it is contradictory.
18:43To say, I want to take care of my family.
18:45I want to take care of my family.
18:47So, why do you publish?
18:49When he makes a statement, you publish those 20 chats.
18:52It seems that this is not taking care of the family.
18:54And then, also, when he comes from Chile,
18:56he says something like the truth.
18:58I've always liked the truth.
19:00So, he leaves like...
19:01Yes.
19:02He left the truth because it's a lie.
19:03He leaves like open doors.
19:05And then the speculations are born.
19:07Because if you don't want to talk, you don't talk directly.
19:10You don't publish anything and you keep it.
19:12And the truth is that nothing.
19:14It seems to me that when that happens, it is impossible not to speculate.
19:16It is impossible that journalism, and above all, that there is something that is the ABC.
19:19If they measure, they will talk.
19:21It will always be like that.
19:22When they stop measuring the subject, they don't talk anymore.
19:24But as long as they keep measuring, they will...
19:26And that public will get angry and then talk.
19:28But, you see, because you have to get...
19:29We always say that the celebrities have to take out their phones when they are angry.
19:33Because these kinds of things always happen.
19:35But you encourage with that guy.
19:37Do we speculate with things?
19:39Yes.
19:40No, no, to invent.
19:42What Pampita gives.
19:44What Moritán gives.
19:46What the lawyers give.
19:47What Moritán's mother gives.
19:49The complaints that appear.
19:51The lawyers who complain.
19:53The note from Moritán's mother says a lot.
19:55It is spectacular.
19:56It says a lot.
19:57It says a lot.
19:58It even accuses her that she let go of her hand.
20:01When she shouldn't have done it.
20:03That she didn't see her granddaughter.
20:05And let's not forget that the boss repeats.
20:07Because when it happened with Benjamin, it happened the same.
20:09It's just that at that moment she didn't show a chat.
20:11But she showed her own images inside her house.
20:13That's why I don't think she regrets it.
20:15For me, Carolina does it consciously when she publishes things.
20:18Because, as she says, I don't want her to say I'm a liar.
20:20Sorry, I'm against it today.
20:22But I don't think...
20:23No, but it's okay, everyone thinks differently.
20:25That's why, but I don't think she regrets it after publishing it.
20:29Because it seems to me that when she publishes, she shows a chronology.
20:32Is it clear what Carolina says in Benjamin's chronology?
20:34No, the chronology is not understood.
20:36But what changes anyway?
20:39Well, she says it in the notes.
20:41She doesn't want to look like a liar.
20:43Because they try to make her look like a liar.
20:45It must be something she thinks.
20:47No, because she saw herself a few days before in that wedding.
20:49And the kisses appeared.
20:51I guess that's why she says, but Carolina looks like a madwoman.
20:54Or in the Martin Fierro.
20:56But he said there were two difficult weeks.
20:58That they were in crisis.
21:00I think he denied it.
21:02I didn't read it, I didn't see it.
21:04Those two difficult weeks were the birthday, the kisses, in front of everyone.
21:06What does it mean that they act?
21:08What does it mean that they act?
21:10Did you see it too?
21:12Yes.
21:14Sometimes you can be in a crisis situation and you have better moments or days.
21:18Maybe at the wedding they went and they were better.
21:20But for me it was after going.
21:22Maybe they were trying.
21:24The birthday is that for me.
21:26That coincides with what Rinaldi says, he went to the hotel.
21:28No, but what Rinaldi said was before.
21:30I don't know, guys.
21:32After three years, who is my love here, my love there?
21:34It's a lot.
21:36Sorry.
21:38I don't know.
21:40Call me hard.
21:42After so many years, I became cold.
21:44I became a Greek tattoo.
21:48I don't know.
21:50Maybe my heart is too much like that.
21:52Of wood.
21:54Paz Cornu here in Estruso.
21:56When was it? Last year?
21:582022.
22:00Paz Cornu.
22:02You know a lot.
22:04Tell people what Paz Cornu was.
22:06Paz Cornu,
22:08who escapes the monstrosity again.
22:10I think people at this time
22:12don't separate for a horn.
22:14What do you want me to tell you?
22:16For me, this is another time.
22:18It's not like before.
22:20People don't separate for a horn.
22:22There are other things here.
22:24This was not a horn.
22:26I'm sure.
22:28How old are you? 12 years?
22:30I'm tough.
22:32When you were naked all your life
22:34and you asked for a wish
22:36to be happy with a person who takes care of you
22:38and the guy offers you a wedding
22:40and your life is going to be spectacular
22:42and he shits you.
22:44Don't you get angry?
22:46I don't know.
22:48It's very special.
22:50Each person is a world.
22:52For me, it has nothing to do with that.
22:54I think people at this time
22:56don't separate for a horn.
22:58There is another thing.
23:00I don't even believe in his suspicion of corruption.
23:02Tell me what happened on Saturday.
23:04As always,
23:06this promise
23:08that goes to Lujan.
23:10Exactly.
23:12It has a very special thing
23:14with the Virgin.
23:16When the fire happened in Cordoba,
23:18she uploaded that image
23:20of the Virgin's figure
23:22that remained intact.
23:24She has a certain devotion
23:26to the Virgin.
23:28Every year, she does this pilgrimage.
23:30She belongs to a group
23:32that had a number
23:34where they were all registered.
23:36Not all of them
23:38had that kind of assignment.
23:40It's a parish.
23:42She belongs to that group.
23:44In this case,
23:46it was different
23:48because there is a very important stop
23:50in the Moreno area
23:52where the Virgin
23:54and a very humble chapel
23:56enter the place.
23:58She didn't do it this year.
24:00She kept walking.
24:02That's why she arrived
24:04around 6 p.m.
24:06There were some colleagues
24:08who were able to cross her.
24:10It's always a sea of people.
24:12Many people didn't come.
24:14We waited for her
24:16in that place at 5.30 p.m.
24:18She decided to continue.
24:20People who saw her
24:22went up.
24:24Apparently,
24:26she started from Liniers.
24:28Some say she could have
24:30gone up to another stop.
24:32She didn't wear sunscreen.
24:34She was very tan.
24:36I see the images
24:38and she doesn't look like
24:40a woman who just separated.
24:42I'm surprised by her power.
24:44She may have had terrible things
24:46in her life.
24:48Much more serious.
24:50Maybe after so many years
24:52of love failure,
24:54one starts to take it
24:56in a different way.
24:58Many people
25:00took a selfie with her.
25:02Many told her
25:04to hold on.
25:06Leave her alone.
25:08Stay alone.
25:10No need to be with anyone.
25:12Everyone is on her side.
25:14Let's see the tape.
25:20After a 17-hour pilgrimage
25:22to Lujan,
25:24among all these people
25:26who decided to visit
25:28the Virgin of Lujan,
25:30we find Pampita.
25:38Pampita was one of the first
25:40to head the entire
25:42pilgrimage.
25:44The main march.
25:46No, it's for nothing.
25:48She came all the way
25:50to this place, the Basilica.
25:52While she was going up,
25:54she was sharing this material
25:56on her social media.
26:12Behind me is the Basilica.
26:14Pampita came here,
26:16like every year.
26:18Despite everything,
26:20she said,
26:22again,
26:24present.
26:38She looked very excited.
26:40As Pablito said,
26:42she is very religious.
26:44She is very religious.
26:46When you enter the Basilica,
26:48it's like there's something.
26:50In those 100 meters,
26:52150 meters,
26:54you see how people
26:56start to cry
26:58when they arrive.
27:00It's really strong.
27:02She was very excited.
27:04Not only because of the sacrifice,
27:06but because there are many people
27:08who go to thank
27:10for this miracle.
27:12That's what happened this weekend.
27:14Clearly, when people
27:16calculate,
27:18with the economic crisis,
27:20the number of faithful
27:22who are going to ask
27:24and need that hope,
27:26that faith in something,
27:28increases.
27:30People who saw her
27:32in other opportunities
27:34tell me that she is a mass.
27:36We never knew how she did
27:38about the Church,
27:40but she must have her circuits
27:42armed because it's not the first time.
27:44She looks like a mass.
27:46There were many people
27:48who sent me videos of Pampita
27:50on social media.
27:52She was next to a Virgin
27:54who was holding the Virgin.
27:56She didn't move from that place
27:58because she had gone
28:00to some church.
28:02You go to a group,
28:04you sign up,
28:06and there was a lot of Pampita poster.
28:08She just smiled,
28:10like Carolina.
28:12People were very loving
28:14and she answered with affection.
28:16That's what we said last week.
28:18It's the empathy she generates
28:20and what happens.
28:22That's why she's using her Instagram
28:24and doesn't stop billing and selling
28:26product after product.
28:28All the brands I work with,
28:30that we often coincide with,
28:32tell me,
28:34what you put on is sold out.
28:36She knows that.
28:38That's why she bills the way she does.
28:40On the other hand,
28:42Moritán posted a picture
28:44of Roberto Garcia Moritán
28:46on Saturday night,
28:48with beer in his hand,
28:50vodka and a Pomelo soda
28:52going to a place.
28:54Look at his hand.
28:56He's carrying something,
28:58drinks.
29:00He's not carrying an apple box.
29:02Why does he say beer?
29:04Whiskey?
29:06He's missing a straw and a nudist.
29:08At least I don't know.
29:10He's carrying something.
29:12When people send you pictures
29:14on Instagram,
29:16they tell me,
29:18he was doing something.
29:20Moritán was carrying something.
29:22I guess he's impotent.
29:24He's not doing anything wrong.
29:26Life goes on.
29:28He's drinking beer.
29:30He's not buying anything.
29:32Let's see.
29:34He's carrying another beer.
29:36He's carrying a Pomelo soda.
29:38For criticizing me.
29:40I said I didn't see it.
29:42He's carrying a beer.
29:44He's going to someone's house
29:46and he's carrying...
29:48He's making a mess.
29:50He's making a mess.
29:52I love that place.
29:54I love this place.
29:56It's spectacular.
29:58I wanted to stay and live there.
30:00But send, send, send.
30:01Let's hear one thing.
30:02So he left and he was poor.
30:04Now they are going to follow him, imagine.
30:05No, that's why.
30:06Under the bed.
30:07He has rights.
30:08Also something that happened on Friday was that we also found Nicole in the recording.
30:13Nicole, at the time, enemies were faced, but now they are sharing the eight steps and we went to look for her.
30:23How did you see Mompita after her separation?
30:25No, I don't know, I don't get involved in other people's business.
30:28No, but how did you see her, the semblance of her, how did you see her?
30:31I saw her well, professional, doing her job.
30:33We were there working, right?
30:35If you had to give her some advice right now, what would it be?
30:39No, I don't know, no, no, I don't get involved.
30:41I really don't get involved.
30:42I'm not talking about my private life, unless I'm going to get involved in someone else's, which I have no idea about.
30:45Anyone who chooses the family first, obviously, is what is right and is what I would do too.
30:51If Pompita invites you to have a coffee to chat, would you go?
30:55Yes, of course, of course.
30:57That is, the controversies of the past were put aside and now it is a harmonious relationship that you have?
31:05But yes, I have already told you thousands of times that it was more of a press issue than really something that happened.
31:10There is nothing.
31:12Does the moment that Carolina is going through move you?
31:16Let's see, yes, obviously.
31:18It's always ugly for someone to have a bad time, especially with a family issue and things that hurt.
31:22Yes, obviously it's not nice to see anyone at that moment.
31:25Would you forgive infidelity?
31:28Oh, what a great question.
31:31I don't know.
31:32The truth is, I don't know, it's very difficult.
31:34You have to be there at the moment.
31:36What is worse for you, having an unfaithful husband or having a corrupt husband?
31:39No, I don't know, I'm not going to get in there.
31:41No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
31:43I'm asking you, not someone else.
31:45But it doesn't matter, because then they all come together, of course.
31:48None, none at all.
31:49A few weeks ago it had been confirmed that, well, he had reached an agreement with Cubero.
31:55There always has to be a back and forth between parents, I mean, for the kids, it's clear.
32:00At one point he had agreed to go with the lawyers, no more.
32:03Well, but whatever it is, it's always there.
32:06Are you happy with how the legal agreement was between you?
32:10Yes, yes, yes.
32:11Do you think that he wanted you to give him some money because Indiana was living with them?
32:17No, the girls live at the same time with both, so it doesn't fit.
32:21Shared tenancy.
32:22It doesn't fit.
32:23Shared tenancy.
32:24Indiana lived with them, with Cubero and Mika.
32:27No, I don't know, I never talked about that, so I'm not going to do it either.
32:34How old is the baby?
32:36No, months.
32:37Two months?
32:38No, a little more.
32:39It's impeccable.
32:40It's impeccable.
32:41Oh, no.
32:42Yes.
32:43I was looking at it and I was like, it's even better than before.
32:46The maternity level went up, look at what it is.
32:48In fact, I'm going to put it everywhere.
32:50It's impeccable.
32:51No, it's too much.
32:52Too much.
32:53I'm not discovering anything new.
32:54He didn't want to meddle.
32:57You know what?
32:58It was respectful.
32:59Pampita asked for it in the recording.
33:00Because, I imagine, anything you say is…
33:02The truth is that at this point, the bank, Nicole.
33:04Because she was very careful, she didn't throw…
33:07I think she thought about every word she used.
33:10And this is appreciated too.
33:11Because if not, then we criticize.
33:12When you're a jar mouth, they tell you anything.
33:14Very good.
33:15No, in the recording, Pampita asked not to talk to many people.
33:18In the recordings, what they told me about Guido.
33:20Guido takes care of her a lot.
33:21He takes care of her a lot.
33:22She arrives, she arrives all produced.
33:24She arrived with the car, she got into the dressing room, she went down to record and that's how she left.
33:28She tries not to talk because, really, she's distressed.
33:31She's distressed.
33:32She puts her smile on the camera, but she's not having a good time.
33:35She sat down.
33:36No, besides, she doesn't want any kind of speculation.
33:38That's why.
33:39No comment, nothing.
33:40Nothing, nothing.
33:41Then she filters.
33:42And that they give her the weight.
33:43She tells me to follow the people who want to hug her.
33:45No, no, no.
33:46She arrived, dressing room.
33:47In fact, I don't even know if she went through the dressing room.
33:48Because they told me she arrived, she was already wearing makeup and nothing.
33:49She went down, sat down and started recording.
33:51Guido always does, when there is a scandal with some of the people who have his team,
33:55because they always have important figures, who usually have some kind of scandal,
33:58he always does the same.
34:00He never bothers anyone, he never makes them talk, he never asks them anything.
34:04Was it a special program, Marce?
34:05You don't know?
34:06Yes, they called them urgently for the change of schedule of the 13th.
34:10And yes, my love.
34:11Because they had asked her if she could do it.
34:13Guido is the knight of battle there.
34:14Yes, they had asked her if she could do it.
34:16She had already returned from Chile, she accepted instantly.
34:18That's why they called me.
34:20They waited for her to come from Chile.
34:23Here they tell me that regarding the pilgrimage, she went to the church in the sweet name of Jesus.
34:29Because she is very close to Father Fabrizio, who baptized Anita.
34:34Ah, it has to be.
34:35And that she was going with six more women, who did not seem friends,
34:39she did not speak so much, one filmed her and recorded her.
34:42No, but there were the newlyweds and Estefania.
34:44When is her trip to Thailand?
34:46At the end of the month.
34:47November, November 2.
34:49No, I have another date.
34:51No, Thailand no.
34:52Thailand is at the end of the month.
34:54It is at the end of the month, she leaves.
34:56One day she already has the ticket, there is a confidentiality control,
34:59where she asked for it and they gave it to her.
35:03And it's a lot of money, they told me.
35:05Because imagine, it's four days in Thailand.
35:07Ah, because from there, in the first days, she has to post it.
35:11A trip to England that goes with women.
35:13England, I think Europe is later.
35:15First is Thailand.
35:16And then, I don't know if she will stay and do the transfer so as not to go and come.